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kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #225


kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 225

Today's Topics:
  Re: List Mystress Note/ Demons!.
  Unidentified subject!
  a little poetry for the weekend
  Re: This list
  Re: This list
  Re: Remaining on the list
  Re: A day in hell
  Re: Fw: (Fwd) Fwd: This is pretty cool!
  Re: Steve's Question #3
  The Power of Krishna
  Kosmic Lotus
  Re: Remaining on the list
  Phyllis' trademarking-forward
  sushumna nadi
  Re: Great Post Gloria--Gimme some Demons!.
  Re: Remaining on the list
Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 13:13:25 -0400 (EDT)
From: Nancy Kar <nkarATnospamfreenet.npiec.on.ca>
To: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
cc: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>,
 kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, LarryN3515ATnospamaol.com, rtrATnospammicron.net,
 fullpubATnospamthegrid.net, V37PopsATnospamaol.com
Subject: Re: List Mystress Note/ Demons!.
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Dear Gloria,

I don't understand what all the fuss is about.
I agree with you... you cannot have the light without the dark. One
defines the other. It's both sides of duality which is this world that we
live in. You cannot have God:in it's many names.. without the devil:in
it's many forms... which is even hard for
me to swallow because I try and see the good in all that I meet and see.
But some times the deep negativity just stares in your face and then takes
on some form. I've seen it in myself and in others, but have never had a
problems releasing these things... I usually qualify the releasing with go
back to your origin or ask the angels to take it away and use their
judgement as to where it needs to go.

I think some may go a little overboard on demonology though. I have
friends who everytime something negative happens they blame it on demons.
They are mainly heavily Christian based in their views though.

I also think that we cannot and will not ever understand all there is to
know about the heavenly heirarchy until we ultimately return there. All we
can do is stay close to spirit and learn as we are taught. That is why I
really appreciate posts on others experiences. We can talk about theiries
etc. but it is in experience that the real teaching is made.... healings,
channelings, realizations during meditations, dreams etc.

You cannot deal with K awakening without developing some sort of spiritual
beliefs to help define it and deal with it.
If not before .. then after..
I mean if your k energy is active then .. Wow! you're automatically put on
a spiritual fast track. There's no looking back:)

take care
namaste
WaterFall

 On Sat, 10 May 1997, Gloria Greco wrote:

> In the beginning I came on many times with posts on Divine Will and
> detachment which many reacted to because of bringing in God and 'thy
> will and not my will.' Each of you know me for these postings is that
> not right? SOMETIMES YOU LIKED IT OTHER TIMES YOU DIDN;T.

snipity snip....
     * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " *
    Looking through Lightworking eyes,
      Living through a Loveworking heart.
'Keep your face to the sunshine and you will not see the shadows' -H. Keller
     In lak'ech Nancy...WaterFall in spirit nkarATnospamfreenet.npiec.on.ca

    
Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 12:30:10 +0100
From: bobATnospamakasha.net (bob crowder)
To: "'Kundalini-l'" <Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Unidentified subject!
Message-ID: <01BC5E07.122751C0ATnospamBOB>

The Tao that can be told is not the eternal Tao.
The name that can be named is not the eternal name.
The nameless is the beginning of heaven and earth.
The named is the mother of ten thousand things.
Ever desireless, one can see the mystery.
Ever desiring, one can see the manifestations.
These two spring from the same source but differ in name;
   this appears as darkness.
Darkness within darkness.
The gate to all mystery.


>From Tao Te Ching

BobATnospamakasha.net
Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 14:35:15 +0100
From: vic bonds <wildwingsATnospampeconic.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: a little poetry for the weekend
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Here's a little love from me to you
 It is spiritual Love and it is nothing
nothing to you, I trust you trust nirvana
with in you to quickly make it into nothing
and put it in to the soup that God is cooking
 for us all, in fact the spirit is the biggest brew
 of them all, so, next time you want a nothing
to discard, take a quick look at your spirit
 and toss it to your God!!
Love LoveLoveLOveLoveLovelovelove
Raven' Raven

