1997/06/29 03:00
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #294
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 294
Today's Topics:
Re: Hi from Rhavy
BEYOND DISSASOCIATION
Re: Tackyonisation....
(no subject)
Re: (no subject)
Re: Tackyonisation....
Faster than the speed of light. Was: Tackyonisation....
Re: Tackyonisation....
Re: Faster than the speed of light. Was: Tackyonisation....
Bibliography, Discography, Webography
Re: Assembly of Wisdom
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 02:46:59
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Cc: jan.watsonATnospamsympatico.ca
Subject: Re: Hi from Rhavy
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970628024659.081f012eATnospamdomin8rex.com>
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At 20:23 24/06/97 -0700, E Jason wrote:
>Rhavy Davidrajuh (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent ) wrote:
>
>> Hi Kundalites,
>
>> I have been lurking for several centuries before the K forum existed. It is
>> now my intention to reveal my mission to enlighten those in need of
>> bafflement. I wish to share the various K experiences I have not had. The
>> various chakras have steadfastly remained closed - very luckily. No psychic
>> powers of any description have manifested.
Perhaps this question is too obvious or I have missed something, but
enlighten me as to one thing: If you both are not awakened and have no
interest in raising your Kundalini, why have you joined the Kundalini list?
I know, pretty obvious.. but humor me.
>
>Well done Rhavy,
>Those of you with no manifestation of K but growth in qualities of the
>KKK
>(Kinship, Kindness and Knowledge) are doing much better than the
>shaktiput junkies and snake charmers (well done to those who are
>developing KKK too).
Here is some knowledge I would like to share:
Opinions are like assholes.. everybody's got one, and sometimes they are
full of shit.
Yay snake charmers and Shaktipat Junkies!! For they shall be amused and
happy on the Travelling Circus path to Enlightenment. I admit to being
something of a performer, and absolutely a card carrying snake charmer.
There is even a pic of me charming my snake on my homepage.
As far as shaktipat junkieness goes, yes indeedy. Yum yum give me more!
Went to see Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi last Friday, and I am still too
blown away by the potency of the vibration of the Mother Goddess she
manifests to be able to complete the post about it.
The next day tho, climbing the cliff up from the beach with some friends
and their friend, she complained of a sore back, so next time we sat to
rest I offered her some healing, and sat on the bench beside her with my
right hand on the middle of her back, while the four of us chatted and
gained our breath.
My hand heated up very quickly and intensely. She said whatever I was
doing felt good, then she mentioned it felt like burning heat in her
sacrum, at the middle of her hips. :) by the time we had lunch she said it
had reached her heart, and it felt like something burst open and she felt
really really wonderful. By the time we parted she said the energy had
reached her head. Way cool, eh?
I would say, visiting with Grandma Devi on Friday most definitely has had
an enhancing effect on my own K. contagiousness...
This post is likely pretty K. charged, it might make you sweat and
vibrate.. I would say, if you don't want to awaken your K., then this list
is probably not a good place to be...:)
Blessings, Angelique.
Mystress Angelique Serpent,
Dominant Experiential Facilitator.
Website= http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent
:D ;) :0 :) ;P :0 ;) :D :0 :) ;P :0 ;) :)
Swami Beyondananda on the Golden Rule: "It seems that when
masochists do unto others as they wish to be done unto, they
become sadists," the Swami said. "Consequently, the Golden Rule
has been recalled by the Maker until this design flaw can be fixed."
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Vancouver, B.C., Canada. Officially the most beautiful city in the world.
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 11:05:31 -0700
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
CC: jan.watsonATnospamsympatico.ca
Subject: BEYOND DISSASOCIATION
Message-ID: <33B5526B.6E5AATnospamdial.pipex.com>
Ken McFarland wrote:
> Today I discovered that it is possible to simply "step back" out of painful
> processing or rumination and view the process without pain. It is something
> like being in the projection booth of a theater watching one's own cognitive
> process without the normally attendant affect. This led to the formulation
> of the following typology. I have conceptualized a 7th level and there may
> be other level of which I am not yet aware.
Well done Ken.
POWER TO YOU. STRENGTH TO YOU.
It is a joy to watch your unfolding and great efforts.
