1997/05/24 12:04
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #247
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 247
Today's Topics:
Re: Egolessness
Re: The pattern
Re: Egolessness
ego
Re: The pattern
St Patrick and St Michael
Re: ego
dialog between a Crow and a Raven dialog between a Guru and a
Chela
A dialog between a Guru and his Chela The Crow and the Raven
Re: St Patrick and St Michael
Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 22:40:42 -0700
From: Morgana Wyze <morganaATnospambest.com>
To: GlasmeowATnospamaol.com
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Egolessness
Message-ID: <33867F5A.76ECATnospambest.com>
> At the time in my life when I was at the most in tune with the infinite, I
> was non-judgemental, forgiving, slow to anger, not easily offended, and had
> patience and love for everyone around me, including myself. I had no pride to
> be hurt, so I honestly didn't care about what others thought or said about
> me. I possessed total confidence because I had no insecurities.
>
> This was a gift from God, I don't know why it was given to me, how I lost it,
> or how to get it back.
>
Ronnie,
I can't speak for "orthodox" kundalini (is there A doctrine?? I
sincerely doubt it)
I've been there- and lost it. I was just thinking of that today, and so
your mail snagged my attention.
I remember the process of losing that grace, recognizing the loss, but
having to accept it for the time. I know that I still retain the core,
and with TIME and ATTENTION I can regain "paradise".
For me it was choosing to associate with people who hadn't been to
that place. Inviting them into my life, my living space and adjusting to
their ways. The innate defensiveness that created boundaries between the
divine and my true self had been put to rest, but because of life
circumstances (which I invited) the defensiveness resurrected and my
union was lost.
Such a fragile thing...I'm now slowly growing into losing
defensiveness (the need to defend ego, thus supporting it) while living
with criticism and the natural demands of life. Now when I again lay it
to rest it will be stronger than the hothouse flower it was. This is not
easy, but the reward of again realizing inner peace is strongly
motivating.
I hope this helps, best of luck.
Morgana
Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 22:49:44 -0700
From: Morgana Wyze <morganaATnospambest.com>
To: Larry Killen <mosiahATnospammindspring.com>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: The pattern
Message-ID: <33868178.1686ATnospambest.com>
Larry Killen wrote:
>
> But the last week has been insane. I don't believe I dramatize my life. I
> don't think I have too! But I feel I am caught between systems where I
> can't quite break from one to reach the other.
>
Larry,
My life is incredibly serene since I gave up DRAMA. It used to look a
lot like yours, and I decided that I didn't like it that way, so I had
to change it. It took me about three months to lay down drama, and a lot
of crazy things came up to test my decision.
No matter what happened, if I didn't like the outcome I didn't give
it energy. No discussion with friends, no thought. A lot of stuff went
down that I normally would have shared, like my car being broken into. I
just quietly got it fixed the next day and didn't tell a soul. I
completely dismissed it from my mind each time it popped (often!) into
my thoughts. I dwelled instead on good happenings.
What you focus on increases.
Morgana
Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 09:36:48 -0700
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
CC: jan.watsonATnospamsympatico.ca
Subject: Re: Egolessness
Message-ID: <33871920.1F0FATnospamdial.pipex.com>
GlasmeowATnospamaol.com wrote:
> When I used the term "ego" I didn't mean the sense of being a unique
> individual,separate from everyone else. I was curious about perfecting
> humility.
Humility is that quality which you try to hide from others. Humility is
secret bestowing. So generosity and humility are tied. Generosity is
giving what is needed or what you want to keep. Giving what you want to
give is a form of greed - you are trying to control your genorosity,
that is hardly genuine. Tithing and charity commitments are the lowest
form of generosity that should be done. The hardest thing to bestow is
time and attention. Humility is the capacity to listen, to be with
someone and genuinely feel that they are important and deserving. This
is were the dissolving of the ego comes in. The Kingdom of Heaven is
within but it is within others that you will find it, within yourself is
only the ego.
Keep company with the humble. The strength of their silence comes from
having more than can be said. Be the first to offer hope, to welcome the
stranger. Think the best of people. If you are a Christian find and read
the "Philokalia" and practise the "Jesus prayer". Follow your traditions
and teachings and try to understand them in a deeper way. Trust in God.
