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kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #282
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 282
Today's Topics: Re: REIKI I and REIKI II
Re: Sky logic testing one two three
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kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com Full Moon Abundance Meditation
Re: Monty blue pearl
Re: Risposta: ? Re: Sky logic
Re: testing one two three Re: Risposta: ?
Sometimes we find a moment Reiki class (was Re: planetary healing and consciousness)
Re: Risposta: ? Re: Sky logic
Re: Risposta: ? Re: Reiki class (was Re: planetary healing and consciousness)
Re: PLANETARY CONSCIOUSNESS Chakra correspondences
Full Moon and Solstice Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 21:47:38 -0400
From: brenda.asterinoATnospamdragonbbs.com (brenda asterino) To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
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Yes, I have to agree.. I and others are also involved in this type of activity. I believe it is part of the quickening.....
Brenda
At 10:25 AM 6/19/97 -0500, you wrote:
> >>I can do and have done Reiki Attunements On Line over the computer.
>>I know this sounds rather different, >
>Not too different. Many people (including me) are doing what's come to be >known as "distant attunements," some online, but not all. It's a simple
>fact that time and distance are illusion, and when you're in healing mode >(Reiki or other methods) that veil of illusion falls away. You're ::here::
>and ::now::. "They" are ::here:: and ::now::. It's the only "place" there >is...
> >Recently, I experienced a distant attunement (which is a lot like shaktipat
>in many ways), and it was by far more powerful than the ones I've had done >in person. I find that distant healings are often more effective, too; not
>sure why. >
> Jeanne > ==-* My stars!
> >
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 18:35:13 -0700 From: J P Flarity
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E Jason wrote:
> > Many people think of spirtuality as requiring a change in one's
> external life. Spirtuality is internal rather than external.
Please tell us what you really think lobster. And what is this internal/external dualism. Show me something that is not myself.
> The need to
> run about like a headless chicken, is an externalisation of this > process.
We all get what we need. Have you ever heard a lobster crow. It is
most amazing. The headless ones are divine.
> The more spiritual an individual becomes, the greater their
> degree of invisibility. They become very normal.
I have seen the normal ones--they are breathing. Hearing the crow of of the ones not breathing takes more practice.
> > Do you think enlightenment and kundalini awakening only occurs to sacred
> Lamas meditating in caves? Grow up.
As always, your capacity for invisibility and incongruity is amazing.
Growing fast,
love,
joe Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 19:46:42
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Two guys walk in to bar.... You'd think the second guy would have seen it...
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Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 22:57:54 -0400 From: David Bozzi
To: Kundalini Subject: stuck
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Crappy job.
Economic stress.
Dead-end stuck.
Stuck in the womb.
Waiting to be born.
Can't go back.
Being pushed forward.
Into a stone wall.
Gonna snap.
Gonna explode.
Seeking resolution.
Wanting to be born.
Opposing forces.
Stalemate.
Get me outta here.
God this sucks.
I can't breathe.
Suffocation.
Is this the end?
Or a fresh beginning.
I want to go Home.
"Hello,
I am your inner voice.
Welcome to your inner process.
Something good will come of this.
I know you find this hard to believe.
But all seasons change.
Let it change.
Now you must Trust at the time
it is most difficult to Trust.
Here is where Trust will lead you
To your Strength.
The powerful force that holds you
Back, is your own Great Power.
I am Synchronicity.
I am here to serve you.
Trust in me and I will not disappoint."
serpent wrote:
> If thre is something you need, She will make it appear attractive > to you beyond any hope of resisting temptation. If you need to know
> something, She will tell you, or lead you to it with effortlessness > and synchronicity while you think you are busy doing something else.
> Stay in the moment, keep your eyes open. Surrender to that which you > love best.
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 20:18:24 +48000 From: Shih-chi Celia Huang
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Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 20:18:41 From: Mystress Angelique Serpent
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com Subject: Full Moon Abundance Meditation
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>Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 14:10:07 -0700 >Reply-To: LightWork-L email list
>Sender: LightWork-L email list >From: Geoffrey Keyte
>Organization: The Mystical Crystal >Subject: Full Moon Abundance Meditation
>To: LIGHTWORK-LATnospamMB.PROTREE.COM >
>Hello, Everyone >
>Georgette and I will be leading the Full Moon Abundance >Meditation this coming Friday, June 20th, at 8pm EDT.
