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kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #211


kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 211

Today's Topics:
  serpent visitor
  Re: Reply to Yogi Tom's article
  [Fwd: Re: Love for Bruno Callipari]
  On Wisdom
  Re: On the word, Wisdom
  Re: wierd stuff
  Re: pictures of listmembers
  Re: wierd stuff
  AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
  Re: Reply to Yogi Tom
  Unidentified subject!
  Help, me, please, I know you can .
Date: Sun, 04 May 1997 13:44:49 PDT
From: "anita grayson" <eiregrayATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: serpent visitor
Message-Id: <199705042044.NAA11106ATnospamf40.hotmail.com>
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 Today I had a serpent visitor. A snake appeared at my door.
My cat, being the sensative one she is, noticed it first. He slithered
up my walkway to the door, looking for his sister in my spine. I was
not a home at the time. The kundalini is still with me.
 I think it was a eastern rattler.


     Anita
     
     If therefore thine eye be single,
     tht whole body shall be full of light
     Matthew 6:22
   

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Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 22:16:11 +0100
From: Tom Aston <yogi.tomATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, Bruno Callipari <bruno_cATnospammildura.net.au>
Subject: Re: Reply to Yogi Tom's article
Message-ID: <zLm5oBAbyPbzEwbVATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>

In message <199705041356.XAA08444ATnospammildura.mildura.net.au>, Bruno
Callipari <bruno_cATnospammildura.net.au> writes

Could not resist responding to this brilliant post publicly - it's the
funniest and most honest thing i've read for a while - thanks Bruno.

> Could masturbation be a form of tantric yoga or
>meditation?

in theory - yes, anything can be turned to our advantage if we go deep
enough, but probably not necessary if one already knows how to turn it
around like this....but if you're doing it already, why not turn it
around into a spiritual practice....just observe the experience, become
more aware and go deeper into the real nature of the experience, see
where this awareness leads....

am I a yogi?

why not ? you're seeking to yoke your life to a higher intelligence of
some kind presumably...that makes you a yogi in my book...rather a yogi
than being a patient or user of mental health services or loony....

> But doesn't there have to be some
>unbearable psychological/emotional thing happen if you didn't get it
through
>normal yoga or meditation? Like as is said in Psychic Phenomena -
soonafter
>"moments of crisis when an old mundane conditioned identity has to give
way..."

not necessarily....it all goes so deep, the outer form of one's life or
spiritual practice before the onset of crisis can take virtually any
appearance at all....

my personal opinion is that what counts is whether one has integrated
the waking mind with the subconscious, and this goes so deep that
whatever one does may or may not be appropriate to one's particular
needs......

yoga and meditation may help, but may also become a liability or source
of willfulness and resistance to the energy depending on the context and
timing....just like any other method or discipline for that matter

 You have to realise I was in a hospital environment when the
>kundalini was most active - it was trying to help me escape - alot of
it I
>was concious but can't remember actually being alive. I was also
unconcious
>from heavy needles after I did something like throw food into a staff
>member's face after saying something sharp and clever.

This sounds like it would make a very interesting literary account - i
particularly like the idea of kundalini on the run from the psychiatric
profession....this just about sums up the whole debate on psychiatry and
kundalini crises...as well as the general point of what to do with
patients with attitude....

> Tastes and smells - "can bring forth apparently imaginary
smells and
>tastes, pleasant and unpleasant". In Melbourne when the police were
taking
>me to be incarcerated I smelt Religious incense and so did they as if
it was
>coming from me.

good stuff...this is an auspicious sign...now i know you are a yogi !
hmmm smells sweet

> Touch and the body - "sometimes of a sexual nature" I kept
grabbing
>men's crotches in hospital probly as a bit of a waking them up thing.
I
>don't know cos this is another thing I cant remember actually doing. I
also
>had sex with another male patient (as a virgin too)

now that really is Tantric.....but not recommended in general for
handling awakened kundalini

could also be interpreted as somewhat Zenlike - like Master hitting
students with big stick to wake them up, only this is the more direct
connection to the brain....don't think it will ever catch on though


> Purification of the sixth sense : the brain - "prevent its
normal
>functioning" - you got that right buster!

it doesn't seem to have killed off your sense of humour though - this is
great stuff - i would be really interested in reading the finished
product.

