1997/06/19 07:21-kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #280

1997/06/19 07:21
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #280

kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 280

Today's Topics:
  Re: Sky diving
  a question from the Website:
  Mail problems.
  The key to the unified field.
  Integrating some new information (long)
    Kundalini Superfoods!!
  Re: Sky diving
  Monty
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 97 06:07:10 GMT
From: cen06681ATnospamcenturyinter.net
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Sky diving
Message-Id: <M.061997.010710.92ATnospamcenturyinter.net>

Dear Lobster
As of late, it seems less important for me to find out what I am,
and most important simply to know that I Am!
Fondly Lindewey mcnerneytlATnospamcenturyinter.net
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 23:41:57 +0000
From: "serpent" <serpentATnospamwww.iceonline.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: a question from the Website:
Message-Id: <199706182339.QAA04408ATnospamwww.iceonline.com>

Message forwarded to me from Richard Satin, a question from the K.
list Website. Please resond to ristarrATnospamwebtv.net:

List Mystress.
>=========== BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE ===========
>
>On 06/16/97, at 09:47 PM, ristarrATnospamwebtv.net wrote:
>
>>WHAT IS THE DOWNWARD ENERGY THAT COMES THROUGH THE CROWN CHAKRA MY
>>UPWARD ENERGY SEEMS TO BE LOCKED AT TE HEART CHAKRA ANDA
>>DISCOLORATION HAS APPEARED ON THE BACK OF MY SPINE AT THE LEVEL
>>OF MY DIAPHRAM.
>>
>> STEVEN
>>
>>

>
>=========== END FORWARDED MESSAGE ===========

    If you need more info, feel free to write to me at
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Love and electric blue K. fire, List Mystress.
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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 23:41:57 +0000
From: "serpent" <serpentATnospamwww.iceonline.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Mail problems.
Message-Id: <199706182339.QAA04405ATnospamwww.iceonline.com>

  The K.list computer has been temporarily insane, please send it
some L&L. I have discovered that many posts meant to be posted on the
list have only been sent to me, includng all of my posts lately.
  If you are having posting problems also, please contact me. I am
attempting to diagnose the problem, excepc. says all is well.
  I had a fit about people off list spamming a few weeks ago, and
intended to reprogram the computer configuration, so as not to accept
off list posts but never did... unless by telekinesis in my sleep...
that would be something new...
    I am sending mail by the program I use to communicate with the
computer, so things will hopefully get through, but forwarded posts
will have my name in the From field and "Forwarded from" in the
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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 23:53:56 +0000
From: "serpent" <serpentATnospamwww.iceonline.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: The key to the unified field.
Message-Id: <199706182351.QAA04520ATnospamwww.iceonline.com>

Geoffrey Keyte, who runs the Crystals list sent this sentiment
out, and I thought I'd pass it on. Blessings, L.M.

>Return-Path: <owner-lightwork-lATnospamMB.PROTREE.COM>
>Subject: Be An Active Member
>To: LIGHTWORK-LATnospamMB.PROTREE.COM
>
>THOUGHT FOR THE WEEK
>
>
>Be an active member,
>the kind that would be missed.
>Don't be just contented,
>that your name is on the list!
>
>Do read all the postings
>and mingle with the crowd.
>Don't stay at home
>and whine both long and loud!
>
>Don't leave the work for just a few
>And moan about the clique,
>And take time out to write to members who are sick.
>
>There are always programs scheduled,
>that means success if done.
>And they can easily be accomplished,
>with the help of everyone.
>
>So read the postings regularly.
>and help with hand and heart.
>Be an active member,
>and take an active part.
>
>Consider the above words carefully,
>are we right or are we wrong,
>Be an active member,
>please don't just belong!
>
>All kind regards
>
>Geoffrey
>
*******
...all of the lists are pretty quiet,
  .....except crystals which is kinda chatty.
  Feel the gathering energy?
  The quiet building before the cleansing storm?
  Full moon and solstice come together this year.
  Full moon night of the 20th, solstice 8 am.ish on the 21st.
  Friday night into Saturday Morning,
  plan to spend in meditation and ritual.
  Let Goddess K. have her way with you...

