1997/05/05 20:23
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #212
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 212
Today's Topics:
trance experience
kundalini is IN
Re: Help, me, please, I know you can .
mysterious symbols 2
Re: trance experience
Re: Help, me, please, I know you can .
ONE WORLD FLAG NOW GOING UP!
Re: Help, me, please, I know you can.
Re: trance experience
Re: mysterious symbols 2
GREAT PICS!
Evil itemized!
bye for now, y'all
Wrong to be Right?
Re: Mail (lack of??)
Re: Mail (lack of??)
Re: IMHO?
Re: Attitude
Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 00:44:15 -0700
From: Morgana Wyze <morganaATnospambest.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: trance experience
Message-ID: <336D8FCF.5CAEATnospambest.com>
> Hi,
> I had a great experience today with Kundalini. These are relatively rare
> these days as I'm so busy there's barely time to relax.
> My husband and I had been to a wedding rehearsal (I'm the minister)
> and it was a very relaxing afternoon, a complete contrast to my usual
> Sunday afternoon of laundry, housework and child-care. When we arrived
> home, I announced out of the blue that I was taking a nap. This is so
> completely out of character that my family was disbelieving. I'd seen my
> alter-ego in the groom's mother, with her immaculate house and inability
> to let a moment go idle. If my client is five minutes late I'm scrubbing
> toilets, while watching TV I'll fold laundry. All of this is just to
> give you a context for what followed.
> Kundalini must have been waiting for me, because immediately I had
> visions. My husdand and I were listening to his music (he loves Ravi
> Shankar) and we were walking toward an ancient, huge temple. My husband
> wanted a healing, but I refused, saying that I didn't need it as much.
> The monks said that their tradition was East Tibetan, and that it was
> always available. They showed me people doing healings and meditation,
> and a table full of essential oils used in healing. They kept repeating
> over and over that all I had to do was choose, that this was always
> available to me.
> I finally agreed to a healing, and energy started pouring out of my
> third chakra. I woke from the trance gradually, still releasing from the
> third chakra and third eye (places where I can get stuck energy from
> clients which I deep-clean several times a year). The last part of it
> was the message over and over that I could have this path if I chose it.
> As far as I know I'm very happy on my path and have never been drawn
> to anything Tibetan. I've noticed posts here in the past around Eastern
> subjects, but never studied them for my own purpose. Does anyone know
> anything about East Tibet spiritual practices?
> Squeaky clean Morgana
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 09:48:22 +0200
From: Tobias Ussing <tobiasATnospamcybernet.dk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: kundalini is IN
Message-Id: <07482218707973ATnospamcybernet.dk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
IT´s a pleasure to inform you, that kundalini is getting quite in vouge
these days. Here in Copenhagen we now have a techno-dance club called
Kundalini. How trendy can you get ? Must go there sometimes.....
lots of (stroboscope) lights
Helga
Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 00:58:28 -0700
From: Morgana Wyze <morganaATnospambest.com>
To: Audo Mencarini Junior <asterixATnospamiis.com.br>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Help, me, please, I know you can .
Message-ID: <336D9324.64F7ATnospambest.com>
>
> Aldo Mencarini
> asterixATnospamiis.com.br
Hi Aldo,
we've all been through the wringer with Kundalini, so you've come to the
right place. I don't know anything about your kundalini practice, Tom
Aston is the expert there. You may want to stop.
I often feel "empty" after kundalini has made a huge storm through my
body. A lot of this with me is I need sugar, liquids, electrolytes. I
drink a sports drink with sodium in it, and I feel better soon.
You seem to be releasing a lot of heat. There is a balancing "cold"
channel in the body. Very often I used to sweat, then the next night be
extremely cold. The cold channel could sometimes get "stuck" if there
wasd an old sadness inside me that I wasn't letting surface. Write down
all of your thoughts, no matter how trivial, and the answer may be there
to balance out the two channels.
Is there an experienced Kundalini yoga teacher in your area? Sometimes
they can help, sometimes not. It takes hope and courage to get through
this.
For my emotional storms I use the exercise on page 55 of Paulson's
book "kundalini and the chakras". It really balances things out. The
only other thing that I can suggest is that kundalini seems to deplete
progesterone levels in both men and woman. Get that checked, I take wild
yam capsules and a natural progesterone cream.
