1997/05/25 11:03
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #248
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 248
Today's Topics:
Re: mormonism and K
JUST WHAT IS THE DEAL WITH KUNDALINI, ANYWAY?
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re:questions from a beginner
Re: Emotional wisdom
Re: JUST WHAT IS THE DEAL WITH KUNDALINI, ANYWAY?
Re: Egolessness
Re: St Patrick and St Michael
Re: St Patrick and St Michael
Re: Holographic Integrity
RE: Philip St. Romain's e-mail address
Re: St Patrick and St Michael
Re: St Patrick and St Michael
Unreasoning intellect
Re: A dialog between a Guru and his Chela The Crow and the Rave
Re: mormonism and K
Re: A dialog between a Guru and his Chela The Crow and the Rave
Re: Pranayama discussion
Re: JUST WHAT IS THE DEAL WITH KUNDALINI, ANYWAY?
Re: JUST WHAT IS THE DEAL WITH KUNDALINI, ANYWAY?
Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 15:04:08 -0400 (EDT)
From: GlasmeowATnospamaol.com
To: RobynkujATnospamaol.com
cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: mormonism and K
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Robyn,
I'm sorry to hear about your negative experiences with the Church. I'm sorry
to say that I know just where you're coming from.(And I also had the pleasure
of having two different mission presidents indulge their egotism by treating
me and my buddies like dirt for two years - oh, I've got stories...).
As the Church has gotten bigger, the bureaucrats have created an instution in
which they can indulge their own egotism."The inmates have taken over the
asylum." Or however that saying goes. (But I also believe that the higher up
in the organization you go, the less likely you are to encounter self-serving
people, which is just the opposite of the U.S. political system.)
The Lord warned against this very thing in the Doctrine and Covenants:
121:39
We have learned by sad experience that it is the nature and disposition
of almost all MEN, as soon as they get a little authority, as they suppose,
they will immediately begin to exercise unrighteous dominion.
121:40
Hence many are called, but few are chosen.
(My emphasis on the word "MEN")
There are many good people of both genders in the Church, but sometimes it's
like listening to the radio, a little static can totally spoil your enjoyment
of the music.
When I experienced my own awakening, (mighty change of heart, rebirth), I was
given an understanding that it was THEIR problem, and not mine, and I didn't
have to let them keep me off of my chosen path.
A little patience and a sense of humor can go a long way in keeping your
sanity.
I think a lot of the MORONS of Mormonism were given positions of authority by
the Lord to teach them lessons that they need to learn, but they've closed
their hearts to the opportunity.
Re: the lady talking on the radio about her excommunication:
I didn't hear this broadcast, but the doctrine of a Mother in Heaven has been
accepted in the Church for nearly a hundred and fifty years, ever since Eliza
R. Snow wrote the hymn "Oh My Father".("In the Heavens, are Parents single?
No the thought makes reason stare. Truth is reason, truth eternal tells me
I've a Mother there.") Snow is considered by many to be something of a
prophetess, though she was never called that officially.
In my experience, people that have been excommunicated from the Church often
cast themselves in the most sympathetic light possible, glossing over the
real reasons presented for their excommunication. If she were telling people
to pray directly to Mother, out of a spirit of rebellion, I could see where
that would ruffle some feathers. One of the hardest doctrines of Mormonism is
submitting to authority, even when it is against your better judgement. We
believe we will be rewarded for our obedience, even if our leaders are in the
wrong. We are also commanded to seek spiritual confirmation of everything we
are told.(The problem is when we can't get confirmation. Sometimes we have a
problem with being humble enough to accept the answer we didn't want to
receive, and sometimes the leader IS in the wrong.)
Personally I'm serving in the only organization in the Church (The Primary)
where women are given leadership authority over men, and I love it. The
concept of "feminine energy" is very real, though I've personally known
ALMOST as many female idiots as male.
I've been taught that men are physically larger and stronger in order to
serve their families and others,and that we will be held accountable for any
abuse of this power.(Which is going to be bad news for an awful lot of men.)
I'm starting to believe that all of the truth is not presented plainly in the
Scriptures, and it is only when we are ready to receive it that it will be
made plain to us.
