1997/06/03 04:54
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #262
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 262
Today's Topics:
Teeths and spines....
Statements from Future Meteorologists (fwd)
Re: <<<<<Shaktipat - its not just for breakfast anymore!
rainbows
Re: computer interference
Re: <<<<<Obsidian speaks
Re: Teeths and spines....
Re: Teeths and spines....
Re: Teeths and spines....
Re: <<<<<Whachamacallit
Re: <<<<<Shaktipat - its not just for breakfast anymore!
Re: prana/tail bone/crooked spine/books
Re: computer interference
my aura story
Poem
Re: computer interference
Do not think of an elephant
Toothless and spineless
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 13:44:28 -0400 (EDT)
From: Nancy Kar <nkarATnospamfreenet.npiec.on.ca>
To: John Halonen <halonenjATnospamix.netcom.com>
cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Teeths and spines....
Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.96.970602133617.52428A-100000ATnospamNiagaraNet.npiec.on.ca>
I love this list and have been trying to keep up but been really busy in
RL lately:) I've wanted to say for the record that I have had 3 major
tailbone injuries. Twice I fell on my tailbone causing me to lose
conciousness. It's a horrible shock to the system. the first time when I
was in grade 4.. I passed out for
about 3 mins. Second time as a teenager not sure how long.
I've had the same reoccuring dream about teeth falling out. I'm not sure
why...
Also along related lines is about having bubblegum in my mouth and
not being able to speak or breath because of it.... and panicking.
I was watching a TV show the one day about women in abusive situations.
They started to talk about the dreams that they had and the bubblegum
dream was a very common onw for most of the panel on TV. I was in the same
situation as these women at that time, too. :)
peace :)
Nancy
On Mon, 2 Jun 1997, John Halonen wrote:
> I've had this dream several times a while back.
> All my teeth would fall out into the sink.
> I know it had a deeper meaning, but I can tell you I brush regularly now. :)
>
> Peace and light
> John Halonen
>
* " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " *
Looking through Lightworking eyes,
Living through a Loveworking heart.
'Keep your face to the sunshine and you will not see the shadows' -H. Keller
In lak'ech Nancy...WaterFall in spirit nkarATnospamfreenet.npiec.on.ca
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 16:24:25 -0500 (CDT)
From: Amy Wilder <awilderATnospammail.coin.missouri.edu>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Statements from Future Meteorologists (fwd)
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.970602162249.8579A-100000ATnospamcoinc0>
My brother-in-law sent this to me and I thought someone would enjoy it :)
So, enjoy.. (tho I'm not sure it has much to do with kundalini directly..)
amy
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Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 09:18:08 -0500
From: McClurkin <mcclurkiATnospamswbell.net>
To: Tim Wilder <tim.wilderATnospamnashville.com>, mcclmATnospamworldnet.att.net,
gwilderATnospammail.coin.missouri.edu, hundleyATnospamtenet.edu,
dwilderATnospammail.coin.missouri.edu, tonymoATnospamapci.net,
Amy Wilder <awilderATnospammail.coin.missouri.edu>
Subject: Statements from Future Meteorologists
Most were from 5th and 6th graders.
- The law of gravity says no fair jumping up without coming back down.
- Clouds are high flying fogs.
- I am not sure how clouds get formed. But the clouds know how to do
it, and that is the important thing.
- Water vapor gets together in a cloud. When it is big enough to be
called a drop, it does.
- Humidity is the experience of looking for air and finding water.
- Rain is often known as soft water, oppositely known as hail.
- Rain is saved up in cloud banks.
- A blizzard is when it snows sideways.
- A hurricane is a breeze of a bigly size.
- Isotherms and isobars are even more important than their names
sound.
And our favorite...
- Rainbows are just to look at, not to really understand.
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 14:56:02 -0700
From: "Daniel L. Rusch-Fischer" <stampmanATnospamix.netcom.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: <<<<<Shaktipat - its not just for breakfast anymore!
Message-ID: <33934172.510CATnospamix.netcom.com>
Melissa Shubha Smith wrote:
>
> Yes, Dan, ... you base your ... knowledge of Siddha Yoga Awakening on a ... letter > posted to the k ... list about Muktananda and Chidvilasananda. ... this letter was > unsigned and ... by someone ... going thru hell ... playing a point and blame game.