Simple muscle tension could account for the numbness of the hands and
fingers. Massage may help, I take valerian root and kava-kava because
the emotional swings can tie my back into knots.
Love, Morgana
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 14:18:08 +0400
From: "Dmitry Zayakin" <dzenATnospamtransit.samara.ru>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: mysterious symbols 2
Message-Id: <199705050949.OAA07084ATnospaminfo.ssu.samara.ru>
Hi All!
Thanks to everyone who sent me the warnings about attached file, and take
my apologies. I don't have much experience with INTERNET and as a result
I've done this mistake. I'll try to fix this problem and send you that
symbols using MIME or UUCODE.
Respectfully Dmitry.
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 08:11:17 +0100
From: vic bonds <wildwingsATnospampeconic.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: trance experience
Message-Id: <12111712702243ATnospampeconic.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Dear
Squeaky clean Morgana,
>From greasy Raven ~V~,
Hi there, Have you gotten any letters from confused menfolk?
I am one heck of a confused Babe in sheep's clothing, but I
am doing what ah want to do, smile,
I also want to say, I have my eye on you,
I like your letters
I like your style
why dont you stay
alittle while on the K
we got things going
let's keep rollin'
and move them on out
to victory and freedom
When you say you are mine
a friend in time
will pay you a visit
If you dont mind me
saying so freely
I cant resist
making you
freer than a Bee.
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 12:51:33 +0100
From: Tom Aston <yogi.tomATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, Audo Mencarini Junior <asterixATnospamiis.com.br>
Subject: Re: Help, me, please, I know you can .
Message-ID: <m4xMUAAFncbzEwKRATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
In message <199705050736.EAA14846ATnospamhome.iis.com.br>, Audo Mencarini
Junior <asterixATnospamiis.com.br> writes
Hi Audo,
>Need your help,sincerely, and send love for you all. i believe in
>love, with all my hearth, and used to heal many people, before,but now, at
>this time, I am needing to be helped. Help me, please!!
love is great...but with kundalini this is not always enough as there is
sometimes a profound subtle learning process and transitional adjustment
of our way of being that can go very deep that must take place before
things become more peaceful and love can once again be the centre of our
existence
>
re: finger problems with energy and sensations
the little finger is the home of the heart meridian, the left hand is
related to the right hand side of the brain, the more whole spiritual
aspect in contrast to the analytical logical left brain....
so it could simply be a matter of integrating the more holistic
spiritual higher emotional aspects of life into your chakra system and
meridians....and easing up on the more logical aspects of your psyche -
less thinking, more feeling.
you could try just rotating your fingers once or twice a day and bending
them to gently clear and balance the meridians that start in them.
a prayer or a little loving wouldn't do any harm...
kundalini is a sensitive energy so it may help to keep a diary of
symptoms as they tend to change and can be quite erratic....in the long
run a diary can help clarify the general direction of things towards
integration, wholeness and purification of emotions and body and subtle
energy....as it sounds like this is a process that isn't going to go
away
>When sleep start to sweet heavily just in the back of my head and
>shoulders, although is cold outside, wake up suddenly with my pillow totally
>wet, and which is worst with a sensation that all is vage and that my head
>is totally empty, feel that it is a very strong symptom, don't think that i
>can resist to it during a long time. It has started suddenly, and is very
>strong. So, now, i am afraid of sleeping. It doesn't happen in such amount
>during the day when i am waked up. But during the night, when i sleep, it
>cames . Help me, please.
this may mark a profound change in your journey....sleep is a profound
psychological subject, but with kundalini it is often when the deeper
energies of the unconscious manifest through dreams or, in your case,
all kinds of apparently unpleasant symptoms...so it could be that sleep
is actually a gateway to deeper truths than your waking consciousness is
aware of....
this experience of emptiness is not unusual among kundalini yogis (or
for that matter, people sensitive to psychic and spiritual energy) and
can be experienced as a general slipping away of the old identity, as a
more clearcut experience in meditation or, as in your case, a kind of
nightmare of emptiness....
this goes very deep, and ultimately centres on the question WHO AM I?
which may seem a dangerous question to ask sometimes, given that it can
take us deep into the psyche and bring answers we do not always
immediately welcome
one symbol i found useful in understanding this emptiness was the empty
skull of Tantric Yoga
and the Zen doctrine of No Mind
and, in intellectual and scientific terms, the black holes identified by
modern astrophysics when stars implode and time and space are swallowed
up
and of course Buddhism talks about emptiness, sunyata, The Void or no
ego as the primordial reality...