Would this "longterm chemical
>imbalance" have passed if left to take its course and could there have
been
>someone to help?

i would say that, judging by this message you are probably able to
handle things - however unconventionally you may do so. my intuition is
you are probably on your own here and have a somewhat unusual potential
for discovering the tantric guru within who will help you balance and
resolve your kundalini crisis so you can escape medication and
incarceration in the long run. just go one step at a time and things may
well slowly come together....you've found the list, you're clarifying
the past and the experience and you're writing well, you want to be free
of mediction and the threat of incarceration, that's a good start, but
only a start.

 Its hard to get help cos the government involuntarily puts
>you in. A trial has to be held when you look better.

hmmm. how does a mad man prove his sanity to people who are equally mad
but in different ways ? have you read kafka ? or catch-22 ? maybe a
little humour will help.....and admitting past wrongs can impress
psychiatrists as this amounts in their eyes to understanding you are mad
and need help....follow the path of least resistance, bend but do not
break, as with a history like yours they have all the aces should you
make a one-off stand and whether or not they say you are stable, the
stigm,a of mentasl illness tends to be forever so you will be viewed as
a ticking bomb for a good while yet most likely.
 
> Here is the golden knuckle on the door > "the mind races, words
or
>images pour through it in a great surge they cannot control, may feel
an
>urge to speak in tongues etc" Each time I got K it wasn't allowed to
run
>its full course so it built up and became more complex

yep, this really is the crucial negative aspect of psychiatric
intervention, apart from the toxicity of medication to the nervous
system...

you have to take control here, subtly, and somehow find ways of letting
things run their natural course without provoking any more unwanted
intervention - this is a tightrope to walk.....have no illusions, it
will probably require all of your talents and awareness

I even bought this viscious tub of collagen cream at the mental
>patients tuck shop to make sure I didn't get hospital induced wrinkles.

wrinkles and piles are a real problem for yogis sat around all day and
this is the kind of extreme emergency medical intervention i think we
should be encouraging for kundalini crises

 I turned my vinyl rubber mattress pad into a
>ship/boat alternatively and acted out Star Trek scenarios.

You were certainly challenging their assumptions about what it is to be
nuts.....so who played Captain Kirk ? And where were the clingons ? Why
didn't you just get Scotty to beam you up ?

and what did you do to convince them you are normal after this ?

> I raised the fire
>alarm by breaking the 'glass'/button device once - the whole fire
brigade
>came to the call and I escaped to the next floor that wasn't the mental
ward
>as if guided to freedom/safety. I also cleared the barbed wire fence
and
>went shopping once, putting cool stuff like computers on hold!!

maybe there's a movie in this ? Sounds like an epic confrontation
between rampant kundalini and the psychiatric profession - something
like Papillon meets One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest.

>"Out of body experiences" I had many blackouts, times I couldn't
>account for - Like when my brother in law and his son took me out for
the
>day, he bought a box of Kentucky Fried Chicken and I ate it all from
them.
>
Now, eating KFC, that really is disturbing, what next ? MacDonalds ?
Lock him up nurse.

     I was opting to go naked eversince the first time I prayed under a
>tree in the back courtyard of my flat and collected in the dippy van.

Don't underestimate the power of prayer, it can give you exactly what
you want.

And as for nakedness, this can offend those who would rather not know
that they too are naked in the sight of God. I went through a phase of
not wearing socks which caused great concern among my family, so i hate
to think what nakedness would have done to them.


 The Question of psychiatric intervention - "may well poison the
>nerveous system and damage the autonomic functions...into a physical
>nightmare" - Tell me about it, I used to be size 87 jeans, now I'm fat
and I
>do things slowly. But I am seeing a naturopath so he's helping. I
have to
>take the medication cos I don't know what I'd do if I was in hopital
again.
>I also see a psychiatrist every 3 weeks and a bloodlevel test every 3
>months. If I was to stop taking them I'd need to be really sure I
could
>ride out the kundalini, cos I don't think I've been fully awakened to
>stabilisation yet. Can anyone help?

What about a gradual and closely monitored lessening of dependence on
medication over several months or a year or so - i thought this was the
general policy these days ?

