1997/06/30 08:21
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #295
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 295
Today's Topics:
Anonymous request for help with k
RE: Tackyonisation....
quote - unquote
Unidentified subject!
RE: LOVE
Reiki
Re: Bibliography, Discography, Webography
Re: DECLARATION OF NON-INTEREST
Re: Bibliography, Discography, Webography
Re: Unidentified subject!
susbcribe
hi, i was wondering....
Re: Bibliography, Discography, Webography
Elementals
Love + compassion
RE: Tackyonisation....
Re: Love + compassion
Re: Faster than the speed of light. Was: Tackyonisation....
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 05:31:58
From: ori^ <oriATnospameskimo.com>
To: Kundalini-l <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Anonymous request for help with k
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To list members,
I have received the following posting from a person who seeks to remain
anonymous, but whom I think could benefit from the collective wisdom of the
members of this list. Please send any replies using the same subject and I
will forward them.
Thanks very much,
ori^
_________
>
>Hello,
> I am currently undergoing an intensified kundalini experience. I always
>did, but now it is intensified, body jerks, voices, lights, pressures. I
>would like to know if there are any safe herbal products that are helpful in
>my experience and what should I do to gain some type of organized control and
>integration in my experience. How do I distinguish boundaries etc. Any help
>on this matter would be greatly appreciated.
******
* ori^ *
* <mailto: oriATnospameskimo.com> *
* http://www.eskimo.com/~ori/ori.html *
******
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 13:57:45 +-100
From: Matthew King <mkingATnospamaxe.rcuk.cca.rockwell.com>
To: "'Morgana Wyze'" <morganaATnospambest.com>
Cc: "'kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com'" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: RE: Tackyonisation....
Message-ID: <01BC8494.6FDE5800ATnospamearn.rcuk.cca.rockwell.com>
Morgana, pardon my ignorance, as no doubt you have mentioned this on the list before, but what kind of clients to you have? How long is long term? How much weaker do the muscles get? What tachyon products do you use? How often do you treat your clients with tachyonised products? Do you use them on yourself? If not, do you think they are too risky?
Thank you to everyone who has commented. I am kind of in two minds at the moment. If muscle weakness is possible, I guess that rules their use out. I just don't know. Anyone else with experience with them??
Respect to all,
Matt K
Interesting person. I've found with my clients that there is an initial
improvement with tachyon products, then long-term muscle weakness. I
advise them mildly that they may want to not experiment on themselves.
Some do, some don't.
Morgana
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 08:11:41 -0700
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
CC: jan.watsonATnospamsympatico.ca, "Garden (the)" <thegardenATnospamworld.std.com>
Subject: quote - unquote
Message-ID: <33B67B2D.6FE8ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
Nothing in the world is good or bad, but thinking makes it so.
- William Shakespeare
Enlightenment is the ego's ultimate dissappointment.
- Trungpa Rinpoche
One does not become enlightened by imagining figures of light, but
by making the darkness conscious.
- Carl Jung
Nature, to be commanded, must be obeyed.
- Francis Bacon
Only the truly religious dare to question their faith.
- Edna Hosner
Language does not so much reflect reality as create it.
- Paul Watzlawick
Anyone can spot wrong answers. It takes a truly creative mind to
spot wrong questions.
- Anthony Jay
Science and religion are not so different in the end, except that
in science, the ultimate sin is believing too strongly.
- Marvin Minsky
Art is a lie that makes us realize the truth.
- Pablo Picasso
I'll play it first and tell you what it is later.
- Miles Davis
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 13:47:05 -0400
From: heidi <heidiATnospamadan.kingston.net>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Unidentified subject!
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> I have never liked the word love.
> If you love someone you love others less.
> Neither can God be love. Because all are equal in His eyes as per
> definition of God given by everyone.
> Why am i different from majority?
> ram
Does the word "cloning" hold as much distaste for you as it does for me?
Must everyTHING be equal? Where does Lust for Life, compassion for our
fellowmen, love for a child or parent, LOVE and PASSION for a lover and
soulmate come in?
When you dine in a fancy restaurant and find the food "out of this world" :)
would you ask for the chef to inform you of each ingredient, temperature of
the cooking, at what time of the day he picked up the meat and the veggies,
etc. ???
Instead of eating this exquisite dish with ZEST, SAVORING every morsel,
would you have it picked apart and ANALYZED to death and still think that
you would enjoy it as much?
On your deathbed, what would you regret the most about your life? That you
didn't analyze the ingredients of your life more in-depth than you have or,
that you didn't LIVE your life more spontaneously or PASSIONATELY?
