1997/06/22 14:44
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #284
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 284
Today's Topics:
Re: Chakra correspondences
Re: New vocabulary needed for new vision
love and light alert
essential oils
REIKI/ Lightning:odd experiences
Re: Qabalah info. on the Net
Re: REIKI
Re: <<<<<Obsidian speaks
Re: The key to the unified field.
<<<<<Solstice - anniversary - two-speed vibromatic bed
Re: PLANETARY CONSCIOUSNESS
Re: essential oils
Simple Really
Re: Simple Really
Job and Financial stuff...
K H2O Vibe
Re: energy/ Lightning:odd experiences
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 13:59:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: M <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net>
To: "Jennie L" <sekhmet69ATnospamhotmail.com>, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Chakra correspondences
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I can't help with the planetary correspondences but would like to know about
them also. Could you please share the herbs, gems, foods, and any etc.'s
you have) with our list please. M
At 12:24 PM 6/20/97 PDT, Jennie L wrote:
>hello, I was wondering if anyone could tell me the planetary
>correspondences for the chakras. I have found information on the herbs,
>gems, foods, etc. and am having difficulty finding information on the
>planetary influences. Also if anyone knows of any information on Asana
>or how to Assume Egyptian godforms it would be greatly appreciated. The
>info I have is sketchy at best. Also : I wish to thank Lobster for his
>reply to my last question about the correspondences between the
>Kundalini, chakras and the Tree of Life. Thankyou for your time
>Sincerely, Sekhmet
>
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Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 18:40:21 -0400 (EDT)
From: LibraKat11ATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: New vocabulary needed for new vision
Message-ID: <970621184020_1586532443ATnospamemout03.mail.aol.com>
Sylvia,
I loved your description of your *bread-vision*! I don't see in *slices,*
but I do see everything in glowing brilliant technicolor. It took me awhile
to realize that most people don't see color as being this bright. It is so
heart-wrenchingly beautiful that at times I'm overwhelmed.
I can never describe this very accurately, but it's as if I see everything
sharply, crystal clear. I see the energy of life flowing through each thing
separately as if the energy is vibrating at different speeds (which I assume
it is), yet I see the energetic connectedness, too. I understand what you
mean about seeing "the entire view front to back."
Does anyone else see this way? If so, maybe you can describe it better than
I have. I'm not sure it's a result of K, but it sure has gotten stronger
since K. I've never seen any info on this.
Love,
Kat
<< Within a few months of K manifesting itself, I began to see (particularly
landscape views) in a new way. Whatever is in front of my eyes is sliced
into segments just like a loaf of bread. Each slice of "bread" is then
divided into segments. I have counted 10 "slices" of bread and ten segments
within each slice. Each of the now 100 segments seems to reflect the entire
view front to back, but somehow they build on oneanother and magnify the
interaction between everything as well as defining crisp sharp distinctions
between the beginning and endings of things.
>>
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 20:55:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: susan carlson <carlsonsATnospamrocketmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: love and light alert
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dear k-lights,
i live in denver, colorado, usa, site of the G7 (plus 1-russia). i
only live 2 blocks away from the meeting site. the energy is pretty
funky here and frenetic.
as i walked home past the capitol building today, iranian expatriates
were rallying on the steps. yesterday, it seems the expatriates
declared war on the khomeni regime and elected a new president. (right
in my own backyard a war started...think of it). i passed children
running with sticks, shouting like soldiers and making war noises. .
.:::heavy sigh:::
walking downtown thru the barricades, myriads of uniforms wearing guns,
seeing the sharpshooters on top of the tall buildings, having secret
service agents tell my classmates that they will be shot if they cross
the street. . .it's just very wearying.
because of the solstice and the full moon time my body is rumbling
with k. i try to keep my sense of humor. . .there is intense pomp and
circustance happening. . .i think what a waste. . .haven't people
heard of conference calls. . . and i also think of the enormity of
what is happening in light of the call for the blue pearl initiative.
i was selfish and only wanted to be included in your meditations and
prayers, but wouldn't this be a great opportunity to have an impromptu
global peace and healing meditation focused here to denver? please
send much love and light to denver. wouldn't a profound kundalini
awakening of the world's leaders be something to behold?
i would consider myself fortunate and grateful to bask in the spill off
of all that love being directed our way.