I think a psychologist sympathetic to the more transpersonal and jungian
aspects of therapy might well be interested in helping you find ways of
being and understanding that don't get you drugged and locked up.....a
cognitive psychologist could be a total disaster though as they will
probably be quite reductive in their outlook.

unless it's pretty anarchic, a spiritual community might just bottle up
the energy and prolong the emergence process, especially if you have to
follow set routines and perform physical and meditational
disciplines....kundalini tends to have a mind of her own once she's this
far gone....what's your spiritual background, aren't there things you
know already that are relevant ? the answer tends to lie within in the
end.....

how about very gradually reining in kundalini's excesses very very
gently and seeing what she likes and doesn't like....

methinks, like so many of us, you need to find a WAY OF BEING that is in
harmony with this energy...judging by the humour and anarchic and vivid
anecdote of this post i would say you might find writing suits her

alternatively, go walkabout with the Aboriginees - haven't you heard of
Dreamtime ? (seriously, getting close to nature, perhaps by hiking or
camping, working up an honest sweat with a pack, may ground your
experience physically)

or do both.

good luck to you, my crazy sane friend

regards Yogi Tom

ps i read the Mystress's netiquette post, but i posted this to whole
list as it covers ground that seems relevant to anyone worried about
traumas that kundalini can bring sometimes or simply interested in (and
may not want to discuss openly) notions of madness and sanity....hope i
can be forgiven for this licence. correct me if this was not a good idea
or a waste of valuable space....it will not happen again if this is the
case.

--
Tom Aston
Date: Sun, 04 May 1997 22:52:05 -0700
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
CC: jan.watsonATnospamsympatico.ca
Subject: [Fwd: Re: Love for Bruno Callipari]
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Date: Sun, 04 May 1997 22:51:23 -0700
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To: Ken McFarland <kenmATnospamOREGON.UOREGON.EDU>
Subject: Re: Love for Bruno Callipari
References: <1.5.4.32.19970504174939.0066ee98ATnospamoregon.uoregon.edu>

Ken McFarland wrote:
 
> Bruno,
>
> I don't have any sage advise for you.
> I just want you to know that there are many people on this list who love you.
> I am one of them.
> The others are observing, praying, and meditating for you.
> Know that you are greatly loved by many.
>
> Ken

I have only ever offered advice to Bruno
Ken has offered acceptance
There is more Wisdom in Kens Love and Acceptance
than my advice

PEACE AND BLESSINGS TO YOU
Lobster
Date: Sun, 04 May 1997 23:27:35 -0700
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
CC: jan.watsonATnospamsympatico.ca
Subject: On Wisdom
Message-ID: <336D7DD7.5B22ATnospamdial.pipex.com>

woodsongATnospamjuno.com wrote:

> Another Shaker Song--
>
> I will bow and be simple, I will bow and be free
> I will bow and be humble, yea bow like the willow tree
> I will bow this is the token, I will wear the easy yoke
> I will bow and be broken, yea I'll fall upon the rock

"Do what Thou Wilt
Shall be the Whole of the Law
Love under Will"

Aleister Crowley
 
-----------------------

I know which I prefer
How about you?

Most Kind Regards
Lobster (taking a bow)
Date: Sun, 04 May 1997 23:17:16 -0700
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
CC: jan.watsonATnospamsympatico.ca
Subject: Re: On the word, Wisdom
Message-ID: <336D7B6C.6321ATnospamdial.pipex.com>

This comes from another forum but I believe what Frank has said is
relevant (Lobster)

Frank Gorin wrote:
 