> ... it makes me wonder that someone would even give them any credance
>
Wow Melissa & Lissette,
Obviously Muktananda and his successor have been of enormous benefit to
you both. I regret that you have taken offense at my use of Baba M. as
an example; I could as easily have used Yogi Amrit Desai, Swami Rama,
Sogyal Rimpoche or any of the other teachers who have been accused of
sexual improprieties.
As you have eloquently stated, the veracity of the charges have nothing
to do with whether you have derived value from his teachings (oddly
enough, that is exactly what I meant when I explained the fallacious
logical argument 'ad hominem abusive').
However, there was more than an unsigned letter by one disgruntled
person behind the accusations. Lis Harris in the Nov. 14, 1994 New
Yorker goes into extensive detail and bases the article on over 100
interviews with former members of Baba Muktananda's Siddha Yoga
organization SYDA.
William Rodarmor wrote an extensive article about the impropriety
charges based on 25 interviews with female members who claimed sexual
contact with Baba M. in the CoEvolution Quarterly (which independantly
verified the interviews before publishing the article).
Swami Abhayananda has an extensive open letter on the net in which he
denounces Baba M.'s sexual improprieties based on his own interviews
with members. Swami A. was a prominent member for many years of SYDA
until this incident.
> >
> >I don't think you are as "knowledgable and such an expert ... etc.
> >... as you porport to be. This relationship can be ... if you were truly awakened
> >... you would see "god" in ... crowds ... what kinda awakening is this Dan?
> >
Please let me disabuse of you any misconception that I have the
slightest pretensions to knowledge or expertise. I repeatedly ask for
definitions, explanations, and constantly misuse terms and unabashedly
state that I have NO expertise, training, study, or background; that I
recognize and respect the effort and study made by the more erudite on
the list. Rather I constantly state that I am expressing an 'opinion'
and only and 'opinion' when I do so.
When I report apparent personal psychic phenomena I usually am careful
to point out if I am the sole witness to the event or if another party
was privy to it and even then I try to include relevent facts about the
witnesses' prior knowledge of the phenomenon or if they may have been
biased by expectation or inclination.
In answer to the question, "What kind of awakening is this, Dan?" I can
only answer that it seems to match the textbooks that I have read
concerning spontaneous awakening rather well - especially in the
diversity and unique sequence aspects. It has not followed any
predestined, sacred-textual path, has included elements from a number of
different cultural backgrounds, and continues unabated (and yup, I
consider myself one of the macadamia nuts I speak about =-).
>
> The fact that you went to observe a shaktipat master tells me
> that you are still seeking
>
I said that I was and explained what I was hoping to experience.
>
> There ARE NO COMPARISONS...one path is not "better than another"
> Please do not take offence at the things I am saying to you.
>
None taken, and I agree completely ... have said so, often. However,
expressing an opinion (by one who has said over and over and over again
that he is just expressing an opinion subject to revision, redaction and
retraction, because it is just that; an opinion, a belief held at this
time, not forever, not in spite of new evidence) is not declaring one
path better than another nor is it necessarily attack another's beliefs.
Maurizio Zollo is an avid supporter of Shri Mataji and sees me not as
attacking her, but perhaps as simply misunderstanding our encounter -
seems possible to me.
Love and LAUGHING LIGHT,
Dan-RF
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 17:16:39 +0100
From: bobATnospamakasha.net (bob crowder)
To: "'Kundalini-l'" <Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: rainbows
Message-ID: <01BC6F78.BC18ECC0ATnospambobATnospamakasha.net>
Statements overheard from fifth & sixth graders discussing weather related phenomena. :
"Rainbows are to look at, not to really understand"
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 16:04:49 -0700
From: Morgana Wyze <morganaATnospambest.com>
To: japserATnospamwin.tue.nl
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: computer interference
Message-ID: <33935190.59E2ATnospambest.com>
> for background music.
>
> Is it possible that by meditating the change in brainwaves (from beta
> to alpha or even theta/delta) affects the computer? Is anyone familiar
> with this or do i have a jealous cdplayer? :)
>
Hi Jasper,
I had a lot of experiences with electronics, and we seem to affect the
TIMING of the computers with our K energy. I've thought perhaps when my
vibration rises it causes the quartz crystals in electronics to vibrate
to my energy.
My energy now comes out like a radio carrier wave which affects
magnetic media. If I give a psychic reading or healing session it can't
be recorded, the tape is blank.
Morgana
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 19:20:18 -0400
From: esberk1ATnospamjuno.com
To: brenda.asterinoATnospamdragonbbs.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: <<<<<Obsidian speaks
Message-ID: <19970602.192034.3166.1.esberk1ATnospamjuno.com>
Hi just thought I would mention that the "Temple of the
Feathered Serpent" makes reference to this thought.
It was supposed to allow the Serpant to protect the one performing the
rite and take it safely after the blood was
burned into the heavenly realms.
There are extensive articles on it on the web. Arch. digs, etc.
also: under the "Feathered Serpent Pyramid"
"Noosphere....Temple of the Feathered Serpent"
Doreen
On Mon, 02 Jun 1997 06:44:49 -0400 brenda.asterinoATnospamdragonbbs.com (brenda
asterino) writes:
>I do remember reading something a few months ago about the Mayans.
>It
>exactly described the blood letting as you have.
>
>Brenda
>
>
>
>At 02:44 AM 6/2/97 -0700, you wrote:
>>Dearest (k)ites,
>> A while ago I posted concerning an obsidian dagger that was
>found
>>buried in an Indian mound in Wisconsin and came into my hands briefly
>>and the channelled message that came from the experience of touching
>it.
>> I was asked to go back to it (mentally, I assumed since it
>was returned
>>to the finder many years ago) and do some more psychometry on it. I
>have
>>been reluctant as the original message was very disturbing when
>removed
>>from the context of a belief system that wholeheartedly endorses
>human
>>sacrifice.
>> Allowing myself to do so tonight, "the rest of the story"
>came forward.
>>There was a second artifact and it 'unfolded' in another set of
>imagery.
>>The black obsidian dagger spoke of containing the lifeforce of ten
>>thousand warriors. From the same mound came an amulet.
>> It was flat, about an eighth-inch-thick, made of red and
>white banded
>>agate, about three inches in height by two inches in width, polished
>to
>>an absolute mirror finish with rounded corners. It had a semicircular
>>groove incised around the exterior to receive a leather thong by
>which
>>it was suspended.
>> The amulet belong to a powerful woman; she identified herself
>as Queen,
>>Goddess, Mother, Whore, Lover, Demoness, Priestess. She sat in an
>>incense-smoke-filled room with attendants chanting as she drew a
>>thorn-studded cord through a hole in her tongue. She didn't cry out
>as
>>droplets of blood began forming at the tip of her tongue; instead she
>>seemed to be in a pythonic ecstacy and her arms and body writhed
>>sinuously to the gutteral chants of the attendants. One of them held
>a
>>woven reed basket filled with strips of paper to catch the falling
>drops
>>of blood. As the droplets fell, they sparkled like the faceted eyes
>of
>>the hummingbird god and when they struck the strips of paper were
>>absorbed leaving them with the same striped appearance as the banded
>red
>>and white amulet she wore around her neck.
>> As another attendant was pulling strips from the basket and
>placing
>>them into the fire on a small altar in the room, I asked the woman
>what
>>was going on. She smiled, laughed and said, "You know nothing of
>magic".
>>"As the written word on paper transmits the spoken word silently from
>>one human to another, my will written in the force inherent in my
>blood,
>>taken down directly from my tongue to the strips you see, is
>transmitted
>>by conversion in fire to an ethereal message to the deities. The
>message
>>and the sacrifice are one!"
>> Out of curiosity (curiouser and curiouser as Alice would
>say), I called
>>the man who dug these items up and asked what ever became of them. He
>>told me that shortly after I gave them back to him he reburied them
>>where they were found. Someone had told him that if the State
>>authorities ever got wind of it, they would impound his land
>(emminent
>>domain). Fearing this, he thought it better to just put them back
>where
>>he found them and never mention it again. Interesting circumstances,
>>artifacts, and impressions (they seem to be a mix of things, though
>>can't be sure as I don't know a Maya from and Aztec - may just be
>maya
>>though =-).
>>
>>Sleep tight
>>Love and LAUGHING LIGHT,
>>Dan-RF
>>
>>
>
>
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 17:49:11 -0700 (PDT)
From: M <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net>
To: Nancy Kar <nkarATnospamfreenet.npiec.on.ca>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Teeths and spines....
Message-Id: <199706030049.RAA26865ATnospamgridsat.thegrid.net>
At 01:44 PM 6/2/97 -0400, Nancy Kar wrote:
> I've had the same reoccuring dream about teeth falling out. I'm not sure
>why...
>Also along related lines is about having bubblegum in my mouth and
>not being able to speak or breath because of it.... and panicking.
>I was watching a TV show the one day about women in abusive situations.
>They started to talk about the dreams that they had and the bubblegum
>dream was a very common onw for most of the panel on TV. I was in the same
>situation as these women at that time, too. :)
>
Nancy,
Someone I read (Carolyn Myss maybe) reports we late 20th century females
have lots of fifth chakra issues in general. Makes sense to me. Like Edith
Bunker we've been stiffling for millennia!
M
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 21:15:51 -0400 (EDT)
From: KPitcherATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Teeths and spines....
Message-ID: <970602211444_2020387794ATnospamemout12.mail.aol.com>
Please,Please UNSUBSCRIBE me!!! KPitcherATnospamAol.com
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 22:53:18 -0400 (EDT)
From: KPitcherATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Teeths and spines....
Message-ID: <970602225115_-1799091798ATnospamemout11.mail.aol.com>
Please remove me from your list!!!! Thanks
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 22:57:57 -0400 (EDT)
From: PEGLUMPKINATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: <<<<<Whachamacallit
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Coincidentally, I had just put down a copy of "Music of the Spheres" by Guy
Murchie, when I read the "Whachamacallit" post by Dan-RF. I don´t know how
to "snip" the email text, but Dan´s description of visions of the bubbling
universe was the same thing I had just been reading. The physicists and
astronomers used terms a tad more technical the "Jacuzzi-like," but it´s the
same idea: that matter in the universe is enabled by fundamental turbulence.
I picked up the book because it discusses underlying principles of both the
microcosm and the macrocosm. (Dan is apparently seeing both.) I was looking
specifically for mention of a particular theory that has been bugging me ever
since I ran across it in a strange book. Since I haven´t developed the
direct channels to knowing which some of you have, I rely on books a lot.
Before I ask about this theory, let me put it in context by saying that it
was part of the barrage of coincidental information that fell in my lap when
the kundalini episodes began. Thus far, I have seen the link between the
content of all the coincidences and kundalini, except this one. It´s called
subatomic nutation. I have no background in science but enjoy reading about
fundamentals of physics as they relate to spirituality, metaphysics,
cosmology, etc. Now if I had read about this in a thesis by some Nobel
laureate or other expert with a bunch of credentials, I probably wouldn´t
look so hard for outside corroboration. But I read about it in a very
unusual book called The Ultimate Frontier whose author claims the information
was given to him in 1939 by a Master from an ancient Brotherhood (which is
still out of my comfort zone, guys). So I was wondering if any of the
technical people on the list have run across this idea, or if any of you
whose visions go straight to the source can corroborate or repudiate this
idea.
The theory is that every subatomic particle precesses. For anyone not
familiar with the term, precession at the planetary level is the phenomenon
where the Earth´s tilted axis causes a slow wobble (25,800 years for a
complete rotation), which among other things causes the sun to rise during
the Vernal Equinox through the different zodiacal constellations about every
2,160 years, thereby accounting for the different astrological ages. Those
of you who are into astrology would be familiar with this already. But I ran
across this idea of precession at the subatomic level, referred to as
"nutation," by a man who claims the Master told him "…it is the very key to
the secrets of the universe." The wobble, or nutation rate, of every
subatomic particle (energy bundle) is precisely the same, regardless of the
energy or mass of the particle, and it is responsible for manifestation of
both gravity and magnetism. This nutation in quantum particles comprising
electromagnetic radiation moving at the speed of light through the energy
field causes a chattering effect which creates wave-like pulses. The greater
the energy of the particle, the greater the frequency of the chatter as
particles annihilate into electric and magnetic wave forms which collapse
back into particle again. (Sound familiar, Dan?) This explanation would help
resolve in my mind the wave/particle dual nature of photons. It´s
interesting that this notion of subatomic precession and causative perception
are tied together when you think about how an electron is nothing but a set
of relationships or probabilities until you measure it, at which time it
collapses to a single point, tied to other infinite probabilities. Is this
what L.D.'s post was referring to when he said "our wishes and creations of
ourselves collapse out of the wave function into physicality"? Is this Dan's
"lattice of possibilities"?
This same Master (who called himself Dr. White) addressed the subject of
mental precipitation. He said the path to clairvoyance and awareness/high
consciousness is to gradually raise the frequency of one´s spiritual
vibrations by "character uplift, mental and emotional refinement, and proper
and virtuous living." He said this must be done by living amongst people and
their problems, rather than in an ivory tower, and that if the spiritual
seekers (like yogis) would do that, rather than trying in isolation to seek
glimpses of a higher plane, they could soon "…function upon the Astral Plane
as Adepts…" About coincidence, he said, "When a man thinks about an idea,
he sets up vibrational patterns in the ether. Other men who concern
themselves with similar ideas are subconsciously attracted by these
broadcasted thoughts. In strange ‘coincidental´ ways, two or more such
individuals who can mutually benefit one another are drawn together." He
also made a comment that the people who are best equipped mentally for
spiritual advancement are the scientists, who ironically tend to doubt or
explain away as unverifiable the very experiences which could lead them to
higher consciousness.
I like these ideas but can toss them in my discard pile with the Tooth Fairy
if they're leading to a dead end or wrong turn.
Peggy
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 00:12:47 -0400
From: Dolce Vita <lissetteATnospambridge.net>
To: stampmanATnospamix.netcom.com
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: <<<<<Shaktipat - its not just for breakfast anymore!
Message-ID: <3392483F.4AC7ATnospambridge.net>
Dan wrote>
I also maintain the possibility that this 'spontaneous awakening' of
> mine may be nothing more than the 'bit of undigested cheese' that
> Ebenezer Scrooge spoke so eloquently and skeptically about! However,
> gastric distress USUALLY clears up in less than a year's time!
I must admit you made me laugh, maybe you did not get shaktipat, but you
sure got a sense of humor...
Love,
Lissette
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 00:24:25 -0400 (EDT)
From: LibraKat11ATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: prana/tail bone/crooked spine/books
Message-ID: <970603002423_2087512625ATnospamemout10.mail.aol.com>
Pranic Healing can be ordered from Book Stop at 20% (not online) off and I
think Advanced Pranic Healing can also.
There are also pranic healing workshops done in various parts of the country
and a pranic healing web site. I took one course from Stephen Co, who has
some info at the website. Very dynamic man and very good at what he does.
Kat
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 1997 01:34:51 -0400
From: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net>
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: computer interference
Message-ID: <3393ACFB.F81ATnospammail.snet.net>
japserATnospamwin.tue.nl wrote:
> When i'm meditating, i use my cd-rom as a cd-player. But when i'm
> going deeper to expand/heal the cd's just starts getting in a loop or
> even stops. it does not happen when i use the cdplayer as a provider
> for background music.
>
> Is it possible that by meditating the change in brainwaves (from beta
> to alpha or even theta/delta) affects the computer? Is anyone familiar
> with this or do i have a jealous cdplayer? :)
I have a 100 disc CD player, filled to capacity, which I always
run in random mode.
It is not so random.
The type of songs it selects mirror my present state of mind.
I've investigated the possibility of it being the other way
around. Not so. It clearly responds to my mind-set.
It stays with the same mood without changing back and forth
between high energy and slow energy.
Occasionally I use it as a "musical I-Ching".
I pose a question and the mood and lyric content of the
selected song are relevant to my inquiry.
Once I was experiencing more lucid dreams than usual and posed
a question regarding this.
The selected song was "In My Dreams".
100 CDs, about 10 songs each, that's over 1000 songs to select from.
Another example:
I was at work thinking about a tune I couldn't get out of
my head.
I come home to play it.
Instead of selecting it, I intuitively hit "random" mode.
You guessed it!
It's playing through the loud speakers.(1 in a 1000)
Electronic "randomness" is very susceptible to our thoughts
and subtle energies.
Especially if the outcome is associated with something
so moving as music.
David.
PS:This is my 2nd attempt at writing this note as during the 1st
attempt my computer shut down.
Said I performed an illegal action.
Coincidence?
She's always talking to us, if only we would listen more!
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 23:58:18 -0600
From: Albert and Joyce King <hmcilroyATnospamtelusplanet.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: my aura story
Message-ID: <3393B27A.3D7CATnospamtelusplanet.net>
i asked if anyone had aura/kundalini info: here's my story:
6 months ago, me, the uninitiated, went to see the psychic/aura reader i had visited
2 years before. she commented on the improvements/changes in my aura, and asked if
i had ever heard of kundalini, and i said no. she ten said that she could see "the
spirit awakening" via my aura, as there was purple "hovering" above my head. i
forgot about this for a while, but when i started reading stuff about k. i realized
that i had experienced k. twice, or at least that's what i figure. does the purple
aura stuff ring a bell with anyone? i live in a small isolated town that is
gradually becoming more hip to spiritual things and don't know how to validate her
interpretations of my aura.
i get the teeth falling out dream at least once or twice a year. heard once that it
can be caused by taking in too much info. at once...?
curious about any responses to this
love the group: have learned a lot in the couple weeks since i subscribed.
h.