If we are on this planet but once (we ain't SURE, are we??) ;) we had
better ENJOY it. If we do not, our well will run dry and we can not give to
the thirsty.
We who LOVE on every level do not need to know how much or how little we
LOVE. We just DO it.
Sister Theresa said it. "You must not THINK too much, but LOVE much".
LOVE, am
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 13:55:34 -0400
From: heidi <heidiATnospamadan.kingston.net>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: RE: LOVE
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> I have never liked the word love.
> If you love someone you love others less.
> Neither can God be love. Because all are equal in His eyes as per
> definition of God given by everyone.
> Why am i different from majority?
> ram
Does the word "cloning" hold as much distaste for you as it does for me?
Must everyTHING be equal? Where does Lust for Life, compassion for our
fellowmen, love for a child or parent, LOVE and PASSION for a lover and
soulmate come in?
When you dine in a fancy restaurant and find the food "out of this world" :)
would you ask for the chef to inform you of each ingredient, temperature of
the cooking, at what time of the day he picked up the meat and the veggies,
etc. ???
Instead of eating this exquisite dish with ZEST, SAVORING every morsel,
would you have it picked apart and ANALYZED to death and still think that
you would enjoy it as much?
On your deathbed, what would you regret the most about your life? That you
didn't analyze the ingredients of your life more in-depth than you have or,
that you didn't LIVE your life more spontaneously or PASSIONATELY?
If we are on this planet but once (we ain't SURE, are we??) ;) we had
better ENJOY it. If we do not, our well will run dry and we can not give to
the thirsty.
We who LOVE on every level do not need to know how much or how little we
LOVE. We just DO it.
Sister Theresa said it. "You must not THINK too much, but LOVE much".
LOVE, am
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 13:31:35 -0500
From: FIute <FIuteATnospamprodigy.net>
To: "kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Reiki
Message-ID: <33B6AA07.552FATnospamprodigy.net>
Reiki is Universal Chi.
Prana is the spiritual breath that actually means the same thing.. Chi,
Ki, Qi.
I recently met a Chi Kung master that decided that i was all wrong in
what I am doing and that I couldn't possibly have an open Crown Chakra.
He showed me a bald spot on his head and declared that this was a flat
spot in his head and was physical proof of his opening. I tried very
hard not to laugh. For one thing, the spot he declared showed his crown
open was in the wrong spot.. to far to the back of the head.
He had a number of misconceptions as far as I was concerned. One being
that years of training had to be involved to be perfect in Healing. If
you consider all the years I have thought about it and actually
intuitively done healing.. I guess you can say I have had a lifetime of
Healing/Teaching. In Chi Kung, one has to learn all the accupressure
points and know exactly where to focus the energy. In Reiki, you place
your palms anywhere on the body and the energy flows where it is needed.
Generally I am empathic and feel the different energy patterns around
the body, I think most of my Reiki Students do.
I have students already SUCCESSFUL practicing Reiki after a four hour
class, attunement and initiation. I think they have also already known
Reiki and the teachings are just a remembering at the conscious level.
We all intuitively/instinctivly know how to heal as we are all psychic
with just different levels of awareness. We are all one in the
universal mind and when we reach that level where the EGO blends into
the infinite, we know all things.
Dr. Usui/Takata teaches that Reiki is Universal Chi.. See my website
http://pages.prodigy.com/flute
and www.reiki.org (William Rands site)
love and light,
flute
aka
Carolyn Maloney
Reiki Master Teacher
Empath/Psychic
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 13:22:47 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: ori^ <oriATnospameskimo.com>
CC: Kundalini-l <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Bibliography, Discography, Webography
Message-ID: <33B65396.6C3BATnospamintercomm.com>
ori^ wrote:
>
> Hello K-ites,
> The process of compiling a list of resources for kundalini information
> is now commencing. Please send resources to me off-list to be compiled
> into a list of K-list Resources. oriATnospameskimo.com
>
> Useful information would include:
>
> Author:
> Title:
> Publisher:
> Date:
> ISBN:
> URL:
>
> Also helpful would be a brief annotation:
>
> I will compile a list and announce its initial readiness to be sent out to
> those who request it. I will add to it as new resources arise, and possibly
> look at putting it on the Web.
>
> So please share the resources you have encountered along your path.
> Old or new, book, article, music, web site...
>
> In light, ori^
>
> ori^
> <mailto: oriATnospameskimo.com>
> Kundalini Resources on the Web
> http://www.eskimo.com/~ori/kundalni.htm
Would you like to put my book in, it is written to take the reader into
a deep experience of energies and also detachment. Gloria
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 17:00:26 -0400 (EDT)
From: TPp40ATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: DECLARATION OF NON-INTEREST
Message-ID: <970629170025_-226300449ATnospamemout15.mail.aol.com>
Thanks for the reflection and questions to answeres that have come hard.
