1997/05/06 21:16
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #213
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 213
Today's Topics:
Re: Attitude
Fw: trance experience
Re: IMHO?
Masturbation? (Re: Reply to Yogi Tom's article)
Re: GREAT PICS!
Re: GREAT PICS!
Re: GREAT PICS !
Reading materials
Harmonise
A Healing Request
Not Sleepless in Atlanta
Re: Help, me, please, I know you can .
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 23:20:24 +0100
From: vic bonds <wildwingsATnospampeconic.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Attitude
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>Lobster,
>
>A request from someone who is suffering from fear, anxiety, and sadness. I
feel I have been consumed by ego, and falling fast. I need to find my love
attitude. I respect your posts and hope you can lend an ear. Regards,
Roseann
Fear and Anxiety and Sadness
what a way to go crazy, lady
I can't think of anything
better, even a tickling feather
doesn't do the trick like this,
gotta flow, child, get with it
go with the rolls and slide
through, on, out ,over the top
and you will see history
repeat itself, less painfully,
because, you know how to
transform the moment of
your life, my friend, that is
all you need to know how to
survive the most lonely,
desolate, conditions known
to man, is to Create your own
Reality over and over and over
and over and over again...yes....
Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 08:52:09 -0500
From: "Spiral" <spiral-3ATnospamworldnet.att.net>
To: "Kundalini Mailing List" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Fw: trance experience
Message-ID: <19970506135319.AAA27067ATnospamrjiredff>
> Hi Morgana,
>
> You wrote,
> > > Kundalini must have been waiting for me, because immediately I had
> > > visions. My husdand and I were listening to his music (he loves Ravi
> > > Shankar) and we were walking toward an ancient, huge temple. My
husband
> > > wanted a healing, but I refused, saying that I didn't need it as
much.
> > > The monks said that their tradition was East Tibetan, and that it was
> > > always available. They showed me people doing healings and
meditation,
> > > and a table full of essential oils used in healing. They kept
repeating
> > > over and over that all I had to do was choose, that this was always
> > > available to me.
> > > I finally agreed to a healing, and energy started pouring out of my
> > > third chakra. I woke from the trance gradually, still releasing from
the
> > > third chakra and third eye (places where I can get stuck energy from
> > > clients which I deep-clean several times a year). The last part of it
> > > was the message over and over that I could have this path if I chose
it.
> > >
>
> I don't know you or your life circumstances, but I'll share what comes
to
> me. You know, of course, that we all have an inner polarity of
> masculine/feminine ( yin/yang) energy potentials to develop. Sometimes we
> live out of one side much more than the other. This vision seems, to me
> anyway, to be a deep message from Self telling you that you've been
> overextending your yang energies (imaged here by your husband who wants
the healing), and that
> healing is available, if you choose. Have you been
> overextending yourself, do you sometines get "driven"? What comes to me
> about East Tibet, and your association that it is foreign to you, is that
> it may be somewhat "foreign" to your current consciousness that life
doesn't have to always
> be so frenetic. Tibetan monks carry a masculine/yang energy that always
> seems so peaceful to me. Much different than our Western ideas about
that
> energy.
> Love,
>
> Spiral
Date: Tue, 06 May 1997 14:31:46 -0700
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: IMHO?
Message-ID: <336FA342.4298ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
Mad Coyote joe wrote:
> You can't really find a decent hypocrite in a bar, you must go to
> church. Although I heard many speeches on humility--I saw none of it
> that I can remember. I would call my father humble, except that I
> suspect he may have actually felt inferior, frightened or guilty as you
> describe.
Make no mistake - humility is the with holding of strength - not the
expression of weakness.
The reason that so many of us turn to Paganism, Eastern religions and so
on is because of the rather sad spectacle of Church Christianity. Like
many on this list I have the highest regard for Christianity as a
mystical tradition but very little time for some of its silliness. This
of course applies to all religions/paths.
> The humble bow low and cover the geyser of self illumination from
> immolating the pretentiously fragile. I have seen its power silently
> crush vitriolic thoughts in a soft vacuum--moments I shall not soon
> forget.
mmm . . .
your job is to excel those moments - and not expect any recognition.
Most Kind Regards
Lobster
Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 14:02:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: CGIAJWATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Masturbation? (Re: Reply to Yogi Tom's article)
Message-ID: <970506140244_1753524595ATnospamemout08.mail.aol.com>
In a message dated 5/4/97 5:40:39 PM, you wrote:
>> Could masturbation be a form of tantric yoga or
>>meditation?
prior to masturbating, energize the heart chakra, then it is safe to begin.
