1997/05/09 19:15
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #220
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 220
Today's Topics:
on enlightenment
Re: Kundalini Kindergarten
Poem by Mary Oliver
Kundalini and dreams
Re: Kundalini Kindergarten-welcome Peggy!
Re: Manic-depression
Re: Prozac and K
Re: Fw: (Fwd) Fwd: This is pretty cool!
driving, getting high, discrimination and Yogi Bear
Kundalini and dreams
Re: Out-of-body experiences/ Demons!.
Re: Manic-depression
Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 12:12:55 -0700
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: on enlightenment
Message-ID: <33737737.6661ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
maeror wrote:
> > in practice though, i certainly know what enlightenment isn't !!!
>
> Low fat cheese.
Low fat cheese is the embodiment of enlightenment.
Anything that is low is both meek and humble.
Fat is of course unneeded atachment and to be low in fat is further
postive proof of its advanced symbolic value.
Cheese is fermented milk. It is milk that has been refined. Milk
represents the bounty and Love of the Universal Mother. When it is
seasoned or fermented it becomes a stronger more concentrated essence.
Therefore low fat cheese is the embodiment of enlightenment.
> I know that a snake is not the rodent it eats... or is it?
Just as the rodent feeds the snake. So does kundalini burn away
imperfections. We are as you know what we eat.
> For example, I do not believe in God. I believe in a creator, but not the
> Creator. This excludes any possibility of me praying to a deity. I know
> this to be correct, but also incomplete.
Pray to yourself then. However prayer is not needed.
For Now
PEACE to You
most kind regards
Lobster
Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 13:46:11 -0700
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Kundalini Kindergarten
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PEGLUMPKINATnospamaol.com wrote:
> Greetings, Everyone
> I thought a chakra was something you served with curry. The only Yogi I´m
> familiar with had a sidekick named Boo Boo. Is there someone who doesn't
> mind being dragged down from loftier thoughts to my "nuts and bolts" level?
> I´m truly a stranger in a strange land.
As I have never had a lofty thought in my life I am happy to welcome you
and wish you luck. Things do stabilise. There is no need to practice
anything unless it feels right to so do. Remember you are being
protected by the very force manifesting. It is quite possible that you
have more to share with us than we with you.
The world is always coming to an end. The end of world feelings are a
projection of the end of your old being.
Await the stabilisation and normalising of your experience before doing
anything dramatic. You are in a sensitised state. Make good use of.
There is much to learn. Everything can teach you. Keep the humour.
Most Kind Regards
Lobster
Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 15:30:11 -0700
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Poem by Mary Oliver
Message-ID: <3373A573.4272ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
The Summer Day
Who made the world?
Who made the swan, and the black bear?
Who made the grasshoppper?
This grasshopper, I mean---
the one who has flung herself out of the grass,
the one who is eating sugar out of my hand,
who is moving her jaws back and forth instead of up and down---
who is gazing around with her enormous and complicated eyes.
Now she lifts her pale forearms and thoroughly washes her face.
Now she snaps her wings open, and floats away.
I don't know exactly what a prayer is.
I do know how to pay attention, how to fall down
into the grass, how to kneel down in the grass,
how to be idle and blessed, how to stroll through the fields,
which is what I have been doing all day.
Tell me, what else should I have done?
Doesn't everything die at last, and too soon?
Tell me, what is it you plan to do
with your one wild and precious life?
-- Mary Oliver
Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 13:45:56 -0500 (CDT)
From: Nothing Is <holi0007ATnospamitlabs.umn.edu>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Kundalini and dreams
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95q.970509133826.29050A-100000ATnospampiranha.itlabs.umn.edu>
Anyone have any ideas regarding lucid dreaming and K awakening? Do the
two correlate closely? Can one spark the other? I have a hard to
remembering my dreams, its kinda like remembering small fragments from a
"drunk blackout", let alone becoming conscious in my dreams. But I find
analyzing my dreams with thinking of archetypes seen I can some how
subconsciously put something together, even though on the conscious level
it is irrational.
thanks,
nothing is
Growing Cosmic Lotus Stand on Your Street Corner
Date: Fri, 9 May 97 14:51:46 EDT
From: chelseaATnospamsuperaje.com (Dominic & Maureen Marando)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Kundalini Kindergarten-welcome Peggy!