many blessings and much love,
susan
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Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 20:57:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: susan carlson <carlsonsATnospamrocketmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: essential oils
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does anyone know of any essential oils that a)enhance k awakening,
b)soothe k symptoms or c)aggravate k?
thanks,
susan
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Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 22:00:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: susan carlson <carlsonsATnospamrocketmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: REIKI/ Lightning:odd experiences
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hello
i had an unusual experience regarding reiki and another regarding
lightning. i would like some feedback.
for awhile i have been considering taking reiki classes. i had a
personal prejudice against taking the classes, i must say, for the
reason there is such secrecy around the guarding of the symbols. i do
have a lot of unsettled energy around 'secrets' because i have this
core belief that everything that is hidden is to be revealed.
this 'conflict' with secrecy was keeping me from really jumping into
taking the classes... and i know the party line around the secrecy is
to keep the symbols from being abused and to keep some knucklehead
from calling him/herself a reiki master when they are not.
anyway, i still felt the whisper to seek it out. while doing research
on reiki thru the internet i came across a site where a reiki master
had
posted some information on the symbols and why they were to be kept
secret. although he did not reveal the symbols, he did reveal the
translation of the symbols and what they are for...a little thought
occurred on the fringes of my subconscious. . .'words are only the
symbol for energy'. . .as the thought began to dissolve i was brought
up by a bolt of energy up my back that made me think my head was going
to pop off. i could barely retain consciousness as this very
'yang'(the only word that i can think of describing this energy)
frequency pulsed through my body. it was a few minutes before i could
let go of the sides of my chair because i thought i would fall over.
had an energy hangover for awhile. the whole experience was on a
kinesthetic level.
just thought i'd share this and see if anyone has any insights.
btw, i did find a site that posted the symbols.
regarding my lightning experience...
last sunday, i lay down for an afternoon nap. seem to need those a lot
these days. i never fell asleep because i was listening to the
rumblings of an approaching thunderstorm.(they are magnificent here in
the rockies.) as i lay still a wave of bliss spasmed through my body.
there was also an almost instantaneous flash of lightning followed by
an immediate response of thunder. then another spasm of bliss
followed by the immediate flash of light then the immediate thunderous
response. this happened several more times. the spasms decreasing in
frequency the more the storm passed further away. is this just a
coincidence? will i find myself lying in open fields waiting for a
passing thunderstorm?
btw, has anywone seen the movie,"Powder" linking consiousness and
lightning (among other things)?
blessings
susan
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Date: Sun, 22 Jun 1997 01:40:25 -0400 (EDT)
From: DeeAnkhATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Qabalah info. on the Net
Message-ID: <970622014025_-59246187ATnospamemout19.mail.aol.com>
Hi--here is a qbl website I copied down a while ago, but have not yet
visited--let me know if it's any good: http://Kabbalah_web.org
when you search for these sites, you may have to take into account the many
alternate spellings possible: it may have an effect on what can be
found---don't know how cross-referenced these are---e.g. kabbalah; qabala;
cabala; qabbalah; etc.
blessings, Dee
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 23:16:31 -0700
From: Morgana Wyze <morganaATnospambest.com>
To: susan carlson <carlsonsATnospamrocketmail.com>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: REIKI
Message-ID: <33ACC33F.4A7ATnospambest.com>
Reply to Susan Carlson:
The book "Esential Reiki" by Diane Stein contains the Reiki symbols
including those used for transmissions.
Morgana
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 23:29:59 -0700
From: "Daniel L. Rusch-Fischer" <stampmanATnospamix.netcom.com>
To: cen06681ATnospamcenturyinter.net
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: <<<<<Obsidian speaks
Message-ID: <33ACC663.20DF0B58ATnospamix.netcom.com>
Hello,
The only specifics that I found out (from the Milwaukee
Public Museum staff) was that the material of the dagger was
from the Crater Lake area of Oregon and the workmanship was
Mesoamerican. They didn't share anything more, but true to
what the discoverer had suspected began pressing for its
origins and I let my inquiries go at that point since I had
promised the owner discretion on that point.
Dan-RF
ps: I often wondered about how it got to a burial mound in
Wisconsin - were these things that common - one usually only
hears about them in the Aztec/sacrifice context.
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 23:05:31 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: esberk1ATnospamjuno.com
CC: serpentATnospamwww.iceonline.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: The key to the unified field.