Sexual arousal is a form of building energy and sensation. Take that energy
and sensation when you've become sexually aroused and send it down to the
first chakra, into the spine, and up the spinal column. I've lit up my
chakra and had mild K awakening this way, but it does take practice. Try to
delay orgasm as long as possible, and this is basically the end of your
meditation. If you do it right, you'll get into the energy aspect of it so
much that you'll probably stop masturbating so you can enjoy the energy, and
then it'll be easier to start up again and recharge your system when the
energy begins to dissapate.
Play nice (with yourself) ;)
Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 16:31:57 -0400
From: Dolce Vita <lissetteATnospambridge.net>
To: Dominic & Maureen Marando <chelseaATnospamsuperaje.com>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: GREAT PICS!
Message-ID: <336E43BC.4E25ATnospambridge.net>
Hey everyone,
Lobster never really sent his picture, just one of his "front"...
Do it Lobster!
Come on Tom we want one of you too...
make our day!!!
Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 22:26:20 +0100
From: Tom Aston <yogi.tomATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, lissetteATnospambridge.net
Subject: Re: GREAT PICS!
Message-ID: <HOvk5HA8H6bzEwtFATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
In message <336E43BC.4E25ATnospambridge.net>, Dolce Vita <lissetteATnospambridge.net>
writes
>Hey everyone,
>Lobster never really sent his picture, just one of his "front"...
>Do it Lobster!
>Come on Tom we want one of you too...
>make our day!!!
>
due to overwhelming demand have somewhat reluctantly and self-
consciously visited a photo booth today as had no photos of myself at
all although i believe my mum has quite a few !
but i think you may be a little disappointed and may find my mind more
attractive or interesting than my mug shot,
but if that's what you want, you got it..the customer's always right !
and didn't even bother to shave.....so you have Rough Tom
also resisted temptation to have head shaven as i do in summer as
thought it might scare people off presuming me to be otherworldly
ascetic rather than Urban Tantric Yogi !
i too would be curious to see Lobster in the flesh, though i quite like
the anonymous mystery that accompanies many other kundalini yogis on the
list so have resisted temptation to look at piccies.......but no doubt i
will....
give it a day or two for scanning and transmission and all will be
revealed -
regards Tom
--
Tom Aston
Date: Tue, 06 May 1997 14:58:35 -0700
From: Pamela <pamelaATnospamserv.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: GREAT PICS !
Message-ID: <336FA98B.4188ATnospamserv.net>
Where are they? I wanna see ! : o )
Pamela
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Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 16:19:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: dorATnospamhlc.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Reading materials
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Many of the members have written about the help that they have received from
Paulson's book, Kundalini and the Chakras. There is, however another book
that was of much more help to me. In the beginning when I had not a clue as
to that which was making itself known to me, Kundalini.
I bought the book by John White 'Kundalini, Evolution and Enlightment' This
book explains the magnetic field lines around the head, how the energy
travels, the entire phenomenon of kundalini, studies in bioenergetics,
physiological studies, the biological basis of k, classical and clinical.
The chapters are authored by many, a few of those whom have contributed to
this book are: Lee Sannella, Swami Muktananda, Gene Kieffer, Gopi Krishna,
Itzak Bentov (Stalking the Wild Pendulum) Erik Floor, Tontyn Hopman, Alice
Bailey, Khalsa, Yogi Bhajan, Swami Ajaya, only to name a few, as well as
John White.
On the same note, may I add that I have seen posts from those whom are
interested in magik. Perhaps you may wish to peruse 'Enochian Yoga' Gerald &
Betty Schueler have done an excellent job of explaining the magikal system
developed during the Renaissance period of Elizabeth I, a synthesis of
Western and Eastern thought and method for spiritual attainment. The book
lists the thirty Aethyts, the round table of Nalvage, shows the hexagrams
for Earth, water, fire and air, and the ritual for them. Just thought I
would pass along this information to those whom are interested. dor
Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 00:05:45 -0700
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
CC: "Garden (the)" <thegardenATnospamworld.std.com>, jan.watsonATnospamsympatico.ca
Subject: Harmonise
Message-ID: <337029C9.2FC8ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
Dear Friends,
This our space on the Internet should also be in harmony . . .
This excerpt in the book "Engaged Buddhist Reader" was written by Thich
Nat Hanh: (typed in by Wolfson Lee)
One time the Buddha visited a small community of three monks in
a
bamboo forest near Kosambi. Anuruddha, Nandiya, and Kimbila were
extremely happy to see the Buddha-Nandiya took the Buddha's bowl,
Kimbila took his outer robe, and they cleared a place for him to sit
next to a yellow bamboo thicket. With their palms joined, the three
monks bowed to the Buddha, and the Buddha invited them to sit down.
"How is your practice going?" he asked. "Are you content here? Do you
encounter difficulties while begging for alms or sharing the teachings?"
Anuruddha answered, "Lord, we are most content here. It is calm
and
peaceful. We receive ample food offerings, we are able to share the
Dharma, and we making progress in our practice."
