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kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #302


kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 302

Today's Topics:
  Re: The Golden Age
  Re: K.List Family Album
  Re: The LAKE !!!!
  RE: Taoists
  Emotional Rescue
  FEEDING KUNDALINI - YUM YUM - MORE PRANA PLEASE
  Re: Hello everyone - death of body and of ego
  hidden chakra
  Re: DIE YOU BASTARD!
  Re: FEEDING KUNDALINI - YUM YUM - MORE PRANA PLEASE
  Re: FEEDING KUNDALINI - YUM YUM - MORE PRANA PLEASE
  Re: hidden chakra
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 11:59:26 -0400 (EST)
From: Nancy Kar <nkarATnospamfreenet.npiec.on.ca>
To: LOUIS JACKSON G JACKSON <lj18ATnospamjuno.com>
cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: The Golden Age
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Hello!

Oh wow.... personal ascension, planetary ascension...
there's tonnes of stuff just on the web. Once I got into it, I
found that there was just too much to read. So I concentrated on
the stufff that I could more readily understand.

Most recently in book form that is, A course in Miracles..wow.
It's amazing... have you read it?

have you tried www.spirit ? it would be a great place to startand
from there you can get a lot of links to other sites.

What I have found is that everyone is talking about it but
everyone is using different terms so that, especially among
religions, they think that they have the secret key. Which
leads to confusion and some resentment.
But I believe that
we all have our own keys that already inside of us.. we just have
to realize that they are there and use them:)

Hope this helps :)
namaste
Nancy

On Fri, 4 Jul 1997, LOUIS JACKSON G JACKSON wrote:

> As a new student to Kundalini as well as many other spiritual
> paths, I have been most fascinated by the prediction that we are about to
> enter a new period of time when people will begin to see their lives as
> spiritual unfoldings and peace will dominate. The Indians call this the
> Golden Age and say that it will occur after many catastrophic changes to
> the earth and it's inhabitants. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to
> find any information about this anywhere.
> If anyone knows anything about it
> or could suggest any books, websites,etc., I would greatly appreciate
> it. Sincerely, Louis
> Jackson
>

     * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " *
    Looking through Lightworking eyes,
      Living through a Loveworking heart.
'Keep your face to the sunshine and you will not see the shadows' -H. Keller
     In lak'ech Nancy...WaterFall in spirit nkarATnospamfreenet.npiec.on.ca

    
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 12:13:51 -0400 (EST)
From: Nancy Kar <nkarATnospamfreenet.npiec.on.ca>
To: Sen Ashanka/AIS spa/IT <Sen_AshankaATnospamAIS01.ais.it>
cc: susan carlson <carlsonsATnospamrocketmail.com>,
 kundalini-l <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: K.List Family Album
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I too had this experience.. it came apparent with the message
on my answering machine. All I said was, 'I can't come to the
phone right now, will you please leave a message' My male friends
started commenting about 'the message' on my machine and how they
got chills when they listened to it. I thoguht they were just being
silly at the time but maybe this has something to do with it.
I thought it was funny, at the time:)

On 4 Jul 1997, Sen Ashanka/AIS spa/IT wrote:

> ---Susan wrote----
>
> >my voice has changed! it use to come from high in my throat but since
> >shaktipat and other interventions it has moved into my chest. (i have
> >gotten marriage proposals based on my voice).
> >
> >isn't life a wonder!? ;D
>
> You are right in the observations. The texts on tantra assert that after the
> heart chakra is opened, the person undergoes a change in personality
> and looks and becomes attractive and pleasing. Specially the voice.
> The voice also additionally gets toned up because of regular pranayam.
>
> After some time in regular practice, my voice reached down to the stomach...
>
> The same would happen to you as well and the tonal quality will improve,
> resulting in a very powerful effect on people around.
>
> Cheers and love to all
> Ashanka
>

     * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " *
    Looking through Lightworking eyes,
      Living through a Loveworking heart.
'Keep your face to the sunshine and you will not see the shadows' -H. Keller
     In lak'ech Nancy...WaterFall in spirit nkarATnospamfreenet.npiec.on.ca

    
Date: Sat, 05 Jul 1997 13:31:51 EDT
From: esberk1ATnospamjuno.com (Doreen M Esberk)
To: rhavyATnospamglobalnet.co.uk
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: The LAKE !!!!
Message-ID: <19800111.172124.14158.1.esberk1ATnospamjuno.com>