>----------------------------------------
>going through some old notes today i found these extracts from a DH
>Lawrence poem which shares something with kundalini transformation.....
>
>New Heaven and Earth
>
>God, but it is good to have died and been trodden out,
>trodden to nought in sour, dead earth,
>quite to nought,
>absolutely to nothing
>nothing
>nothing
>nothing
>
>Ha, I was a blaze leaping up!
>I was a tiger bursting into sunlight.
>I was greedy, I was mad for the unknown.
>I, new-risen, resurrected, starved from the tomb,
>starved frm a life of devouring always myself
>now here was I, new-awakened, with my hand stretching out
>and touching the unknown, the real unknown, unknown unknown
>
>...I am thrown upon the shore
>...the unknown, the new world
>
>regards
>
>Tom
>
>ps i enjoyed Lobster's admission of a chequered history of
>exclusion and persecution considerably - thankyou for that...
>
>when people start to persecute you the chances are you're making
>progress.....
>--
>Tom Aston
>
>
Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 14:47:52 -0400 (EDT)
From: Nancy Kar <nkarATnospamfreenet.npiec.on.ca>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: This list
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Thanks Peter...

There is so much wisdom in your words.

It hurts me to see people that I care about getting into power struggles.
When if they would just sit back and listen to each other with an open
mind
they might see that they are really in agreement..but just using different
words to say the same things.

Love
WaterFall

 On Sun, 11 May 1997, Peter Spear wrote:
> It is with great joy that i read all the posts to this list. To read of the
snip...
> This list is here so we can interchange love, feelings and emotions. Please
> be tolerant of each other and overlook the transgressions, lets not be
> negative and look for faults, lets find the positive things and dwell on
> them, by doing so we each will show our maturity.
-> Peter from New Zealand
>

     * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " *
    Looking through Lightworking eyes,
      Living through a Loveworking heart.
'Keep your face to the sunshine and you will not see the shadows' -H. Keller
     In lak'ech Nancy...WaterFall in spirit nkarATnospamfreenet.npiec.on.ca

    
Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 07:34:23
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: This list
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At 20:47 10/05/97 -0500, Zarathu wrote:
>Does anyone know how to get off this list?
>eric
  Eric has been removed.
  -List Mystress.

Mystress Angelique Serpent,
  Dominant Experiential Facilitator.
Website= http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent
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 "We've heard that a million monkeys at a million keyboards could produce
     the Complete Works of Shakespeare; now, thanks to the Internet, we know
     this is not true." Robert Wilensky, University of California
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 Vancouver, B.C., Canada. Officially the most beautiful city in the world.
Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 16:30:56 -0400
From: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net>
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Remaining on the list
Message-ID: <33762C80.1C20ATnospammail.snet.net>

Another domino falls:

Gloria, I came on the list while you were away.

When you returned I watched your stream of posts and felt

the heat of the heart.

That lesson of the heart touched me, and I told you so.

Admist a lot of intectual posturing, and clever

manipulation of words, on this list, you speak from where it matters.

Where ever your heart leads you, I thank you for reminding

me what this journey is really about.

A journey of the heart.

David
Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 13:36:04 -0700
From: Pamela <pamelaATnospamserv.net>
To: Tom Aston <yogi.tomATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: A day in hell
Message-ID: <33762DB4.67E9A36DATnospamserv.net>

Tom Aston wrote:
the opening of the throat chakra marks a need for a mystical
understanding that dissolves all our conditioned ideas about love,
spirituality and who we really are - that served us so well in the heart
chakra...
>
ultimately we will return to the heart,but only after the throat, the
gateway to the head chakras, has opened and we have seen into the empty
skull of Tantra and dissolved our old understanding.
>
just as the teaching of kill the buddha can come in handy when one has
outgrown rules, rituals and beliefs and even conceptual thought itself,
so can killing all conceptions of self and other, so in reality there is
no one to love and no one to be loved...which can all be rather alarming
at first ! but doesn't actually preclude the possibility of love, only
not in the way we are accustomed to experiencing it in our conditioned
experience......
>
negativity and weird stuff is not unusual with the throat chakra opening
especially if one is under pressure to respond to outer events like
computers crashing and bosses giving orders...the throat chakra really
wants us to turn within and discover the esoteric understanding that is
so hard to grasp unless one experiences it for oneself....
>
try and minimise the outer business of life for a while if
possible......
>
mantra and sound become very important with the throat as both bring a
deep but subtle understanding....this can be effortless and require very
little in way of practice of meditation or ritual....you may even feel
bad because it's all too easy and you seem to be the only person having
these experiences...
>
you may not necessarily like what you find out about yourself and others
initially, so best to keep it to yourself and kundalini yogis who
understand better....
>
> detachment may arise for a while as the throat can enable you to see
> through the appearances of normality into the underlying dilemmas of
> conditioning....
>
> don't ignore this process as one way or another it will have its way
> with you, believe your intuitions my friend, they are true !
>
> might help to write it all down as things can move very quickly and
> therapy can be a matter of DIY....
>
> regards Yogi Tom
>