BEYOND DISSASOCIATION
1. AWARENESS: Finding pleasant and positive affirmations. Seeking
pleasure and pleasant experiences, more and more (as a preference)
2. LOCUS AWARE: Focussing on the nature of the positive and allowing the
arising of guilt, negativity etc to be seen for what it is and its
cause, allowing it to naturally dissapate. The Negative is not the
focus, the positive is.
3. EXTERNAL AWARE: Realising that positive imagery becomes easier to
create with practice (just as the negative has been allowed to) the
person becomes more centred on how they would prefer to be.
4. SOURCE AWARE: Realising that the generation of positive thoughts
needs reinforcement from a practice, group or external reinforcement
such help is actively sought, found and developed.
5. SELF RESPONSIBILITY: Realising no one is going to make us happy but
our own selves a serious effort of self improvement is engaged in.
6. META AWARE: The positive is used as a preferred mind state (for
eventual trancandence). Disassociation from secondary processing allows
the constant observation of the existing and transforming mind without
involvement in value judgements and secondary thinking. This is living
in the now.
God Bless
Most Kind Regards
Lobster
----------------------
> TYPOLOGY OF PAIN PROCESSINGT
>
> 1. UNAWARE: The individual is experiencing psychic pain in his life but is
> unaware that mentation or cognitive processing is involved.
>
> 2. LOCUS AWARE: The individual is experiencing psychic pain in his life and
> he is aware that the locus of his pain seems to have something to do with
> his mental functioning, but is not aware of process dynamics.
>
> 3. EXTERNAL AWARE: The individual is experiencing psychic pain in his life,
> he is aware that the locus of his pain is cognitive, arising from thoughts
> and images, but he attributes this painful processes to external sources; in
> particular, the things that others are or are not doing.
>
> 4. SOURCE AWARE: The individual is experiencing psychic pain in his life, he
> is aware that the locus of his pain is cognitive, arising from thoughts and
> images. He understands that he is the source of the painful thoughts and
> images, but he has no awareness of control over them.
>
> 5. CONTROL AWARE: The individual is experiencing psychic pain in his life,
> he is aware that the locus of his pain is cognitive, arising from thoughts
> and images. He understands that he is the source of the painful thoughts and
> images, and he is aware of his ability to intervene by substitution or
> diversion of his problematic thoughts. He can empathize, consider longer
> term possibilities, inject positive thought streams, and interviene in a
> number of similar ways that direct his thoughts in a way to eliminate
> painful mismatches.
>
> 6. META AWARE: The individual is experiencing psychic pain in his life, he
> is aware that the locus of his pain is cognitive, arising from thoughts and
> images. He understands that he is the source of the painful thoughts and
> images, and he is aware of his ability to intervene by substitution or
> diversion of his problematic thoughts. He is also aware that he can step
> back and disengage from the pain of mismatch. He can direct his brain to
> view the process from a perspective outside of the pain circuitry. From this
> perspective he can still clear see pain producing mismatches. He still
> understands the great importance and affective value he has imprinted upon
> his reference criteria, but he is able to view these elements and processes
> without engaging the pain producing circuitry. He is using metacognition. In
> this mode of processing he facilitates rational appraisal and planning.
--
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Kundalini Psychosis
Esoteric Satanism Cyber Guru
http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/place/vv60/
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 11:25:35 -0400 (EDT)
From: PEGLUMPKINATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Tackyonisation....
Message-ID: <970628112534_1587542209ATnospamemout01.mail.aol.com>
In a message dated 97-06-24 16:59:45 EDT, you write:
<< http://www.tachyon-energy.com/welcome.htm >>
Dear Matt,
As I understand it, the concept of tachyons has been pretty much abandoned
for a variety of reasons. (The tachyon is only a theoretical particle that
travels faster than the speed of light.) First of all, if tachyons existed,
they would have to travel backwards in time. Second, they would be on the
opposite side of the speed of light barrier from us. Third, there are no
phenomena or anomalies that point to their existence. Fourth, their
existence would invalidate relativity and quantum theory.