Message-Id: <9705091851.AA12638ATnospamsuperaje.com>
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Peggy wrote:
> I´ve never meditated or done yoga.
I thought a chakra was something you served with curry. The only Yogi I´m
familiar with had a sidekick named Boo Boo. Is there someone who doesn't
mind being dragged down from loftier thoughts to my "nuts and bolts" level?
I´m truly a stranger in a strange land.
......Howdy stranger! I'm fairly new here as well. This whole thing also
caught me by surprise. What's a girl to do? I don't hang out with any yogi's
either. I'm kinda a boring kundalini person :-). I have two kids, just
turned 34 (UGH!) and run a successful dance studio. Oh ya....and in my spare
time I deal with this incredibly mystical spiritual transformation. ;-)
>Then, in case anyone is
gathering data about spontaneous kundalini activation, I´ll tell of my own
experience and would love to hear from anyone who has taken a similar ride.
........I'm on that similar ride!! Did a bit of yoga cause I knew it was
good for you...never HEARD of kundalini......until.........ZAP! Gotcha! It
really surprises me that there are people sitting around meditating actually
wanting this to happen!!
>First question. In my initial episode, the vibrations seemed to be at a
slower frequency and more violent than subsequent occurrences, which were
much faster and more delicate vibrations. At first, it was like trying to
start a car in third gear, but now it´s more like being invaded by thousands
of tiny bees. Is this progression from slower to faster vibrations something
you all had in common in the beginning?
...........Mine seems to be different all the time....here's what I
hear...under a waterfall..a 747 in my head.......ringing, buzzing,
electronic signals of different tones........and like someone is starting
and stopping a blender in my head....yeehaa..fun, fun, fun,...especially
when you never heard of this stuff. Took me about 3 years from first rush to
hear the word kundalini (whew! this is real)...you are lucky you have found
out about this list!
>Second question. When the visual imagery manifests (I call it the "light
shows"), are there referents for the symbols? In other words, is there a
lexicon of the lights? Do we look for the meaning or just sit back and enjoy
the show?
...........I enjoy the show, wonder if I'm going insane....then enjoy the
show again......meaning? Probably. What is it? Beats me :-)
>Third question. Is there a kundalini "honeymoon" period? Is eventual
suffering part of the package? I´ve read accounts of painful and tormented
kundalini bouts.
...........My "torment" was always in the beginning becuase I had no clue
what was happening. Once I heard and learned I was not the only one, I
realized I am a tiny teeny part of a human spiritual awakening on this
planet...little me! Cool eh? Sometimes symptoms are a pain...but like
pregnancy, you put up with them because it is for a greater good. Make
sense? I haven't had anything real scary happen. Most is pretty cool.
(sorry, I say cool alot. I actually know more words, former journalist you
know, it's just that to me, "cool" fits for me. I don't get too heavy about
all this)
>Fourth question. I´ve noticed that the vibrations intensify during
spiritually oriented conversations or thoughts.
......Ya that happens...I guess something about focusing your energy on it?
>Fifth question. If the kundalini activates in an untrained person, is it
advisable to undertake a new discipline? Unless you want to count
spacing-out on the freeway as a form of meditation,
.......HEY!!!!!! me too!!!!!!! I thought I was the only one this happened
too-------does anyone on this list know why sometimes when you're driving
it's like your suddenly not in your body anymore?????? Very weird feeling?
I'm afraid of a car crash!!!!! Sometimes when this happens I think about
letting my "higher self" take over the wheel----I say "this car carries
precious cargo" in my mind and I usually can manouever the vehicle to my
destination!!!!