Hi Shadow

Thanks for this. I have been off line and will be for a few more weeks.
I am using my friends computer. This is really
helpful. I miss everyone. Doreen
On Mon, 23 Jun 1997 16:33:34 "Rhavy Davidrajuh" <rhavyATnospamglobalnet.co.uk>
(by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>) writes:
>
> Doreen wrote to Lobster,
>
>> Lobster: would you please give me info on the Lake.
>> and crossing the lake......I have
>> had my awareness drawn to it so many times... however
>> I really do not understand the symbol. Help!
>
>Lobster wrote to Doreen,
>
>>Shadow is the LAKE Expert and I have passed this on to him
>>Hope that is OK
>
>Now Shadow writing to Doreen,
>
>Hi Doreen,
>
>I have seen the lake been mentioned on various communications. But
>they are
>NOT all referring to the same thing. Rather than just describing the
>lake,
>I am listing its activities that concern us. Some of them do sound
>silly. I
>will try my best to explain.
>
>1) The LAKE is a pool of souls, knowledge, emotions, feelings etc.
>etc=85
>
>2) When we die, our souls (spirit, mind or whatever) return to the
>Lake.
>Where it mixes with others and from that mix, new lives will be born.
>(What
>this means is- after you die, you are very unlikely to reincarnate as
>one
>baby. But, you may find your presence in several babies. The good news
>is
>you will not be punished for your sins etc. There won't be any one you
>to
>receive the punishment.)
>
>3) What goes on when we are alive? We are actively connected to the
>SURFACE
>of the Lake via CHORDS. Which suggests that we are not individuals,
>but
>part of a huge system. Imagine the palm of your hand as the Lake and
>the
>fingers as people with their unique minds and having love, hate
>relationships between them. When one hurts another he/she is hurting
>the
>whole system, thus partially hurting himself.
>
>4) If you could develop a technique to dive deeper and deeper from the
>Surface, you will start loosing your SELF and finally you can become
>the
>Lake itself (i.e. the GOD). For now we can regard ourselves as part of
>the
>lake (or children of the God).
>
>If, I haven't managed to confuse you so far, then here are some
>answers to
>very frequently asked questions.
>
>QUESTION: Where is this Lake anyway?
>ANSWER: The Lake is anywhere, everywhere and nowhere. In one dimension
>the
>lake is around us, but it can be just a point of origin in another
>dimension.
>
>QUESTION: How can I avoid going back into lake?
> ANSWER: To avoid death, you've got to know when you are going to die.
>If
>you know the exact time, then you can take extreme precautions to
>avoid it.
>If you manage that then you can continue to live on until your next
>time
>slot arrives. Some people do manage to die before their allocated time
>slot
>(suicide etc.) or afterwards. This could leave their souls stranded
>until
>the next time slot (Ghosts etc.).
>
>Hope this explain the basic facts about the LAKE. Now you can call
>yourself
>a Kundalite Laker.
>
>Regards,
>Shadow.
>
>
>
>
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 12:14:57 -0700
From: johnATnospamanodyne.org (John Pateros)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: RE: Taoists
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Lobster wrote:
>... Taoists are a group of alcoholic mystics who
>never do anything.
>In "pop" New Age Taoism we get phrases such as:
>go with the flow
>don't fight it
>Have a Nice Day

David wrote:
>Taoism is an ancient system with various branches. Pop Taoism is something
>of a new phenomenon I don't understand...for that matter I don't understand
>the older one either...
>But give me a break...alchoholic mystics?

One of the best sources I've found for opening, understanding and managing
K is "Taoist Secrets of Love, Cultivating Male Sexual Energy" and it's
sequel, "Cultivating Female Sexual Energy" by Mantak Chia and his wife,
Maneewan Chia. From what I've experienced of them, Taoist energy practices
seem specifically designed to promote the emergence of K in an attitudinal
and emotional environment that nurtures the ongoing, healthy unfolding and
continuation of the K experience. Also, as far as I can tell, the Taoists
don't make distinctions between "sexual energy", "life-force energy", "Chi"
and "Kundalini". I'm curious about what others know of the similarities
and differences between/among these terms and the realities they describe.