  Here is some information that came through tonight:
  "that's the way it is with love energy.
   The more it's shared, the more there is to share."

and

"The key to the unified field theroy will be
the one universal energy that does not follow rules of physics.
The limitlessly expanding energy that shapes all things.
Love."

  I think it has been kicking around in my head for a while.
  Is that the "Lake"?
  The full moon, reflecting on the lake pulls it into ripples.
Blessings, Angel'indigo.

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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 23:53:56 +0000
From: "serpent" <serpentATnospamwww.iceonline.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Integrating some new information (long)
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Hello, Beloved Kundalites:

  I consider myself in many ways uneducated about the mysticism of K.,
  having experienced it for a long time before ever recognizing that
  that is what it is. Sometimes I even still get the genders of Shiva
and Shakti mixed up, names that end in an "A" seem feminine to me,
sorry, Shiva Dude. So if anyone is under the impression List
Mystress Angelique has the role because she is the bestest expert...
think again!
     I have read more and various spiritual texts that I can
shake a stick at, but mostly they were of the pulp new age, fantasy,
esp, occult, personal development, brain science stripe. Culturally
foreign (to my Calgary Stampede redneck wasp upbringing) eastern
paths and fundamental Kabballa Gnostic type stuff has always seemed
too starchly academic to hold my attention.
  "Illusions", or "the Celestine Prophecies" is more likely to hold
my interest than something by Krishnamuri. Alice in Wonderland
not Alice Bailey. I looked at many "paths" that religious forms
presented, but when the inner voice disagreed too many times
with the beliefs I was expected to accept as a "follower", I dumped
the paths as "not good enough", while keeping the elements of them
that resonated. To mine own Higher Self be true...
  Castaneda I found had interesting stories, but was too paranoid for
my taste.

  But I seek the reflections and impressions of this gathering
  of wise souls, of my recent discoveries. We see ourselves in the
  mirror that others manifest.

In the past few weeks I have been integrating some new information
that makes me pace around shaking my head in astonishment and wonder
every time I think about it. Puzzle pieces of my life settling into
place to make a very different picture than previously.

I thought my K. Awakening happened in 1990. I was mistaken.
It happened when I was twelve years old.
This piece of information was a lot to take in... whoa.

   The key to this puzzle was two pieces of information that came up
   on the list synchronistically for me. The description of
   "spiritual winter" caused by shutting down K. after it has been
   awakened was something I had experienced years before what I
   thought was my K. A. in 1990.
  Wot?
  I have also, for a long time had a knack for doing informal,
  intuitive counselling. People have come to me for advice since high
  school, and the inner voice would guide me in what to tell them.
  I have been using the inner voice, teaching the grounding
  excercise since before my supposed K.A. too, and watching after how
  folks lives would get a good shaking out as they used the
  information to empower themselves to settle some issues. Their
  entire lives would gradually change, and I noticed this effect I
  seemed to have on people with some pleasure, congratulated myself on
  being a Good witch, and carried on... After being on this list for
  all this time I get it that the effects I was watching in these
  people was the effects of gently awakened K.

  Wot?
  So I also get it that if one has the effect of awakening K. in
  others, (by whatever mysterious mechanism by which Goddess effects
  such a thing...) then one is called a Shaktipat Master. The other
  information I have gathered is that it takes a certain period of
  evolution after K. A. to become contagious. Is this correct, O
  scholars of the East?

  That is where my brain scrambled, because I was doing what I have
  discovered was K. A. before the late Fall, 1990. How can someone not
  awakened be a shaktipat Master? Mystress? Wot?

