1997/07/02 21:02
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #298
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 298
Today's Topics:
Re: see love and you will see god as well
Re: Dreams...
AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
Re:[Forceful] Exercises Dangerous and new member's personal
experience
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Re: (Forceful) Exercises Dangerous
Re: (Forceful) Exercises Dangerous
computers crashing
awake dreaming
Re: (Forceful) Exercises Dangerous
Re: Root Chakra
Re: (Forceful) Exercises Dangerous
friendship
Re: Love + compassion
Re: friendship
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 1997 20:31:54 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: susan carlson <carlsonsATnospamrocketmail.com>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: see love and you will see god as well
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> From everything Kubler-Ross says, it sounds as if she isn´t exactly
> fat with love these days. That may be because-like many depressed,
> angry, disappointed and hurting people-she´s isolated herself from
> love.
>
> But my guess is, thanks to her very public outburst, and awful lot of
> people who are grateful for Kubler-Ross´ decade of work will tell her
> so. If she lets them, maybe they can help her have the last laugh. I
> Am Who Am will join in.
>
> . . .Stephanie Salter, San Francisco Examiner
Interesting article, it only proves that Elizabeth Ross is being tested
and tried in the fire. The fact that the living of it is different then
the telling or thinking of it is, also says she needs the experience to
really learn to flow with Divine Will.
I have just gone through several people working through the letting go
stage and passing to the other side, each does it according to their
position and understanding of God and the surrender to Divine Will.
A dear friend of mine just last week while staying with me had a massive
stroke to the stem of the brain. I asked her several times if I could
take her to the emergency room and she declined. She had a premonition
about it earlier and choose not to do the traditional thing, her passing
was mostly spent with me for the first three days.( I was her safety
net) When she saw her family they did put her in the hospital where
there wasn't anything really left to do. Yet, they still hooked her up
to life support but she was gone. In Carol's case she was neither afraid
or trying to hold on, she knew she was going and was ready to ride the
wave out. This is faith and surrender. Since she knew it was coming down
there wasn't the fight to stay, rather it was accept and flow. All
people going over still need light and love, this is where our part of
the experience is important. Elizabeth Ross needs love and
understanding, the anger and confusion will pass as the acceptance of
Divine Will is realized. Gloria
>
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Date: Tue, 01 Jul 1997 20:07:11 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: Sen Ashanka/AIS spa/IT <Sen_AshankaATnospamAIS01.ais.it>
CC: kundalini-l <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Dreams...
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Sen Ashanka/AIS spa/IT wrote:
>
>
> In one dream I was back at home in Bombay with my family and
> just before sitting down for dinner we were arranging the table.
> Then suddenly I held a spoon in my hand, and at my willing it
> just popped out of my hand ! I just willed that the spoon fly off
> and off it went. I was surprised at this feat and tried it several
> times with different spoons and glasses and everytime it worked.
>
> The second dream was that I was swimming in a pool and began
> to do back stroke and my entire body went under the water
> including my nose. At that time all breathing stopped and I
> went into seeing the blue-purple clouds one sees in deep
> meditation.
>
>
>
> Ashanka
Ashanka,
The first dream shows your awareness is changing and you are noticing
that in the dream state what you think you create immediately the same
thing holds true in your body however it isn't nearly as clear or as
immediate in the dream state. These dreams are consciousness dreams and
assist tremendously in the awakening process. If you keep a dream
journal and use it to focus your soul/spirit energies, much will come
through in the process. I have worked bringing this consciousness
through since 1968, you will be surprised at how learning to decode your
dream formula will change your life because it directly relates to your
here and now.
The second dream is telling you that the spirit world we live in is a
vast ocean of prana, life force, you will often compare this to the
human concept of swimming in a vast ocean, or waves of etheric energy.