(it may help to get expert help in exploring this experience as
emptiness is obviously a rather terrifying thing and can heighten
confusion and despair if not addressed and understood adequately -
the obvious sources of help are:
some kind of transpersonal or Jungian therapist sympathetic to kundalini
or at least willing to be educated about her,
someone knowledgeable about meditative states of consciousness such as a
Buddhist teacher,
or someone expert in tantric or kundalini yoga acquainted with this kind
of apparent loss of conventional self identity -
the Spiritual Emergency Network - in cyberspace - which has a link with
the kundalini list pages i believe
these kind of people can be hard to find sometimes as they tend to be
outnumbered by people who may actually make things worse for people like
yourself by applying reductive science and psychology to something that
cannot be contained in these narrow terms....
so it could be that you are touching a more primal state of being in
sleep that your waking (conditioned) self doesn't want to know about as
it clearly threatens its sense of permanence and importance in the
universe...
on a less profound note, sweating often arises with kundalini due to
excessive liquid intake and an automatic purification process - some
yogis don't drink much to be honest, just as they don't eat that
much...even if Western science says we need a litre of water a day or
something and three meals a day....
when i had sweat problems i used to just drink enough to make sure my
saliva remained normal in my mouth and my urine didn't go dark yellow, a
sign of dehydration....two or three glasses of water a day was plenty,
avoid tea and coffee and alcohol if possible, kundalini doesn't like
them.
it could be kundalini wants you to purify your body in general...good
wholesome diet and water/herb tea etc and sunshine and gentle exercise
of some form are the simplest means....just see what kundalini
likes...no need for a strict regime just see what helps your general
sense of well-being. this is just one more step in adjusting your way of
being to this energy.....
>For while the more than 10 physicians (neurologists)
>couldn't do something for me .They couldn't even give me something to start.
>They say i am stressed. i don't feel like was stressed, but maybe i am.i am
>becaming worried, and becaming weak
>and tired.
no wonder the neurologists were baffled - this sounds like kundalini at
work.....it can turn our worlds upsidedown and bring on a deep sense of
despair and confusion until we face a kind of existential crisis when we
are forced to find some kind of resolution to the dilemmas of our
existence...
a process of dissolution and inner "death" of an old way of being can
last quite a while before a new energy and understanding emerges..body,
emotions, intellect, spirit - kundalini can remake them all through a
process of transmutation and transformation...
it may help to have a look at the "transpersonal", "evolutionary" and
"spiritual crisis" and "kundalini" themes that writers like Stanislav
Grof, Assigioli, Lee Sannella and Ken Wilber explore in their writings
just so you have some reference points for realising this is a process
that has been going on for centuries, but which Western science remains
largely indifferent to and Western culture in general tends to
categorise as negative and some kind of sickness.
go gently my friend, but go deep, this is just the start probably of
what can be a very strange experience at times.....but ultimately
wonderful in its capacity for deepening our understanding and
wholeness....and don't be afraid of asking for help, it is an unsual
person who can handle this all alone.....
Regards Yogi Tom
"Hell is often the last stop before enlightenment"
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 09:28:53 +0100
From: voltronATnospamvoy.net (Jon Locke)
To: voltronATnospamvoy.net
Subject: ONE WORLD FLAG NOW GOING UP!
Message-Id: <v0153050caf9349fb6a2cATnospam[209.42.129.53]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
There is a corssover between the New Age adn the New World Order, in case
you haven't noticed it. Here is a site which flys a One World Flag. You may
find it interesting reading, Love and Light, Jon
http://home.earthlink.net/~hyphenate/oneworld.html
May Love, Light, Peace and Happiness pervade the world from Now till
Evermore. - Voltron
===========================
Jon Locke
The Philosopher's Stone
http://www.voy.net/~voltron/
Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 08:53:22 -0700
From: John Halonen <halonenjATnospamix.netcom.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Help, me, please, I know you can.
Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970505085312.00698b2cATnospampopd.ix.netcom.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Yogi tom,
Thank you as always for advice that you have given here. You truly pull
from within and without yourself knowledge to share with all the souls on
this list.
Blessings to you Audo.
I have experienced some of this empty head achey kind of thing for a few
days at a time when I was younger and drinking alot. Fortunately for me
this passed.
I can not image it for a month. This must have truly been despairing.
There is an old saying, "You can find the answers within yourself."
But sometimes you need the help and the love of others. So thank yourself
for asking, and don't be afraid to ask for more.
blessings,
John Halonen
Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 10:20:39 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: morganaATnospambest.com
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: trance experience
Message-ID: <336DA666.32B3ATnospamintercomm.com>
Morgana Wyze wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> > I had a great experience today with Kundalini. These are relatively rare
> > these days as I'm so busy there's barely time to relax.
> > My husband and I had been to a wedding rehearsal (I'm the minister)
> > and it was a very relaxing afternoon, a complete contrast to my usual
> > Sunday afternoon of laundry, housework and child-care. When we arrived
> > home, I announced out of the blue that I was taking a nap. This is so
> > completely out of character that my family was disbelieving. I'd seen my
> > alter-ego in the groom's mother, with her immaculate house and inability
> > to let a moment go idle. If my client is five minutes late I'm scrubbing
> > toilets, while watching TV I'll fold laundry. All of this is just to
> > give you a context for what followed.
> > Kundalini must have been waiting for me, because immediately I had
> > visions. My husdand and I were listening to his music (he loves Ravi
> > Shankar) and we were walking toward an ancient, huge temple. My husband
> > wanted a healing, but I refused, saying that I didn't need it as much.
> > The monks said that their tradition was East Tibetan, and that it was
> > always available. They showed me people doing healings and meditation,
> > and a table full of essential oils used in healing. They kept repeating
> > over and over that all I had to do was choose, that this was always
> > available to me.
> > I finally agreed to a healing, and energy started pouring out of my
> > third chakra. I woke from the trance gradually, still releasing from the
> > third chakra and third eye (places where I can get stuck energy from
> > clients which I deep-clean several times a year). The last part of it
> > was the message over and over that I could have this path if I chose it.
> > As far as I know I'm very happy on my path and have never been drawn
> > to anything Tibetan. I've noticed posts here in the past around Eastern
> > subjects, but never studied them for my own purpose. Does anyone know
> > anything about East Tibet spiritual practices?
> > Squeaky clean Morgana
Morgana,
It doesn't have to mean that you will change paths, but rather that you
will integrate the eastern into the western this way a transformation in
both will take place. Gloria
Date: Sun, 04 May 1997 13:07:16
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: "Dmitry Zayakin" <dzenATnospamtransit.samara.ru>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: mysterious symbols 2
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970504130716.24876a06ATnospamdomin8rex.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Dimitri, the thing to do is to post the message to me, and I will put it
in a secret file on my website and post the URL on the list, so members can
click on it and see it.
Blessings, List Mystress.
PS: Does anybody know how to get the alternate sig file in Eudora to work?
At 14:18 05/05/97 +0400, you wrote:
>Hi All!
>
>Thanks to everyone who sent me the warnings about attached file, and take
>my apologies. I don't have much experience with INTERNET and as a result
>I've done this mistake. I'll try to fix this problem and send you that
>symbols using MIME or UUCODE.
>
>Respectfully Dmitry.
>
>
Mystress Angelique Serpent,
Dominant Experiential Facilitator.
Website= http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent
:D ;) :0 :) ;P :0 ;) :D :0 :) ;P :0 ;) :)
"We've heard that a million monkeys at a million keyboards could produce
the Complete Works of Shakespeare; now, thanks to the Internet, we know
this is not true." Robert Wilensky, University of California
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Vancouver, B.C., Canada. Officially the most beautiful city in the world.
Date: Mon, 5 May 97 15:23:13 EDT
From: chelseaATnospamsuperaje.com (Dominic & Maureen Marando)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: GREAT PICS!
Message-Id: <9705051923.AA21255ATnospamsuperaje.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Everyone...