> _______
>
> A Buddhist teacher once told me there are two kinds of wisdom -- one
> is acquired and one is revealed.
> Acquired wisdom is in learning how to do, function, exist with
> efficiency and grace, and this includes doing one's work and getting
> through the day in an excellent way -- the wisdom of movement and
> judgement gained through experience - that is, trial and error. In this
> sense, even learning how to swim or to ride a bicycle is a very
> elementary kind of acquired wisdom - different than the first, fumbling
> attempts at something. So, when we see a master at work in his craft --
> artist, technician, teacher, etc.-- we see a developed kind of acquired
> wisdom.
> Revealed wisdom is the grasp of existence, that comes from seeing
> directly into our true nature -- experiencing the empty, disappearing
> nature of all "things", all phenomena, including the emptiness of what we
> always thought was "self". In a way, revealed wisdom is the experience
> of coming suddenly undone or "blown apart" as I/me/it. Selfhood is
> experienced as ownerless and temporary, like everything else. Revealed
> wisdom isn't arbitrarily hidden, then revealed. It is self-revealing as
> one progresses along the Way -- like a light that shines more and more
> brightly as you remove what has been covering it. You progress along the
> Way by practicing virtue and inner concentration - as taught by someone
> wise in revealed wisdom.
> This isn't expressed in "religious" language, but I believe it's the
> core of all serious spiritual practice.
> Peace,
Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 18:47:29 -0400 (EDT)
From: Charles Burnett <lcburnetATnospampeabody.jhu.edu>
To: Amy Wilder <awilderATnospammail.coin.missouri.edu>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: wierd stuff
Message-Id: <Pine.SUN.3.95.970504183432.3169A-100000ATnospamgigue.peabody.jhu.edu>
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You know, I had a very similar experience, even though I still can't
explain what happened. I have come to believe that we are all like cosmic
antennas. When we are opened up with ourselfs, other things get in that
we are aware of. My experience was on night I was recordind a song in my
basement, when I heard these voices calling my name comming from a corner
of the room. I thought nothing of it. Latter on, the guitarest in my
band, who is a firm disbeliever in anything "supernatural", looked at me
and said "do you hear that?" it was a screaming sound from the corner. I
had, so we both left the house. When we got outside, he froze up and
started yelling that something was holding him there at my house! We
jumped in the car and took of for a few hours to get coffee and chill out
a little. When we got back though, it got even worse. We decided to just
camp out in the basement. When I took of my shirt to go to bed, there
were these these scratch-mark scar tissue marks running down my chest.
The guitarist said "look at that!" and when he leaned over to touch them
my cat dove at his face like the cat in "pet Cemitary." When we woke up
the scars were gone, but on the tape of the song all there is are growling
noises!
   Very strange. Charlie

On Sat, 3 May 1997, Amy Wilder wrote:

>
> Hello all,
>
> Some wierd things have been happening to me, beginning last night and
> lasting this morning. First of all, last night around 12:45 I was dozing
> off and pretty much asleep when I was rudely awakened by a loud zzzzzZZ!
> (kind of like someone unzipping something really fast) and felt something
> swipe my face. As my head went back, my eyes opened and I sat up. My
> face was numb, I had to feel it to make sure it wasn't bleeding. That
> whole thing was kind of like when you have a 'falling' dream that
> startles you awake, except something scratched my face. So I sat there
> for a while, very wide awake, praying to everyone I could think of,
> though not really scared. When I started relaxing, I heard my mom's dorr
> open really loud. I called her name a few times but got no answer so I
> went in her room; she was asleep.
>
> This morning, I was helping deliver meals on wheels. I had to go outside
> after we were done to get a cooler out of the car. I opened to door of
> the senior center to go out, and tried pushing it closed behind me, but
> it wouldn't close. It was stuck. I let go and it slammed against the
> wall and stayed there (there was no wind btw), until I got the cooler out
> of the car. When I was going in, the door followed centimeters behind me
> and slammed shut as soon as I was through. I didn't even touch it!
>
> Anyway..
> Amy
>
>
Date: Sun, 04 May 1997 16:24:31 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: frans <fransATnospamtelebyte.nl>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: pictures of listmembers
Message-ID: <336CAA2C.64DFATnospamintercomm.com>

frans wrote:
>
> The first pixels have made it across the ocean. Have a
> look at :
> http://www.telebyte.nl/~frans/we/index.htm
> for pictures of listmembers.
>
> Send me your picture by e-mail if you want to join us here.
> (or give me an addres on the web)
> Paper pictures can be sent to:
>
> Frans Storms
> Priemstraat 1
> 6511 WC Nijmegen
> The Netherlands
>
> This was fun to do, thanx, frans.
Hi Frans, I am working on it, thanks. Gloria
Date: Sun, 04 May 1997 17:31:15 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: Charles Burnett <lcburnetATnospampeabody.jhu.edu>
CC: Amy Wilder <awilderATnospammail.coin.missouri.edu>, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: wierd stuff
Message-ID: <336CB9CC.3C43ATnospamintercomm.com>