Best,

John
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 14:41:55 -0500 (CDT)
From: Nothing Is <holi0007ATnospamitlabs.umn.edu>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Emotional Rescue
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I found this study on emotional control on the following page, and am
beginning to practice the techniques with good results already. The web
rules.

http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/3150/content1.htm
which I think links to
gopher://gopher.etext.org/00/Psychology/Shalif/emotions

here's the first page, its like 322 total but I dont want to make your
mailbox explode, check it out yourself

      FOCUSING ON THE EMOTIONS* OF DAILY LIFE
  A GUIDE FOR THEIR MAINTENANCE
Or
      How to change without trying too hard
by
Ilan Shalif (Ph.D.)

Originally written in Hebrew by the author and assistance of associates
   Copyright and responsibility - I. Shalif

Submitted by I. Shalif
 E-Mail gshalifATnospamnetvision.net.il
 Home Page <http://www.netvision.net.il/php/gshalif>
Snail-mail: Ilan Shalif P.O.B. 13331 Tel-Aviv 61132 ISRAEL

  The right to copy sections of this booklet or even all of it is granted
     to all, on condition that it is done without textual or spelling
  errors and with no commercial intent or monetary profit.
     In copying or quoting, the source may be mentioned

<cut>

  The General Sensate Focusing Technique (To be called sometimes in the
   following chapters by the short form of "Sensate Focusing" or simply
   "Focusing") is first and foremost an easy and systematic way to
   influence one's emotional climate and to deal with each sensation
   which comes to one's attention. By investing a small part of your
   mental resources in focusing on the plethora of sensations occurring
   in daily life, with the added consideration of topics worth focusing
   on - you will be able to achieve nearly everything.

   Using this technique, you will be able to influence the course of your
   whole life, and each detail in it as well. With this technique you can
   relieve tensions, pains and any other unpleasant sensations and
   feelings; put end to psychosomatic disturbances; and even resolve
   indecisiveness. The technique can also be used at will to change
   single habits or even the personality.

bye,
nothing is
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 21:11:33 +0100
From: Tom Aston <yogi.tomATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: FEEDING KUNDALINI - YUM YUM - MORE PRANA PLEASE
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HOW TO FEED AWAKENED KUNDALINI IN HER PUREST FORM?

An instant guide by Yogi Tom, just in case you were trying to ignore
your true dietary needs.

GO FOR A HIGH PRANA DIET

Unless you are desperately trying to dull kundalini symptoms through a
heavy diet of meat and two veg, in the long run kundalini needs feeding
with prana, chi, ki - the life force itself which comes from fresh
wholefoods produced naturally without chemicals or processing.

A BORN AGAIN NERVOUS SYSTEM AND SUBTLE BODY NEEDS HIGH QUALITY PRANA

Kundalini awakening is like becoming a spiritual baby, the newly born
psychophysical organism feeds on the Mothers energy through the navel
chakra which acts like a cosmic umbilical cord, the Universal Chi that
flows into the meridians through the fingers and toes, and through the
food and drink you consume.

THINK OF THE LIFE AHEAD

For the baby to grow properly and fulfill its highest potential, only
the purest diet will do

A USEFUL GUIDING PRINCIPLE

"Eat the sun" by eating from the top of the food chain in its purest
most unprocessed and freshest form.

Through photosynthesis plants and vegetables capture the suns energies
in their purest form

FEED THE BRAIN AND NERVOUS SYSTEM

Feed the brain and nervous system for kundalini purifies them and needs
all the help she can get..

PROVIDE HIGH QUALITY FUEL FOR THE ENDOCRINE SYSTEM

She also activates and refines the endocrine system so make sure your
diet is rich in minerals and vitamins

FEED THE SUBTLE BODY

Kundalini purifies the subtle body so she needs food packed with high
quality energy

Its not worth cutting corners with diet as it your psychic and
spiritual being that will suffer

DETOXIFY THE MIND AND BODY NATURALLY THROUGH ELIMINATION

A diet high in fibre and roughage will help kundalini purify your system
through elimination

KEEP LISTENING TO KUNDALINIS NEEDS

One needs to cooperate with kundalini in purifying the psychophysical
organism through the right diet to avoid damaging ones newly sensitised
physical and subtle bodies

HELP THE HEALING OF THE PSYCHOPHYSICAL ORGANISM

A diet rich in prana, as well as conventional nutritional ingredients
such as vitamins, amino acids and minerals, is also essential for
healing at every level.