What a great idea sending in your pictures.
It is soooo cool to put faces to names.
And I NEVER KNEW lobsters had beards...never mind the moustache!
Send more, send more!
Just how do you send one again?
Mo
Date: Sun, 04 May 1997 14:22:08
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Evil itemized!
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970504142208.08e70018ATnospamdomin8rex.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
http://www.locksley.com/locksley/consp.htm
Satan and Hitler!
http://www.earthlight.co.nz/users/spock/tbo/ns-satan.txt
Mystress Angelique Serpent,
Dominant Experiential Facilitator.
Website= http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent
:D ;) :0 :) ;P :0 ;) :D :0 :) ;P :0 ;) :)
"We've heard that a million monkeys at a million keyboards could produce
the Complete Works of Shakespeare; now, thanks to the Internet, we know
this is not true." Robert Wilensky, University of California
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Vancouver, B.C., Canada. Officially the most beautiful city in the world.
Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 13:25:59 -0700
From: Peter Norton <pnortonATnospamatwc.teradyne.com>
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: bye for now, y'all
Message-ID: <336E4257.7039ATnospamatwc.teradyne.com>
gotta give my eyeball chakras a rest, so am unsubscribing for
a while, sorry to all those who look forward to my ranting screeds!
I am off to work on my next koan, this one from Firesign Theatre:
"How can you be in two places at once,
When you're really nowhere at all?"
remember: "There's a seeker born every minute"!
cheers
(all this assumes I am going to succeed in navigating the
dangerous and labyrinthine unsubscribe procedures, which have
befuddled myriads of ascended yogis, numberless as the sands
of the Ganges, let alone dilettante dabblers like me. So, given
all that, what chance do I have? None! But yet,
I am called by the divine to unsubscribe, so I must try, I must!
In the Name of the Goddess Prajnaparamita I will rush in without
fear, petitioning the vast web of the universe to unsubscribe me
when all other mortals before me who sought the blessed peace of
unsubscription have been trapped in the endless
cycle of postings and repostings, their Kafkaesque petitions for
unsubscription hurled back at their screens while the web gods
roar with hideous laughter!)
Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 22:09:31 -0700
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: jan.watsonATnospamsympatico.ca, "Garden (the)" <thegardenATnospamworld.std.com>
CC: tariqasATnospamworld.std.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Wrong to be Right?
Message-ID: <336EBD0B.F14ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
Hi All,
I would like to talk a little about an extremely lethal and dangerous
weapon. This may not be the right forum to discuss such ideas but it is
important to know these things. This weapon will disarm any Adept of any
tradition, it will protect you from danger, it will enhance your
spiritual capacities. It will destroy all fear and doubt. The "weapon"
is called humility.
It is married to kindness and courtesy, it is the basis of the
resolution of all conflict. In Taoism it is called Wu Wei - in Islam it
is called Islam (Submission). In Christianity when not overdoing it for
the sake of show (false humility) they call it humility - it is the
basis of Christian Mysticism. Humility is a form of generosity it says,
"no you first - you are right". It looks to the fault in ourselves
(without guilt). Guilt is no part of humility. You are never wrong - you
just choose to allow others their "Rights".
My Dear Friends, if you want to change the world and yourself - practice
humility. God Bless You.
Most Kind Regards
Lobster (ending sermon)
Date: Sun, 04 May 1997 16:18:45
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: jogATnospamozemail.com.au, Kundalini <Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Mail (lack of??)
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970504161845.32170062ATnospamdomin8rex.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Hi Jens:
This line of your header tells me you are not on the list.
Please send a message with SUBSCRIBE in the subject to
kundalini-l-requestATnospamexecpc.com.
Probably you have been having mailbox failures of late, and so the
computer automatically unsubscribed you so members would no longer be
troubled by returned posts.
Happens sometimes.
Blessings. List Mystress,
>X-Diagnostic: Not on the accept list
>X-Envelope-To: kundalini-l
>At 15:47 05/05/97 -0500, Jens Grejsen wrote:
>Dear administrator,
>
>I've suddenly ceased to receive any mailings from the K mailing list,
>and i can't understand why, as i haven't unsubscribed. Other list
>members are receiving stuff, and i'm receiving mail from other sources.