I'm really starting to ramble here,so let me close by saying: God lives,
Jesus is the Christ, and the Gospel is true.
Love,
Ronnie Gee
Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 15:04:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: GlasmeowATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: JUST WHAT IS THE DEAL WITH KUNDALINI, ANYWAY?
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In the few days that I've been on the list, I've encountered many different
ideas from different people. (Which is cool.)
But I've got the type of personality that needs structure.(According to
David, that's my big problem, which I don't dispute! )
Is there a book of ancient or modern writings that sums up just what falls
under the label "Kundalini". I've seen that there are books with the word
"Kundalini" in the title, but I'm looking for a book that will make my
understanding (mind and heart) go *click*.
(OK David, is the mind or the heart the true self ? I know there's a
difference because I know and can understand things with my heart that are
way beyond the abilities of my mind to comprehend. Please explain the answer
to my heart, I'm sure my mind won"t get it.)
This group is something I've been looking for my whole life, God bless
e-mail!
Peace to all,
Ronnie Gee
Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 15:09:04 -0400 (EDT)
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Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 15:03:58 -0400 (EDT)
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Subject: Re: Egolessness
David,
This is why I subscribed to the list!
I am grateful to you for taking the time to respond. It's really nice to be
able to take what I've experienced and what I've read and bounce them off of
somebdy else.(Or off of ourself, as it were.)
Yes the cartoon analogy is a weak one, but it is easier for people to start
with that familiar image. Brush the devil off of your shoulder, let the angel
flow into your body, and that is reality.
Mormons believe that we came to this Earth to learn and grow. (or as some put
it, "to be tested and gain experience.") In order for us to do this, God
placed a "veil of forgetfulness" over our minds, causing us to forget who we
REALLY are and where we came from. Apparently there is a valuable lesson to
be learned from discovering these things for ourselves.
I work with a guy who enjoys chewing on the deeper concepts of Mormonism. We
have often talked about how to undergo the paradigm shift that would allow us
to esteem others as we esteem ourselves, and God. (The Great Commandment).
We have spent so much time talking about it, that I'm convinced that words
alone are not the way to achieve it.
An intellectual knowledge is not enough, (as you have pointed out), but I
don't know how to achieve a deeper knowledge.(Actually I think I do, but I'm
afraid - how's that for silly?)
How do I "realize that I never lost it", when I can't feel the lightness in
my heart anymore? (My heart tells me that learning to meditate would help,
but I'm afraid of the effort and possibility of "failure").
Re: "Stop thinking"
I'm an extremely emotional person with a very high I.Q.(Which has convinced
me that the concept of "intelligence" having value is HIGHLY overrated. I
feel like thinking has done as much to screw-up my life as anything. I have a
strong case of Gump envy.) Because of this mind/heart conflict I have gone
through life deeply troubled and confused, distrusting people that use big
words AND people that wear their hearts on their sleeves. But it is really
hard to let go."Better the evil that we know, ..."
I'm totally turned off by the concept of Mensa, I'm more interested in the
lessons that children can teach me.
Thanks for your patience.
Ronnie Gee
Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 13:22:13 -0700 (PDT)
From: susan carlson <carlsonsATnospamrocketmail.com>
To: abstruseATnospamaristotle.net
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: re:questions from a beginner
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hello,
i started having the vibrations first before anything else in my
kundalini experiences. it felt like a big wave rolling up my spine
from my toes to the bottom of my skull. it would stop right before
entering into my brain. there was nothing else. no visions, music,
colors, etc.
it wasn't until i received shaktipat that the multidimensional,
paranormal effects started.
in my own experience, i do best with kundalini if i take an eclectic
approach. i have found that nutritional styles don't really make a
difference. ( i am carniverous and also guru mai has said that shakti
loves sugar. go figure.)
being with other people who have rising kundalini at times enhances my
experiences. passionate music gets my kundalini going such as works by
tangerine dream, deep forest by la boehme, or any really primitive
works. at times i can call the blue fire by asking for it. kundalini
has its own divine intelligence and sometimes comes when i am not
anticipating it or prepared. (imagine that). pranayama can fire me
quickly into ecstasy. the fire breath orgasm technique taught by
harley swift deer of the deer tribe works great.