About three years ago, my acupuncturist was selling tachyon products and had
me watch a sales video that included testimonials by athletes about how the
tachyon accessories improved their strength and endurance. This
acupuncturist also tucks a bottle of tachyon water in his belt when doing
muscle testing. This same acupuncturist is the one who told me that my soul
is originally from Venus, that I am contacting 10th dimension reality, that I
have 368 guardian angels, and that I have 1,999 "spiritual chakras," whatever
that means. (By the way, he also said he had his kundalini energy activated
in 1995 by a master in China and that he didn't sleep for 13 days.) My
reaction to the tachyon video was that, if this theoretical particle whose
existence would overturn our whole concept of the universe were actually
manufactured or harnessed, would we only find it in a marketing scheme to
enhance performance for inane athletic competition?
Does this mean wearing tachyon water in a necklace can make you feel better?
Of course it can. We can probably imbue any device we want with healing
powers. It can be an amulet, a crystal, a magnet, a rosary, an icon, or any
tool we choose to trigger a belief system within ourselves. It may be the
same phenomenon that occurs when the tarot cards, the pendulum, the I Ching
coins, or the crystal ball cue the intuitive ability that already resides
within user.
Do you remember in the Disney movie when Timothy the mouse gave Dumbo the
magic feather so he could fly? Well, maybe all this psychic gadgetry is only
necessary until we can admit that the magic is in ourselves, and we can fly
without our feathers.
(This is not imply that we are all Dumbos!)
Peggy
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 16:43:04 -0700
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: BUDDHISTATnospamVM1.MCGILL.CA
CC: genius-LATnospamnewciv.org, jan.watsonATnospamsympatico.ca, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com,
tariqasATnospamworld.std.com
Subject: (no subject)
Message-ID: <33B5A188.CCCATnospamdial.pipex.com>
It would seem that in the future, air has become a valuable commodity. A
group of air traders decide to find the highest quality air available.
They are all experts in air trading but prefer to leave the breathing to
their customers.
On the way to the best air shop available, they encounter someone
trying to sell half price air.
"My dear friend," says the main air expert, "we at are not interested in
diluted or cut price air, we need the authentic item." They move on.
This time they are met by someone offering free air.
"My dear friend," says the main air expert, "we at are not interested in
"Free" air as it then has no value."
When they arrive at the air shop their leader addresses the owner of the
shop, "My dear friend, we have come to purchase your finest air.
"Oh dear," says the shop owner. "You must be those ridiculous air
traders we hear so much about."
"There is nothing ridiculous about air. We have made a fine living from
trading in this commodity."
"But it is all around, why do you not just breathe?" insists the shop
keeper.
"Because then there would be nothing for us to do."
"Very well," says the shop owner, "what sort of air can I get you ladies
and gentlemen, we have some excellent hot air - fresh in today."
Most Kind Regards
Lobster
--
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Kundalini Psychosis
Esoteric Satanism Cyber Guru
http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/place/vv60/
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 97 17:10:31 GMT
From: cen06681ATnospamcenturyinter.net
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: (no subject)
Message-Id: <M.062897.121031.42ATnospamcenturyinter.net>
Your passage on air reminds me of a book that I helped to publish in L.A. by
Ysatis de Saint - Simon, called "Return of the Little Prince". This was a truly
transformational work, and helping the initiates to publish it, even for the
short time that I was there, was a truly transformational experience. All in a
days work, on the path to "knowledge"
Lindewey
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 17:01:28 -0400
From: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net>
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Tackyonisation....
Message-ID: <33B57BA8.582EATnospammail.snet.net>
PEGLUMPKINATnospamaol.com wrote:
> (The tachyon is only a theoretical particle that
> travels faster than the speed of light.) First of all, if tachyons existed,
> they would have to travel backwards in time. Second, they would be on the
> opposite side of the speed of light barrier from us. Third, there are no
> phenomena or anomalies that point to their existence. Fourth, their
> existence would invalidate relativity and quantum theory.
>
Einstein showed to propel particles faster than the
speed of light would require an infinite supply of energy.
However, particles already traveling better then light speed
are not ruled out by his theory/insight.
Keeping consistent with the dualistic nature of the universe
I tend to believe there are backward time flowing dimensions.
When one accesses past experiences on an experiential level
from anything from a crystal to a goddess, quantum physics may
well find tachyons a suitable description for such phenomena.
I've heard that anyone who truly understands the implications
of quantum physics finds themselves in the world of the mystic.
David,
checking out the quantum path too.
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 16:44:06 -0700 (PDT)
From: M <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net>
To: david.bozziATnospamsnet.net, Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Faster than the speed of light. Was: Tackyonisation....