Tom,
Just wanted to say this was very helpful to me. Thanks for sharing it!
Pamela

  .:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:.
     "Life does not happen to us,
 it happens from within us."
    ---- Mike Wickett
  .:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:.
Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 16:45:56 -0400
From: "Larry Killen" <mosiahATnospammindspring.com>
To: "Kundalini List" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>, <dorATnospamhlc.com>
Subject: Re: Fw: (Fwd) Fwd: This is pretty cool!
Message-Id: <199705112047.QAA14805ATnospambrickbat8.mindspring.com>

Thanks dor,
And I have no qualms with the sweet Mystress Angelique Serpent. She
watches over this list like a nurturing mother. I have seen lists go down
the tubes that were completely unmonitored for their are some who find any
free spirited talk of enlightenment as totally threatening. If being
'mildly' called to the carpet for an occasional transgression is the price
that must be paid to preserve such a wonderful forum, than so be it.

     \\\|///
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    --o00--(._.)--00o--
      Larry T. Killen
 TRW Systems Integration Group
 serving the Centers for Disease Control
 wk (770)488-7404
 hm (770)932-9169
 mosiahATnospammindspring.com
 killenlATnospamscis.acast.nova.edu
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  "Opinions expressed here are strictly mine but should be yours"

----------
> From: dorATnospamhlc.com
> To: Larry Killen <mosiahATnospammindspring.com>
> Subject: Re: Fw: (Fwd) Fwd: This is pretty cool!
> Date: Sunday, May 11, 1997 2:24 PM
>
> Maybe it didn't have anything to do with kundalini, and I thought it was
> pretty neat. Then again, I have had inner visions where I bet some of
them
> looked like some of those patterns, especially the zig-zag stuff, the
colors
> of the rainbow, too bad this wasn't in color, maybe others have seen this
as
> well. Just a passing thought! dor
>
>
> At 05:47 PM 5/10/97 -0400, you wrote:
> >----------
> >> From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
> >> To: Larry Killen <mosiahATnospammindspring.com>; kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
> >> Subject: Re: Fw: (Fwd) Fwd: This is pretty cool!
> >> Date: Thursday, May 08, 1997 12:01 PM
> >>
> >> At 10:42 09/05/97 -0400, Larry Killen wrote:
> >>
> >> <28k!!! OF FORWARDED OFF TOPIC SPAM NOISE PATTERN GIBBERISH
snipped!!!>
> >> Larry, What does this have to do with Kundalini?
> >
> >Ouch!
> >
> >
Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 16:56:00 -0400
From: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net>
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Steve's Question #3
Message-ID: <33763260.777ATnospammail.snet.net>

Karen Jean Armstrong wrote:
>
> Hi Steve and All:
>
> I am interested in the answer to Steve's question "Number 3". I believe my
> husband has a simular ability as Steve described with his girlfriend. My
> husband can help calm me when I am very upset by rubbing my back between
> the shoulder blades and I feel a tingling sensation there.

In Carlos Castenada's work, the area between the shoulder blades

is a point where the assemblage point can be moved.

When I say assemblage point, I mean your attention point.

There is a subtle energy field around our bodies, shaped like an

egg. It is possible to move our assemblage point to different

areas of the luminous egg. Each point on the egg is a new

perspective, world, or state of consciousness.