i do my best to not prejudge my experiences or put them in a religious
framework. whatever serves me best is what i use.
what works best for you, use it. if you intend to do no harm and
follow the prime directive,use common sense and listen to your heart
you really can't go astray.
my own belief system is that knowing the bliss of kundalini is
everyone's right if they want it.
i also find that as the kundalini rises, the kundalini begins to clear
blocks, our addictions fall away, and our lives begin to be set in
order. it does not take a strict adherence to a particular lifestyle
for this to happen. ( thank god or i would never get anywhere. no one
can ever accuse me of being self-disciplined.)
i have found that over the years bliss and joy are now bone-deep
within me. if i quiet myself i can feel even the marrow oscillate with
the scintillating blue light. sometimes my teeth vibrate with the
energy.
these are just a few of my experiences with this divine energy.
blessings as you begin to know what true joy can be,
susan
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Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 14:36:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: susan carlson <carlsonsATnospamrocketmail.com>
To: Ken McFarland <kenmATnospamOREGON.UOREGON.EDU>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Emotional wisdom
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dear ken:
i have found in working with kundalini, emotional wisdom comes after
the experience. it is not a prerequisite to working on a spiritual
path.
previous conventional wisdom says that it is the practice that brings
the experience. my experience is otherwise. kundalini works on me,
if you'll excuse this awful analogy, like a meat tenderizer. my heart
become soft and receptive because of the work of shakti. if i had to
wait until i became "spiritual" to experience my own divinity, i and
probably many others would be left out in the cold. fortunately,
there is something called "grace" and the shakti respects no religious
practice or lifestyle. it definately can be the bolt out of the blue
( or would it be the blue bolt?).
as long as you intend to remain in the energy, it will begin to heal
your split. it has already begun or why would you ask such questions?
for further reading about the grace of kundalini i refer you to swami
muktanada's book . . .kunadlini: the secret of life published by the
syda foundation. 914-434-0124. although i am not a follwer of the
siddha tradition ( well, not religiously) it contains a lot of great
information.
blessings
susan
---Ken McFarland <kenmATnospamOREGON.UOREGON.EDU> wrote:
>snip<
> I have been thinking about the enlightenment process and wondering
if one
> can give up the self, give up ego, without first having completed
some
> degree of positive vertical growth. I think not, at present. I think
one
> must develop a degree of self-worth, feeling of competency,
effacacy, even
> pride, before letting go of self and ego, otherwise, the underlying
systems
> will be operating from a negative, unexciting, joyless dimension.
>
> Your thoughts and the thoughts of all others on the list will be
most welcome.
>
> Sincerely,
> Ken
>
>
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Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 14:52:47 -0700 (PDT)
From: susan carlson <carlsonsATnospamrocketmail.com>
To: GlasmeowATnospamaol.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: JUST WHAT IS THE DEAL WITH KUNDALINI, ANYWAY?
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regarding what is your true self:
maybe by now from reading my posts a little understanding of me is
that i am not intellectual. i have found that when i address things
from the mental standpoint i miss the point almost all the time. and
often trying to understand or explain things intellectually, for me,
becomes an exercise in mental masturbation. and i am really good at
that. i feel real good afterwards but i haven't really gone anywhere.
this was my experience in trying to understand the true self. now what
i
understand it to be in my own belief system is this. is it the heart
or the mind? my error was in thinking there are those two separate
things that are part of me. not! i am a holographic being,
pandimensional in scope. to separate myself into neat little
compartments is not cool. the whole of me is contained in the parts.
seeing myself as separate promotes the illusion of separation from
myself, from others, the world, and the source. it's not true! at
least i have found it not to be so. as i began to heal my separation
(shakti is a great help) i began to experience the oneness with others
and the source.
and this is what is so for me.
blessings
susan
---GlasmeowATnospamaol.com wrote:
>
>
>
> In the few days that I've been on the list, I've encountered many
different
> ideas from different people. (Which is cool.)