Message-ID: <33AC502A.7543ATnospamintercomm.com>
The subject of earning money, suddenly different:
It is not unusual for individuals making a shift in consciousness to
have some tests in the letting go process. Everything is in transition
and the more your serious about changing your reality, the more things
must change.
Like you said you have worked from a thought form or pattern, work,
earn, get. That was effective on a pure world level, now you have
brought into that a higher frequency of awareness. There are still steps
to take in the process. The next is not my will but thy will, the
further you go into this... the more reality shifts. When you live from
habit, mind, thought, projection... a lot of concepts like thinking
positive, etc, are used to fire up the engine and belief system.
Normally people are pretty successful on this level since it is very
self controlled. When you are entering into realization however, that
self becomes more aware. This accounts for your sudden realization that
something is different. What worked before will gradually fall away.
And, a brand new reality is taking form, while it is challenging in many
ways, it is also a great gift. What is important is not how you make it,
but the awareness of the changes. By the way, you do make it but through
connecting up to inner truth which teaches you how to be open, and how
to receive in the flow of the creative current. Gloria
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 1997 00:01:16 -0700
From: "Daniel L. Rusch-Fischer" <stampmanATnospamix.netcom.com>
To: Kundalini Mailing List <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: <<<<<Solstice - anniversary - two-speed vibromatic bed
Message-ID: <33ACCDB9.1B6C4DA6ATnospamix.netcom.com>
Hello (k)ites:
This evening is my one-year anniversary of my
spontaneous kundalini awakening. It has been an eventful
year; filled with changes and wonders. Peaks have
corresponded with solstices and equinoxes - not precisely,
but generally within a few days.
Karen, my wife, has been a barometer through it all and
a brick as well. Having had no background in spirituality,
no professed religion, no meditational/yogic practice; I was
unprepared for much of what has happened, but have seemed to
have had a capacity for watching with detachment the
process. Karen has stood by and supported me through this
bizarre experience and has only one concern; that it may
happen to her. Although she says she can watch and support
the changes in me, she says that she doubts she could
survive with mental stability it happening to her.
That said, I here relate an interesting anecdote
concerning one of my personal k-manifestations; I have
posted about it several times and some may recall my
references to the 'vibromatic bed'.
I don't remember specifically when Karen first mentioned
it to me, but I 'vibrate'. We sleep in a waterbed and she
made mention of the fact that at times when I have drifted
off to sleep, vibrations will start to emanate through the
water that she can feel. She describes it as what she
imagines bathing in champagne might be like with little
bubbles sizzling and cavorting against her skin. The
vibrations are steady and constant, yet when she would reach
over and touch my skin, she could not feel anything; only
through the medium of the water could she feel it.
As has happened many times before, a new twist or
manifestation occurs and Karen 'forgets' to tell me about
it. She told me tonight that one occurred the night before
last. Actually, I have been 'vibrating' steadily for the
past several nights, but since that comes and goes she just
enjoys it and drifts off to champagne dreams to its rhythm
and hadn't mentioned it at all; ho-hum ordinary stuff.
However, night before last, I had gone to bed ahead of
her and drifted off. As soon as she had gotten in, she felt
actual waves in the water; strong and like she had never
felt before. No champagne bubbles these, she rode the surges
for 15 straight minutes and then they kicked into normal
gear. She relates that she was VERY disappointed as they
were so strong, she was getting a physical thrill out of it
and was unprepared for it to stop; just like a man, eh,
wham-bam, 15-solid minutes of surging thrills and
thank-you-ma'am!
Have a nice solstice, so mote it be!
Love and LAUGHING LIGHT,
Dan-RF
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 1997 03:03:17 -0400 (EDT)
From: DeeAnkhATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: PLANETARY CONSCIOUSNESS
Message-ID: <970622030316_173414837ATnospamemout08.mail.aol.com>
speaking of Labyrinths, the Fellowship of Isis in Chicago has a Labyrinth
available--it was used at our last convention, in conjunction with a mystery
play, "The Mystery of the Labyrinth." It is a portable one,and can travel
anywhere there is a 40 foot space.
blessings, Dee
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 1997 08:47:18 +0100
From: Tom Aston <yogi.tomATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, susan carlson <carlsonsATnospamrocketmail.com>
Subject: Re: essential oils
Message-ID: <iZxdcEAGiNrzEw4SATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
In message <19970622035716.3515.rocketmailATnospamsend2.rocketmail.com>, susan
carlson <carlsonsATnospamrocketmail.com> writes
>does anyone know of any essential oils that a)enhance k awakening,
>b)soothe k symptoms or c)aggravate k?