Don Juan would often shift Carlos's assemblage point by slapping

him on that point between the shoulder blades.
Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 16:38:44 -0500 (CDT)
From: Nothing Is <holi0007ATnospamitlabs.umn.edu>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: The Power of Krishna
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The Power of Krishna :

The veil is lifted,
as the absolute identity is revealed.
The laws of karma,
become more than a mundane idea.
The One has manifested itself as many,
and this cosmic game fades to bliss.
Many of us forgot
the laws of self in relation to the universe
as we tumble in the wheel of death/rebirth.
Awaken Krishna
and free oneself from the mundane microcosm.
The wings of cosmic justice
lie within the overtones as subtle experience.
Alas, the psyche becomes in tune with the supreme harmony!
    
bye, nothing is
Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 16:40:46 -0500 (CDT)
From: Nothing Is <holi0007ATnospamitlabs.umn.edu>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Kosmic Lotus
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95q.970511163907.658B-100000ATnospampiranha.itlabs.umn.edu>
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Kosmic Lotus :

The ego was only my lauchpad,
renounce worldly desires and prepare for space travel.
The fruit of one's action
lies within as a growing kosmic lotus.
     
Bye, nothing is
Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 16:56:59
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: Zensual2UATnospamaol.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Remaining on the list
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At 10:25 11/05/97 -0400, Zensual2UATnospamaol.com wrote:
<...>
>I have gotten alot of very valuable info here but I can not keep up with the
>volume of mail sent each day. I have limited time and space.. I wish there
>were an alternative
>method to receive Kundalini info.. like messageboards and newsletters.
<...> Perhaps you can tell me if there is an alternative to access the
>same type of info without being barraged with
>mail.. Other sites have messageboards.. do you?
>
  Hiya Zensual:
  I removed you already, didn't I? Just too efficient sometimes I guess.
  There is no message board, but there is a digest and list archives.
  With the digest, you get the mail in 32k packets as it accumulates. 1 or
3 fat posts per day, instead of 15 to 50.
  With the archives, you can retrieve stored digests at your own speed.
  The Archives from Dec/96 are stored with Reference.com, the address is in
my sig. I believe we are on digest #222 right now.
  I have not spent much time there, but I believe the archives are searchable.
  Also in my sig are instructions to subscribe to the digest.

  A newsletter is an interesting idea tho... the availability of a
newsletter that is only the juciest and most useful list bits might be a
way to help out those members who are forced off list by volume, but need
the info to deal with thier process.
  Snipping the digest and reposting it to a smaller group might be a good
option, or posting a weeks best mail on a website every week might be a
good idea, too.
  Thanks for the good ideas, Zensual!