>
> But I've got the type of personality that needs structure.(According
to
> David, that's my big problem, which I don't dispute! )
>
> Is there a book of ancient or modern writings that sums up just what
falls
> under the label "Kundalini". I've seen that there are books with the
word
> "Kundalini" in the title, but I'm looking for a book that will make
my
> understanding (mind and heart) go *click*.
>
> (OK David, is the mind or the heart the true self ? I know there's a
> difference because I know and can understand things with my heart
that are
> way beyond the abilities of my mind to comprehend. Please explain
the answer
> to my heart, I'm sure my mind won"t get it.)
>
> This group is something I've been looking for my whole life, God
bless
> e-mail!
>
> Peace to all,
>
> Ronnie Gee
>
>
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Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 18:36:18 -0400
From: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net>
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Egolessness
Message-ID: <33876D62.6490ATnospammail.snet.net>
GlasmeowATnospamaol.com wrote:
> How do I "realize that I never lost it", when I can't feel the lightness in
> my heart anymore? (My heart tells me that learning to meditate would help,
> but I'm afraid of the effort and possibility of "failure").
You've touched something.
We are conditioned to the "success/failure" model.
This is an instrument of duality.
We tell ourselves that here and now is not good enough.
But the Here and Now is where Eternity resides.
We invest in believing we are not whole.
A dangerous and painful belief.
If we are extensions of the Universal Self, who is
complete, how could we be incomplete, except for in a dream?
We invent time and chase the horizon.
Until we realize we are the horizon.
> I'm totally turned off by the concept of Mensa, I'm more interested in the
> lessons that children can teach me.
Didn't Jesus say the Kingdom of Heaven is reserved for those
whose minds are like children?
Open. Empty. Unconditioned.
Children are a good reflection our real nature.
(Until we teach them what we know.)
Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 19:02:05 -0400 (EDT)
From: DeeAnkhATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: St Patrick and St Michael
Message-ID: <970524190204_-795164583ATnospamemout19.mail.aol.com>
for a different an interesting spin on St. Michael, St. George, and other
beings connected with dragons, serpents, ley lines, and other squiggly energy
things, read "View Over Atlantis" (or something close) by John Michell (or
Mitchell, or something close)--
blessings, Dee
Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 19:21:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: DeeAnkhATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: St Patrick and St Michael
Message-ID: <970524192144_-1867072411ATnospamemout07.mail.aol.com>
maybe you need to read the St, Michael material by Rudolf Steiner, which you
can get from the Anthroposophical Society.
Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 20:51:18 -0400 (EDT)
From: GlasmeowATnospamaol.com
To: carlsonsATnospamrocketmail.com
cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Holographic Integrity
Message-ID: <970524205117_-1665834528ATnospamemout02.mail.aol.com>
Susan!
You just reminded me of something that the still, small voice told me when I
was undergoing my "awakening".
It was a variation on the scripture "Be ye therefore perfect, even as I, or
your Father which is in Heaven is perfect."
The voice said "Be ye therefore WHOLE ..."
I just knew that I should have written everything down at the time, but I was
caught totally off guard, and flabbergasted (in a good way) when it happened.
(About fourteen months ago.)
Thanks,
Ronnie Gee
Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 21:02:47 -0500
From: Patty <saletATnospamcommunique.net>
To: "'Mohanamurali Parasuraman'" <mohanpATnospampc.jaring.my>,
"'Kundalini-l'"
<Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: RE: Philip St. Romain's e-mail address
Message-ID: <01BC6885.DAA95200ATnospamsaletATnospamcommunique.net>
http://www.feist.com/~philisa/index.html
...is Philip St. Romain's home page. He has his email address listed
there as:
slcofksATnospamfeist.com.
-----Original Message-----
From: Mohanamurali Parasuraman [SMTP:mohanpATnospampc.jaring.my]
Sent: Friday, May 23, 1997 9:48 PM
To: 'Kundalini-l'
Subject: Philip St. Romain's e-mail address
Dear List Members,
Does anyone out there know the e-mail address of Philip St.
Romain?
Philip, are you still on the list? Pls reply soon.