Most Kind Regards
Ed
Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 07:19:25 -0400
From: brenda.asterinoATnospamdragonbbs.com (brenda asterino)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: ego
Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19970524111925.00737670ATnospamdragonbbs.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
YES!!! to what David and Ed have commented.
Stop thinking. added comment: there is a difference between feeling and
emotions. Emotions are more into ego. Feelings are a word for when you are
more in touch with those inner understandings.
Ed said to trust in God. I agree. I have a problem with the warnings
sometimes that others have given because I think if you trust in God, you
don't have to worry about making mistakes with breathing, etc. I have done
many of these things naturally since I was a child... and I keep hearing the
warnings. And I don't completely understand. And I get concerned about
the fear it instills in the beginners. Respect is one thing, fear of
proceeding down a path is another. I only know of one written evidence of
God's Will. And that states that "none should perish". All paths take us
eventually to the same place. Some are much easier and more comfortable
than others. And there have been times that I learned more and faster
because I was on the harder path. Soooooo......
Any comments?
And I haven't heard anyone mention grounding... isn't landing as important
as flying?
Brenda
Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 11:42:41 -0400
From: "Larry Killen" <mosiahATnospammindspring.com>
To: <morganaATnospambest.com>
Cc: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: The pattern
Message-Id: <199705241541.LAA15519ATnospambrickbat9.mindspring.com>
Thanks,
I believe you are quite right. I am manifesting my destiny. I will work
with what you say.
Larry
> Larry Killen wrote:
>
> >
> > But the last week has been insane. I don't believe I dramatize my life.
I
> > don't think I have too! But I feel I am caught between systems where I
> > can't quite break from one to reach the other.
> >
> Larry,
> My life is incredibly serene since I gave up DRAMA. It used to look a
> lot like yours, and I decided that I didn't like it that way, so I had
> to change it. It took me about three months to lay down drama, and a lot
> of crazy things came up to test my decision.
> No matter what happened, if I didn't like the outcome I didn't give
> it energy. No discussion with friends, no thought. A lot of stuff went
> down that I normally would have shared, like my car being broken into. I
> just quietly got it fixed the next day and didn't tell a soul. I
> completely dismissed it from my mind each time it popped (often!) into
> my thoughts. I dwelled instead on good happenings.
> What you focus on increases.
> Morgana
Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 14:00:11 +0100
From: Tom Aston <yogi.tomATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: St Patrick and St Michael
Message-ID: <YqcjADAbZuhzEw9nATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
for a while i've been exploring St.Patrick, because i was born on
st.Patrick's day, have some Irish blood in me,
and he has a link with serpents, which brings to mind kundalini....
but can anyone explain to me why he drove the serpents out of Ireland
rather than simply taming them or killing them or making them dance....
and where did they go ?
is this a metaphorical description of Christian dualistic consciousness
and alienation from the shadow which gives rise to devil and satan and
dark forces etc which must be driven out rather than acknowledged and
transmuted....
so maybe St Michael is more suited to the needs of a Tantric Yogi
working with kundalini for he slew the dragon i believe rather than
driving it out....
can anyone tell me more ?
and are serpents and dragons similar things in this context ?
Yogi Tom
ps the point to this is that St Michael keeps on knocking at my door in
unexpected ways, but i'm not quite sure what he's telling me.....
--
Tom Aston
Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 10:43:34 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: brenda asterino <brenda.asterinoATnospamdragonbbs.com>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: ego
Message-ID: <3386B844.5164ATnospamintercomm.com>
> And I haven't heard anyone mention grounding... isn't landing as important
> as flying?
>
> Brenda
Brenda, The grounding comes from the realization that you are both a
spirit and mind/body. And, to proceed with k I recommend you ground
yourself into the heart center. This means it is te grounding station
the four higher centers. Some people tend to think this means you don't
take care of life and business, it really means the opposite, when it is
really connecting into knowing then you bring love, honesty, compassion,
etc. into your mind/body life. And, this frequency becomes grounded into
your personal reality, by the fruit you will know them. This then means
really acting in union with spirit, so that spirit as the Holy Spirit
not an embodied spirit uses you to touch lives and to allow God to love
him/herself through you and in others. This is a powerful grounding that
really puts you into a place to flow with k and her high part the Holy
Spirit as one. Gloria
Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 14:37:03 -0400
From: vic bonds <wildwingsATnospampeconic.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: dialog between a Crow and a Raven dialog between a Guru and a
Chela
Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970524143703.0069d8a0ATnospampeconic.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
The Crow and the Raven
Dialog between a Guru, and his loved One
Please forgive the incoherency at times,
because, this dialog is in the head, and heart,
and soul and,there is music with rhythm involved,
it reviews the data, and adds much more thoughts.
