1997/05/03 16:17
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #209
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 209
Today's Topics:
Dreamtime Encounters/New Introduction
SATAN Appreciation day
Universal Replies
troubled lovers part 2
vision
waking Dream
Re: Dreamtime Encounters/New Introduction
Progress report . . . and thanks
wierd stuff
Re: Progress report . . . and thanks
foundation
Kemetic Yoga
Ashtanga yoga
Me and Hitler
darn ego
Me and Hitler
Re: darn ego
Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 20:57:15 -0500
From: "Spiral" <spiral-3ATnospamworldnet.att.net>
To: "Kundalini Mailing List" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Dreamtime Encounters/New Introduction
Message-ID: <19970503015744.AAA9906ATnospamrjiredff>
Hi All,
Gloria Greco recently presented her thoughts on how we have come together
on this list for a reason. She suggested that the conversations that take
place here are, in some way, mirroring contacts that have taken, or are
taking, place amongst us in the spirit realm. She also suggested that
these meetings take place when we sleep, and can be experienced in our
dreams.
As a way of introducing myself to you, I would like to share a recent dream
which I intuitively felt certain had to do with this list: I was being
initiated into a group of very warm and wise people who were in a large
room standing around in a circle. I seemed to be surrounded by love.
There was even a man who seemed to be inviting me to dance with him. But I
felt scared, awkward. Didn't know if I was adequately prepared. The
initiation required me to give a talk. I hadn't any idea what to talk
about. I reflected on all my academic training in psychology. None of
that would do. Someone then showed me photographs from various times in my
life. Some of them were of me naked. I thought to myself," That's what
I'll talk about - my nakedness". I then began my initiation talk by
saying, "I'm here to speak from experience". The dream ended.
My kundalini awakening occurred three years ago and I've been pretty much
alone with it, relying heavily on books, inner guides, and supportive
Jungian analysts to help get me through. I'm 38, single, gay, and work as
a clinical psychologist. My life and worldview have changed so
dramatically as a result of this process, the best I can do here is just to
say that it's been rough, that it some ways I do feel naked as a newborn,
and I have a hard time finding the right "voice" out of which to talk about
it.
My identity as a clinical psychologist has in many ways been shattered. I
was in training to become a Jungian analyst, and I've had to let that go
too for now. On the positive side, my intuitive abilities just seem to get
keener and keener and my work with clients has never been better. I've
been able to allow myself to be vulnerable with friends and family in ways
never seen before!
Well, that's all for now. This list has been incredibly helpful to me.
Thank you all. Maybe I'm ready to join the dance!
Greg Gilliam
Date: Fri, 02 May 1997 18:52:41 -0700
From: Mad Coyote joe <joeATnospamflarity.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
CC: "Karen Meek ; PaulaFlarityATnospampdq.net" <0002005675ATnospamMCIMAIL.COM>
Subject: SATAN Appreciation day
Message-ID: <336A9A68.125DATnospamflarity.com>
Dear God,
With deepest humility, I think I understand that even the most
enlightened among us may need to stop at the corner duality drugstore
from time to time. I would like to share with you my sincerest thanks
and appreciation for the job the present SATAN is doing in that realm.
When his tour is up, I would like to recommend that he have the
opportunity to re-up if he so desires and my prostate self can think of
no better candidate. However, I suspect that he will have other paths
to trod and you might be seeking a replacement.
Should your consciousness turn in my direction, I would be most honored
that you think well enough of my abilities to consider me as a ruler of
this tremendous kingdom. But I do have grave doubts as to my abilities
and there is no way in hell I would make the "SATAN Hall of Fame"
board.
I may even so badly bumble it that the whole of duality would be
ruined. This would deny billions of life forms a framework to define
their existence and cause terrible hardship on many professions that
make their living conjuring duality.
Perhaps you should consider other souls who have more demonstrated
success with SATAN type manifestations. Hitler, Stalin and Amin come
immediately to my minuscule mind.