Mohan
Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 00:58:02 -0400 (EDT)
From: LibraKat11ATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: St Patrick and St Michael
Message-ID: <970525005801_2019505127ATnospamemout13.mail.aol.com>
Tom,
Perhaps snakes were never indigenous to Ireland and the story of St. Francis
was a way to explain why there were none. I, too, am of Irish descent and
have a special affinity for Ireland (clearly remember a past life there).
Also, I'm not Catholic and don't know that much about saints, but wasn't it
St. George who slew the dragon? Seems I recall seeing this depicted in
stained glass somewhere. Just wondered.
Kat
Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 22:45:13 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: LibraKat11ATnospamaol.com
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: St Patrick and St Michael
Message-ID: <33876165.6212ATnospamintercomm.com>
LibraKat11ATnospamaol.com wrote:
>
> Tom,
>
> Perhaps snakes were never indigenous to Ireland and the story of St. Francis
> was a way to explain why there were none. I, too, am of Irish descent and
> have a special affinity for Ireland (clearly remember a past life there).
>
> Also, I'm not Catholic and don't know that much about saints, but wasn't it
> St. George who slew the dragon? Seems I recall seeing this depicted in
> stained glass somewhere. Just wondered.
>
> Kat
HI all,
The dragon is generally symbolic of Lucerifer or Satan, Blessed Mother
is who is seen standing on the head of the snake since she is the energy
to tame kundalini.
St. Michael is ranked as the greatest of all angels in Jewish, Christian
or Islamic writings, secular or religious. He is chief of the order of
virtures and archangels, prince of the presence, angel of repentance,
rightiousness, mercy and santification. He is also the conqueror or
Satan. He is credited as the author of Psalms 85. He also stayed the
hand of Abraham when he was ready to sacrifice Issac. He is normally
located in the 7th Heaven. In a recently found manuscript with the Dead
Sea Scrolls one is called the War of the Sons of Light Against the Sons
of Darkness. Here he is called Prince of Light, he leads the agels of
light in battle against the legions of the angels of darkness, the
latter under the command of the demon Belial. There is much more On St.
Michael.
I will see what I can find on.St Michael for you. Gloria
Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 09:15:09 -0700
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
CC: jan.watsonATnospamsympatico.ca
Subject: Unreasoning intellect
Message-ID: <3388658D.2C92ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
GlasmeowATnospamaol.com wrote:
> Yes the cartoon analogy is a weak one, but it is easier for people to start
> with that familiar image. Brush the devil off of your shoulder, let the angel
> flow into your body, and that is reality.
Angels and devils are like heaven and hell and most so called kundalini
expereience; subjective mind projections. So what is reality? Well when
we stop having mystical and spiritual expereinces and start to develop
helpful and virtuos behaviour; When we are content in ourselves and with
our God/Goddess or our lack of any such mind projection we may begin . .
.
> Mormons believe that we came to this Earth to learn and grow. (or as some put
> it, "to be tested and gain experience.") In order for us to do this, God
> placed a "veil of forgetfulness" over our minds, causing us to forget who we
> REALLY are and where we came from. Apparently there is a valuable lesson to
> be learned from discovering these things for ourselves.
Agreed. We did this however. We choose our life and the major life
experiences. It is only when we accept the nature of this self induced
learning - in other words only when we learn the lessons, that we start
to see that joining an esoteric school or church is not needed. Life is
the esoteric school. Of course on accepting this we may still continue
or join groupings. Schools within schools . . .
> I work with a guy who enjoys chewing on the deeper concepts of Mormonism. We
> have often talked about how to undergo the paradigm shift that would allow us
> to esteem others as we esteem ourselves, and God. (The Great Commandment).
You are vain enough to imagine you can do that? There is a great deal
you need to let go of first. You think you know things. You think you
may understand or develop. First you need to accept that the very
process of learning may be so heavily conditioned that the possibility
of real learning may never get off the ground. There are two books that
I would recommend to any genuine person: "Learning How to Learn" and
"Seeker After Truth" both by Idries Shah. I spent many years studying
these books - they rarely mention God. God is too deep a subject for
those full of themselves . . .
> We have spent so much time talking about it, that I'm convinced that words
> alone are not the way to achieve it.