> >We are expecting thousands and thousands of people - worldwide - both on
>and offline - to join us for this very powerful meditation. >
>We ask that you focus your mind and thoughts upon the special quartz >crystal which we will be using for our Abundance Meditation.
> >The meditation for our Full Moon Abundance Meditation is thus:-
> >
>"Take a piece of quartz crystal with which you strongly resonate and go >to a quiet place with no interruptions. There, sit comfortably and begin
>to relax and breath rhythmically; feel the rhythm of your breath as you >move your consciousness inward toward the quiet state without
>interruption of thought. >
>Once there, picture yourself holding your abundance crystal and project >the following thoughts into it; and as you do, know with all your being
>that these thoughts which you have created have a life of their own and >are being absorbed by the crystal. Say affirmatively, "I am happy,
>healthy, wealthy, healed and whole. I am what I will to be and I will to >be (hear restate the specific element of abundance which you seek, such
>as "abundant, or wealthy, etc., etc.") prosperous. >
>As these verbal affirmations enter the crystal, also project into the >crystal a clear, concise, and detailed picture of that which you need as
>if it is already a part of your life. Feel it. See it. Touch it. >Admire it. See yourself sharing it with your friends and loved ones.
>Appreciate it. Appreciate it. Appreciate it. Over and over again. >
>Be very thankful for we have all that we need to have. The harvest is >eternally abundant. It is our doubts and despair that limit the flow of
>this abundant energy. For we are all that which we are and continue to >become eternally. The challenges that we meet are there for us to obtain
>those energies necessary to overcome the challenge and proceed on the >path. Everything is there for us in our own time.
> >Close the meditation by withdrawing from this inner place of peace and
>hold your crystal dear for it now has become activated and energized by >the essence of your positive thoughts for abundance and well-being.
> >And remember to give thanks throughout your waking day for all the
>blessings of abundance (or whatever) that have and continue to come >your way. Open your eyes and fully expect all the desires of your heart
>to be made manifest. >
>Periodically, cleanse this crystal and re-energize using the same >process.
> >You will see how things will change and how life becomes what we
>expect it to be." >
> >Georgette says:-
> >"Please let everyone know that I am guided to invoke the energy of the
>Solstice for this Abundance Ceremony. I lost the name of the person who >first emailed me about it (I've been so busy these days I've been
>deleting emails left and right -- oops), but I've since meditated on this >and have received a resounding "YES" for the energy of the fullness of
>summer will greatly expand the abundance we all share. >
>I'm looking forward to this ceremony, the energy is building >wonderfully."
> >Georgette and I hope you will be able to join in this New Moon Abundance
>Meditation - and help harness the energies of abundance for the good of >your Highest Self and the Higher Selves of everyone who is participating.
> >If you have any further questions please send me a private email,
> >In love, light, peace and harmony
> >Geoffrey
> >
Mystress Angelique Serpent,
Dominant Experiential Facilitator. Website= http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent
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masochists do unto others as they wish to be done unto, they become sadists," the Swami said. "Consequently, the Golden Rule
has been recalled by the Maker until this design flaw can be fixed." ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Vancouver, B.C., Canada. Officially the most beautiful city in the world. Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 00:04:29 -0400 (EDT)
From: LibraKat11ATnospamaol.com To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
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Excuse one who has PMS and is already angry at AOL, but why are you blatantly
advertising? The site you mention is nothing more than an extension of the advertisment here.
<
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Is the post for Baha'i intended to mitigate the above action? Well, it didn't work, I feel very unmitigated.
<for the latest Baha'i News click this:
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Whew, look out for women experiencing PMS! I've just recently started having a problem with this. I'm shocked at my behavior some of the time! Forget
love and light, just let me have my way or get out of my way.
Just don't argue with me, and for God's sake, don't try to placate me!!!!!