Time to be normal and do what needs to be done. Yes I like the company of
self and the joy of children when they are present. I find that it is the
faith/belief in something greater than all that sustains me and gives me
returning energy levels when the battles of life have me down.
From a simple man, I will save this for contiplation.
LLLL
TPp40
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 17:27:59 -0700 (PDT)
From: M <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net>
To: ori^ <oriATnospameskimo.com>, Kundalini-l <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Bibliography, Discography, Webography
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I must recommend, and very very highly at that,a book by Mantak Chia, Chi
Self-Massage. It is wonderful. (0-935621-01-06 Healing Tao Books, Huntington
N Y $10.95).
I recommend looking up all his works on Amazon.com
or this web page:
http://www.healing-tao.com/HealingTao_Books.html
I found this book more beneficial than Paulson's Kundalini and the Chakras.
I had an ear ache for many many weeks and nothing would heal it. Some well
explained and clearly diagramed exercises in the massage book seem to now be
the answer. They provide a simple way to get the energies moving and the
pain gone.
At 12:00 AM 6/29/97, ori^ wrote:
>Hello K-ites,
>The process of compiling a list of resources for kundalini information
>is now commencing. Please send resources to me off-list to be compiled
>into a list of K-list Resources. oriATnospameskimo.com
>Useful information would include:
>
>Author:
>Title:
>Publisher:
>Date:
>ISBN:
>URL:
>
>Also helpful would be a brief annotation:
>I will compile a list and announce its initial readiness to be sent out to
>those who request it. I will add to it as new resources arise, and possibly
>look at putting it on the Web.
>So please share the resources you have encountered along your path.
>Old or new, book, article, music, web site...
>In light, ori^
>ori^
><mailto: oriATnospameskimo.com>
>Kundalini Resources on the Web
>http://www.eskimo.com/~ori/kundalni.htm
>
>
>
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 10:32:26 +0500 (GMT+0500)
From: "S.R.Peswani" <peswaniATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net.in>
To: heidi <heidiATnospamadan.kingston.net>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Unidentified subject!
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On Sun, 29 Jun 1997, heidi wrote:
> > I have never liked the word love.
> > If you love someone you love others less.
> > Neither can God be love. Because all are equal in His eyes as per
> > definition of God given by everyone.
> > Why am i different from majority?
> > ram
>
>
> Does the word "cloning" hold as much distaste for you as it does for me?
> Must everyTHING be equal? Where does Lust for Life, compassion for our
> fellowmen, love for a child or parent, LOVE and
> On your deathbed, what would you regret the most about your life? That you
> didn't analyze the ingredients of your life more in-depth than you have or,
> that you didn't LIVE your life more spontaneously or PASSIONATELY?
>
> If we are on this planet but once (we ain't SURE, are we??) ;) we had
> better ENJOY it. If we do not, our well will run dry and we can not give to
> the thirsty.
>
> We who LOVE on every level do not need to know how much or how little we
> LOVE. We just DO it.
>
> Sister Theresa said it. "You must not THINK too much, but LOVE much".
>
>
> LOVE, am
>
> -------
ram replies,
All my friends denounce me because i have not accepted love. They
predict dry and unhappy life for me for now and for ever,
But that is fact of my life.
Instead compassion is what I am naturally made of . I have
accepted love as source of bliss and happiness and i am happy for all
the love fellows of this world.
I have also accepted that pain and dry life is my way of life.
That is what exactly i have been going thro' for my past five years of
meditation.
Today 30 june is exactly the sixth anniversary of my meditation,
i think of it as my second rebirth , so happy birthday is most welcome
from all th love fellows.
I have meditated by being highest evolutionary God in every
moment of meditation. It means that i am god when in meditation. I call
this pragya meditation advocated by Guatam Buddha.
When in that moment of meditation i realise that love is not
correct but compassion is.
But i do realise love and its importance and without love even
evolution will not move.
Compassion also has been giving me good results, in the sense
that i rejoice in the happiness of others when their karma pains are
taken away from them by me and dissolved by pragya meditation and much
less suffering on my part.
I also never pray.
ram
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 00:04:51 -0500 (CDT)
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Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 21:11:13
From: Gothic Rain <GothicRainATnospamGeocities.com> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: hi, i was wondering....