Again you are becoming aware of the soul/spirit reality which you are
coding into a language you can bring back to your consious mind. When
you are in mediation you are again bringing your self into union with
the unified field. Isn't it great how we teach ourselves to awake to the
spirit world. Gloria
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 19:20:32 -1000 (HST)
From: Raja Bose <sun1212ATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
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Hi all, real glad this group exists.
My body, my back aches alot. Particulary in the 1st chakra area,
the middle back, and the shoulders. Sometimes this energy clears and
I feel light all over, this feels great. But the muscle pain comes
back....
Spirit voice guiding me... telling me, suggesting to me what I write
and should do... It suggested that I listen to music, so I got a
walkman...this is great because its real non invasive, private music...
which I can take anywhere... I feel much better because of it...
Guide also suggests I go dancing... This was also suggested to me
before by human guides.... So I went to a club, to dance....
It was great just allowing my body to feel the music, the energy... I
did a sorta tai-chi slow dance, felt this energy move down my arms
and elbows...actually all over my body.... It was very sensual, and
I got wierd and surprised looks from other dancers... a cop even came
up to me and angrily said to leave the drugs at home.... I wasn't on
any drugs...thinking of going to a rave next time, a trance dance...
guess all dance is sorta trance, but raves are particulary trance
like, most all my experiences of raves were good....
Thanks for reading....
Raja
Date: Wed, 02 Jul 1997 00:13:12
From: David Tompkins <gurudaveATnospamsoback.kornet.nm.kr> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re:[Forceful] Exercises Dangerous and new member's personal
experience
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My name is David Tompkins. I am new to the list, having watched it for the
past few weeks or so. Having read some of the experiences of others I have
been quite curious about why kundalini rises in some so harshly and in
others so peacefuly.
Since I am new to the list I think I should first tell about my own
experience some. Looking back I believe kundalini became slightly active
in my last year of university when I was under a great deal of stress. I
was reading a lot of intense modern novels, and trying to write a huge
final thesis. I was studying postmodernism and more specifically the
limitations of knowledge: our desire for the absolute but for the time
being having to accept only fragments of it.
I found over the course of about 5 months I gradually became unable to hold
a conversation with other people. The problem was that I couldn't
understand them when they were talking to me, or rather I understood too
many dimensions of them to be able to answer only their words. I didn't
know whether I should respond to their words, the intention of what they
were trying to say, what they deep down wanted to say but were too polite
to, or whether I should be assertive and point out what I believed to be
errors in their logic or perception, or understanding of their particular
place and time in the flow of life. It was a baffling time.
After university I lived in a hermitage for two years--sort of settling.
During this time a number of important things happened. It was there I
first learned about kundalini and read everything I could find. Also I
spoke to MANY people about all kinds of things. Just life. I met a monk
who could see high into the astral field and in one moment of stillness
after peeling potatoes for about 3 hours gave me my first glimpse into the
astral field. I had already been seeing the etheric a little bit. Most
importantly, one morning in that instant between being asleep and waking up
I was aware of myself in a most beautiful way, and I was not within this
physical frame. There was a center about three fingers below my navel, in
my belly, but also above my body, and like a flow into and out of the
center all around my being. It was living energy like some crimson wine of
the gods. And as soon as I became aware of it I was again in my physical
frame. My conscious awareness of it lasted only an instant. To me though
it was an eternal moment.
After leaving the hermitage I came to South Korea to teach English, where I
have been for the last two years. Soon after I came here I happened upon a
form of meditation that for me fits quite perfectly. It is called Kouk
Sun Do. Everyday I practise this for about an hour and a half. It is a
gentle physical discipline of stretching, meditation, control of the
breath, and postures. I am not familiar enough with other practises to be
able to compare it for you. It usually takes about 5 years of daily
practise to be prepared enough to continue individually.
The kundalini symptoms I have read about also happen in this practise, and
have happened to me, involuntary jerks and noises, the sound of birds, the
smell of sewage, incense, and fish, heat and drumming in the ha tantien
(the place below the navel). Over the past two years my low blood pressure
has normalized, and a recurring ear problem doesn't bother me anymore.