TRY SPROUTING BEANS

The ultimate dietary source of prana is probably sprouting beans,
grains, seeds, pulses - mung beans, lentils, aduki beans etc etc..

TRY RAW VEGETABLES

fresh raw vegetables - kundalini likes these once your digestive system
has adjusted from relying on cooked food

TRY FRESH FRUIT

sunshine, natural sugars
citrus - acidic but sunshine orange, lemon, pineapple, mango

TRY A SUPERFOOD: BLUE GREEN ALGAE

One should also consider superfoods such as blue-green algae which is a
highly concentrated form of prana.

MUNCH BUDDHA SEEDS

sesame seeds are goodamongst many others

CRUNCH YOUR NUTS

peanuts..cashewsalmondsyum yum

USEFUL EUROPEAN HERBS

mint and peppermint for calm..many others too

USEFUL AYURVEDIC HERBS

Ayurvedic herbs such as kolu gota (for brain), amalaki (for vitamin C),
golden seal, lotus seed

USEFUL CHINESE HERBS

Oriental herbs such as ginseng , also grown in USA

LOOK INTO NATIVE AMERICAN HERBS AND OTHER INDIGENOUS PEOPLES HERBS

Never tried any of these - anyone know what kundalini likes ?

CUT OUT DEAD FOOD

Dead food in the form of meat does not provide the source of prana that
vegetables and wholegrains do.
Although, it is known often to help dampen down a rampant kundalini in
its early stages of awakening

BEWARE OF TOXIC MEDICATION

The body and brain can also be sensitive to conventional medication of
any kind.

Listen to your nervous system and subtle body, avoiding inessential
medicines to which they react badly

This may mean cutting medications that allopathic medicine tells us are
harmless

BUT BE SENSIBLE - STAY ALIVE

Do not do anything hasty or stupid like refusing essential medicines
though

REMEMBER - THE KUNDALINI DIET IS REAL FOOD FOR SOUL , WESTERN DIET IS
CRAP

It is worth remembering that it is not so much kundalinis needs that
are strangely extreme, as may appear to an observer of someone following
a high-prana diet, but rather the dead nature of much of the modern
diet.

THIS IS FOOD FOR THE SOUL

As well as being natural and ecologically sound, a high prana diet fuels
positive mental states and spiritual purification

HOW TO MEASURE PRANA ?

Western science is useful in gauging basic nutritional qualities of
foods, but fails to take account of the pranic qualities of foods.

Organically produced food will inevitably have more prana and better
nutrititional qualities than food produced with agro-chemicals.

This applies to organic meat as much as vegetables and fruit.

As the palate is sensitised through purification by kundalini, one will
become more sensitive to the pranic qualities of various foods simply by
how they feel and taste in the mouth and stomach
 .MUNCHING YOUR FOOD

Munch food to absorb the full release of energy from it and ease
digestion by fully mixing it up with saliva.

ABSORBING YOUR FOOD

Relax after eating, lie down and let the body deal with digestion

TRYING SYSTEMS OF DIET

If you want to be more methodical why not synthesise those aspects of a
range of diets that suit your constitution and kundalinis changing
needs eg borrow from:
Macrobiotics
Rainbow Diet
Fruitarian
Vegan
Vegetarian

KUNDALINI LIKES A BALANCED DIET

Avoid extremes of feasting and fasting as kundalini is trying to refine
your system, just follow her lead

KUNDALINIS NEEDS CAN CHANGE.

Sometimes she will prefer raw food, sometimes cooked food

Sometimes she will need meat to cool things down , sometimes vegetables
to clean things up .

Sometimes she will need a little food every two or three hours

Sometimes she may prefer three regular meals a day.

Sometimes she will need small, carefully measured helpings

Sometimes she will eat everything on the table

GO FOR PURE DRINKS AND ENERGY SHAKES

mineral water, fresh juices, vegetable juice, herb teas can all meet
kundalinis needs

YUM YUM

BON APPETIT

GET FEEDING THAT NEW CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM..

Yogi Tom

Burp !