> An intellectual knowledge is not enough, (as you have pointed out), but I
> don't know how to achieve a deeper knowledge.(Actually I think I do, but I'm
> afraid - how's that for silly?)
> How do I "realize that I never lost it", when I can't feel the lightness in
> my heart anymore? (My heart tells me that learning to meditate would help,
> but I'm afraid of the effort and possibility of "failure").
Those who do not try have already failed. You are a Christian; read the
"Philokalia" and practice the Jesus prayer. Have you read "The Cloud of
Unknowing", the works of St John of the Cross, St Theresa of Avila? No?
Well read them. There are great mystics in the Church such as Thomas
Merton. These are the works of the Masters.
Mormonism was dictated to a rather dubious character who taught that the
American Indians were the Lost tribes and lets all have loads of wives?
Is that what people wanted to hear or is that the "Word of God". Do not
defend it - this is not the place. Learn the capacity to know what is
true. You are not being attacked but being offered something. What you
are being offered is the capacity to be mistaken, so that you may become
right.
> I'm totally turned off by the concept of Mensa, I'm more interested in the
> lessons that children can teach me.
Love and Blessings on you Friend
Lobster (as child)
Date: Sun, 25 May 97 16:14:53 GMT
From: cen06681ATnospamcenturyinter.net
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: A dialog between a Guru and his Chela The Crow and the Rave
Message-Id: <M.052597.111453.92ATnospamcenturyinter.net>
I didn't know that this was a poetry forum!Brief and to the point, while
keeping on the subject of Kundalini would be helpful.
Date: Sun, 25 May 97 16:21:34 GMT
From: cen06681ATnospamcenturyinter.net
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: mormonism and K
Message-Id: <M.052597.112134.28ATnospamcenturyinter.net>
Maybe I missed it but I didn't see the word Kundalini, nor any message about
this subject in your communication, or is this the "gripe about organized
religion channel.I should think that there is so much more to explore while
keeping to the topic of Kundalini, instead of Mormonism.
Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 12:18:44 -0400
From: "Larry Killen" <mosiahATnospammindspring.com>
To: <cen06681ATnospamcenturyinter.net>, <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: A dialog between a Guru and his Chela The Crow and the Rave
Message-Id: <199705251621.MAA24299ATnospambrickbat8.mindspring.com>
Chill!
Maybe a little Prozac in the Sunday morning coffee would help
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> From: cen06681ATnospamcenturyinter.net
> To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
> Subject: Re: A dialog between a Guru and his Chela The Crow and the Rave
> Date: Sunday, May 25, 1997 12:14 PM
>
> I didn't know that this was a poetry forum!Brief and to the point, while
> keeping on the subject of Kundalini would be helpful.
Date: Sun, 25 May 97 16:42:21 GMT
From: cen06681ATnospamcenturyinter.net
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Pranayama discussion
Message-Id: <M.052597.114221.74ATnospamcenturyinter.net>
Tom
If you could, could you elaborate a bit more on the "nasal washing"
process,and maybe include a title or publication about it. Thanks Laura
Date: Sun, 25 May 97 17:52:00 GMT
From: cen06681ATnospamcenturyinter.net
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: JUST WHAT IS THE DEAL WITH KUNDALINI, ANYWAY?
Message-Id: <M.052597.125200.97ATnospamcenturyinter.net>
I have found that in looking for "ancient books" on any subject, that half the
message is in knowing how to read them. A good "Ancient Title" on
Kundalini,even probably the best, in my estimation, is th Bagavad Gita. This
book discusses the entire process and just exactly where it takes one, along
with the pit-falls - if one knows how to read it. Other writings include many
Catholic works and biographies on the saints, their passions and sufferings. I
am sure that there are many others. One other that I found helpful was "The
100,000 Songs of Milarepa", and a new biography of his life, put out I think by
Shambala Press Publishers.
Date: Sun, 25 May 97 17:52:08 GMT
From: cen06681ATnospamcenturyinter.net
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: JUST WHAT IS THE DEAL WITH KUNDALINI, ANYWAY?
Message-Id: <M.052597.125208.77ATnospamcenturyinter.net>
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