>
>thanks,
>susan
>
sandalwood rubbed into the ajna and crown is wonderful if you soak up
its prana at the same time
a drop of sandalwood oil on the tongue (make sure it's safe for
consumption) is food for the soul
rose oil is soothing, good on the heart
bathing with a few drops of rose oil is good
>
>
>
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Date: Sun, 22 Jun 1997 09:04:47 -0700
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Simple Really
Message-ID: <33AD4D1F.60C2ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
Understanding of Ultimates is normally indulged in by those unable to
face the relative.
As we are all related our understanding of our own motivations and
reasoning should give us insight to similar processes in others. We have
to slow down sufficiently to observe our processes at work. So an
initial stage is very much one of seperation between ourselves and our
being; the duality of observing ourselves.
After a while of understanding the process of the many things that arise
but are not real, mostly secondary emotional responses based on
misunderstanding, these mind arisings lessen in impact.
We calm and slow.
Then we are able to become more integrated with the process of just
being ourselves, returning to the separating if needed.
So now we have moved from watching and observing to Being. In the
secondary stage of Being, the individual finds the arisings become ever
more refined and subtle and again the process becomes one of choosing
which aspects of the Self to Be. So now we have real choices as in what
to Be. If we make the choices that are to do with Tao, Ultimate Reality,
Shakti or our own intrinsic (non-existent) nature we become more aligned
to this K "Force" and we are able to allow "it" increasingly the
capacity to direct whilst our little being takes a back seat.
We are now in the process of allowing Reality to shape and direct our
Being (through choice). This process of refinement may take many years
or decades (much spiritual training involves, refinement BEFORE the
experience - this is its value). Eventually the individual person dies
completely. Ultimate Reality is now in Being.
Most Kind Regards
Lobster
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 1997 11:13:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: M <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net>
To: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Simple Really
Message-Id: <199706221813.LAA09170ATnospamgridsat.thegrid.net>
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Lobster,
I like what you are saying here. The one refinement I would make is that
I'd say the process does not call to mind the straight, always forward
moving line that you imply. I'd say these progressions tend to be more like
a spiral, often with certain elements cycling round again and again until
they can ultimately spin off. Do you know what I mean?
M
At 09:04 AM 6/22/97 -0700, E Jason wrote:
>Understanding of Ultimates is normally indulged in by those unable to
>face the relative.
>As we are all related our understanding of our own motivations and
>reasoning should give us insight to similar processes in others. We have
>to slow down sufficiently to observe our processes at work. So an
>initial stage is very much one of seperation between ourselves and our
>being; the duality of observing ourselves.
>After a while of understanding the process of the many things that arise
>but are not real, mostly secondary emotional responses based on
>misunderstanding, these mind arisings lessen in impact.
>We calm and slow.
>Then we are able to become more integrated with the process of just
>being ourselves, returning to the separating if needed.
>So now we have moved from watching and observing to Being. In the
>secondary stage of Being, the individual finds the arisings become ever
>more refined and subtle and again the process becomes one of choosing
>which aspects of the Self to Be. So now we have real choices as in what
>to Be. If we make the choices that are to do with Tao, Ultimate Reality,
>Shakti or our own intrinsic (non-existent) nature we become more aligned
>to this K "Force" and we are able to allow "it" increasingly the
>capacity to direct whilst our little being takes a back seat.
>We are now in the process of allowing Reality to shape and direct our
>Being (through choice). This process of refinement may take many years
>or decades (much spiritual training involves, refinement BEFORE the
>experience - this is its value). Eventually the individual person dies
>completely. Ultimate Reality is now in Being.
>
>
>Most Kind Regards
>Lobster
>
>
>
>
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 1997 13:04:07 -0700
From: Paul Ellis <pauleATnospamsirius.com>
To: esberk1ATnospamjuno.com
CC: Kundalini Mailing List <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Job and Financial stuff...