Hi there,
I have noticed the same thing, not only
on this list but on another list, the
kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, and around
certain friends who have this Indian
studies about them or they are Indian, so
my feelings of this moment is that the
Rainbow Tribes are being collected together,
I have no idea what Celestine Prophecy is about,
but my inner Guru Carlos Castaneda,told me to buy the book, even, though I
was reluctant,
I did, and gosh, I was surprised to find out,that, the
author was inspired by Carlos Castaneda, and then,
I wonder, just, how much, because, it is a comfort
and a bain, to know that he, CC intends, something for all his children of
Love...
I am sure that maybe, the author, of this book, Celistine Prophecy, may
have some idea, of what my condition described, below, is all about,
because of the nature of his Vision Quest...Big Smile... :}0- the Guru can
have a sense of humor...
(I know, it sounds Nuts, big time. But, it is happening to me. It takes
Courage, to be doing this path, I
thought, I was just becoming Scitzo, all of a sudden, out of the Deep Blue,
but,then, I realized that, if,
I was on the Shamanic Path, that, this naturally induced, perhaps, over a
long, long, period of time,
since birth, my Friend. It may have a Karmic nature
about it, this, is not clear to me, because, I don't have the Reality, yet,
on the nature of Karmic Relationships,with the undying Souls of Nature, the
Guru, theycould even be breeding our race, subtly,if you will, to have
proper "containers" or carriers of their Essence, to keep an Eagle's Eye
on the Resources of our earth, so, that when the time came to make the big
Changeover of Evolution, there would be some Gurus, and their Rainbow
Warriors with the Solution,
Resist and Desist! Stop and Start, which is a Way
of making Change, big time, for it is creating
energy to burn the rubbish and energy to create
the Phoenix of Love, the Spirit, anew...
And, I tell you I don't understand what that means,
but, it just means, I have alot more to learn about this. Learning the
Path of the Warrior of the Mind, and,with Heart, is hard, it is a
breathing, an in, and an out, it is the movement, and dexterity of the
mind, it is certain, to happen all the time, that you, may run
into One, more apt, than you, with the skills honed
up, more true. But, if He, or you don't let Him, destroy
you, or, your ego, entirely. Then, you have Mastered the day, and, while
you are licking your wounds, you can contemplate your station, of sitting
at the Guru's feet, while, He is Being moved Himself, by his Guru, and, so,
it goes up the line of Gurus, through the
wild blue yonder, a God, within a God,within a God, within a God for Infinity.