<TILT!!
Program crashed... hit reset to continue.
All unsaved conclusions will be deleted.>
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  Thus I have been kind of quiet on the list lately... processing some
  astonishing information. What I thought was K.A. in 1990 must have
  been a chakra opening.
  Also, the List Computer has been temorarily insane, and has not
been posting any of my emails, mostly emails about how the list
computer has temporarily gone insane. Send it some L&L, please.
  If you are having trouble posting also, let me know.

  I have been contemplating when I was awakened, if it was not the
  opening seven years ago..? ... and what comes is reading Jonathan
Livingston Seagull in Grade 6, getting my little catholic
schoolgirl mind blown wide open with joy by the discovery of
Spirituality truly focused on love and not connected to concepts of
sin and jesus.. and experimenting with self-hypnosis. Age 12.
Chronicles of Narnia. "The Last Battle" was my favourite. The end
times of Narnia.
   I kept on finding and reading odd books, from
science fiction fantasy magic (Ursula Le Guin's "Wizard of Earthsea"
trilogy, Patricia A. MacKillip's "The Riddle Master of Hed" Trilogy)
to Dracula and Sherlock Holmes. As a teenager, I
focused only on golden sunshine coming down onto the top of my head,
filling my body and spreading outward to full the oval of my aura.
One day in church at my parents insistence, (I was 15?) doing an
aura meditation and spreading light through the place instead of
listening to mass, it turned White. Another day in meditation, it
turned into a heat shimmer, strong but invisible. I got confirmation
from my sister-in-law who could see auras.
   In high school, after learning telepathy from the only person in
the school who was more socially inept than myself, I went on an ESP
research rampage and discovered I could do just about every psychic
thing I read about in books, with the exception of telekinesis and
astral travel. With my basis in hypnosis, I tended to aviod anything
that required tools or rituals. "Illusions, The Adventures of a
reluctant Messiah" by Richard Bach finally came out in paperback,
so I returned my waaaaay overdue library copy and carried the
paperback one aroung in my purse for years.

We studied alternate spirituality in high school, mysticism and
buddhism was an option I worked on for a few weeks. I noticed that I
had had some "mystical" experiences like they described, and spoke
the teacher who led the class about it privately. I ended up
enlightening him about self centered motivation and why Mother
Theresa cares for lepers. He said that's why he loved to teach, the
lessons the students taught him. I remember him with warmth. He did
not have the answers I sought. The directions he suggested searching
in seemed to me to be unlikely to be receptive to a teenaged
feminist punk rocker.

Since enlightenment was presented as one in
billions, a lifetimes effort of dedication and meditation, I
shrugged and figured I must be mistaken. The idea of telling folks
in my life that I was destined to become like Christ or Buddah made
me laugh, and I dismissed the idea. All my life folks had told me
how weird they thought I was, usually as a negative judgement. I
could never understand what they meant. I tried to be "normal: I was
normal to me. I was pretty tired of it, then. Now I've mostly
surrendered to it: oddness as a lifestyle choice. Welcome to the
Circus.

  I took a yoga option in high school, too. We learned the Sun
Salutation that Dan R-F posted last week. I remember the first time
we did it one of the two phys-ed instructors explained it's history
as a sun greeting to begin the day. I did not realize there were
mantras also till the post. Never used mantras much... tho reading
these ones made me vibrate.... Each yoga class ended with a
different guided meditation that was very interesting. New hypnotic
induction techniques.
  I squashed my magic gradually at 18. My beloved didn't like his
  friends making fun of him because his girlfriend said she was
  psychic.. so when I would seek confirmation of my intuitive
  impressions he would lie. This undermined my faith in my abilities.
I began to doubt the inner voice.
     I abruptly abandoned a lifelong plan to attend 4 years of art
college in favour of a 10 month hairstyling course and an income.
Spiritual winter followed... no magic anywhere, only a confused
isolated feeling and wondering where it all went...a cold lonely
place all on my own... I remember it well.