Charles Burnett wrote:
>
> You know, I had a very similar experience, even though I still can't
> explain what happened. I have come to believe that we are all like cosmic
> antennas. When we are opened up with ourselfs, other things get in that
> we are aware of. My experience was on night I was recordind a song in my
> basement, when I heard these voices calling my name comming from a corner
> of the room. I thought nothing of it. Latter on, the guitarest in my
> band, who is a firm disbeliever in anything "supernatural", looked at me
> and said "do you hear that?" it was a screaming sound from the corner. I
> had, so we both left the house. When we got outside, he froze up and
> started yelling that something was holding him there at my house! We
> jumped in the car and took of for a few hours to get coffee and chill out
> a little. When we got back though, it got even worse. We decided to just
> camp out in the basement. When I took of my shirt to go to bed, there
> were these these scratch-mark scar tissue marks running down my chest.
> The guitarist said "look at that!" and when he leaned over to touch them
> my cat dove at his face like the cat in "pet Cemitary." When we woke up
> the scars were gone, but on the tape of the song all there is are growling
> noises!
> Very strange. Charlie
>
> On Sat, 3 May 1997, Amy Wilder wrote:
>
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> > Some wierd things have been happening to me, beginning last night and
> > lasting this morning. First of all, last night around 12:45 I was dozing
> > off and pretty much asleep when I was rudely awakened by a loud zzzzzZZ!
> > (kind of like someone unzipping something really fast) and felt something
> > swipe my face. As my head went back, my eyes opened and I sat up. My
> > face was numb, I had to feel it to make sure it wasn't bleeding. That
> > whole thing was kind of like when you have a 'falling' dream that
> > startles you awake, except something scratched my face. So I sat there
> > for a while, very wide awake, praying to everyone I could think of,
> > though not really scared. When I started relaxing, I heard my mom's dorr
> > open really loud. I called her name a few times but got no answer so I
> > went in her room; she was asleep.
> >
> > This morning, I was helping deliver meals on wheels. I had to go outside
> > after we were done to get a cooler out of the car. I opened to door of
> > the senior center to go out, and tried pushing it closed behind me, but
> > it wouldn't close. It was stuck. I let go and it slammed against the
> > wall and stayed there (there was no wind btw), until I got the cooler out
> > of the car. When I was going in, the door followed centimeters behind me
> > and slammed shut as soon as I was through. I didn't even touch it!
> >
> > Anyway..
> > Amy

These things are not wierd at all, it is the manifestation of lower
forces in our environment, you opened yourself likely through music to
it. Amy has been dealing with a lot of self involvment while being a
very open young women all around.

The answer isn't fear, it is knowledge. There is a lot to be done in
terms of learning how to deal directly with this, but first it is
important to recognize it is illusion and yet very much a part of this
world in its creative aspect.

If you are interested in talking about this directly write me at
lodpressATnospamintercomm.com Gloria
> >
> >
Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 18:51:13 -1000 (HST)
From: Raja Bose <sun1212ATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
Message-Id: <199705050451.SAA16755ATnospamhaleakala.aloha.net>

Hello, my name is Raja and I've been having these experiences for a while,
mild ones when I first started meditating & doing devotional practices
to God about 12 years ago. But right know I'm going through major
energy rushes daily. Just today I was lying on my back and had
uncontrolable spasms mostly originating below my middle back above my
lower chakra. I also feel a tingling warm sensation in my 1st chakra.
All this energy has brought quite a deal of havoc to my personal life.
My mood swings eratically, it's difficult to control. I am staying
with my father and a lot of unresolved emotional issues are comming
up through the kundalini. Lots of anger & resentment.
In January I ended up in a Mental Hospital for a 2 week stay. I'm still
sorta unstable, but I'm finding that physical excersize helps, like
weight lifting, biycicling, walking. The more physically exerting
the better.
I've also started doing some yoga which greatly increases the energy
flow, sometimes to the point that my muscles are sore, but this sorness
also seems to pass.
Please E-mail me & share your experience,
Thankyou.
Date: Sun, 04 May 1997 02:28:26 -0400
From: Dolce Vita <lissetteATnospambridge.net>
To: Tom Aston <yogi.tomATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, Bruno Callipari <bruno_cATnospammildura.net.au>
Subject: Re: Reply to Yogi Tom
Message-ID: <336C2C8A.40C3ATnospambridge.net>

Hi Tom,

You have become the therapyst/advisor of a lot of k-lytes, including
myself. Thank you for your presence here with us. We would like to have
your picture too. Please! send one to Franz.
We love you Tom...
Lissette
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 02:56:04 +0100
From: vic bonds <wildwingsATnospampeconic.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Unidentified subject!
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Hi,
 