Sure I'll regret sending this, but doing so anyway,
'cause I got PMS!!! Love (???)
Kat Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 03:39:30 -0500 (CDT)
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For me, nothing is a better reminder of how timelessy interconnected we are is chanting the mantra 'Om Mani Peme Hung' for long periods with a
clear vision of planet earth in the heart. Also, the fact that the period night time is so very short, as it is dark here soon the sunlight
will shift from Asia across the Pacific to Oregon to Montana to heartland of North America the Midwest...
bye,
nothing is Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 07:54:03 -0400 (EDT)
From: CGIAJWATnospamaol.com To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
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How can anything occure without time?
>From a physicist point of view (not that I am a physicist), I would think
that matter and energy would either completely stop, or fall apart, or nedegate eachother without time to allow momentum, to allow orbiting
electrical waves.
People are throwing around terms like timeless, but does this mean lasting for infinity, or exsisting within zero time, or exsisting outside our
standard definition of time, or something unthinkable by the human conciousness?
Obviously I haven't read the right books, what am I missing?
PS on a side note, I think that if all the positive and electrical impulses (in "matter" and "energy") were lined up and matched, the end result would be
no charge. Is this also an innacurate way to view the electrical charge? Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 09:06:36 -0700
From: E Jason To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
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J P Flarity wrote:
> > Many people think of spirtuality as requiring a change in one's > > external life. Spirtuality is internal rather than external.
> > Please tell us what you really think lobster. And what is this
> internal/external dualism. Show me something that is not myself.
Well my thinking is not your self but your Self is revealed through internal/external dualism
> > The need to > > run about like a headless chicken, is an externalisation of this
> > process. >
> We all get what we need. Have you ever heard a lobster crow. It is > most amazing. The headless ones are divine.
Lobsters are scavengers, they are irrelevant to You. It is you that
invokes their non-existent divinity.
> > The more spiritual an individual becomes, the greater their
> > degree of invisibility. They become very normal. >
> I have seen the normal ones--they are breathing. Hearing the crow of of > the ones not breathing takes more practice.
I never thought you would be stupid enough to be clever.
> > Do you think enlightenment and kundalini awakening only occurs to sacred > > Lamas meditating in caves? Grow up.
> > As always, your capacity for invisibility and incongruity is amazing.
Well said. I am a fraud.
> Growing fast,
Are you becoming more aware? Are you developing more consideration? Are you simplfying your self? Growing?
MUCH LOVE Lobster
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 00:52:01 -0400 From: imtgATnospamjuno.com (tg xxx)
To: mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
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>Two guys walk in to bar....
> You'd think the second guy would have seen it...
hey it took me a couple of minutes (blonde here), but i pondered - i contemplated - i meditated - and by golly i finally got it! ROFL
xxxtg
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> Test..delete >
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Time is a funny thing. I don't bother wearing a watch anymore.
Trying to break the habit of being concerned with time. Right now is the time to write.
Each moment is a little minuscule micro mini second that exists.
After that it doesn't exist, it has past.
Maybe that is why we use the term "synchronicity" so much. Because in reality everything is synchronistic. Happening at the same time. In "time".
Like a marching band in step.
Those last steps you took didn't happen because of time. They happened because of action.
Time may be an illusion, maybe not. But to worry or look for it is not the
answer. Look in the now.
At 07:54 AM 6/20/97 -0400, you wrote: >How can anything occure without time?
> >>From a physicist point of view (not that I am a physicist), I would think
>that matter and energy would either completely stop, or fall apart, or >nedegate eachother without time to allow momentum, to allow orbiting
>electrical waves.
Certainly the atoms and electrons and protons don't care about time. Only about their attractiveness and opposition. Pull and play. Ebb and flow.
Time doesn't carry them anywhere. Everything has motion holding everything together.
> >People are throwing around terms like timeless, but does this mean lasting
>for infinity, or exsisting within zero time, or exsisting outside our >standard definition of time, or something unthinkable by the human
>conciousness? >
>Obviously I haven't read the right books, what am I missing? >
Some zen philosophy states that if you can live in the moment it will be your eternity. Each moment is all that exists and so it is timeless.