It, the God in you, starts growing in the (your) Devotee's Heart, moving
you around like a Chess piece,that is to be transformed
when it gets to the other side of the board,it could be
anything, you could imagine,or more, if you let
your guru, hold you inside , and squeeze you until
you hurt, for this makes you hold more energy that
is light and makes for more rapid transformation. You are learning the
trade,baby, but, I know you,~V~
or Ravin' Raven, the animal I named you, you are
the best of the litter,of mankind, because, you don't care too much, about
the critical thoughts of others, but, also don't want to break the reality
of the ones coming up, and, at the same time, you want to comfort
the ones, who, have had a wrestle with their inner
Angels, the Guru,don't dispair his eyes are still on you, because, I
am,told that the Guru maycome
and go in your life, or come heavily, and
then go, or come, when your are dying, or come not
at all, because, you are fine, and, or, not readyto be consumed by the love
of God, so,
this is interesting, because, He said to me He is with
me for eternity, and I wonder at this, and it gives me
great happiness, and mixed feelings, for, I have found that, I have been
with the Spirit of don Juan, all my life. So, Ideally, it is wonderful to
have a Guru,
but,it can be a true pain in the side, and the
ass, and let me take that word back, for, I am not
the originator of that word, or this writing, but, I will take credit for
the experiencing of it.You see,I have a choice in the matter, because I
care so much to be helping, the grand evolutionary march
of the centuries, I do this, because, I seem to be
maid to do it the Maidservant of the Heavens if you
will....If some people bravely lay claim to have
been trained in the arts of a Spiritual Master,
and they don't quite fit your mold,they dont care muchfor rejection, but
they love their Guru so much
they lose their false ego very very quickly. They are tested and tested
over and over until they have the skills that are needed for their kind of
God's Work on this earth.....One more thing if you seem to think
there is a disparity about the personality and
appearance of the inner Guru it is used to teach
the Chela and the desciple that God is in charge
and not you, and if He seems to have different
natures with men women and children of the
spirit it is because he is your father mother
sister and brother or whoever it was in your
life that was your Allie and this I say carefully
for when the Guru says it to his Baby sitting at
his feet he means Trouble with a big T. because
he will pick your weakest defense and pick and
pick on it like Odin's stomach where he is tied to a tree on the edge of a
cliff,or hung upside down like the tarot card of Surrender, the Hanged Man,
and the Eagle Hanging on by the Claws of His feet (theGuru)
gouged out his stomach, his ego....
One word, on where a Devotee stands in relationship
to his Guru, and God, if He is very very close, He will
seem incoherrent, according to His Spiritual abilities, both, inherited,
and developemental, and, if He is a bit away from his Guru, He will seem
more coherent
and clear minded.
Unless, He IS mature, in respect to being able to handle the Intensity of
the Quality of the Revelation given to Him, and the Infinity revealed by
the Guru of Love, and Doing it. But,on the other hand , a mature Devotee
can have His time of incoherency,
also,because, He is probably,happily, too close to His Guru,
and, then,perhaps, He will duck out of engagements, ha, and
He has a Love in-instead, with the line of the Gurus
both, in back, and ahead, and, this, may tell you how
the excess energy is used,maybe as Intended Prophecy for the future good
of the Universe, in all Ways.the altered shamanic states
of humans caused by drugs and or religion,or Guru, with the intensely lit
up voices that may lie deep in our subconscious have gotten loud enough for
me
to hear them via the raising of the mother
earth energy within us, stimulated perhaps by
the grace of our Guru and Master Teacher.
Now, we then learn to manage the noise, the jetliner
sound, the music, the chanting, the many voices,
the sound of waters, the legions of spirits, and
anything else, the Guru will conjure up and throw at you.
He rearranges all your inner furniture, and throws
alot out, He makes you look at things you don't want
to,that are painful. He causes you to do things which
can and will be embarrassing. and He trains you in the Magical and
Spiritual Arts, while counseling you,
and making Trouble, with a capital T, in your life at the same time.
He is like a Master playwriter, who invents the story
of your life, and stage directs it, too, making sure
you, play your part well.. He is God to you,and everyone else around you,
and this explains why we disciples take off and run, for we dont like to
see the life around us come crashing down, of our loved ones, just because
we are radio carriers of the Eagles of Love, He is cause over everthing
around you, now, what to do? Just endure it, and the best part yet, will
come to you, for you need a Master to help
you make your life on earth what ever it is, you
set out to do, if it is doing God's will, then heaven
and earth cannot help you, for the earth is a
jealous God too, and Pan is my witness, with all
the other ancient Gods, too.What God are you
thinking of?
Hades, Shiva, the Gods of distruction
and Rebirth by the Phoenix of Love,time with no beginning and an end.(The
Eagle and the Phoenix)
The Love of God, change...
or the Sustainer, Vishnu, Krishna, Christ, the
Lamb and the Lion, Peace, time with no beginning
and no end. the Stalking of God...
Or the God Of Eternity, Brahma, the Creator,
time with a beginning and no end.
Ganesh the creator of space and time,and earth.and
all things of abundance. The Intention of God.
Or, the God of Infinity, the land of Eternity
where there is no time, just Infinity.....
the Dream of God...