> I don´t meditate, do
yoga, or in anyway harness my rowdy brain. Does everyone else practice
Eastern disciplines? Is growth limited without them? Is the idea to tame
the kundalini or to let it have its way with you?
.......Peggy, with my hectic schedule I don't have time to practice
disciplines from any direction. But kundalini comes anyway!
>Last question for now. Has the kundalini crowd ever exchanged thoughts or
insights about the interpretation by J.M. Pryse that the Apocalypse of the
Book of Revelation is an oblique reference to kundalini rising through the
"beasts" or chakras? I came across an excerpt in John White´s Kundalini,
Evolution, and Enlightenment, and it helped assuage my own feelings that
human life on Earth would in fact be coming to an end very shortly. The same
John White, in his book Pole Shift, concluded that the "horrific visions of
world destruction… seem to be reflections of the collective psyche of our
time, which is generating its own images of planetary death and regeneration
for which the sensitive souls of our era serve as carriers." Is anyone else
grasping at this idea for comfort?
............planetary death? To our old ways of believeing and behaving...I
hope so.......literally? Like we get blown to oblivion or pole-shifted out
into the galaxy.......not in my books!! And I am adamant about this one
thing! Don't get literal on me with the book of revelations. Now that's
scary!!!!!!!!!!
> Now I am seeing that
pesky end-of-the-world scenario as more symbolic of transformation.
.........YES, YES, THAT'S IT.....SYMBOLIC..WHEW! YOU SCARED ME THERE FOR A
WHILE!
..........Your symptoms sound wonderful. Everyone's are different. There is
no exact code. I have had many similar to yours.
If you would like to talk more, you are welcome to e-mail me at:
chelseaATnospamsuperaje.com
Welcome! I'm sure you will feel a part of the happenings of this list
(strange as they are sometimes ;-).
Mo
Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 13:49:12 -0700
From: Ken McFarland <kenmATnospamOREGON.UOREGON.EDU>
To: morganaATnospambest.com
Cc: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Manic-depression
Message-id: <1.5.4.32.19970509204912.0066ed40ATnospamoregon.uoregon.edu>
At 12:12 AM 5/9/97 -0700, Morgana Wyze wrote:
>Anyone know of any natural methods to balance out manic depression ??
>My husband uses pot and alcohol -
Morgana,
Research shows that alcoholics and bipolar folks are low on
Gamma-Aminobutyric Acid (GABA).
I've been thinking about what causes mood swings, especially bipolar, and it
reminded me to recomend your husband try L-glutamate or L-glutamic acid
(same thing). This is a natural amino acid that is the precursor for GABA,
the most common neurotransmitter in the body. It is an inhibitor
neurotransmitter system.
I know a number of people who tend to be emotionally labile or anxious who
are helped by supplementing this system. Unlike taking a drug, by
supplementing with the precursor amino acid, your body will only use what it
needs to bring the GABA system up to normal levels.
You can get it over the counter at your health food store and I've never
heard of side effects.
Sincerely,
Ken
Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 17:20:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: RWilli2ATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Prozac and K
Message-ID: <970509172005_741830164ATnospamemout14.mail.aol.com>
Tom, I feel deep down inside you are absolutely right about mind altering
drugs. However, I am one of those who could not seem to alter my brain
function, thinking on my own. My fearful and negitive thoughts were so
overwhelming to me that I was in a constant state of panic. When I thought
about it, I would rather take a pill to ease my mind so that my body could
calm down and I might return to a state of balance. Then I can begin to work
on doing this myself. I hope to be on the drug Paxil, which is an SSRI
(serotonin reuptake inhibitor) as little time as possible. I am a very
responsible person who prides herself on doing things naturally, feeling good
naturally. It is very hard for me to resort to taking a drug. However, like
I said before, I could not do it on my own. There is a very real medical
problem, where people have a chemical imbalance in the brain. Just as a
diabetic would take insulin, so to these people need a support system, drug
if you will.