All additions and suggestions welcomed - maybe one day, yes - The
Kundalini Cookbook

--
Tom Aston
Date: Sat, 05 Jul 1997 13:28:07
From: OsmundvozATnospamaol.com (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Hello everyone - death of body and of ego
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That Die you bastard lay down and die approach really works.
Date: Sat, 05 Jul 1997 13:30:36
From: Ramiro Barrantes <rabarATnospamcariari.ucr.ac.cr> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: hidden chakra
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Hi, I'm new to this list and this is my first post. Anyway I have some
experience with yoga and kundalini.
  In some literature (by the teosophist Leadbeeter and by Anundale) there
is a mention about a chakra that's related with the sexual but that it's
not talked about in books because of it's danger.
  In any case, do any of you know something or have information
(bibliographical) or can tell me any information about that chakra? If a
person has reasons to believe that he has it very activated what can you
recommend doing?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Ramiro B. R.
San Jose, Costa Rica
Date: Sat, 05 Jul 1997 16:43:46 -0400
From: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net>
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: DIE YOU BASTARD!
Message-ID: <33BEB202.6DFATnospammail.snet.net>

Tom Aston wrote:

> one teaching that works for me is
>
> DIE YOU BASTARD ! LAY DOWN AND DIE !
>

You psychic Tom?

How'd you know the quote on my bumper sticker?

David,
Learning to fly and die,
All in one motion.
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 14:12:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: susan carlson <carlsonsATnospamrocketmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: FEEDING KUNDALINI - YUM YUM - MORE PRANA PLEASE
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---Tom Aston <yogi.tomATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> HOW TO FEED AWAKENED KUNDALINI IN HER PUREST FORM?

After receiving shaktipat I was instructed to follow a high prana
diet...
good for you...more spiritual...no animals are killed...etc.

I did give it my best effort. I gained over 50 pounds. I was
edematous, gassy, cranky, constantly hungry, dreams about prime rib
and saw no benefit in my meditations. I did raw foods, food combining,
vegan and the like. During my vegan period I was so cold I would sit
on the Gulf Coast beach in Florida in the middle of the summer
shivering in the sunlight. "oh, you are just detoxifying," "Healing
crisis," said another. Even adding heating herbs did not help.

Finally, I said "F**k it!" and gave in to my prime rib dreams after
about six years. Now I eat high protein (animal), moderate fat, and
low
carbohydrate. Talk about politically incorrect in this time!

I no longer eat sugar, bread/grains/most legumes, starchy veggies,
pasta, milk (too much sugar). Now its meat, cheese, butter and non
starchy veggies, plus occasional fruit. I don't trim the fat off my
food either anymore. Won't buy a reduced fat or no fat item.

No more ravenous cravings, no more mood swings, no bloating, edema,
high blood pressure, erratic menstrual cycles. I am calmer, of more
moderate temperament ( hunger makes me bitchy...so does denial), have
powerful meditations, I have lost 50 pounds and I am still loosing. I
also have no dreams about prime rib and no dreams about bread and
pasta.

Some may say, food allergies. Yeah, probably yeast most likely. Dont
really care now.

My advice would be whatever works use it. My diet change flouts the
dominant paradigm regarding health, nutrition, and spiritual lifestyle.
Have I ever gotten flack about it... so politically incorrect. Been a
real character builder for me.

What do Native Americans call a vegetarian?........a lousy hunter.

A hard core carnivore,

Susan

Mother always said the only thing I preferred when I was little was
meat.

_____
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Date: Sat, 05 Jul 1997 16:07:07
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: susan carlson <carlsonsATnospamrocketmail.com>, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: FEEDING KUNDALINI - YUM YUM - MORE PRANA PLEASE
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  YAAAAAYYY!! (Mystress Jumping up and down at her keyboard..)
  You have said what I would have, but probably more politely..
Of course there are always exceptions. I seem to be an exception, for
sure... I don't expect in a group this size I am the only exception, and
now I know I am right!
   The little voice said "Prana is everywhere.. don't put too many limits
on where you expect to find it" An interesting idea.. I have come to the
realization some time ago that the reason for my tiny appetite and unusual
dietary needs is that to a certain extent I am living on prana directly.
Living on K. itself.
  