You are not missing anything. But when the searching stops, you will find the answer.
Peace, Love, and Light
Eternally yours, Blue pearl card carrying member.
John Halonen Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 10:47:33 -0400
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Sometimes we find a moment.
In a storm of rage I found myself. And became like the quiet sea.
Teardrops formed crystals to last a lifetime. In each tear was my life.
Full of joy. Laughing and crying. Holding onto everything, for it was a part of me.
Now everything exists in tears, Afraid to be alone, I let it go.
Only to find I am one with all. And that love has not dissolved,
But blossomed everywhere. My heart has opened and lives in eternity.
Peace,
John HalonenDate: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 09:27:51 PDT From: "Joseph Miller"
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Lissette wrote: >
> .... I am planning to take a Reiki 1 class on the weekend, with a >lady from Argentina that was recommended by a friend of mine that at
>the same time she does not know her,. was recommended by her best >friend. THis course is $150.00 is 2 days long and she gives it in her
>house. How would I know if this if legit. or not, should I be asking >her something specific,I dont know much about Reiki, only that I >would
like to do it....
Lissette,
I don't know this person so I can't give any feed back on her but my Reiki 1 class was two days, would have been at the instructor's house
but she had the use of her church for free (Saturday and after 1:00PM Sunday), and cost about $125.00 (several years ago). So it doesn't sound
out of line. I live near Knoxville Tn. if that helps give any guage about relative costs and fees.
Reiki is a valid system and does work. I believe it can be helpful to
practrice it at certain points in one's process (no teacher comment yes or no on that statement). At other points it can be harmful (strong
teacher comment on that point), at least in the sense you will be taking energy away from process and putting it into the Reiki. It also
would feed into the dangers of anyone at throat and should not be done if your process is at that point. That is not what you'll be told in the
Reiki class but it is the case none the less.
My judgement is if you're K is below the heart, and there are no dangerous complications already in your process, Reiki will probably
help. If you are above heart it will be less valuable to your process and may hurt things. But all that will vary from individual to
individual.
When doing any type of body work, massage, Reiki, etc. you first put on some hand lotion. It is supposed to lower the liklihood of backflow of
bad energies (a subtle energy condom). Also consider doing a "flush" after treating people. Done by treating a tree or a drain pipe.
Beyond that, pay attention to what you feel and any changes in your
process and enjoy the experience.
Namaste,
Joe
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Date: Fri, 20 Jun 97 16:53:26 GMT From: cen06681ATnospamcenturyinter.net
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com Subject: Re: Risposta: ?
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Two monks were arguing about the temple flag waving in the wind. One said" The flag moves". The other said," The wind moves". They argued back and forth, but
could not agree. Hui-neng, the sixth patriarch said:"Gentlemen! It is not the flag that moves. It is not the wind that moves. It is your mind that moves."
The two monks were struck with awe. - Exerpt from the little Zen calander????? Date: Fri, 20 Jun 97 16:56:37 GMT
From: cen06681ATnospamcenturyinter.net To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
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Lobster
My face is white with honor! Lindewey
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 97 17:13:09 GMT From: cen06681ATnospamcenturyinter.net
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The whole of universal manifestation within this manvantara is based upon imbalance and imperfection, and the endless mission to put back together what
the first great sin of seperation has split assunder. Time and space are merely the perceptual artifacts of what first consciousness thinks it percieves. The
reason they seem to change is because perception changes. All that exists is consciousness, within and without every atom of imperfect creation. When does
an event really begin? Is it the product of all of the factors leading up to its supposed existance, or the static momentary mental snapshot that freezes it
in our minds, or the fond or not so fond memories, that change it according to our internal reflecting pool?How can time exist as a static thing, based upon a
creation who only seems to us to be manifest,and by which we can soley measure & deliniate that manifestation through its changability, and transitional
nature? Whether the particle or the wave, the true function of existance has still
a deeper motivater than either, that being thought. The thought of who or what? About this question , nothing can really be said, and still be accurate.