Ravin' Raven
~V~
Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 14:51:56 -0400
From: vic bonds <wildwingsATnospampeconic.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: A dialog between a Guru and his Chela The Crow and the Raven
Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970524145156.006a35ecATnospampeconic.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
The Crow and the Raven
Dialog between a Guru, and his loved One
Please forgive the incoherency at times,
because, this dialog is in the head, and heart,
and soul and,there is music with rhythm involved,
it reviews the data, and adds much more thoughts.
Hi there,
I have noticed the same thing, not only
on this list but on another list, the
kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, and around
certain friends who have this Indian
studies about them or they are Indian, so
my feelings of this moment is that the
Rainbow Tribes are being collected together,
I have no idea what Celestine Prophecy is about,
but my inner Guru Carlos Castaneda,told me to buy the book, even, though I
was reluctant,
I did, and gosh, I was surprised to find out,that, the
author was inspired by Carlos Castaneda, and then,
I wonder, just, how much, because, it is a comfort
and a bain, to know that he, CC intends, something for all his children of
Love...
I am sure that maybe, the author, of this book, Celistine Prophecy, may
have some idea, of what my condition described, below, is all about,
because of the nature of his Vision Quest...Big Smile... :}0- the Guru can
have a sense of humor...
(I know, it sounds Nuts, big time. But, it is happening to me. It takes
Courage, to be doing this path, I
thought, I was just becoming Scitzo, all of a sudden, out of the Deep Blue,
but,then, I realized that, if,
I was on the Shamanic Path, that, this naturally induced, perhaps, over a
long, long, period of time,
since birth, my Friend. It may have a Karmic nature
about it, this, is not clear to me, because, I don't have the Reality, yet,
on the nature of Karmic Relationships,with the undying Souls of Nature, the
Guru, theycould even be breeding our race, subtly,if you will, to have
proper "containers" or carriers of their Essence, to keep an Eagle's Eye
on the Resources of our earth, so, that when the time came to make the big
Changeover of Evolution, there would be some Gurus, and their Rainbow
Warriors with the Solution,
Resist and Desist! Stop and Start, which is a Way
of making Change, big time, for it is creating
energy to burn the rubbish and energy to create
the Phoenix of Love, the Spirit, anew...
And, I tell you I don't understand what that means,
but, it just means, I have alot more to learn about this. Learning the
Path of the Warrior of the Mind, and,with Heart, is hard, it is a
breathing, an in, and an out, it is the movement, and dexterity of the
mind, it is certain, to happen all the time, that you, may run
into One, more apt, than you, with the skills honed
up, more true. But, if He, or you don't let Him, destroy
you, or, your ego, entirely. Then, you have Mastered the day, and, while
you are licking your wounds, you can contemplate your station, of sitting
at the Guru's feet, while, He is Being moved Himself, by his Guru, and, so,
it goes up the line of Gurus, through the
wild blue yonder, a God, within a God,within a God, within a God for Infinity.
It, the God in you, starts growing in the (your) Devotee's Heart, moving
you around like a Chess piece,that is to be transformed
when it gets to the other side of the board,it could be
anything, you could imagine,or more, if you let
your guru, hold you inside , and squeeze you until
you hurt, for this makes you hold more energy that
is light and makes for more rapid transformation. You are learning the
trade,baby, but, I know you,~V~
or Ravin' Raven, the animal I named you, you are
the best of the litter,of mankind, because, you don't care too much, about
the critical thoughts of others, but, also don't want to break the reality
of the ones coming up, and, at the same time, you want to comfort
the ones, who, have had a wrestle with their inner
Angels, the Guru,don't dispair his eyes are still on you, because, I
am,told that the Guru maycome
and go in your life, or come heavily, and
then go, or come, when your are dying, or come not
at all, because, you are fine, and, or, not readyto be consumed by the love
of God, so,
this is interesting, because, He said to me He is with
me for eternity, and I wonder at this, and it gives me
great happiness, and mixed feelings, for, I have found that, I have been
with the Spirit of don Juan, all my life. So, Ideally, it is wonderful to
have a Guru,
but,it can be a true pain in the side, and the
ass, and let me take that word back, for, I am not
the originator of that word, or this writing, but, I will take credit for
the experiencing of it.You see,I have a choice in the matter, because I
care so much to be helping, the grand evolutionary march
of the centuries, I do this, because, I seem to be
maid to do it the Maidservant of the Heavens if you
will....If some people bravely lay claim to have
been trained in the arts of a Spiritual Master,
and they don't quite fit your mold,they dont care muchfor rejection, but
they love their Guru so much
they lose their false ego very very quickly. They are tested and tested
over and over until they have the skills that are needed for their kind of
God's Work on this earth.....One more thing if you seem to think
there is a disparity about the personality and
appearance of the inner Guru it is used to teach
the Chela and the desciple that God is in charge
and not you, and if He seems to have different
natures with men women and children of the
spirit it is because he is your father mother
sister and brother or whoever it was in your
life that was your Allie and this I say carefully
for when the Guru says it to his Baby sitting at
his feet he means Trouble with a big T. because
he will pick your weakest defense and pick and
pick on it like Odin's stomach where he is tied to a tree on the edge of a
cliff,or hung upside down like the tarot card of Surrender, the Hanged Man,
and the Eagle Hanging on by the Claws of His feet (theGuru)
gouged out his stomach, his ego....