I have been told that as this energy (built up in the tantien) begins to
move through the body, all old illnesses seem to reappear briefly. Again
I'm told this is because in some fashion they remain in the organs, and
this new energy or however it should be called effects a permanent cure.
To return to the discussion of forceful exercises and the harshness some
experience in kundalini awakening, I wonder if toxicity in the body and/or
a general lack of health restrict the free flow of energy, thereby coming
to our awareness as pain. I wonder if some psychoses associated with
kundalini isn't like water flowing to the lowest level--energy flowing
through the strongest paths, blocked at the weaker paths.
I know this is rather simplistic, I'm sure only a facet of an unbalanced
awakening, but perhaps nevertheless important.
Anyway, it's nice to meet you all.
David.
Date: 2 Jul 97 9:36:58
From: Sen Ashanka/AIS spa/IT <Sen_AshankaATnospamAIS01.ais.it>
To: Raja Bose <sun1212ATnospamhotmail.com>
Cc: kundalini-l <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Risposta: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
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---Raja wrote----
>My body, my back aches alot. Particulary in the 1st chakra area,
>the middle back, and the shoulders. Sometimes this energy clears and
>I feel light all over, this feels great. But the muscle pain comes
>back....
>Guide also suggests I go dancing...
Raja,
Dancing does certainly stimulate the K-rising. If you have seen the pictures of
Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu, a bhakti avatar, you will see Him in a dancing pose
with hands raised in the air. The whole body dances to devotional music in a
manner that smoothly waves the spine to and fro. When this is done in the right
manner the K-rising takes place without aches and fears. This has been the
object of the daily chanting and dancing of the persons in Iskcon. (Int. Soc.
for
Krishna Consciousness).
If you try and attend any such session you might be able to see the movement
better.
It is a gentle swaying of the torso and the spine keeps moving in a smooth
serpentine
manner. This gives rise to the K ....
In fact all of the tribal medicine-man dance and trance dance are all dances to
stimulate the K-rising and then the dancer is cought up in an overwhelming surge
of energy.
Cheers and love to all
Ashanka
Date: Wed, 02 Jul 1997 08:28:58 -0700
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: (Forceful) Exercises Dangerous
Message-ID: <33BA73BA.6489ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
> >Kurt Keutzer wrote:
> >
> >> So I'm beginning to wonder if the sensitivity and prediposition of the
> >> individual is not much more significant than the practice employed. In
> >> other words, could it be the case that there are individuals with a
> >> predisposition to an unbalanced awakening but there are no inherenly
> >> dangerous practices.
> >>
> >> Any comments?
> >> Kurt
> >
> >That's my observation also. Kundalini chooses, we accept.
> >Morgana
All sham techniques are innapropriate, ineffectual and like any weak
medicine of little consequence. Some techniques when used at the wrong
time, on the wrong person (like a strong medicine) may cause great harm.
There are techniques that will drive people crazy, make them ill or kill
them if used at the wrong time. Some such techniques can be found in
books. The reason people can not practice according to their own
preference is because they are unable to diagnose their own condition
because part of their condition is innapropriate diagnosis.
Find a group. Find a teacher. Trust in God. Increase in Love. You have
nothing to fear.
Most Kind Regards
Lobster
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 06:46:48 -0500 (CDT)
From: stampmanATnospamix.netcom.com
To: keutzerATnospamsynopsys.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: (Forceful) Exercises Dangerous
Message-Id: <19977244846441ATnospam>
On 07/01/97 11:46:03 Kurt wrote:
>... the opinion ... any volitional exercise
>aimed at awakening kundalini was potentially dangerous
>... unbalanced awakenings of kundalini ... no correllation between the
>practice and the result ... I ... wonder if the sensitivity and
>prediposition of the individual is not much more significant than the
>practice employed. ... there are no inherenly dangerous practices?