So I ask for your support and all others here, that I will learn how to
control my brain function, if that is possible.
I practice yoga daily, meditate, relax etc. so I have and always will keep
doing my best to help myself.
Regards,
Roseann
Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 16:01:24
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: "Larry Killen" <mosiahATnospammindspring.com>, <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Fw: (Fwd) Fwd: This is pretty cool!
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970508160124.2caff320ATnospamdomin8rex.com>
At 10:42 09/05/97 -0400, Larry Killen wrote:
<28k!!! OF FORWARDED OFF TOPIC SPAM NOISE PATTERN GIBBERISH snipped!!!>
>Join us on #Authors on lowell.ma.us.undernet.org:
>Where the Purpose of the #Authors channel is:
>To provide a supportive environment for writers --
>a place to relax as well as celebrate one another's successes.
>
>----------
>
Larry, What does this have to do with Kundalini?
You write a lot of good posts and I am sure you had good intent but the
result is still 29K of off topic noise going out to 300+ people, many of
whom have not the resources to support such a huge waste of bandwidth.
Members, let us gather to pray with love and light that whatever demon
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list guidelines, which are for the common good, be integrated or excorcised.
That this temporary madness that caused him to abandon all ideas of
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struggle gamely to keep up with K.list, pass from him and leave him with a
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For the good of all and harm to none, so mote it be, amen, etc.
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Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 23:24:26 +0100
From: Tom Aston <yogi.tomATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: driving, getting high, discrimination and Yogi Bear
Message-ID: <QuRhREAaQ6czEw00ATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
calling all freeway meditators....
driving with kundalini can be bad for your health and that of
others....i've had three minor accidents while somewhere off into the
astral plane in London traffic, and once attempted to drive with my eyes
shut at about 40 mph when shakti took over my whole being in a very
powerful way...fortunately i remembered within seconds that it's better
to keep them open in general....
also cycling can be dangerous too....i have often felt an irresistible
urge to use this energy to race along at high speed which can be a
liability on London streets where cyclists are not rated highly by
drivers....
i suppose the most likely outcome is for a kundalini driver to meet a
kundalini bike rider on a freeway and they're both off into the heavens
before they know there's been a collision.....
also, on discriminatory language against kundalini "victims"...
the best one i've had was "helium head" as i was quite literally just
floating off into blissful ethereal states while in the office and one
woman couldn't help but notice as i would simply stop talking or doing
whatever i was involved in with her and sit absolutely still, lost in
bliss....she actually found the whole thing hilarious so it was meant
kindly i think....but another woman called me "a total airhead" once -
and this was not meant so kindly - because i literally just floated off
in the middle of conversations with her and it almost felt like i was
going to take off...but i think she was offended that i wasn't
interested in her conversation...
another question tht has popped up from time to time is "Why are you
laughing ?" which sounds fine, except here it was as if this was not
allowed or a sign of madness...kundalini would just make everything seem
so absurd nothing else to do except start belly laughs....
i once even woke up in the middle of the night roaring with laughter
when the heart chakra was blissfully pierced by kundalini in my sleep
and even my girlfriend who was beside me thought i was totally
nuts...."What sort of person wakes up in the middle of the night
laughing ?" she asked...should have answered "A Kundalini Yogi"
i was also known as the "mystical marxist" as a philosophy and politics
student - this was meant as a somewhat deprecatory description for
academic contradictions as shakti veered between the root chakra (and
marxist materialism) and the throat chakra (and mysticism)....
but also, as "the chameleon" because i - meaning shakti - was never very
interested in holding onto one line of argument or opinion as one is
expected to do in university hothouses and would simply agree with
people looking for an argument if it didn't seem very important to
shakti - so no one could figure out what my line of argument on academic
questions was over a period of time........another great loss to the
evolution of human thought and political opinion....