Please don't consider me impertinent to raise these questions God. If
you ask, I will serve and I will do my level damnedest to be the most
evil I can be--for the benefit of all duality. Perhaps I will surprise
myself.
HAAAAA HAAAAAAAA HAAAAAAAAAAAA (EVIL LAUGHTER)
Dear K list members,
If you spend much time looking into the mirror, as I do, squinting for
threads of the universe. Please remember that the real universe has all
possibilities. If you are saying, "Give me Door number 3", you may be
adding a filter to the very thing you seek.
I say, "OPEN all doors and let scent of my true path waft me like a
penny balloon in the May breeze."
Spring ambrosia to us all,
joe
Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 15:16:34 +1000
From: Bruno Callipari <bruno_cATnospammildura.net.au>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Universal Replies
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THANKYOU TO ALL WHO BANDED TOGETHER AND REPLIED TO MY POST. THEY ARE:)
(in order of receipt)
TOM:) thankyou for sending the article, I didn't even have to ask
for it in the end aye?! I am yet to read it because I wanted to reply as
soon as I got the mailings from everyone.
I am up to wk. starting July 17 1989 in my diary editing/writing.
Control should prevail even more when it is publishable, the work has been
done I've just got to make sense of it.
I *will* order "The Kundalini Experience" by Lee Sannella and jam a
few copies (not just one) up the nose of my latest Sharon Stone'esque
psychiatrist. Her opinion is final and it is plainly not to believe in
kundalini or even my good naturopath - She says for talking sake that its a
cross cultural thing > more like a cross reference that she can't locate -
She's blond and damn attractive which sadly fills the picture - too bad for
her cute button nose then aye?!
What's a Grof? Or do you mean Profs? (professors) Stanislav and
Christina?
All through the journey I actually kept contact with mainly the
family, I didn't know the address of my new friends in Alice Springs N.T.
But I yearned to explain to them something and always stayed adament that I
was an exceptional case to mental illness. Now I say I don't have it when I
get the opportunity and rightfully put in its place that it was K. But it's
hard for me to explain concretely what the K is and I hope with your support
and the rest of the list who responded, that I will find out.
Please do let me know of spiritual practices to do. From bruno_c
KEN:)! how right you were, many did reach out to me, 8 including you
so far! *That was very cool of you all*
A question I now want to work with is -statement- Suppose Kundalini
will be the higher state we'll all be in one day what happens in the
meantime and do we use it apart from our personalities as being good people.
Ken the problem of loving is that I can't show it if I wanted to, it
hasn't reached many people and I'll only be satisfied when I can reach many
people with my love because a whole lot of it has been stolen from me.
LOBSTER:) I agree - I'm not psychotic and if I was I'd be wanting to
kill someone wouldn't I? (How do you like your seafood anyway?) Your not
wrong when you say my experiences made me crazy (in the generic sense). I
was put in a place of high level confinement yet without criminal intent -
your damn right - it made me bullgoose looney man.
So, do Zen Masters and the like advertise? How the heck do I find
them. I've been into New Agers and had an affinity inkling with Tibetan
Buddhists actually - why are they softer options?
I will join Spiritual Renewal Course - arcATnospaminame.com Why is it a
difficult option?
Regarding my capacity, what work needs to be done?
So what is it am I crazy or am I a kundalite? You can't seem to
differentiate the 2. You're in mixed minds matey and yes you're probly
right that *you're* crazy and I'm not. The way out is the way in...bruno_c
R.A.CASTELLI:) Thankyou for the book list - some sick humour going
on there though. from bruno_c
M.:) It melts me when you write that my 'post was touching'.
Spiritual foundation can be K-prayer can't it?
MYSTRESS ANGELIQUE:) That's funny - my favourite sister is a lot
like you (except for the b+d, but who knows). I don't mind that you're not
a medical reference either. I got one reply from a doctor actually today so
that should be helpful.
Quack Quack - my reality is a feather on a shallow lake - its never
really wet. The Ugly Duckling was my favourite tale - it grew into a
shining swan. Maybe I will too.