>Kurt
>
This has been my opinion for some time now (no study, education,
erudition from outside sources on the subject ...). Just the view
from the inside (one year + of a spontaneous awakening).
Others have agreed with this observation which is borne out by
the exact observations you have made; to which I add a most important
one and that is the fact that under the tutelage of 'masters' very
RUDE awakenings ALSO happen ... Ram Dass writes of a case at
one of his ashrams that got so bad he was physically attacked.
Of course, the stock answer is that the presence of the 'master'
is needed in just such cases to 'guide' the unfortunate through the
maze of misery. Again, my OPINION is that ANYone who is in ANY distress
is likely to seek and benefit from 'assistance'; especially if it is
from an 'acceptable' source that fits well with their belief system...
regardless if it is Rabbi, Priest, counsellor, Yogi, or psychiatrist. But,
and here is the rub ... no matter how well-intentioned, how deeply
'trained' the 'assistor' the vulnerability of the 'assistee' is the
REAL danger; to both the counsellor and the counselled.
More OPINION; kundalini awakenings happen to all walks of people,
in all ages, in all cultures, with and without 'practices', with and
without 'sages'. They are also commonly mimicked by the gullible, the
accepting, the hopeful, and the truly good seeking to be 'better'. My
OPINION is that there is no more a way to force a genuine kundalini
awakening than there is to force puberty on a person.
Just an observation of mine is that a child is born into this
world with their senses open like a bottomless pit; accepting sight,
touch, sound, and the world beyond sense of their mother's love and
then pain, desire, and the ability to control the external starts to
set up carefully constructed walls and blocks and dams within. This
is the natural course of 'maturing'.
Then (who knows why, despite the volumes written) a kundalini
awakening occurs and all of these block get washed over and one steps
back to the time when they were laying helplessly, uncaring, as the
sensory input of the universe gushes into their consciousness. The
blocks are never destroyed, but their presence are made known and
the options start to become available to make ones higher consciousness
a gatekeeper over them. The witness behind the witness.
Love and LAUGHING LIGHT,
Dan-RF
(I still don't believe the association between k-awakening and electrical
problems (coincidence probably). However, my computer has crashed here
at home three times now in the past several weeks, eating my email,
address book, saved mail, etc. My computer at work now crashes several
times a day (even went to another machine and the same thing started
happening at that one!!!!!). It must be a bad time of year for computers
.... sunspots probably =-).
Date: Wed, 02 Jul 1997 06:33:06
From: ori^ <oriATnospameskimo.com>
To: stampmanATnospamix.netcom.com, Kundalini-l <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: computers crashing
Message-Id: <3.0.2.16.19970702063306.394f7e0aATnospammail.eskimo.com>
Dan-RF wrote:
>(I still don't believe the association between k-awakening and electrical
>problems (coincidence probably). However, my computer has crashed here
>at home three times now in the past several weeks, eating my email,
>address book, saved mail, etc. My computer at work now crashes several
>times a day (even went to another machine and the same thing started
>happening at that one!!!!!). It must be a bad time of year for computers
>.... sunspots probably =-).
Hi Dan,
You might possibly want to try some sort of crystal placed on or
near your computer to assist in grounding your energy and protecting
the computer :) I've found too that my computer can't handle the
energy spikes which seem to emanate from me when my energy flow is
very high (and sometimes erratic). One stone which I use is Black
tourmaline. I'm sure there are others.
Some say crystals don't like computers... however I have found that
when used as an energy ground between me and the computer... or more
specifically my modem, it really has seemed to help. Or maybe I have
learned to ground better. Anyway, might be worth a try.