Message-ID: <33AD8537.5D95CEB3ATnospamsirius.com>
Doreen (esberk1ATnospamjuno.com) wrote:
{snip}
> Here is the problem: My perception of earning money used
> to be as such: Work....earn...get....work earn get....
> Now my perception has shifted to: Receive to give......
> This has not worked to well for me.... and I receive .... all sorts
> of things.... but nothing that I can as yet filter out to do it's job
> with an income as one of the aspects.
> Could someone please help me to understand this. It is
> really a mess financially where I sit....and I am really...really..
> worried...and do not seem to go beyond it. Not even enough
> to go and just get a job. I am really stuck.
Well, I can really relate because I'm just now getting out of a situation
very much like the one you describe. I just started a new job that I
_really_ like and I can report that there is light at the end of the
tunnel. I was out of work for a long while, went thru my savings and
started getting into a fair amount of debt. During the time I was out of
work, I was feeling depressed and isolated -- in all, a long, very
unpleasant time.
Angelique's post was full of great ideas about how to get in touch with
some vision of something you'd really like to be doing. Then, for me at
least and maybe for you, there's another aspect: the practical,
energetic, get-up-and-go, how-do-I-do-this? part of job/career change.
And the thing that I found was most helpful in maintaining the energy and
focus needed at a time like this and also helpful in actually providing
job leads, contacts etc, was ***telling friends and family that you're
looking for work****. I got a lot of good specific ideas about job
opportunities and potential employers from friends. Now I didn't get a
job really quickly, but I did get a lot of good ideas from friends, and
when I finally did get hired it was with a company that I'd been directed
to by a close friend.
I know this can be different if you're interested in a self-employment
situation, but I think you may still get good ideas from the people you
know. Perhaps even more importantly this kind of interpersonal
communication about your goal somehow seems to me to tell the universe to
turn on the opportunity faucet. Also talking to people and checking out
potential jobs gives you the opportunity to summon up the energy you'll
be using when you find the right situation.
Anyway, perhaps there's something in there that'll be useful. If it
helps, I was in a very scary place and am now paying off debts and moving
in the right direction. And also, I'd say trust your inner guidance.
Sometimes it leads you into strange places, maybe even places where you
feel "really stuck" as you say. It was the same with me. But if you
combine that inner wisdom with some help from people around you *that you
feel are supportive* it might do the trick. Did for me. Please don't
hesitate to e-mail me privately if I can help any more with this.
Paul
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 1997 16:54:29 -0400
From: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net>
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: K H2O Vibe
Message-ID: <33AD9105.18E7ATnospammail.snet.net>
Daniel L. Rusch-Fischer wrote:
> We sleep in a waterbed and she
> made mention of the fact that at times when I have drifted
> off to sleep, vibrations will start to emanate through the
> water that she can feel.
Nice image.
Physical picture of your affect on her.
At night her mind is wide open no less.
She's next.
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 1997 17:45:02 -0400
From: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net>
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: energy/ Lightning:odd experiences
Message-ID: <33AD9CDE.7728ATnospammail.snet.net>
susan carlson wrote:
> he did not reveal the symbols, he did reveal the
> translation of the symbols and what they are for...a little thought
> occurred on the fringes of my subconscious. . .'words are only the
> symbol for energy'. . .as the thought began to dissolve i was brought
> up by a bolt of energy up my back that made me think my head was going
> to pop off.
You negated thought by seeing its' insubstantial
nature. You got a taste of the power of our energy
when we don't bury it with thought.
Your words, "as the thought dissolved..."
Yes, you are right about symbols.
A rose is but a rose by any other name.
Those hungary for symbols might as well eat the menu.
> i was listening to the
> rumblings of an approaching thunderstorm.(they are magnificent here in
> the rockies.) as i lay still a wave of bliss spasmed through my body.
> there was also an almost instantaneous flash of lightning followed by
> an immediate response of thunder. then another spasm of bliss
> followed by the immediate flash of light then the immediate thunderous
> response. this happened several more times. the spasms decreasing in
> frequency the more the storm passed further away. is this just a
> coincidence? will i find myself lying in open fields waiting for a
> passing thunderstorm?
>
Lightning has consciousness.
My experience.
It responds to consciousness.
Several days ago I heard a powerful bolt of lightning.
I said, "Come on and get me!"
Immediately,
another bolt shot 20 feet away from my window.
I said, "Just kidding."
David
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