It is nice to finally understand what the weird blank spot was
after all this time. I have been pondering exactly how long that
period lasted. I think it was about five years, before the magic
started to gradually come back into my life... some psychic ability,
and dreams.... So if the formula for spiritual winter is = to time
awakened, I guess I really was awakened around age 12. Confirmation?
This kind of blows my mind. My whole life's perspective shifts,
again...

  I keep on shaking my head and thinking of those teenage years... so
  chaotic. I am sending so much love back through time for the child I
  was.. I remember writing an essay to myself when I was twelve about
  how much I was NOT looking forward to becoming a teenager, railing
  against time, a dark foreboding weighing heavy on my mind. I knew it
  was a very odd thing to write, everyone else seemed anxious to grow
  up.
     My home and school life was so dysfunctional already that I had
  taken to escaping into books in Grade 2. I discovered reading to be
  a teacher-approved alternative to daydreaming, so long as I did not
  read ahead in the textbooks and get way ahead of the class. That was
  punishable, I discovered.
   I knew the inevitable storms of adolescence would not improve the
   situation.

    What's funny, is when people complained of "strange pains" when I
    was growing up, and later, I was always a little surprised,
    because I always thought having odd unexplained pains and
    sensations in one's body was normal!
   I didn't know that goosebump thrills and rushes up my spine was not
   normal, not part of puberty, not ordinary. Aches in my bones, weird
   twinges in my body... I thought everybody got them. Not worth
   mentioning. We didn't talk about sex or puberty symptoms at my
   house...

     I have accepted years ago that the chaos and dysfunction
   of my upbringing had charachter shaping lessons essential for the
   manifestation of my present state of being, events I arranged
   before my birth. This is a normal part of maturity, IMHO.
      Discovering that appearance of chaos and dysfunction was
actually the wheels of Kundalini awakening in process is another
thing entirely. I keep shaking my head automatically when I think
about it. This wierd kriya is not a gesture of denial. When I do it
I get the sound effect internally that is peculair to the sound Wile
E. Coyote makes when he shakes his head back into it's proper shape
  after it has been abruptly reshaped by events of his career, such as
  an anvil falling on it. Not like the accordion sound when he has
  been flattened entirely. It is more like the sound accompanying
  Samantha the Witch's nose twitch from "Bewitched", but lower
pitched ....and related to a double take like if Gilligan spotted
Ginger naked.
   Well, what do you expect from someone awakened as a child
who's Guru was Television? :)

  As I usually find with integration in process, I keep going back and
  forth from two extreme polarities. On one hand I keep feeling deep
  compassion and sympathy for the child I was.. self pity. My
childhood had been rough enough with ordinary events, but the
realization that that I was dealing with the early years of KA
intensity all alone and unrecognized at the same time makes me
really pity that poor child!! Ye Gods! No wonder I had such a
difficult time. Poor younger Me!!!
    I wonder that I survived it, and that sweeps me off to the other
polarity, the knowledge that all the time the hard stuff was
happening, I was actually completely safe in the arms of Goddess. K.
She protects her own. We are never given anything we cannot cope
with. Even as a child, I knew I would somehow survive it all and be
stronger for it... This takes me soaring from self pity to awe and
astonishment, wild joy over the hard events of my life that are
given an amazing new meaning in the processes they served. Lessons,
yes, but also considerable evolution in those intense years. "The
peace that passeth understanding" comes to mind. Waves of deep
bliss.

  I bless my parents. They did their best. They both grew up on
  farms during the depression. Repressed strict German Grandparents
I never met on Mom's side and English military on the Dad's. My Dad
got his first hugs from his Mother when she was 90. The Grandchildren
started it. We all decided our Geranny was going to get some hugs
before she died, and she had little mind left to resist it anymore.
    Unfortunately, my parent's "best" would get them arrested
for child abuse by today's standards. They know this, and have said
they would do things differently if they were to be done again. There
are no schools on how to be a parent. I wish they can forgive
themselves and release their regrets. Grow old happy.