i also suffered stigma as a vegetarian in a carnivorous college and the
roster keeper would yell out "ONE VEGETARIAN" AS I ENTERED THE HALL and
everyone would turn their heads and stare at me as if i had two
heads....or vegetarian was a term of abuse....
then the Christian Union added to my sense of siege when i was placed
high on the hit list for conversion to the TRUE PATH due to my interest
in yoga and Oriental Philosophy which was seen as satanic and the anti-
Christ....."Hindu" became a term of abuse for a while....
and even an innocent request to a Christian rock band for a rendition of
Led Zepplin's Stairway to Heaven (which uses pagan images i believe,
although i didn't know this at the time) as seen as another symptom of
occult devil worship....
perhaps the kundalini list is the beginning of the fight back !
so remember, first they came for the helium heads, then the vegetarians,
then the Yogis, then the pagan rockers...it could be YOU next so
FREE KUNDALINI NOW !
EQUAL RIGHTS FOR YOGIS !
but, as Jim Morrison sang so sweetly, keep your eyes on the road and
hands upon the wheel....and your spirit in your body....drive safely -
it helps if you are there......
Drive safely
This has been a public information announcement
regards
Yogi Tom (who sold his car and his bike a while back now as they were
just getting too much of a liability...which just leaves crossing the
road - and believe it or not shakti once distracted my attention so much
that i almost got knocked down....so who knows when the grim reaper will
strike?)
also, Yogi Bear strikes me as a very good role model for anyone
unacquainted with the East.....he's friendly, straightforward, honest,
nurtures his inner child's voice (in the form of BooBoo) knows how to
lose gracefully and doesn't mind being the butt of others' jokes....as
far as i recall, but i haven't seen him on TV for 20 years....anyone
with clearer memories ?
--
Tom Aston
Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 19:52:18 +0100
From: vic bonds <wildwingsATnospampeconic.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Kundalini and dreams
Message-Id: <23521872904279ATnospampeconic.net>
Hi!!!
I really believe that the k energy is very very related to lucid dreams,
the energy goes up to the head, and the rest of the body has so much
maybe too much energy, and the extra stuff in the head builds up
gets hot, gives very intense dreams, it is good to explore other
realities at these times, and it is very very good to develope ones
visualization skills while dreaming. Now, when one goes deep into
meditation or dreaming, the dreams are very vivid and intense, so
the trick is to keep aware while going deep, and Carlos Castaneda's
book on The Art of Dreaming explains alot, also look up alt. Dreams
Casaneda on the usenet, and look up Casaneda's home site on the www
called Clear Green!
~V~
>Anyone have any ideas regarding lucid dreaming and K awakening? Do the
>two correlate closely? Can one spark the other? I have a hard to
>remembering my dreams, its kinda like remembering small fragments from a
>"drunk blackout", let alone becoming conscious in my dreams. But I find
>analyzing my dreams with thinking of archetypes seen I can some how
>subconsciously put something together, even though on the conscious level
>it is irrational.
>
>thanks,
>nothing is
>Growing Cosmic Lotus Stand on Your Street Corner
>
>
Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 19:17:54
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Out-of-body experiences/ Demons!.
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970508191754.30df78daATnospamdomin8rex.com>
Going thru my outbox, clearing unfinished biz.
How bout a thread on Demons?
At 22:19 28/04/97 +0100, Gloria Greco wrote:
>Gloria Greco wrote:
>>
>>
>> You are going to meet spirits all along the way, light and dark,
>> Mistress doesn't seem to believe there is such things as lower force
>> energies, she wouldn't say that if she had lived through my life and
>> experience. And, if there was no lower spirits why the demon trap?
<snipped!>
Did I hear my name being called?
Why yes, and presumptions on my life experience, too.
I believe the "demon trap" was mentioned by the fake illuminati witch
satanist con artist christian propagandist whom you found so charming...
nuff said, eh?
As for my expreience of demons, one of my slaves was posessed just a few
weeks ago.