I definitley wouldn't recommend pot with tobacco - it sends you high
as a kite, it left me depressed for a week after that.
I was said to have heard voices and I took all these flowers and
branches and things I thought had spiritual depth, after going to 2 sessions
of Church and weeping profusely. I wore my grandma's black cardigan.
I don't know what my purpose in life is if it doesn't include people
and activities. Could it be my artistic pursuits - they're always lonely.
What's yours?
I wanted to be a popular vocalist performer and make videoclips. My
contribution must be expressive beauty - I value it highly. So now it
doesn't matter if its not en masse?
I can only put it down to the meaning of life is to learn certain
disciplines and to enjoy the dreams of god that emanate through him and his
makings.
I often think of what I could have (how can't I, I'm always reminded).
I do try to take things as they are and have an inkling one day i'll
be able to make things as I *want*. I think I'm sittin' on a treasure chest
now, just reading your thread is bounteous.
K-awakening across the board will be a relief, but sensuality will
suffer or more like enhance. Is this to happen as the quickening heads
toward 2001AD?
Thankyou for the meditation and concious advice. I will re-read it
many a time. love bruno_c
Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 01:54:59 +0100
From: vic bonds <wildwingsATnospampeconic.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: troubled lovers part 2
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jTroubled Lovers part 2
>
>You are my dream, you are my dream
>I want you to come home to me
>I want me to come home to you
>you are my dream, you are my dream
>I want you to please let your heart free
>to love me
>to love your heart lady to love your heart
>baby, I dont deserve this I dont deserve this
>I love you, I love you my heart my heart
>I need you I need you I need you
>My heart is spoken for, Myheart is spoken for,
>you told me that you would love me forever and a day
>You told me that you would love me forever and a day
>you told her you told her that you would love her
>Oh baby you told me you wouldnt go away
>you told me you wouldnt go away go away
>you told me you hurt me I told her I didnt do anything wrong
>you told me you hurt me I told her I didnt do any thing wrong
>I did do something wrong I did do something right, oh baby
>I did do something wrong I did do something right, on a moonlight night
>You know that I love you that I love you that I love you
>that I need you that I need you baby its all right its all right
>I love you so I cant let you go I love you so I cant let know
>You really got a hold on me you really got a hold of me
>you know, girl, I know my fate, I know my fate, I know my fate
>is withmy heart, is with my heart, in your heart, in your heart
>that you can see how wonderful it can be together forever
>I know that I love you that I need you I love your heart
>I love your hair, I love your eyes, I love your hair,I need your love....
>
Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 02:17:34 -0400
From: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net>
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: vision
Message-ID: <336AD87E.2156ATnospammail.snet.net>
At the waterhole.
Moments rise,
And fall like empires.
I bring my cupped hands,
To my lips, and drink.
Of the collective soul.
Suddenly!
Inspiration strikes like lighting.
Then, thunder settles in.
And, in forming clouds.
Archetype dream.
On the big screen.
Assemblage point scans the orb.
The archives of Mind.
A primal scream.
Like a cosmic beam.
Shoots into infinity.
Fire, wind and sand.
Sparks, ash and dust.
Spewing.
Volcanic eruption.
Exploding.
Earthquake.
Womb. Tunnel. Edge.
Smoke. Can't see. Choking.
Struggle. Confusion.
Struggle...friction.
Struggle...blackness.
A thousand dreams all at once.
Madness.
Struggle to escape.
Struggle...to be born.
Eternity passes.
With every last bit of intent,
Finally, emerge!
Purged.
Silence.
No boundry.
Countless bubbles of
Pure Consciousness ascend.
Racing up.
And collect into a pearl.
Each a life's jouney.
A journey of the heart.
And from blinding
Mysterious light.
A great eagle.
Born of all Intent.
Descends.
And swallows the pearl.
Home.
Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 08:53:28 +0100
From: vic bonds <wildwingsATnospampeconic.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: waking Dream
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Inland Journey with my Creature Comforts
I had this dream while I was awake, yesterday,
I have been visited,steadily, by Spirits of all sorts,
who pushed light energy into me, up into my legs
one did forge a light barrier around my waist
watching him do it, I said my Grace
with the light getting so very,very, bright
I quietly, very quietly, closed my eyes
It formed a very Intense, arch of light,
that dropped down to my skin, so tight,
flowing round,and round like a circlet of gold
then, the Spirits all said "happy Birthday to you",all told
I was asked if I wanted to go to Disneyland,
I thought it was an idea, so grand
In the Spirit, I asked, all agreed
that that was the right way, to do it for me
Finding a spirit lover on the bed, behind me
and many more spirits and friends, below my feet
a whole village interlaced and crossed-hatched, so free
lying on the ground, in a chain of infinity
to catch the Fire, as it started erupting from me
to catch in their hearts, minds, and souls,eternity
My lover, besides me, with much intensity, so
very intently, whispering love's words in rhyme
over and over and over again, he said, he said
he breathed he breathed he breathed
the breathes of fire, so lovingly,
I breathe I breathe I breathe in rhythym,
to his magic to his magic, his magical breathe,
not moving not moving not moving, we waited,
for the lightening to erupt from my soul, in quiet,
in quiet, quietly, we waited, for a very long time,
It was so profound, soul up and down, so profound,
the Teacher watch, all the while, looking all around,
we could all hear each other's thoughts looking down,
deep in our individual souls,we spoke to each others,
in deep deep silence of love's eternal love, all Free,
it was so quiet, we could hear a pin drop, like a shot gun of God,
this act of His is so profound, so profound, in the spirit,
it was done, laying on the ground, on the ground in lyrics,
of love,
we fell asleep we fell asleep with no tangible results,
It was for this and this alone, to learn spirit love,
don't do any act of sorcery, or you will burn
with spirit's Love exploding inside your heart and mind,
in kind, if you know the rules, if you don't know the rules,
It could still have a disasterous result a disasterous result,
You could fall in Love...again and again and again and again......
Love to you,
Raven (Victoria)
~V~
Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 10:27:33 -0700
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
CC: jan.watsonATnospamsympatico.ca
Subject: Re: Dreamtime Encounters/New Introduction
Message-ID: <336B7585.2EDDATnospamdial.pipex.com>
Hi Spiral,
> As a way of introducing myself to you, I would like to share a recent dream
> which I intuitively felt certain had to do with this list: I was being
> initiated into a group of very warm and wise people who were in a large
> room standing around in a circle. I seemed to be surrounded by love.
> There was even a man who seemed to be inviting me to dance with him. But I
> felt scared, awkward. Didn't know if I was adequately prepared.
My Dear Greg,
All the parts of a dream are us. Nobody is prepared for unconditional
Love
and when we Dance with Him we have to learn the more subtle and gentle
rhythms
as well as the more frenetic beats. This element is the Unknown but we
will slowly get used to this deeper part of our own self . . .
> The
> initiation required me to give a talk. I hadn't any idea what to talk
> about. I reflected on all my academic training in psychology. None of
> that would do. Someone then showed me photographs from various times in my
> life. Some of them were of me naked. I thought to myself," That's what
> I'll talk about - my nakedness". I then began my initiation talk by
> saying, "I'm here to speak from experience". The dream ended.
This is the continuation of the dream in which your nakedness is now
exposed to us.
> My identity as a clinical psychologist has in many ways been shattered. I
> was in training to become a Jungian analyst, and I've had to let that go
> too for now. On the positive side, my intuitive abilities just seem to get
> keener and keener and my work with clients has never been better. I've
> been able to allow myself to be vulnerable with friends and family in ways
> never seen before!
>
> Well, that's all for now. This list has been incredibly helpful to me.
> Thank you all. Maybe I'm ready to join the dance!
It seems like you have been dancing a while. The dance is good anaology
because it is to do with harmony and resonance. When we dance in this
sense, though we are sometimes awkward and hesitant - this too is
acceptable and has its own rhythm.