Message-Id: <199706282344.QAA13248ATnospamgridsat.thegrid.net>
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I have some direct experience with Love traveling faster than the
speed of light, (I'll bet others here do too) and guess what? It
can and does erase the past!
I do believe Love is the Total Theory of Everything they have been
looking for all these many years now.
M
At 05:01 PM 6/28/97 -0400, David Bozzi wrote:
>PEGLUMPKINATnospamaol.com wrote:
>
>> (The tachyon is only a theoretical particle that
>> travels faster than the speed of light.) First of all, if tachyons existed,
>> they would have to travel backwards in time. Second, they would be on the
>> opposite side of the speed of light barrier from us. Third, there are no
>> phenomena or anomalies that point to their existence. Fourth, their
>> existence would invalidate relativity and quantum theory.
>>
>
>Einstein showed to propel particles faster than the
>
>speed of light would require an infinite supply of energy.
>
>However, particles already traveling better then light speed
>
>are not ruled out by his theory/insight.
>
>
>Keeping consistent with the dualistic nature of the universe
>
>I tend to believe there are backward time flowing dimensions.
>
>
>When one accesses past experiences on an experiential level
>
>from anything from a crystal to a goddess, quantum physics may
>
>well find tachyons a suitable description for such phenomena.
>
>
>I've heard that anyone who truly understands the implications
>
>of quantum physics finds themselves in the world of the mystic.
>
>
>
>David,
>
>checking out the quantum path too.
>
>
>
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 17:53:15 -0700
From: Morgana Wyze <morganaATnospambest.com>
To: PEGLUMPKINATnospamaol.com
CC: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Tackyonisation....
Message-ID: <33B5B1FB.35C7ATnospambest.com>
> About three years ago, my acupuncturist was selling tachyon products and had
> me watch a sales video that included testimonials by athletes about how the
> tachyon accessories improved their strength and endurance. This
> acupuncturist also tucks a bottle of tachyon water in his belt when doing
> muscle testing. This same acupuncturist is the one who told me that my soul
> is originally from Venus, that I am contacting 10th dimension reality, that I
> have 368 guardian angels, and that I have 1,999 "spiritual chakras," whatever
> that means.
Interesting person. I've found with my clients that there is an initial
improvement with tachyon products, then long-term muscle weakness. I
advise them mildly that they may want to not experiment on themselves.
Some do, some don't.
Morgana
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 21:54:00 -0400
From: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net>
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Faster than the speed of light. Was: Tackyonisation....
Message-ID: <33B5C038.645EATnospammail.snet.net>
M wrote:
>
> I have some direct experience with Love traveling faster than the
> speed of light, (I'll bet others here do too) and guess what? It
> can and does erase the past!
Yes, Love is timeless. I "hear" you.
> I do believe Love is the Total Theory of Everything they have been
> looking for all these many years now.
>
Yes. I work on an assumption that I cannot prove, but don't feel
I need too. It resonates deeply for me.
That is, the laws of the universe reflect the Laws of Consciousness.
It is really only one law.
The Law of Love.
Peace,
David
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 00:00:01
From: ori^ <oriATnospameskimo.com>
To: Kundalini-l <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Bibliography, Discography, Webography
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970629000001.3e77f4e0ATnospammail.eskimo.com>
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Hello K-ites,
The process of compiling a list of resources for kundalini information
is now commencing. Please send resources to me off-list to be compiled
into a list of K-list Resources. oriATnospameskimo.com
Useful information would include:
Author:
Title:
Publisher:
Date:
ISBN:
URL:
Also helpful would be a brief annotation:
I will compile a list and announce its initial readiness to be sent out to
those who request it. I will add to it as new resources arise, and possibly
look at putting it on the Web.
So please share the resources you have encountered along your path.
Old or new, book, article, music, web site...
In light, ori^
ori^
<mailto: oriATnospameskimo.com>
Kundalini Resources on the Web
http://www.eskimo.com/~ori/kundalni.htm
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 04:55:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: TPp40ATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Assembly of Wisdom
Message-ID: <970629045509_1046259122ATnospamemout08.mail.aol.com>
"Water finds it's own level." "The proof is in the pudding." "Judge by
actions not words." From the peace of the cabin, I wish well for all.
LLLL
TPp40 for a while longer
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