Five bright kids competing for their attention in ways that
sometimes resembled all-out war, and way too little cash or career
fulfillment, and relatives that sometimes acted much like the
kids... I was fourth, my Mom was nearly forty when she had me, a
week late and backwards. She went through menopause when I went
through puberty, because of a radical hysterectomy. So much
conflict. They were overwhelmed, and I harbour no anger. My
experience of school mirrored the chaos of my home life. Ostracism
and casual violence. Since I was of the opinion that my parents were
obviously past coping with their own problems, I didn't burden them
with mine as well.

So many symptoms came and went and I never mentioned them to
anyone. Recently a post on hypersensitive hearing reminded me of an
unexplained event from age 15?. My hearing got gradually more and
more sensitive until finally a whisper would resonate painfully at
times, and finally I gave in to it and badgered my Mom into letting
me see a Doc. We went, and he found nothing. His diagnosis" unknown
irritation, soothe it with this brand of warm oil drops." Mom's
diagnosis "kids complain too much and doctors are a waste of time. "
It went away after a while. It has been coming back a bit lately.

    What I am trying to say, the point of this enormous
autobiographical post, is that if you are awakened then you are
totally safe in the arms of Goddess Kundalini, relax and enjoy the
ride. If I could survive the first years of KA, and puberty and
everything else, and not even know until now that that's what it
was...you have naught to worry. Goddess takes care of her own. You
don't need to buy every book in the stores, synchronicity will
provide everything you need to know, as you need it.
   If thre is something you need, She will make it appear attractive
to you beyond any hope of resisting temptation. If you need to know
something, She will tell you, or lead you to it with effortlessness
and synchronicity while you think you are busy doing something else.
Stay in the moment, keep your eyes open. Surrender to that which you
love best.
     Blessings, Angelique.
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 00:00:33 +0000
From: "serpent" <serpentATnospamwww.iceonline.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Kundalini Superfoods!!
Message-Id: <199706182358.QAA04564ATnospamwww.iceonline.com>

  Kundalini Superfoods!!
  When a similiar thread sprang up many moons ago, some folks were
  supercharging their meditations with a tablespoon of flax seed oil
  an hour or three before meditating. Try it! Flax seed oil capsules
  are easy to find in any health food store, and not so expensive.
  They seem to smooth out all the little rashes and illnesses of K.

I take 7 to 9 flaxseed oil capsules daily for my exczema, (I forget
about every third day...) and because I am a light smoker, and it
prevents lung cancer. I have also not had a single cold or flu since
I started taking it, 2 years ago, and my seasonal allergies have
almost disappeared. I think it also helps my exczema by calming my
nerves, seed oils are rich in b. complex vitamins, important for
stress. It is way more effective than all the varieties of
cortesone(steroid) that all the whacko dermatology specialists
prescribed, over the years. K. friendly? It promotes electrical
conductivity in the body, which is reduced by the north american diet
of overheated oils and margarine. I have an excellent book, which
I've lent to my neighbor: Flax seed oil and it's effect on arthritis,
cancer and..heart disease? I'll get it back from her, and post the
info. It's by a German Doctor/Researcher who was on the board of
health in Germany in the 50's that debated whether to allow
artificially hardened fats, and oils that had been preserved by
heating onto grocery shelves. Her vote: No! They passed anyway.
I think her name is Dr. Johanna Blundell, but I'm not sure.
Her research is pretty interesting-rats fed margarine or peanut
butter with oil added became sterile...she found that these fats
cannot be processed by the body, and so they are stored, as a coating
around the cells which reduces the elecrical conductivity of the
cells, so they get mixed messages from the nerves. Cellulite, is hard
to get rid of because it is a storage place for these toxic fats,
which the body cannot release until some cleansing has taken place.
Flax seed oil can fasten onto these fats and change their
composition, so the body can process them. It is also a powerful
antioxidant. Pack-a-day rats fed flax seed oil didn't get lung
cancer. Students given Flax seed oil didn't catch colds or viruses.
She was taking terminal cancer patients out of hospitals, and
effecting remarkable cures feeding fresh flax seed oil mixed with
quark cheese. Makes a very nice butter substitute. The oil binds to
the calcium in the cheese, and so both are made more effective.
Tastier, too. Mix with balsamic vinegar and a touch of maple syrup
for a nutty salad dressing.