However, what concerns me is, if it is the thought of God which has manifest the universe and every conscious atom and life within it, and we all depend for
our very existance on that eternal stream of thought , constantly nourishing and supporting our manifestation to which ( for some strange reason) we are
profoundly attached to , What happens if she changes her mind? Lindewey
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 97 17:22:41 GMT From: cen06681ATnospamcenturyinter.net
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com Subject: Re: Reiki class (was Re: planetary healing and consciousness)
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Has anyone ever heard of Rev. David Jarrell, and his method of Dr. Isui's transmission of Reiki healing initiation, which used to be priced in the
thousands of dollars? Lindewey mcnerneytlATnospamcenturyinter.net
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 10:28:04 PDT From: "Joseph Miller"
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, yogi.tomATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk Subject: Re: PLANETARY CONSCIOUSNESS
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>
>WHY NOT START ON SATURDAY - IT'S THE SUMMER SOLSTICE IN BRITAIN >
>I'LL BE ON TOP OF PRIMROSE HILL IN CAMDEN, NORTH LONDON AT MIDDAY >(BRITISH SUMMERTIME) LOOKING OUT ACROSS THE CITY TO THE WEST
> >IT'S ON THE ST MICHAEL LEYLINE HEADING TOWARDS GLASTONBURY AND
>STONEHENGE AND AVEBURY.....
>i am still trying to work out how the British solstice compares with >other parts of the world...do we all have solstices on the same day ?
Tom,
I believe the solstice is a time, a moment, just like a full moon. It is
the time the sun "crosses the equator". If I'm correct it is best expressed in GMT or if you would like to be more PC, Standard Universal
Time. That time will be the same around the world.
For example today, Friday, is the full moon. Because the full moon has a major impact on my meditation sessions and my K process I note them a
year ahead in my day planner. It will be at 19:10 GMT or 7:10 PM there in England (8:10 if you're on daylight savings time). Here in the
eastern time zone of the US it'll be 3:10 PM (EDT). Since India is 10 hours and 30 minutes ahead of the eastern US (on Standard time) it will
happen there on Saturday by their clocks. You can't trust calendars on this because some use the day as defined by GMT and note that as the
time other convert to local (national) time, and none tells you which it has used when it labeled the dates as "full moon" or whatever.
Now after the buildup...I have no idea what the moment of the solstice
is, so I'll vote for Saturday because it is a day off from work and I'll have more time.
As it turns out I'll be walking a full scale reproduction of the Chartes
Labyrinth here in the morning, so I'll be in a meditative mood already. The Labyrinth walk will be special because it will be held on the
Solstice, the only day people are allowed to walk the real Labyrinth at Chartes itself. If any list readers are in the East Tennessee area and
are interested it'll be in Oak Ridge at St. Mary's Catholic Church on Saturday and Knoxville on Sunday at the local Cathedral both start at
1:00 PM.
After I finish there I'll go home and go to my puja area and sit.
Namaste,
Joe
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From: "Jennie L" To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
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hello, I was wondering if anyone could tell me the planetary correspondences for the chakras. I have found information on the herbs,
gems, foods, etc. and am having difficulty finding information on the planetary influences. Also if anyone knows of any information on Asana
or how to Assume Egyptian godforms it would be greatly appreciated. The info I have is sketchy at best. Also : I wish to thank Lobster for his
reply to my last question about the correspondences between the Kundalini, chakras and the Tree of Life. Thankyou for your time
Sincerely, Sekhmet
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Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 12:34:32 -0700 (PDT) From: ori^
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com Subject: Full Moon and Solstice
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Hi all,
Rather remarkable the Full Moon and the Solstice and a Friday night all coincide this year.
Any pagan (or non-pagan) rituals planned?
Anyone know the sign the moon is in?
>From a web search it seems the time of the
full moon is 19:09 Universal Time (which I think translates to 15:09 EDT and 12:09 PDT)
and the Solstice greets us at 1:20 a.m. PDT
I appreciate the awareness provided by the internet of our
Southern Hemisphere friends greeting the Winter.
In light, ori^
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