  Not claiming to be a breatharian, but I eat only one meal a day, plus
plenty of tea and a late night snack food, usually ice cream or something
crunchy to nibble as I write. My diet has shaped itself by my allergies,
which I interpret as my body telling me what it doesn't want.
   Yay! Carnivore Power! We have the same diet, except I consume cream, ice
cream, and dark demerra sugar in some quantity. No rice, beans, citrus,
wheat, rye, no high fibre, no fake fats, margarines, or overheated oils,
Flax seed oil in quantity, and give me my organic prime rib steak barbecue,
or watch the ducks in the park start to go missing. Asparagus, corn,
potato or ceasar salad on the side.. but I still do find food combining
useful. Many vegetable and friut allergies, I stick to seasonal and local,
to get the right prana for the location where I live.. cranberry juice not
orange juice, no bananas, no pesticide or messed up DNA. No premixed stuff
containing chemicals I don't recognize, no nitrites or MSG.
  Nothing ever really dies, but some things get killed and eaten over and
over again.. The bumper sticker says: "I didn't claw my way to the top of
the food chain to become a vegetarian." All of the most intelligent animals
are carnivores, with the possible exception of elephants, and a few
others... Elephants will kill carnivores, tho.
  Vegetarian does not mean non-violent. Even hamsters fight.
  Animals seldom suffer the pains of dying of old age, unless they are
human pets. Nature provides quick exits for the old and weak.
  Human digestive systems cannot digest cellulose fibre, which is what
plants are made of.. we don't have a gizzard with grinding rocks, or a four
chambered stomach. Unless the cell walls of cellulose are broken down by
juicing, chewing, or cooking, thier nutrition is inaccessable to us. I have
seen many pallid sickly looking flatuent vegetarians who apparently are
unaware of this.
  A cat eats grass when it feels sick, because the grass will purge.
  Find a bone or antler in the woods, likely it will show signs of having
been gnawed by rabbits who are after a calcium and mineral supplement.
  They used to think that monkeys were very picky eaters, taking the best
bites of fruit and tossing the rest, as a human would. A recent study
conducted by following monkey tribes around in the rain forest and
examining what they are throwing away proves the opposite. The monnkeys are
after the protein supplement provided by the bugs in the fruit.. they pick
the wormy fruit, bite out the worms and eat them and toss the rest.
 Blessings, Angelique.

Mystress Angelique Serpent,
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masochists do unto others as they wish to be done unto, they
become sadists," the Swami said. "Consequently, the Golden Rule
has been recalled by the Maker until this design flaw can be fixed."
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Date: Sat, 05 Jul 1997 16:08:50
From: Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: hidden chakra
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Hi Ramiro:
About this hidden chakra...the sex chakra...
> In any case, do any of you know something or have information
> (bibliographical) or can tell me any information about that chakra? If a
> person has reasons to believe that he has it very activated what can you
> recommend doing?
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> Ramiro B. R.
> San Jose, Costa Rica
>
I have had it awakened and this is what I have learned. It is about
finding that inside the male there is the female point usually found in
the body of a female..and inside the female there is a point that usually
comes from the point of the penis... This creates the Hermaphrodite.. or
the Androgyn or Shiva (who is both sexes) Usually this comes into
experience when the K. aspirant reaches the 5th main chakra (there are
actually a lot more chakras than are put into books) in the throat. Here
is where the male/female merge into one.. and above this point there is no
more separation...some call it Christ Consciousness. My experience was
that until the K. reached the throat I was sexually aroused whenever I
would meditate and this is verified by Muktananda "The Play of
Consciousness" and his Autobiographical account of actually tearing his
underwear with his erect penis...so great was his experience of this.
It can be very distressing to a yogi who practices brahamacharya or
celibacy to have this happen... however it is part of the process and as
Muktananda found eventually the energy stops going through the downward
path... in biological sex.. and goes the upward path within to the inner
female location( for the male) and the inner male location for the female.
Then you reach a state of orgasm for as long as you want to hve it. It is
a bit incapacitating... your eyes roll up in your head and you just want
to lie around and groan in bliss... as I recall my longest time was 48
hours...! After a while you go past that too.. but there is this sense of
being like a turtle.. you hve your home and your beloved with you all the
time and you are never alone anywhere.. This is how I experienced it.
In the ancient texts this is called Urddhvareta...where the semen and the
sexual juices are sucked up inside and you can actually feel the light of
the sexual fluid (which is pure light) coming up through the body in great
ecstasy. This creates some kind of inner flow which connects through the
throat and up to the pineal in a sort of figure eight.
As you can see this is not technical according to the text book account,
but it might help you with this issue.... you are not alone in being
concerned about it. It can be a big turn off for anyone with issues about
sexuality... just one more blockage.
Good luck:
Ruth

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accomplishes everything. Do not worry; abide in the Heart and surrender
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