He told me he'd had a demon once, years before ...showed up during a
breathwork excercise, tried to strangle his girlfriend... they went to a
healer and had it excorcised, with Quad Archangel power. he thought it was
gone.
He feared that it wasn't, tho... So this demon manifested, snarling hate
and insisting that my slave was not present... It looked remarkably like
the Mad Trapper... Veeery spooky!! I managed to appear to stay calm and
unafraid.
Fortunately ;) it waited until my slave had asked to be put in his
favorite leather straightjacket to show up, so it was securely bound and in
no danger of attacking me.
...probably beause my slave has seen my unconscous K. fired autopilot
judo in action, mildly, and is of the opinion that anyone who actually
tried to harm me might end up killed before my brain has time to think
about it. I don't agree with him, but don't fully understand the seamless
quick deadly effective autoresponse I seem to possess. Perhaps it posesses
me.....ooo ha ha ha. 8)
So I talked to it, and I gave it love. And it didn't have much to say,
mantras of hatred and rage, I looked it in the eye and asked it if my slave
had to give it love so it could be integrated, and it said yes and
disappeared. I think it vanished because I'd caught it out, the poor little
splintered personality bit.
Spent the next few hours telling my very frightened slave jokes until he
fell asleep. I spent the rest of the night after that sleepless questioning
house guardian spirits and angels about why they decided it was a good time
for me to have that experience, and where the beastie had come from.
my slave had brought it from inside of himself, by permission os
guardians and higher self, coz it was time for me to deal with it. Cool!
Two days later I led my slave through an integration exercise, a
conversation with the demon in his head, giving it love and asking it's
purpose. It's name was rage and it was born out of a childs fear and
helplessness.
I directed him into engaging his creative self to come up with a better
means of inner defense so that rage could retire. Gave rage love and
appreciation for a job well done, no longer needed...rage had been there,
to keep him from being hurt.
He felt it melt back into the whole with a sigh of relief. Must be tough
to be a demon. he has commented since on a sense of inner peace he has
never known before.
Funny, ya know the demon said I know nothing about darkness, compared to
what it knows about darkness, too. (ROTFL!! perhaps that was your demon
speaking, Gloria...perhaps we mirror each other's demon...)
And when I thought about it later, I realized that it was right. If
darkness is fear and lack of love and separation, I have never experienced
that to the depths of fear and loneliness that it must have been
experienced by that poor frightened lonely split off fragment of self that
my slave had labelled a demon and tried to reject.
My thanks to Christina Grof, and the guides who led me to read some of
her stuff on possesion states shortly before this event happened.
Blessings, Mystress.
Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 19:14:05 -0700 (PDT)
From: M <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net>
To: morganaATnospambest.com, Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Manic-depression
Message-Id: <199705100214.TAA11197ATnospamgridsat.thegrid.net>
At 12:12 AM 5/9/97 -0700, Morgana Wyze wrote:
>Anyone know of any natural methods to balance out manic depression ??
>My husband uses pot and alcohol, and I can see that this does not work
>and never has for him. He's beginning to see it, too.
> His is severe enough, but the prescription drugs numb him to life and
>drive him mad with supressed energy of K. He will not take them. He's
>pretty functional, but we're both getting tired of the roller coaster
>ride of his mood swings. He's not responsive to energy work- probably
>from 20 years of toxins from alcohol and pot.
> Damiana worked for a while, he really craved it. Then valerian root.
>St. John's had no affect. What is gingko bilova, might that help?
>Morgana
>
Morgana,
I really surely thought you knew everything. You have so much wisdom.
Something that worked for me -and for my daughter- was CO Enzyme Q 10, aka
CO Q 10. If you are near a Trader Joe's it's most reasonably priced there.
I find it to be a real mood and energy stabilizer and yet I barely notice it
... unless I stop taking it for a few days. That's about all I know about it.
Hope it works for your husband. Let me know.
M
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