It is a very electrically active and volatile oil, best fresh and raw.
*****Do not cook with it!*****
Boiled flax seed oil is linseed oil-paint thinner poison.
Unless processed into capsules, it must be kept refrigerated.
Some folks assure freshness by grinding a few oz. of flax seed in the
coffee grinder and sprinkling it on salads and cold cereal. I'll
stick to the capsules...

The only oil which is higher than Flax in essential fatty acids, is
hemp seed. Cannabis. The most perfect food for humans, alas the sacred
herb is persecuted in this country.
I've always been pretty psychic anyway, so I haven't noticed if
taking flax increases my sensitivity. On the other hand, the 2 1/2
years I've been taking it have been a time of amazing growth.

  The other amazing stuff I use is bee propolis, tree resin harvested
  by bees, and used to make the hive a sterile environment.
  Hippocrates prescribed it for ulcers.. it is antiviral,
  antibacterial, and hostile to most fungi. It has an amazing healing
  effect on the respiratory system, and is possibly a cure for the
  common cold. Clears sinus and sore throat in minutes. If I am going
  to be doing a lot of singing I stick a piece on the roof of my mouth
  to dissolve slowly. Propolis is the reason beekeepers live so
  long... they tend to eat the messy honey that is full of honeycomb,
  and end up eating lots of propolis. I get it from a friend who is a
  beekeeper. He uses bee stings to medicate his arthritis... I
  dissolve it in alcohol and use it on cuts and scrapes. The alcohol
  evaporates and leaves an antibacterial "skin" of tree sap over the
  wound, which prevents infection and heals at lightspeed.. I think in
  this age of antibiotic -proof bacteria, we will see a resurgence of
  popularity for propolis. Some folks are allergic, tho...especially
  those with tree allergies.
Well that's my bit. Ta for now.
    Blessings in big brown capsules, Angelique.

At 21:00 30/05/97 -0700, Morgana Wyze wrote:
><...> This is tied
>to kundalini because a food that feeds prana would be way cool.
>Comments, anyone?
>Morgana (Crusader for conscientious consumption)
>

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Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 08:41:06 -0700
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
CC: jan.watsonATnospamsympatico.ca
Subject: Re: Sky diving
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cen06681ATnospamcenturyinter.net wrote:
>
> Dear Lobster
> As of late, it seems less important for me to find out what I am,
> and most important simply to know that I Am!
> Fondly Lindewey mcnerneytlATnospamcenturyinter.net

I AM is one of the attributes of God.
In creating the world the Goddess is given the chance to reflect on her
own Beauty and Wonder - through our appreciation of her.

Most Kind Regards
Peace
Lobster
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 10:28:02 -0700
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Monty
Message-ID: <33A96C22.5E36ATnospamdial.pipex.com>

This is starting to sound more and more like a Monty Python routine with
each new posting, Abbot & Costello, or Borscht Belt Metaphysical
Standups:

What's infinity?
The unmanifest
No, that's the hidden
Well, what's ultimate reality?
No,what's everywhere
So, what's everywhere?
love
What's love got to do with it?
Love is hidden
Where?
Everywhere
Why can't I see it
Love is not physical
Hey, you sound just like my wife!
(rim shot)

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1997/06/19 07:21 kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #280

1997/06/19 07:21
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #280