1997/05/26 12:37
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #250
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 250
Today's Topics:
What is the "Inner Smile"?
Re: focus
TTFN
Kundalini (never heard of it . . .)
wise treatment
Re: focus
Re: focus
Snakebite
Re: chakras and community
Re: Pranayama discussion - kriyas
Re: Kundalini (never heard of it . . .)
Re: St Patrick and St Michael
Re: TTFN
Re: focus
Re: chakras and community
Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 16:35:49 +0400
From: "Dmitry Zayakin" <dzenATnospamtransit.samara.ru>
To: "Kundalini Post" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: What is the "Inner Smile"?
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Hello All!
I've read one of the book about DAO. Am I correct in translating of the
name? This is a Chinese technique. There was mentioned an exercise named
"Inner Smile", but wasn't described how to do it. Does anyone know how to?
Thanks for help.
Love and Light.
Dmitry. dzenATnospamtransit.samara.ru
Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 15:00:45 +0200
From: LionessATnospamtrust-me.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: focus
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E. Jason wrote:
>
>Nice.
>In spiritual terms you have barely begun. All this hocus pocus does not
>focus.
>
Lillemor wrote:
>
>> I COULDN'T DIE........THERE WAS NO DEATH !!!!!.........AND I KNEW IT !!!!!!!
>
E.Jason wrote:
>Nice.
>Prepare to die.
>
>
>"The only consistant thing I have ever done in my life is search for a
>God of my understanding"
>
>mmm . . .
>Understanding God - now there is an impossibility . . .
>
>
>"I just don't know what the next step in my development is...
>I am profoundly grateful to have found this resource..."
>
>My Dear Sisters,
>We are greatful for the presence of all our friends.
>What makes you think you have taken the first step?
>
>
>Most Kind Regards
>Lobster (out of step again)
Yes, I guess you are out of step sweet lobster,
you have to stand for YOUR WORDS by yourself..............
you can't turn around in my head, sorry !!!
Lillemor
Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 09:25:06 -0400 (EDT)
From: GlasmeowATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: TTFN
Message-ID: <970526092505_122613207ATnospamemout06.mail.aol.com>
Hi everybody!
Because of a cross-country move, a change in ISP, and getting a new e-mail
address I'm going to have to have to temporarily un-subscribe from the list.
It's been a lot of fun, and I've learned a lot.
I've always enjoyed reading magazines that were written in part or in whole
by their readers. I love the exchange of ideas and learning what people
really think about things.
So when I discovered this list I got really excited, because here were other
people that had undergone, or were now undergoing, some of the very same
unusual spiritual experiences that I had.
I'm curious about how many people are on this list. It seems like, in the
short time that I've been participating, only about ten or twelve people have
made regular postings, and many of them only in response to someone else's
posting.
Are there really that few people that regularly contribute, did I just happen
to hit a dry spell, or has everybody else already said everything that they
have to say?
I can't believe that you've been intimidated into silence by the
micro-minority of spiritual cyber-bullies that I've run into lately. It seems
that some are here playing guru because they love the attention and the sound
of their own voice (or keyboard).Just remember that those that are truly
under Kundalini's influence are too filled with love and acceptance to lash
out at new ideas in fear.
In order to make you feel more comfortable, however, when I re-subscribe in a
couple of weeks I'll make it a point not to mention the M-----n Church, too
much. I kept exploring that subject after originally bringing it up because I
got so much positive response from so many of you, and the limits of this
forum never seemed very clear to me. But since a few of you seem to be
genuinely bored and/or threatened by spiritual experiences outside of your
own narrow definitions (something that I'm used to in "organized" religion,
but didn't really expect to find here), I'll try to stick to "orthodox"
Kundalini, as soon as I can figure out just what that is.
To David, Victoria, Larry, Sen Ashanka, Brenda, Gloria, Ori^, Robyn, Peggy,
Sarah, Morgana, Ed (Lobster), susan, cen06681 (If that is your real name!),
and (Last but not least),Yogi Tom, thank you for your generosity of spirit,
and keep up your selfless contributions to the spiritual advancement of the
planet. I am going to be reading and pondering your postings in my files for
many days to come!
Love to All!
Ronnie Gee
Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 11:43:06 -0700
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Kundalini (never heard of it . . .)
Message-ID: <3389D9BA.37DFATnospamdial.pipex.com>
Hi,
The below books are all on Kundalini and "Spiritual emergence" along
with their advertising speil. Perhaps those who have read these books
would like to offer their advice, recommendations and insights?
Perils of the Path
Bonnie Lee Hood, Ph.D.
Hood tells the story of her own cataclysmic spiritual awakening and
presents a model of
the death and rebirth in spiritual emergency. It can be terrifying when
all familiar levels of experience are broken through but if the process
is allowed to unfold it can be healing and transforming - moving the
person to higher levels of awareness and integration.
Hood's careful study of spiritual emergency discusses precipitating
causes, stages of
the process and the recovery that can occur with complete surrender.
Moving and
informative.
Assessing and Integrating Kundalini Process: A Clinical Perspective
Bonnie Greenwell, Ph.D.
In this "pragmatic workshop", therapist Greenwell, author of Energies of
Transformation: A Guide to the Kundalini Process, offers suggestions on
how to identify the kundalini awakening experience and help people move
through its processes. Although no two experiences are alike, Greenwell
describes seven characterstics frequently present and suggests ways of
assisting in the often chaotic and lengthy process of moving through the
awakening. A clear and informative discussion.
Kundalini: Chaos or Completion?
Bonnie Greenwell, Ph.D.
Therapist Greenwell offers an in-depth look at the kundalini experience,
noted by the ancients yet still little-understood today. Utilizing
research for her book The Energies of Transformation, as well as
personal experience, Greenwell describes some of the most common
characteristics of kundalini awakening and offers basic guidelines for
assisting the process in oneself and others. Spirituality is intimately
connected to bodily energies, says Greenwell, and in the proper context
these energies can lead to a lifetime of personal development.
The Stormy Search for the Self
Christina Grof
A good overview of the phenomenon of spiritual emergence: What is it?
What sort of events typically trigger it? How is it different from
mental illness? What are the best strategies for working with it?
Christina Grof shares her difficult experience and describes other case
histories to illustrate stages in the process of emergence to a higher
level of awareness. The often disturbing symptoms of spiritual emergence
are really a pathway to greater wholeness and authentic existence. This
new understanding welcomes emergence as guide and teacher and recognizes
it as a common experience, to be worked with as a path to greater
freedom and well-being when its emergent energies are allowed to lead
the transformation.
The Kundalini Process and the Hero's Journey
Claudio Naranjo, M.D.
The kundalini phenomenon is really inseparable from the process of human
development says
psychiatrist Naranjo and he illustrates his view through archetype and
myth, the deep levels where transformation takes place. Tales such as
the Iliad and the Odyssey, the legends of Osiris and the plumed serpent
Quetzalcoatl speak of voyage and return, descent to the depths and
return with treasure.
Contact with this deep energy sets the stage for a new body and
consciousness, bringing darkness into light, freeing the dragon of our
being. A wide-ranging presentation blending myth with biology for a new
understanding of the meaning of emergence.
Making a Place in the DSM-IV for Spiritual Emergency
David Lukoff, Ph.D., Francis Lu, M.D., Robert Turner, M.D., RimaLaibow,
M.D.
Transpersonal psychology meets mainstream psychiatry in this story of
the attempt to win recognition for spiritual experience in the
paradigm-defining diagnostic manual the DSM, soon to undergo a major
revision. The four presenters on this panel examine different aspects of
the controversy: the issues around DSM categorization, the status of
research on psychospiritual anomalies, criteria for distinguishing
spiritual emergence from mental illness, etc. Of interest to clinicians
and others seeking more appropriate diagnostic categories.
Current Triggers of Kundalini Awakening
Emma Bragdon, Ph.D.
Integration is the subject of this warm and clear presentation by
therapist Bragdon: how to incorporate transpersonal experience into a
balanced and productive life. The challenge can be overwhelming;
experiences of awakening may disrupt our normal functioning in the
world, especially if a foundation or "container" of personal and social
stability is lacking. Using Wilber's prepersonal-egoic-transpersonal
developmental spectrum and Mindell's process-oriented psychotherapy,
Bragdon develops a model of spiritual evolution that recognizes the need
for both order and transcendence. Illustrated with intriguing case
histories, this talk offers helpful assistance on the difficult journey
toward a more conscious way of being that is both balanced and awake.
Types of Spiritual Emergency
Jyoti (Jeanine Prevatt, Ph.D.)
Prevatt, former director of the Spiritual Emergence Network, presents
her typology of ten categories of spiritual emergence. From kundalini
awakening and shamanic crisis to near-death experiences and encounters
with UFO's Prevatt outlines a vast and mysterious field of profoundly
transformative non-ordinary experiences. Prevatt shares her own dramatic
experiences and encourages openness in the presence of these unfamiliar
visitations for they come, she says, to heal and teach and awaken. With
courage and trust in Mother Shakti these remarkable journeys can be an
extraordinarily valuable adventure.
Cataclysmic Energy Behind Bodily Symptoms
Max Schupbach, Ph.D.
A warm and witty presentation by Swiss psychologist Schupbach. Working
in the process-oriented therapy of Arnold Mindell, Schupbach stresses
the wisdom of bodily symptoms. Unpredictable as they may be, symptoms
are really a developmental process seeking expression. We should trust
the symptoms and in their own way they will lead us to heightened states
of being. Surrendering to the symptoms is the path to expanded identity,
beyond the limits of the rational mind. Schupbach's portrait of this
intelligent universal energy seeking expression is fascinating and
compelling.
Energetic Transmutations in the Kundalini Process
Stuart Sovatsky, Ph.D.
In this thoughtful presentation Sovatsky, director of the Kundalini
Clinic, offers a tantric yoga for our time. Going deeply into emotion
permits reunion with the ground of our existence. Feeling is really the
power of reality emerging through us, whether in joy or pain. Faithfully
opening to our experience, it becomes universal energy, deepening our
being with its radiant truth. Sovatsky discusses yogic techniques of
chant and breathing, and powerfully demonstrates what a kundalini
emergence is like.
-----------------
Most Kind Regards
Lobster
Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 12:28:32 -0700
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
CC: jan.watsonATnospamsympatico.ca
Subject: wise treatment
Message-ID: <3389E460.66D0ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
WHO WOULD ADMIT TO IGNORANCE
Nobody is ever wrong based on their own estimation but what is their
estimation based on? How much is conditioned and learnt behaviour and
thought? Let us take the analogy of a computer; the value of its
flexibility is the ability for it to store in memory different programs
at different times. You can write a letter in a spreadsheet or create a
graph in a word processor. However it is in using each tool effectively
for results that is important. It is not a question of who has the best
software but who can get the job done.
So each tool can be effective and produce results. The value of memory
is that it is empty. When a new program comes up we must be prepared to
give up the old software and use the better product. We do not have to
but when we insist that our old program can do everything we need, then
our needs may be limited by our insistence.
So too with knowledge, we can try to torture all kind of meaning and
importance out of what we have or we can start again. It is this
capacity to say, "I know nothing" that allows us to examine ourselves
afresh, to see the value in others opinions and efforts.
You can be sure that for everything that we hold to be true others hold
an opposing or differing view. It is for this reason that the wise are
happy to be referred to as ignorant but the ignorant insist on being
treated as if wise.
Most Kind Regards
Lobster
Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 12:01:44 -0400 (EDT)
From: CGIAJWATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: focus
Message-ID: <970526120143_453379043ATnospamemout09.mail.aol.com>
I think I missed something important, but here's my 2c
Since I no longer know who wrote what, all names will be converted to "Namley"
, hope you can still follow.
>> so I'm also in Great Peace now, in synchroncity with everything, stronger
then
>> ever, radiant and laughing and knowing who I AM............
>
>Nice.
>In spiritual terms you have barely begun. All this hocus pocus does not
>focus.
>
Barley begun?!? At great peace, synchoncity, radiant, laughing, perhaps a
bit carried away and speaking with such conviction that it appears egoist.
You are very close to nirvana, if not at it! Bliss, peace, infinite love,
connectedness, once these gems have been won, the extra stuff is just icing
on the cake!
>
>> I COULDN'T DIE........THERE WAS NO DEATH !!!!!.........AND I KNEW IT
!!!!!!!
>
>Nice.
>Prepare to die.
>
You two have differences in opinion, from my experience I agree with the
first. There is no real death, only illusions of death, as the death card in
Tarot is change, so too is real physical death only change. Stagnation and
inability to change and grow is the closest thing to real death.
>
>"The only consistant thing I have ever done in my life is search for a
>God of my understanding"
>
>mmm . . .
>Understanding God - now there is an impossibility . . .
>
In your opinion Namley! I too believe that I will one day come into knowing
with god, that "god" will alow me to experiece it's conciousness.
>
>"I just don't know what the next step in my development is...
>I am profoundly grateful to have found this resource..."
>
>My Dear Sisters,
>We are greatful for the presence of all our friends.
>What makes you think you have taken the first step?
>
>
>Most Kind Regards
>Lobster (out of step again)
Namley, why are you being such a hard ass? Namley is happy and grateful for
joining the list where she feels she will grow under our combined wisdom.
Perhaps what you say somehow helps her in a roundabout zen master kinda way,
but If I got your post I'd be very disenchanted and unsubscribe. Also note
how your negative vibes are desperately trying to bring Namley's "good trip"
down. What's your heavy man? Go chill out with some groove music and
lighten up!
I think what we have is a difference in religions and two very convicted
people suddenly clashing ideas. Next time you post something like this,
watch your language, try to ask or debate, instead of insult and put down.
Namley, welcome to the list, may your skin harden to endure, were actually
all very nice, but we get a bit intense with our words. I think it stems
from not being able to get in eachother's faces.
Aaron
PS If I totally missed the point, or am yelling at the wrong people, so
sorry :(
Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 18:38:33 +0200
From: LionessATnospamtrust-me.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: focus
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>I think I missed something important, but here's my 2c
>Since I no longer know who wrote what, all names will be converted to "Namley"
>, hope you can still follow.
>
>>> so I'm also in Great Peace now, in synchroncity with everything, stronger
>then
>>> ever, radiant and laughing and knowing who I AM............
>>
>>Nice.
>>In spiritual terms you have barely begun. All this hocus pocus does not
>>focus.
>>
>Barley begun?!? At great peace, synchoncity, radiant, laughing, perhaps a
>bit carried away and speaking with such conviction that it appears egoist.
> You are very close to nirvana, if not at it! Bliss, peace, infinite love,
>connectedness, once these gems have been won, the extra stuff is just icing
>on the cake!
>>
>>> I COULDN'T DIE........THERE WAS NO DEATH !!!!!.........AND I KNEW IT
>!!!!!!!
>>
>>Nice.
>>Prepare to die.
>>
>You two have differences in opinion, from my experience I agree with the
>first. There is no real death, only illusions of death, as the death card in
>Tarot is change, so too is real physical death only change. Stagnation and
>inability to change and grow is the closest thing to real death.
>>
>>"The only consistant thing I have ever done in my life is search for a
>>God of my understanding"
>>
>>mmm . . .
>>Understanding God - now there is an impossibility . . .
>>
>In your opinion Namley! I too believe that I will one day come into knowing
>with god, that "god" will alow me to experiece it's conciousness.
>>
>>"I just don't know what the next step in my development is...
>>I am profoundly grateful to have found this resource..."
>>
>>My Dear Sisters,
>>We are greatful for the presence of all our friends.
>>What makes you think you have taken the first step?
>>
>>
>>Most Kind Regards
>>Lobster (out of step again)
>
>Namley, why are you being such a hard ass? Namley is happy and grateful for
>joining the list where she feels she will grow under our combined wisdom.
> Perhaps what you say somehow helps her in a roundabout zen master kinda way,
>but If I got your post I'd be very disenchanted and unsubscribe. Also note
>how your negative vibes are desperately trying to bring Namley's "good trip"
>down. What's your heavy man? Go chill out with some groove music and
>lighten up!
>
>I think what we have is a difference in religions and two very convicted
>people suddenly clashing ideas. Next time you post something like this,
>watch your language, try to ask or debate, instead of insult and put down.
>
>Namley, welcome to the list, may your skin harden to endure, were actually
>all very nice, but we get a bit intense with our words. I think it stems
>from not being able to get in eachother's faces.
>
>Aaron
>PS If I totally missed the point, or am yelling at the wrong people, so
>sorry :(
---------------
Lillemor replies to Aaron:
If you think that I'm egoistic when I speak in conviction.....I just shake
my head !
Thanks otherwise for the yelling at this very unethical Lobster.
That guy is not only ignorant, but unethical and everything else then humble !
I really wonder what list I subscribed to, and I can say that it doesn't feel
like a safe place to share experiences that is about kundalini.
Those powers is not yo play with stupid Lobster, and not with me eather.
I suggest strongly that people don't lash out there projections if we gonna
have a conversation here - otherwise I will definitely not be long here, that's
for sure.
My humble oppinion that is grounded on
profound and devotional spiritual work.
Lillemor
Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 00:40:06 -0400
From: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net>
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Snakebite
Message-ID: <3387C2A6.430EATnospammail.snet.net>
I was lost in the woods.
When an energetic snake bit me.
Her venom infused my body.
With her essence.
Her poison penetrated.
Deep into my higher soul.
I thought she was a demon.
Sent from the abyss.
My world view shook.
In jaws of vibrant delirium.
I grasped at the familiar.
But it was on fire.
So I burned with it.
Her fire was hot like the heat of death.
But I would not let go.
Plugged in.
To an electric eel.
I wrestled with her.
She spoke in tongues unimaginable.
Then she showed me a vision.
Of a burning figure.
Raging with flames.
It would not decay.
Like the bush that Moses saw.
I knew that it was me.
She said,
"Let go. There is no turning back."
The music stopped.
She shot straight out of my head.
And headed for the stars.
My world was dead.
I was dead.
I breathed.
I thanked her.
Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 19:03:53 +0100
From: Tom Aston <yogi.tomATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, brenda asterino <brenda.asterinoATnospamdragonbbs.com>
Subject: Re: chakras and community
Message-ID: <8awi4ZAJCdizEwzMATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
In message <1.5.4.32.19970526105003.00693820ATnospamdragonbbs.com>, brenda
asterino <brenda.asterinoATnospamdragonbbs.com> writes
>Would anyone like to speak more about chakras? I thought over the years I
>had gleaned at least a basic understanding. However, a friend and I are
>aware of other openings happening on our bodies... like another set of
>chakras on the back as well as the front.... I especially feel them
>behind my heart and throat chakras. We have also been aware of more
>communal type experiences. Where I might experience the Oneness or the
>Void, etc. as an individual communing with something greater than myself...
>now this is happening with others at the same time. We are having shared
>experiences at the same time with the Oneness. I do not consider these
>psychic (in the sense of mental) in nature. Comments?
>
>Brenda
>
the heart can be the source of tremendous unity and compassion and
connectedness
the throat is altogether different in that it tends to give rise to
esoteric understanding and sensitivity to sound and language....
and acts as the gateway to the head chakras and the purification of the
brain and the senses.....
as for the void, that is rather different to the opening of the heart in
that it is associated with the death of the old conditioned mind that
comes with the opening of the head chakras....
while it might lead ultimately to the heart, as far as i know, with
kundalini there tends to be a transitional process in which the mind is
transformed before the heart can arise as the centre of being.....
connecting with realities and truths greater than ourselves is what it's
all about...
and when one learns to trust these intuitions it can be amazing to find
the universe nurturing them into relationships and words and truths that
are mind-boggling in their depth and profoundity.....
so you are quite right, psychic doesn't really come into it at all.....
even if these relationships can bring on all kinds of energy experiences
outside the mundane experience which may have psychic aspects
this is the spirit awakening, don't ignore her as you may regret it
later....
one can never go too deep......
and the community just gets bigger
nothing can be excluded by the heart.......
Yogi Tom
--
Tom Aston
Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 11:41:51 -0700
From: Ken McFarland <kenmATnospamOREGON.UOREGON.EDU>
To: Tom Aston <yogi.tomATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, cen06681ATnospamcenturyinter.net
Subject: Re: Pranayama discussion - kriyas
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At 06:47 PM 5/25/97 +0100, Tom Aston wrote:
>or, if you are able to master it, take a mouthful of water, tilt the
>head back and then instead of swallowing it , push it up into the nasal
>passage as it goes past the tongue into the throat, water should come
>out of the nostrils along with accumulated debris.
I find tilting the head forward, chin on your chest, and lean over more as
needed, will bring the saline to the nasal passages. You can then tilt left
or right, for the desired nostral. Apply gentle air pressure to move the
saline through. If the nostril is plugged apply gentle pressure over time
then allow the saline to begin disovling the mucus before trying again. If
necessary, also press the other nostral closed with your finger. Pressure
must be very gentle. You can easily force material into your eustachian
tubes (tube to the inner ear) which can lead to all kinds of problems.
Tom, you are right - don't do this too often - once a week max or see your doc.
Ken
Date: Mon, 26 May 97 19:02:58 GMT
From: cen06681ATnospamcenturyinter.net
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Kundalini (never heard of it . . .)
Message-Id: <M.052697.140258.25ATnospamcenturyinter.net>
Thankyou!
Date: Mon, 26 May 97 19:12:13 GMT
From: cen06681ATnospamcenturyinter.net
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: St Patrick and St Michael
Message-Id: <M.052697.141213.54ATnospamcenturyinter.net>
Your understanding of the word Saint as it was coined by the Catholic Church
is correct.The archangel Micheal is one of the 7 major Archangels who
heads a Ray of creation, sort of an octave or sound. Also a lens for
undifferentiated creative light expression. He translates this undifferentiated
light into 1 of seven possible light frequencies in this universe. What we feel
as K- release is usually base upon which of these seven frequencies we have
manifest our form an personality upon for this lifetime. The other six octaves
or frequencies are all each headed by other arch angels. You are wrong in
thinking that i am tired of the Mormon perspective, as all perspectives which
stick to the forum of in this file interest me. The deeper esoteric truths of
any world religion all lead to the same place, as there , in truth is only one
place to be, in the end.
Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 15:13:03 -0400 (EDT)
From: RobynkujATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: TTFN
Message-ID: <970526151301_-1465304615ATnospamemout07.mail.aol.com>
Happy move!
Yes, narrow-mindedness is not confined exclusely to orthodoxia, as I had once
erroneously thought.
Whaaaa! Yet another illusion shattered. ;)
I've been lurking for about 4 months and have learned quite a bit about K.
Haven't been particularly successful in the posting dept. tho'. But even
then, that brought up my "rejection" drama so that I may hopefully strip away
some fear in that area. Sorry Claus, I know you told me to "stay out of your
mailbox" but I'm posting again anyway! ;)
see ya soon,
Robyn
Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 19:38:29 +0100
From: Tom Aston <yogi.tomATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: focus
Message-ID: <SabpIjAlidizEw3IATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
In message <l03102801afaf6ceb1f24ATnospam[130.244.119.29]>, LionessATnospamtrust-
me.com writes
>>I think I missed something important, but here's my 2c
words without physical presence and sound of voices can be very
misleading, especially when meant ironically......
so, anyone offended by posts like Lobster's, please don't go, he is a
kind old crustacean at heart who only means the best for us.......
i enjoy all the posts, even those apparently critical of myself......
kundalini is a dynamic and challenging energy that does not always meet
our preconceptions of how she should be......
regards
Yogi Tom
Date: Mon, 26 May 97 19:49:06 GMT
From: cen06681ATnospamcenturyinter.net
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: chakras and community
Message-Id: <M.052697.144906.16ATnospamcenturyinter.net>
A good book explaining about the chakras, and their interaction with kundalini
is "Kundalini and the Chakras, by Genevive Lewis Paulsen" Its listed in the K
file bib list.
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