In light,
ori^
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Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 09:07:15 -0500 (CDT)
From: hbarrettATnospamix.netcom.com (Holly N. Barrett, Ph.D.)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: awake dreaming
Message-Id: <199707021407.JAA18142ATnospamdfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com>
As I seem to become increasingly aware of being here ("Holly") and not
being here (all is Spirit) simultaneously, I notice that when I close
my eyes I am dreaming instantaneously, but not sleeping. Most
interesting development. Anybody know what is happening? Holly
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 09:34:37 -0500 (CDT)
From: hbarrettATnospamix.netcom.com (Holly N. Barrett, Ph.D.)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: (Forceful) Exercises Dangerous
Message-Id: <199707021434.JAA16480ATnospamdfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com>
Dan's remark about trying to force Kundalini being like trying to force
Puberty made me laugh out loud. This process DOES feel like
deconstruction. Anybody remember the great Fitzgerald short story
called "The Strange Case of Benjamin Button"? It's about a man who
gets younger and younger -- read lighter and lighter, or more and more
transparent -- till he dies as a baby. Holly
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 17:41:57 +0100
From: Tom Aston <yogi.tomATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, LOUIS JACKSON G JACKSON <lj18ATnospamjuno.com>
Subject: Re: Root Chakra
Message-ID: <QMQBJIAVTouzEwmoATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
In message <19970701.063131.7807.0.lj18ATnospamjuno.com>, LOUIS JACKSON G
JACKSON <lj18ATnospamjuno.com> writes
> I read in a book recently that suggested stimulation of the root
>chakra for personal magnetism and charisma. Has anyone ever heard of this
>before?
>
yes, and experienced it, be very careful if this sidddha emerges, you
can feel like a little Hitler with your ability to sway people any way
you want and you can also tap into sexual magnetism, so much so, people
don't even realise it's happening.....
you may simply want to be a better person -
but given these risks........
best not to bother IMHO, be thankful for who you are, stay in the heart
sort out the muladhara when the higher chakras are activated
yogi Tom
--
Tom Aston
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 17:56:42 -0400 (EDT)
From: CGIAJWATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: (Forceful) Exercises Dangerous
Message-ID: <970702175640_323585391ATnospamemout20.mail.aol.com>
<< ...The reason people can not practice according to their own
preference is because they are unable to diagnose their own condition
because part of their condition is innapropriate diagnosis. ...You have
nothing to fear.
Most Kind Regards
Lobster
>>
Obviously Lobster thinks, as many do, that we do have something to fear (at
least on a physical/this life level) from incorrect practice
> >Kurt Keutzer wrote:
> >> ...could it be the case that there are individuals with a
> >> predisposition to an unbalanced awakening but there are no inherenly
> >> dangerous practices.
I tend to agree with Kurt
In my opinion (which is only as good as that) our subconcious knows what's
best for us and will only do things for our benifit, not that the need for
illusion isn't strong. If a practice does hurt or even kill I believe that
it does so in conjunction with our subconcious and for the eventual overall
benefit of our spirit.
As a personal rule of thumb, if I get the slightest impression that now isn't
the time for me to do something, I won't. I've yet to find anything in a
book that was so powerful that it knocked me into illness. I think that the
whole process is much like acid trip, except that both body and mind are
being played with. People need to go with the flow, think pleasant thoughts
and watch themselves. A bad K trip sucks, just as a bad acid trip sucks, but
both, in my opinion are due to the experiencer.
I also think that Lobster is much more likely to have negative K experiences
than Kurt. Kurt's upbeat trust in himself and his power lead me to think
that he will subconciously avoid most negative experiences, where-as Lobster
while perhaps resorting to prayer will see the K energy as something other
than himself, something which if handled improperly will cause a negative
reaction in himself. Lobster is leaving the back door open for K to wreck
havok in his system.
The view that greater energy is coming as some type of divine blessing from
an outside source allows for a more rapid and powerful experience because we
don't need to overcome our own misconceptions about our own power. To view
all of reality, energy, God, ect., as coming from within one's self is a
slower process because we can only experience the greater energies after we
accept that we have always had this God-like power inside us. By placing the
power in something other than ourselves, we can maintain our position in this
reality, but to have the power ourselves means that we must first overcome a
misconception of our own position in this reality.