You and everyone else here are finding a resonance and a rhythm that is
based on cooperation and mutual support. That says, if you are broken -
we want you whole. If you are whole - heal others. If you are shy, we
want to hear about you. If you have wisdom - share.
This then is a shared dance - a dance where we bring the best of what we
are and what we have to offer.
Welcome. Dance.
Most Kind Regards
Lobster
Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 13:01:29 -0700
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Progress report . . . and thanks
Message-ID: <336B9999.3376ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
Some of you are kind enough to include my cousin
Steve Swiszczowski
in your prayers and blessings.
Just recently the quality of the posts changed
there was a new strength (the fear he mentions is part of that new
strength)
and then this was sent, which includes the reply
I feel it has much relevance
and I hope people will forgive me for posting it in full
I feel your involvement is crucial to where he needs to go now
Please continue with your efforts . . .
Most Kind and Gratful Regards
Lobster
----------------------
Hi Steve,
Lobster said:
> > the cause of most disease is partly physiological and partly due to a
> process that can be very healing in a much broader sense - it is an
> oppurtunity to look at ones life with greater depth
Steve said:
> Oh God! That's frighteneing! And I have a strong sense of the likelihood of
> it being true.
> Perhaps I "should" feel excited, but I don't, just feel terrified.
> Re-evaluating one's life, gaining understanding, moving it to some new plane
> - all frightening, exciting, and interesting things. But doing those things
> AND accepting my illness - that's really frightening!
Is it not also perhaps true that part of the reason that it creates
disquiet
is it because illness is something we can look at
but ourselves where the illness resides we can not?
People spend all their life looking for some contentment and purpose
outside of themselves and everything eventually points back to them.
We can worry
We can pray
We can run away
but the most satisfying option is to confront the terror
when you accept something, you are no longer fighting it
but working with it - why is it here? - what can it teach me?
who is the cause of it?
It is here because of me
Part of me has caused it
It is trying to tell me something . . .
> How curious that science and medecine, such a noble-seeming endeavour, can in
> a way "protect" one from these difficult spiritual challenges and
> opportunities for growth, by providing "easier" options - like cure,
> treatment, pain relief. (Have you read Brave New World? A great book, which
> deals with such issues, among others.)
Yes I have read this. You can not run away from pain, illness or
yourself and that is the issue. You can use it.
> Soon after I was diagnosed, I saw a library book entitled "Love Your
> Illness". I didn't get it off the shelf. Its title alone was so disturbing:
> Love, it said, not just accept. And it didn't even care what the illness
> was! As though any illness could, or even should, be loved! How
> frightening!
Your illness Steve
is it a manifestation of part of yourself?
Why should you not Love yourself?
Why are you undeserving of Love?
All your fear - all of it - all in your own head.
All the Love you could ever find - all of it - all in your own Heart.
You Steve are the cause and the solution.
> If I see it again, I'll flip through. Is that progress? Will I read it one
> day, I wonder?
Empowerment is feeling scared and yet confronting that fear
- even looking for it . . .
Order it!
Are you really so fearful of Love and growth
- of acceptance?
> Re-assess my life, accept my illness? I think I prefer to listen to CDs,
> enjoy jokes, learn about Windows 95, sequence music etc.
mmm . . .
we all prefer to run away and we all have that choice.
I know this fear, we all have it but it is not really fear
- it is loneliness - we are alone - nobody will ever know us
we try and fill our lives with people and things
but in our fear and loneliness there is a great Power and Strength
CD's, jokes, Win 95 and sequence music are all great fun
and even more so when the fear is conquered . . .
Are we really alone, are we really afraid?
What exactly are we?
Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 11:52:59 -0500 (CDT)
From: Amy Wilder <awilderATnospammail.coin.missouri.edu>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: wierd stuff
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Hello all,
Some wierd things have been happening to me, beginning last night and
lasting this morning. First of all, last night around 12:45 I was dozing
off and pretty much asleep when I was rudely awakened by a loud zzzzzZZ!