    If you need more info, feel free to write to me at
kundalini-l-ownerATnospamexecpc.com
 Love and electric blue K. fire, List Mystress.
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Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 20:15:25
From: Melissa Shubha Smith <ganesha1ATnospamix.netcom.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Phyllis' trademarking-forward
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>Return-Path: <reikiATnospamxs4all.nl>
>From: Ton Driessen <reikiATnospamxs4all.nl>
>To: "'ganesha1ATnospamix.netcom.com'" <ganesha1ATnospamix.netcom.com>
>Subject: Phyllis' trademarking
>Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 15:39:57 +0200
>
>Hello, friend
>
>I received a message this morning regarding Phyllis' activities around
trademarking. I was initiated by her as a Master in 1986 and if you feel my
reaction is biased it is probably true. What is also true is that I am a
bit closer to the source of all that Phyllis writes and talks about. It is
true that she intends to trademark "Reiki", "The Usui System of Natural (or
"Reiki") Healing" and "Usui Shiki Ryoho", or rather that is already
happening and has happened throughout many countries of the world. Mind
you I am talking about a healing art, not the universal energy called
Reiki. But as you know many times people talk about Reiki, where they mean
the System.
>
>There is some history. Here in Holland an attempt to trademark was made
about ten years ago by some Masters. They had the same intention as what is
being put on Phyllis in this note from William Rand: to prevent who do not
seem to fit in the Usui System to use the logo and the words that go along
with it. Still ongoing today there is a legal dispute in Germany where a
Master called Jupp Hilger is trying to trademark everything, also for the
same reasons (or so he says). Phyllis and a lot of concerned Reiki-Masters
have gone to court about this, but as yet there is no conclusion. In both
these examples it was hard to distinguish who was to decide which one of
us was to be a Master in good standing order.
>
>Reiki-Masters across the world have different views on where Phyllis
stands and her position as a GrandMaster or Lineage-Bearer.
>I think I will set myself up here, if I say to you that you have to accept
and honour her as such.
>You will have to accept though, that it is through her that I came in
touch with what happened in Reiki-world. In 1986 there was no William Rand,
there were no Japanese Reiki-Masters from the lineage of Hayashi known in
the western world (I am not saying they did not exist). There was however
Phyllis, recognized and ackowledged Grandmaster by all those Masters who
were initiated by Hawayo Takata, except for Barbara Brown, founder of the
American Reiki Association. I have come to know her as a strong
personality, who has a deep commitment to the Usui System of Reiki Healing.
>I have been and still am a critical observer of her actions during the
bigger part of her path as a Master. We have had our differences of
opinion, and will continue to have them in the future. But our relationship
is alive and kicking so to speak.
>
>Phyllis knows and acknowledges that trademarking of the word Reiki and the
other phrases can happen in some countries and cannot in others. She
intends to support and safeguard the System, entrusted to her in the early
80's. I am not sure that it is about wanting to be in control, as is
suggested by William Rand. I see it as taking responsibility for the
System. I am certain it is not about money either, like William Rand
suggests. I am truly sick and tired to hear to these assumptions. It is a
case of calling the kettle black. What is true for me is that I would never
entrust anything as powerful and beautiful as Reiki to someone, who is not
willing to do a big exchange in energy (not just money!).
>
>On a more personal note: I too feel it is time to do something about the
widespread unclarity and rampant developments of the Usui System of Reiki
Healing. In her valiant efforts I will support Phyllis by doing what I can
and trying to be a critical observer.
>I have seen and heard many cosmic reframes about those who consider
themselves Masters in The Usui System of Reiki Healing.
>This System has certain rules and guidelines. Most of those who wish to
keep Reiki "free" (William Rand's way of creating an atmosphere?) do not
live up or have heard even from these rules and guidelines. Masters do not
have to do this, but they would be in their integrity not to call
themselves Masters in the Usui System of Reiki Healing.
>And that is what this whole thing is about, as far as I can see...
>
>I have a wish and a dream: I wish that through all of this we come closer
and more aware and respectful of each others existence. I dream of a world
where Reiki is as common as air and where the proper use is no point of
argument.
> You are welcome to relay this message to anyone you want.
> I wish you well,
>
>
>Ton Driessen, Reiki-Master in the Usui System of Natural Healing
>
>Trintel 55,
>1141 DL Monnickendam, Holland
>Phone 0031-299-657499
>
>
>
>
REIKI Master Melissa Shubha Smith
The REIKI Lightway - The Heart is The Hub of All Spaces, Go There and Roam
Om Namah Shivaya

webpage:
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Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 20:44:25
From: Melissa Shubha Smith <ganesha1ATnospamix.netcom.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: sushumna nadi
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) """ I have heard some people describe their kundalini process, and they
include a reference to their karma being cleared. What do they mean by
this precisely? How is it experienced (ie how do they know this is
happening)? And finally, by what mechanism does K clear karma? how does
this happen?""""

SAMSCARAS

The Central Channel of the Etheric Body is known as the "Sushumna Nadi. On
Either side of this central channel from, which all energy centers known as
chakras eminate from, are 2 other channels that intertwine around the
sushumna nadi. They are known as the ida and pingala. They are white and
red...often seen by seekers in the sahasrara chakras or crown chakras as
little feet...or padukas...