Blah blah blah
believe what you think you should believe, I don't claim to be enlightened
yet, and anyway, there are an infinite ways to happiness, I don't care which
one you take, just find the one that will get you there
Everybody be nice to everybody else and this reality will be more fun
Everybody be nice and safe to youselves
:)
Aaron
Date: Wed, 02 Jul 1997 14:29:34
From: "alex" <alex-glATnospamusa.net> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: friendship
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970702142934.300f93fcATnospamdomin8rex.com>
Hi.
My name is Alex.
I am from Russia.
I don't know English very well (sorry),but I want
to find realy friends.
My interests:life,education,nature and other.
Write me:alex-glATnospamusa.net
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 16:50:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: susan carlson <carlsonsATnospamrocketmail.com>
To: "S.R.Peswani" <peswaniATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net.in>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Love + compassion
Message-ID: <19970702235033.22613.rocketmailATnospamsend1.rocketmail.com>
dear ram,
---"S.R.Peswani" <peswaniATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net.in> wrote:
> When one empties the mind ... the new mind comes in with right
knowledge
> for your upliftment or higher evolution at whatever stage you are.
who told you that and\or why do you believe it is so? is it from your
own experience or did your belief create that experience?
> No, it will make no difference (almost).If the time is not right you
will
> not understand what i am trying to convey. You see we are hardly
anything
> in this universe.>
see what i have experienced is I AM the universes, all dimensions,
all realities, alternate realities. . . .etc... this is my belief
which came out of my experience of my essence(s).
> > All of us are here for going there.
but arent we already here and there now?
> > Sorry to disappoint you , but the fact is "i" truely does not
exist.
> Neither ram nor susan , they are just mirages. Your "i" wants this
> juiciness.
yogananda's teacher defined god as 'evernew joy'. this is how the 'i'
feels to me. that is to me the juiciness of life.
> Till you think you are "i" you will rise...change for better if one
is
> balanced. Emptying the mind brings in knowledge which keeps on
balanced
> here in this world and there in other world.
i still don't quite understand the process of'emptying'. paul, the
christian apostle ( at least i think it might have been him, don't
remember anymore) said, 'be ye transformed by the renewing of your
mind'. this seems to be more of my experience in kundalini's effect on
me. effortless. maybe we say the same thing. . . just a semantic
difference or we yet have not a common language. i definately can say
i am not balanced (not really sure i want to be) but the change for
better keeps happening anyway.
> > Cause and effect... one has to go thro' deeper karmas , unless
some
> higher power merges you in Him and takes your karmas like Christ did.
is having a savior really appropos anymore in the times we live? i
dont
want anybody taking on my karmas. i earned them and cherish them as
teachers. i really think, imho,love and wisdom abolishes karmas in the
flow of time. i have seen the cords which connect me in a karmic
relationship dissolve when i look from outside the river of time. and
i certainly want to keep the karmas if they are beneficial. and
i am still not sure karma is 'real' even after what i have
experienced.
in gratitude and love,
susan
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Date: Wed, 02 Jul 1997 18:09:49 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: "alex (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)" <alex-glATnospamusa.net>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: friendship
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alex (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent ) wrote:
>
> Hi.
> My name is Alex.
> I am from Russia.
> I don't know English very well (sorry),but I want
> to find realy friends.
> My interests:life,education,nature and other.
> Write me:alex-glATnospamusa.net
HI Alex,
Nice to meet you. How did you find the kundalini list? Are you having
kundalini experiences?
It will be great getting to know someone from Russia. We have folks on
the list from literally all over. I'm in Reno, Nevada.
I published a small newspaper for 12 years and did a great cover story
on a man who went to Russia with small business people to teach people
in your country. His trip was a great experience, and he really came
back more aware and open. Gloria
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