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hi,
im new to this list, and am a little confused.
i was pointed to kundalini by a friend, but im not sure what it is.
i was wondering if anyone could talk to me, so that i could find out
about kundalini.
i am willing to talk to the whole group or an individual, i just want to
do whats easiest for people. there is no point to offending people who
you want to help you.
-gothic rain (real)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 22:28:54
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: lodpressATnospamintercomm.com, ori^ <oriATnospameskimo.com>
Cc: Kundalini-l <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Bibliography, Discography, Webography
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Hello All:
Blessings and Love to Ori^ for taking on this large and sacred duty on our
behalf. I look forward with happy vision to my cherished copy of the
"Kundalini Cybrary!! I am sure the result will be an enormous and
fascinating document.
Please do send recommendations directly to her, not to the list address!!
Be kind to those of our members struggling to keep up with list traffic.
I will add her adress to my "List Mystress" sig, so it comes up more often.
We will all see them when the finished document comes out, anyway.. the
Celestine Cybrary doubled in size after it's first release, because seeing
other members recommendations jogged so many other memory-references in
members who had not yet contributed.
Gloria mentioned members who have actually written books on their
Kundalini experiences, and I must say, Bravo!! The prescence of these folks
on the list certainly contributes much.
IMHO, I think we ought to celebrate listmembers who are also Kundalini
authors with their own special section in the Cybrary. The final shape of
the Cybrary is up to Oii^, however I would invite such members to send her
all information about their book, and a paragraph or two that describes it.
Most of you have such text already written, but please spend a few moments
and write a fresh review, that points out the text in relation to list
experiences.
Someday I hope to join those ranks, as I am attempting to assemble the
archives of my own writing into a book, as well.. Wish me patience!
At 13:22 29/06/97 +0100, Gloria Greco wrote:
>ori^ wrote:
>>
>> Hello K-ites,
>> The process of compiling a list of resources for kundalini information
>> is now commencing. Please send resources to me off-list to be compiled
>> into a list of K-list Resources. oriATnospameskimo.com
>> ori^
>> <mailto: oriATnospameskimo.com>
>> Kundalini Resources on the Web
>> http://www.eskimo.com/~ori/kundalni.htm
>
>Would you like to put my book in, it is written to take the reader into
>a deep experience of energies and also detachment. Gloria
>
>
If you need more info, feel free to write to me at
kundalini-l-ownerATnospamexecpc.com
Love and electric blue K. fire, List Mystress.
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Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 21:19:53
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
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Subject: Elementals
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Devas are Faerie types... Thought you'd enjoy this.
Blessings, Angelique.
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>
>This was taken from : http://www.spiritweb.org/Spirit/elementals.html
>
>It is rather surprising....
>-----------
>>From the Findhorn Devas
>
> I and my subjects are willing to come to the aid of mankind in
>spite of the way he has treated us
> and abused nature, if he affirms belief in us and asks for our
>help. --Pan, God of the
> elementals.
>
> The elemental and devic worlds are far more powerful than the human
>kingdom at the present
> time, for they are still within attunement to the energies of God.
>God is not only the God of
> human beings. He is the Lord and Lover, Creator and the Nourisher,
>the Seed, the Promise
> and the fulfillment of all forms of nature and of the earth and of
>the cosmos, and beyond. To
> see this, you must attempt to see with His vision, know with His
>love, live with His life. It is
> as simple as that. Not a complex pattern. --Findhorn devas
>
> Just tune into nature until you feel the love flow. That is your
>arrow into the deva world.
> --Findhorn devas
>
> There are no individual egos with us; when you love one beech tree,
>for example, you love all
> beech trees, connected with the whole genus of beech. If the human
>kingdom could learn this
> quality it would mean the end of war and rivalry, competition and
>strife. --Landscape angel
>
> Let each garden be different and unique as is each soul. Man's
>trend should be to unity, not
> uniformity. Each to his own talent. --Tibetan blue poppy deva
>
> Today man manipulates the plant world for his own selfish purposes,
>treating it in the same
> commercial way as he does car components. You get better results
>from a child if you use love,
> not force. Although force may bring quicker results, it starts a
>chain reaction of other [negative]
> effects. --Foxglove deva
>
> Man is beginning to realize how much forests are needed by the
>planet. But he covers acres
> with one quick-growing species, selecting trees for economic
>reasons. This shows utter
> ignorance of the purpose of trees and their channeling of diverse
>forces. At present the planet
> needs more than ever just what is being denied it--the very forces
>which come through the large
> and stately trees. --Monterrey cypress deva
>
> Happiness has an especially good effect on plants, as do children
>at play. The greenhouse is
> invaluable. However, plastic frames cut out valuable rays.