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 1997 00:37:48 -0700
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: "Garden (the)" <thegardenATnospamworld.std.com>
CC: jan.watsonATnospamsympatico.ca, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Poem
Message-ID: <3393C9CC.510ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
God is One, but His names are many
Reality is One, but its ways are many
Spirituality is One, but religions are many
Humanity is One, but human beings are many
There cannot be one religion for the whole world
Religions are like the flowers of a beautiful garden
Every flower has its own individual beauty
Adding to the total beauty of the garden.
Enjoy the beauty of the flower of your choice
While enjoying the beauty of the garden
Let not your choice be thrust on others
Nor be it a cause for coersion and conflict.
-(I don't know who wrote this)
Most Kind Regards
Lobster
Date: 3 Jun 97 10:19:51
From: Sen Ashanka/AIS spa/IT <Sen_AshankaATnospamAIS01.ais.it>
To: Morgana Wyze <morganaATnospambest.com>
Cc: kundalini-l <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: computer interference
Message-Id: <9706030926.AA2471ATnospamAIS01.ais.it>
Hi Morgana,
You wrote :
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>Hi Jasper,
>
>I had a lot of experiences with electronics, and we seem to affect the
>TIMING of the computers with our K energy. I've thought perhaps when my
>vibration rises it causes the quartz crystals in electronics to vibrate
>to my energy.
> My energy now comes out like a radio carrier wave which affects
>magnetic media. If I give a psychic reading or healing session it can't
>be recorded, the tape is blank.
>Morgana
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This reminds me of an incident related in the book "Autobiograpy of a Yogi" by
Sri Yogananda Paramhansa. In this he related to the time when a person tried to
photograph Sri Lahiri Mahashaya and the photograph simply registered blank
where he was supposed to have been. After much persuation Sri Lahiri Mahashaya
agreed to have a photograph taken and asked the photographer to come the next
day, and this time the photograph registered him well.
If magnetic media and photographic media have problems, it could be that the
phenomenon occurs at a higher level, i.e. simply the fact that spiritual and
mental vibrations cannot be recorded using instruments that record material
phenomenon.
What says ??
Cheers and love to all
Ashanka
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 1997 07:49:02 -0700
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
CC: jan.watsonATnospamsympatico.ca
Subject: Do not think of an elephant
Message-ID: <33942EDE.757ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
This is a bit heavey (weighty) but then so is an elephant and I do not
know how to post that to the list except as an idea . . .
BE WELL
Lobster
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The teaching of the Upanishads is that the Atman is located in the
center of the heart, which is the smallest of things and yet it is also
the
largest thing in the Universe -- if indeed it can be called a "thing".
To
understand this better it must be explained that there are at least two
categories of words: those which define or describe what the mind can
perceive and conceive and which are by nature finite (or occasionally
indefinite) and those which belong to the infinite and unfathomable, for
which words are used not as definitions but as symbols. Such is the
type-form of the term *soul*.
Yet there is a truth in this teaching of the Upanishads from another
point of view which can be called esoteric. That is to say, the more one
concentrates upon unity, the smaller the apparent field of compass in
this
concentration, the greater becomes that outlook although the channel is
narrow. It is like making a telescope more powerful albeit its range of
vision is narrow.
At the same time, soul not being dominated by space is also quite
unlike a telescope for it has an action like a fan opening more and
more,
and in the process of concentration there is both greater range of
vision
and greater depth of vision. This is beyond sphere of mind, also beyond
heart, for soul of itself can attune itself to anything and everything
that
is.
--Hazrat Sufi Ahmed Murad Chisti (Samuel L.
Lewis)
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 1997 10:50:13 -0700
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: KPitcherATnospamaol.com
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Toothless and spineless
Message-ID: <33945955.4ADCATnospamdial.pipex.com>
KPitcherATnospamaol.com wrote:
> Please,Please UNSUBSCRIBE me!!! KPitcherATnospamAol.com
Very polite. Very desperate. Too much email? Too many strange people?
Please, please notice that for every forum you join a way out is posted
to you. You have no one to blaim for you desperation but yourself . . .
Maybe there is a lesson there for all of us . . .
Most Kind Regards
Lobster (desperately polite) :)
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