The Buddha then asked, " Do you live in harmony?"
Anuruddha replied, "Lord, we do live in harmony, like milk and
honey.
Living with Nandiya and Kimbila is a great blessing. I treasure their
friendship. Before saying or doing anything, I always reflect on
whether my words or actions will be helpful for my brothers. If I feel
any doubt, I refrain from speaking or acting. Lord, we are three, but
we are also one."
The Buddha nodded in assent and looked at the other two monks.
Kimbila
said, :Anuruddha speaks the truth. We live in harmony and care deeply
for each other." Nandiya added, "We share all things-our food, our
insight, and our experience."
The Buddha praised them, "Excellent! I am most pleased to hear
how you
live. A community is truly a community when there is harmony. You
demonstrate real awakening."
The Buddha stayed with the monks for a month, and he observed
the way
they went begging each morning after meditation. Whoever returned first
prepared a place for the other two, gathered water for washing, and set
out an empty bowl, into which he would place some food in case one of
his brothers did not receive enough offerings. After all three monks
finished eating, they placed their leftover food on the ground or in the
stream, careful not to harm any of the creatures who lived there. Then
they washed their bowls together. When one of them noticed something
that needed tending, he did it at once, and all of them worked together
on tasks that required more than one person. And they sat together
regularly to share their insights and experiences.
Before leaving the Bamboo Forest, the Buddha told the three
monks, "the
nature of a community is harmony, and harmony can be realized by
following the Six Concords: sharing space, sharing the essentials of
daily life, observing the same precepts, using only words that
contribute to harmony, sharing insights and understanding, and
respecting each other's viewpoints. A community that follows these
principles will live happily and in peace. Monks, please continue to
practice this way." The monks were overjoyed to spend a month with the
Buddha and to receive encouragement from him."
Most Kind Regards
Lobster
Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 21:35:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: SeraphinsATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: A Healing Request
Message-ID: <970506213508_-863904206ATnospamemout06.mail.aol.com>
Please send your love, light, and healing powers to Logan Snyder, an 8-year
old boy living in Warsaw. He had a malignant brain tumor removed last week.
His original prognosis was frightening, but in 5 days, the doctors are now
saying possibly no kemo/radiation. As his aunt was giving me the update
today, telling me he is on two prayer lists, having remote reiki done on him
as well as Native American Healing, I knew to bring it to the list.
Logan's grandfather had great healing powers. Logan's father was badly
burned as a baby with some hot lard and had some serious scars. One day he
was in his crib at home alone with his father. When other family members
came home, the father was cold as stone and passed out, but the baby no
longer had a single scar.
He told the family he would pass on his gifts when he died but the one he
passed them to denies them as she is fearful.
Let us also ask for her awakening as well as our own.
A recovering catholic,
Susan
Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 22:09:45 -0400
From: "Larry Killen" <mosiahATnospammindspring.com>
To: "Kundalini List" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Not Sleepless in Atlanta
Message-Id: <199705070208.WAA00657ATnospambrickbat9.mindspring.com>
This is to thank all of you who responded to my plea for information about
my drudgery through grad school. I very much appreciate your concern and
time.
A strange thing has occurred. I read and relished all the posts. I also
did considerable meditation and prayer on the subject. And now for the
first time in months my narcolepsy has resided. This pattern is not
entirely unusual for me. I venture that somewhere deep inside some part of
me wanted attention and my reaching out met those needs. For I have been
relieved of other maladies by simply asking help before.
Again thank you all. I am nearly caught up on all my projects and hope to
be on track by the weeks end.
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TRW Systems Integration Group
serving the Centers for Disease Control
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Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 00:17:23 -0400
From: Josh Owen <surferATnospamusit.net>
To: Audo Mencarini Junior <asterixATnospamiis.com.br>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Help, me, please, I know you can .
Message-ID: <33700253.6BDCATnospamusit.net>
Audo Mencarini Junior wrote:
> It started, a year ago, with a very strong
> headache which lasted during a whole month, leaving me in complete despair.
> Finally, it stopped by itself, leaving me like would be in little
> pieces but alive.
>
> Sincerely yours,
>
> Aldo Mencarini
> asterixATnospamiis.com.br
I am by no means any kind of expert. I am however a reiki practitioner
that knows a couple of tricks. It seems that you have had tons more
experience with this kind of thing than I, but here goes:
I believe your 3rd eye Chakra has been opened wide. This causes many
headaches if the divine energy cannot be focused and/or there is a
blockage in your throat chakra. Take your hands and rub them together.
Now imagine a flashlight being shined straight down onto your head from
above. Take your hands and shape the light (Believe me, it is there) and
form it above the center of your head. Now close in your hands around
the light and make it a little smaller. This is one remedy of headaches
caused by blockage and/or too much at one time. Another remedy is to
eat something sweet.
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