One word, on where a Devotee stands in relationship
to his Guru, and God, if He is very very close, He will
seem incoherrent, according to His Spiritual abilities, both, inherited,
and developemental, and, if He is a bit away from his Guru, He will seem
more coherent
and clear minded.
Unless, He IS mature, in respect to being able to handle the Intensity of
the Quality of the Revelation given to Him, and the Infinity revealed by
the Guru of Love, and Doing it. But,on the other hand , a mature Devotee
can have His time of incoherency,
also,because, He is probably,happily, too close to His Guru,
and, then,perhaps, He will duck out of engagements, ha, and
He has a Love in-instead, with the line of the Gurus
both, in back, and ahead, and, this, may tell you how
the excess energy is used,maybe as Intended Prophecy for the future good
of the Universe, in all Ways.the altered shamanic states
of humans caused by drugs and or religion,or Guru, with the intensely lit
up voices that may lie deep in our subconscious have gotten loud enough for
me
to hear them via the raising of the mother
earth energy within us, stimulated perhaps by
the grace of our Guru and Master Teacher.
Now, we then learn to manage the noise, the jetliner
sound, the music, the chanting, the many voices,
the sound of waters, the legions of spirits, and
anything else, the Guru will conjure up and throw at you.
He rearranges all your inner furniture, and throws
alot out, He makes you look at things you don't want
to,that are painful. He causes you to do things which
can and will be embarrassing. and He trains you in the Magical and
Spiritual Arts, while counseling you,
and making Trouble, with a capital T, in your life at the same time.
He is like a Master playwriter, who invents the story
of your life, and stage directs it, too, making sure
you, play your part well.. He is God to you,and everyone else around you,
and this explains why we disciples take off and run, for we dont like to
see the life around us come crashing down, of our loved ones, just because
we are radio carriers of the Eagles of Love, He is cause over everthing
around you, now, what to do? Just endure it, and the best part yet, will
come to you, for you need a Master to help
you make your life on earth what ever it is, you
set out to do, if it is doing God's will, then heaven
and earth cannot help you, for the earth is a
jealous God too, and Pan is my witness, with all
the other ancient Gods, too.What God are you
thinking of?
Hades, Shiva, the Gods of distruction
and Rebirth by the Phoenix of Love,time with no beginning and an end.(The
Eagle and the Phoenix)
The Love of God, change...
or the Sustainer, Vishnu, Krishna, Christ, the
Lamb and the Lion, Peace, time with no beginning
and no end. the Stalking of God...
Or the God Of Eternity, Brahma, the Creator,
time with a beginning and no end.
Ganesh the creator of space and time,and earth.and
all things of abundance. The Intention of God.
Or, the God of Infinity, the land of Eternity
where there is no time, just Infinity.....
the Dream of God...
Ravin' Raven
~V~
Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 14:58:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: GlasmeowATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: St Patrick and St Michael
Message-ID: <970524145841_-2033486281ATnospamemout05.mail.aol.com>
Did St. Michael mix with dragons, too?
I only knew about St.George.
I'm fascinated with the symbolism in myth.
Later,
Ronnie Gee
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