In this central channel...the sushumna nadi....are what is know as all the
seeds of our karmas from all our life times....these "seeds" are known as
samscaras. The samscaras are little seeds waiting to sprout so we can
experience accumulated karma while living in the physical form.(this is the
learning experience called life)

When our Kundalini Shakti or Kundalini Energy is activated in the
mudalahara or base chakras ...it moves up through the sushumna nadi. The
energy of the Kundalini activates an accelerated force that "burns" or
roasts the seeds of some of our karmas in a dynamic way. The way this often
happens is that "Likes" are attracted to "Likes"...in other words...people
with the same types of "samscaras" are drawn together. The energy of the
"like or same" type samscaras (or seeds of karma)...helps to burn the karma
or clear the karma from the sushumna nadi therefore purifying the spiritual
aspirant. This is turn clears all the subtle nadis in the physical body as
well as the larger energy centers known as chakras. This can manifest as
"kriyas" which are spiritual, physical, mental, or emotional purifications
of the samscara. Often in kundalini awakening we will see interesting and
unusual (as alot on this list can attest to) manifestation of our karma
becoming purified.
That is why its thought to have a strong spiritual master with the
grace/lineage/mission to guide one thru the spiritual path of awakened
kundalini conciousness. These purifications can be very confusing and
mysterious to those that do not have guidance.
Shaktipat...is the spiritual energy that awakens the spiritual aspirant. To
activate and accelerate the kundalini of persons ...without the proper
background is a mistake and one that could harm others unwittingly.
Therefore it is important for spiritual seekers to be discriminating in
thier choice of a kundalini master.

I can contribute to
this project in a unique way (nobody else has mentioned this yet..)

 Anyhow, I have a brief concept here for it: pages with graphics
and guided meditations for moving energy, aligning chakras, and awakening
kundalini. One such page might have a series of seven images, which are
designed to work on each chakra in turn. And finally, one symbol which we
all choose, which we all empower with our energies, to awaken kundalini.
Also included will be various exercises contributed by anyone here who
wishes to. Even if this doesn't awaken K, it will sure be an interesting
experiment with spirtuality on the web. Please let me know if anybody can
help with this.

I would advise the person who wrote the above question who suggested in his
letter that he had ability to activate and awaken kundalini thru the
chakras.....really examine his motivations and background...If you had to
ask how karmic purification occurs....then....you are not ready to align
chakras, or awaken kundalini. This would be irresponsible. Be careful.

Yours on the Path,
Ganesha

REIKI Master Melissa Shubha Smith
The REIKI Lightway - The Heart is The Hub of All Spaces, Go There and Roam
Om Namah Shivaya

webpage:
http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/3035

e-mail:
ganesha1ATnospamix.netcom.com

IRC: Server: irc.superlink.net Channel: #bridge Nick: Ganesha
Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 14:01:37 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: Mad Coyote joe <joeATnospamflarity.com>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Great Post Gloria--Gimme some Demons!.
Message-ID: <3375C331.4C0DATnospamintercomm.com>

Mad Coyote joe wrote:
>
> Gloria Greco wrote:
> >
>
> > NOTE:
> > I DON'T KNOW THAT I WILL STAY ON THE LIST, IT VERY WELL MAYBE THAT WHAT
> > I BRING IN DOESN'T FIT WITH THE INTENTIONS THAT MYSTRESS HAS FOR THE
> > LIST.
> Gloria,
>
> Dear Joe,
 Thanks for your nice responce, I'm just going to see how things come
together. Nothing ever happens that isn't for a specific reason.
Mystress and I are talking so it is really in God's hands. I have no
problem cutting the posts, I had just been told no to before. Gloria
Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 14:09:21 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: david.bozziATnospamsnet.net
CC: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Remaining on the list
Message-ID: <3375C500.7E96ATnospamintercomm.com>

David Bozzi wrote:
>
> Another domino falls:
>
> Gloria, I came on the list while you were away.
>
> When you returned I watched your stream of posts and felt
>
> the heat of the heart.
>
> That lesson of the heart touched me, and I told you so.
>
> Admist a lot of intectual posturing, and clever
>
> manipulation of words, on this list, you speak from where it matters.
>
> Where ever your heart leads you, I thank you for reminding
>
> me what this journey is really about.
>
> A journey of the heart.
>
> David

David,
 Living in the heart is what this world needs more then anything else,
just the people on this list would change the world. It is something
that clearly manifests change because one does nothing but accept and
flow with lfe as it comes down. A dear friend of mine ho I've worked
with for many years has recently been lifted into the high energy stream
of Divine Will, she says, its like starting all over again because it
is so very different, and yes you do know that it is home and where you
belong. Gloria

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