>I resubscribed to the K mailing list, but still am not receiving
>anything. What could be happening?
>
>jens
>
yes, here is the file post the computer sent me about you.
Ask your server admin why this happenned.
>Old-Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 11:23:20 +1000 (EST)
>From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMONATnospamoznet02.ozemail.com.au>
>Subject: Returned mail: unknown mailer error 1
>To: <kundalini-l-requestATnospamexecpc.com>
>Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure)
>X-Diagnostic: Mail to jogATnospamozemail.com.au bounced 1 times
>X-Diagnostic: Mail coming from a daemon, ignored
>X-Diagnostic: Possible loopback problem
>X-Envelope-To: kundalini-l-request
>
>The original message was received at Tue, 29 Apr 1997 11:22:01 +1000 (EST)
>from rootATnospammailgate.execpc.com [169.207.16.5]
>
> ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
><jogATnospamozemail.com.au>
>
> ----- Transcript of session follows -----
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>Arrival-Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 11:22:01 +1000 (EST)
>
>Final-Recipient: rfc822; jogATnospamoznet02.ozemail.com.au
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Date: Sun, 04 May 1997 16:48:50
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: jogATnospamozemail.com.au, Kundalini <Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Mail (lack of??)
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Whups, sorry everybody, I meant to clip the list from the address when I
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Blessings, KLM.
Mystress Angelique Serpent,
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Website= http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent
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"We've heard that a million monkeys at a million keyboards could produce
the Complete Works of Shakespeare; now, thanks to the Internet, we know
this is not true." Robert Wilensky, University of California
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Vancouver, B.C., Canada. Officially the most beautiful city in the world.
Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 18:34:00 -0700
From: Mad Coyote joe <joeATnospamflarity.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
CC: jan.watsonATnospamsympatico.ca, paulaflarityATnospampdq.net, 0002005675ATnospammcimail.com
Subject: Re: IMHO?
Message-ID: <336E8A87.703AATnospamflarity.com>
A dandy sermon lobster, my favorite kind--short and effective. And I
have heard plenty as the son of a preacher man. I grew up under the
shadow of a variety of church people.
You can't really find a decent hypocrite in a bar, you must go to
church. Although I heard many speeches on humility--I saw none of it
that I can remember. I would call my father humble, except that I
suspect he may have actually felt inferior, frightened or guilty as you
describe.
Until I came to this list. And you lobster--should be the one to speak
of humility. You are my first observed humble person. I came here a
virgin and you have impregnated me with the force of the meek.
The humble bow low and cover the geyser of self illumination from
immolating the pretentiously fragile. I have seen its power silently
crush vitriolic thoughts in a soft vacuum--moments I shall not soon
forget.
I wonder what will be the result of this insemination? And when shall
the result emerge?
Forgive me lobster, for tantalizing your ego,
love,
joe
> Hi All,
>
> I would like to talk a little about an extremely lethal and dangerous
> weapon. This may not be the right forum to discuss such ideas but it is
> important to know these things. This weapon will disarm any Adept of any
> tradition, it will protect you from danger, it will enhance your
> spiritual capacities. It will destroy all fear and doubt. The "weapon"
> is called humility.
> It is married to kindness and courtesy, it is the basis of the
> resolution of all conflict. In Taoism it is called Wu Wei - in Islam it
> is called Islam (Submission). In Christianity when not overdoing it for
> the sake of show (false humility) they call it humility - it is the
> basis of Christian Mysticism. Humility is a form of generosity it says,
> "no you first - you are right". It looks to the fault in ourselves
> (without guilt). Guilt is no part of humility. You are never wrong - you
> just choose to allow others their "Rights".
> My Dear Friends, if you want to change the world and yourself - practice
> humility. God Bless You.
>
> Most Kind Regards
> Lobster (ending sermon)
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 22:47:36 -0400 (EDT)
From: RWilli2ATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Attitude
Message-ID: <970505224532_-97636960ATnospamemout04.mail.aol.com>
Lobster,
A request from someone who is suffering from fear, anxiety, and sadness. I
feel I have been consumed by ego, and falling fast. I need to find my love
attitude. I respect your posts and hope you can lend an ear. Regards,
Roseann
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