>--Landscape angel
>
> As with your bodies, we are the result of millions of years of
>evolving patterns. Imagine the
> effect of an atomic bomb on our volatile media after aeons of
>ordered perfection! --Spirit of the
> wind
>
> Humans! Never content with their lot but always wanting to be as
>good or better than their
> neighbors. Comparison seems to us a noxious thing. God made each of
>us and each of you as
> we are, to be a particular expression of life. --Good King Henry
>deva
>
> What an integral part of the planet I am--longed for and hated,
>fierce and gentle. I am part of all
> living things, even your physical self. If you would rule us, first
>rule yourself, your own
> tempestuous nature and arid outlook. --Rain deva
>
> Man is destroying himself because he thinks he is separate. How can
>you possibly not know
> that when the wind blows it is part of you, that the sun is part of
>you with each sunbeam? How
> can you be so dense as not to know that if one suffers, the whole
>consciousness of the earth
> partakes of that? --Lord of the elements
>
>*****
>
>
Mystress Angelique Serpent,
Dominant Experiential Facilitator.
Website= http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent
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Swami Beyondananda on the Golden Rule: "It seems that when
masochists do unto others as they wish to be done unto, they
become sadists," the Swami said. "Consequently, the Golden Rule
has been recalled by the Maker until this design flaw can be fixed."
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 01:34:58 -0400
From: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net>
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Love + compassion
Message-ID: <33B74582.5DBDATnospammail.snet.net>
S.R.Peswani wrote:
> When in that moment of meditation i realise that love is not
> correct but compassion is.
Definition discretion here.
My perspective.
Love and compassion are inseparable.
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 08:48:10 +-100
From: Matthew King <mkingATnospamaxe.rcuk.cca.rockwell.com>
To: "'Morgana Wyze'" <morganaATnospambest.com>
Cc: "'kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com'" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: RE: Tackyonisation....
Message-ID: <01BC8532.580346C0ATnospamearn.rcuk.cca.rockwell.com>
Hello Morgana, thank you for such a swift reply. My subconscious mind says "Yes" to buying these products for myself, however I was going to get a pair of tachyonised soles for my mother, who has arthritis, and do not want her muscles to get any weaker than they already are. What products do your clients use? Do they use an oil and apply that directly or use a cell to provide a field around them?
Matt K
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 15:44:59 +0500 (GMT+0500)
From: "S.R.Peswani" <peswaniATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net.in>
To: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net>
Cc: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Love + compassion
Message-Id: <Pine.OSF.3.91.970630152306.12761A-100000ATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net.in>
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On Mon, 30 Jun 1997, David Bozzi wrote:
> S.R.Peswani wrote:
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> > When in that moment of meditation i realise that love is not
> > correct but compassion is.
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> Definition discretion here.
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> My perspective.
>
> Love and compassion are inseparable.
>
ram writes,
In june 92. i did a small experiment. For ten days i sat silent and
alone in a room. For first three days i brought my mind to one point
concentration at tip of my nose . Next three days I travelled on surface
of my whole body with this concentrated mind. This is form of vippassana
meditation. For next four days i brought in thoughts of love for everyone
i knew of.
Result was... for next 90 days i was filled with feeling of love for
my friends enemies etc. i was also in total bliss. Life was good to live
in. After 90 days i was getting bored of this feeling. And then i entered
deep inside my body with this concentrated mind...deep inside.
There were explosion after explosion ...like rising of k-energy. My
earlier nature of haterd fear etc. came back. Bliss was gone.
Later on i experimented with compassion. Compassion brought in more
balance of mind (samta), there was only satisfaction of doing some of
Gods work.
Also love fills the mind body without emptying deeper karmas.
Compassion empties the mind bringing one nearer the truth.
ram
>
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 11:20:24 -0400 (EDT)
From: PEGLUMPKINATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Faster than the speed of light. Was: Tackyonisation....
Message-ID: <970630112021_1859138273ATnospamemout01.mail.aol.com>
In a message dated 97-06-28 17:09:33 EDT, you write:
<< I've heard that anyone who truly understands the implications
of quantum physics finds themselves in the world of the mystic.
David,
checking out the quantum path too.
>>
Yes, it seems to work in the opposite direction too. Not only does the path
of science lead to mysticicsm, but the mystic or spiritual can lead to
science. I'm thinking in particular of a book called "The Genesis Cipher,"
by Carlos Suares. He re-translates the original text of Genesis in the Old
Testament using the original meanings of the 22 Hebrew ideograms, which each
represent one of the archetypal forces in the universes. The story of
creation then sounds more like a statement of quantum mechanics and
thermodynamics.
Peggy, trying to juggle both paths.
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