I have been having nightmares
about you
I think i have seen enough
for two
you dont know what you do
to me
i think i deserve a better woman
than you
you wont let him get with
 anything
I need you to tellhim that I am
yours
and you are mine for all time
so fine
Lets talk about it another day
in may
like tomorrow
if you tell time like you did today
Ill, excuse me
if I do this you will swear that I am
in love with you,
 because I know what you are doing
 inside your hide
is precious to me you see I love you so
I wont let you go
my lady friend
If you don t mind I will hide inside your
coat pocket
you know what pocket
I mean
the one that you save for me
entirely
 the heart that will set you free
for enternity
Hey sweetie, I am me, you see
I have only myself to share
 like you
I adore you and I want to share
my self with you
I see that you are not a quitter
and that is good
you can go easy on this major
decision
 that if you can talk to me when
you are free
 that will be enough for me
 for I see that you are not free
 of you lover
that is true to me
 and you see I believe I can
remind you
that I love you for the same reason
 I am that
I cant beieve you would do this to
yourself
alter truth to suit yourself
 I will agree that You are Free
and that means alot to me
and you know who wrote this
 your soul mam
Yes thats who, and if you ever
doubt the truth
dont be afraid to write a letter
to me
 for I am you and you are me
 and we are free together.

I love you more than anything
in the world
I want you more than anything
in the world
I need you more than anything
in the world
I'd die for anything to see this
my love
 for you see I see none of this
my friend
 for I am so heartbroken ,
by you that I am canceled out
of the conversation until you
are done.
That friend we are talking about
is you , girl, you know, I think
you did not get it at all,
what I am saying is that I love
 you and I want to participate
 in your upbringing and your
 getting well again soon
 Ill be going home to Florida
 to see my friend , again
 in the flesh
 for finally I am beginning
to see
reality, again
and if you ever lose it to God
again
I will chase after Him like
a story book with no end,
dont you see the effect you
have on him and me writting
this all down
I feel like book and clown
rolled into one
yes you know what I mean
I mean to say that you are
really really really really
really really really really
 in love with you Guru
 and your Master who
 is a Sorcerer of the
Higher Kind
 the one that saved your
Ass
when you went flat on your
 back
and you take that back
or Ill make you eat your hat
yes I am bad
yes I am glad
to see you are back
with this note
I will show all those
who crave guidance
that it is not easy to
be a Man who is Free
and you know how much
I love you so dont do this
to me again,
and shout to the world
that I am back again
to haunt you
again and again and
afraid of that,
well I will be back,
to haunt you again
and again and again
you know I wont let
you go until you take
you hands off the keys
so do me a favor
and wait until later
to be free
of me
Yes I have been waiting
all day
in may to do this one
thing I can do
and that is to love you
I know it is impolite
to acknowledge what I can do
so why dont you do it
verberally
yes I see that you did
and may I sincerely say
you can delight me too.
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 04:36:40 -0300
From: asterixATnospamiis.com.br (Audo Mencarini Junior)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Help, me, please, I know you can .
Message-Id: <199705050736.EAA14846ATnospamhome.iis.com.br>
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Dear friends :

 
Please direct a copy of these message to all people that can help .

i need your help, and ask for it with love and deep respect.because have a,
for while, unidentified disease ? It started, a year ago, with a very strong
headache which lasted during a whole month, leaving me in complete despair.
 Finally, it stopped by itself, leaving me like would be in little peaces,
but alive.
 After some months ago, after the headache, have been feeling that my
fingers, in the left hand, mainly the little one, and now the last three,
are lacking sensitivity. And, now, since three days ago, have a strange
symptom which is the following :
When sleep start to sweet heavily just in the back of my head and
shoulders, although is cold outside, wake up suddenly with my pillow totally
wet, and which is worst with a sensation that all is vage and that my head
is totally empty, feel that it is a very strong symptom, don't think that i
can resist to it during a long time. It has started suddenly, and is very
strong. So, now, i am afraid of sleeping. It doesn't happen in such amount
during the day when i am waked up. But during the night, when i sleep, it
cames . Help me, please.For while the more than 10 physicians (neurologists)
couldn't do something for me .They couldn't even give me something to start.
They say i am stressed. i don't feel like was stressed, but maybe i am.i am
becaming worried, and becaming weak
and tired. Need your help,sincerely, and send love for you all. i believe in
love, with all my hearth, and used to heal many people, before,but now, at
this time, I am needing to be helped. Help me, please!!

i am 47 year's old, three kids,kundalini practicioner , and have felt these
symptoms before, some times, just in a brief way, since some months ago. Now
is very heavy.If you need more informations, feel free to ask me.
 A recent blood examination, with all normal tests, didn't discover any trace
of infection. I'll do another one.

Love and peace for you all, forever.
  

Sincerely yours,

Aldo Mencarini
asterixATnospamiis.com.br

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