(kind of like someone unzipping something really fast) and felt something
swipe my face. As my head went back, my eyes opened and I sat up. My
face was numb, I had to feel it to make sure it wasn't bleeding. That
whole thing was kind of like when you have a 'falling' dream that
startles you awake, except something scratched my face. So I sat there
for a while, very wide awake, praying to everyone I could think of,
though not really scared. When I started relaxing, I heard my mom's dorr
open really loud. I called her name a few times but got no answer so I
went in her room; she was asleep.
This morning, I was helping deliver meals on wheels. I had to go outside
after we were done to get a cooler out of the car. I opened to door of
the senior center to go out, and tried pushing it closed behind me, but
it wouldn't close. It was stuck. I let go and it slammed against the
wall and stayed there (there was no wind btw), until I got the cooler out
of the car. When I was going in, the door followed centimeters behind me
and slammed shut as soon as I was through. I didn't even touch it!
Anyway..
Amy
Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 11:45:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: M <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net>
To: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Progress report . . . and thanks
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Lobster said:
> > the cause of most disease is partly physiological and partly due to a
> process that can be very healing in a much broader sense - it is an
> oppurtunity to look at ones life with greater depth
Dearest Crustaceon,
May I (humbly and with fondness) add to this list: cosmic agreements made
between lives to benefit one's own soul and/or others' souls - the revealing
of which would lessen the benefits to all concerned. A type of experiential
koan if you will...
M
PS Loved the photo...
Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 12:25:22 -0700 (PDT)
From: M <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net>
To: Bruno Callipari <bruno_cATnospammildura.net.au>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: foundation
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>M.:) It melts me when you write that my 'post was touching'.
Spiritual foundation can be K-prayer can't it?
>
Any higher power or higher source you trust. Higher Self takes some time to
build a strong and trusting friendship with, so maybe not 'him' just now.
There is a lot written about the various states of mind and being comparing
several states of consciousness with traditionally labeled mental health
problems. Transpersonal psychology is a good catch-all phrase for works you
might want to look up and explore. There will be much comfort there for you
(you'll feel more normal and/or mystical as opposed to 'crazy') and such
readings may help you discover a shorter path than the one you seem to be
treading currently.
A Roger Walsh, MD, PhD has done some comparison charting of Shaminism, yoga,
and schizo- phrenia for instance, but he seems less sure-footed (and more
cautiously academic) about it than say, Ken Wiber. If you can get a copy of
his "Paths beyond ego in the coming decade" I think you would find a grander
perspective from which to view yourself. It is a paper he delivered and I
found it in a book of essays edited by Walsh, title: Paths Beyond Ego: The
Transpersonal Vision. The paper may be available elsewhere as well.
Trusting in your continued progress toward integrating the 'weird' into a
comfortable and healthy state of being,
M
Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 15:59:53 -0400 (EDT)
From: CGIAJWATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Kemetic Yoga
Message-ID: <970503155952_-1031302209ATnospamemout07.mail.aol.com>
Does anyone have information on Kemetic (Egyptian based) yoga?
Aaron
CGI AJWATnospamaol.com
Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 16:01:12 -0400 (EDT)
From: CGIAJWATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Ashtanga yoga
Message-ID: <970503160108_86656067ATnospamemout13.mail.aol.com>
Does anyone have information on Ashtanga Yoga?
Aaron
CGI AJWATnospamaol.com
Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 08:44:15 -0700
From: Mad Coyote joe <joeATnospamflarity.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
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Subject: Me and Hitler
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My 8 year old son would say:
"That's Hitler and I, Dad."
The swallows are back in the Great Northwest
careening wildly about
They would have thanked me to open the window
and let that fly escape---
but I killed it.
It seemed like the thing to do at that time.
A man in Tacoma last month
threw his 2 small children
out the third story window.
They lived
with broken bones.
Hilter threw his children
out the window for 12 years.
He had excellent focus.
When you think of him
and feel horrified
Please consider that you just might
be touching
pieces of you.
And the Donovan CD 'Sutras' is outstanding. Thanks to whoever
recommended it. The above post was inspired by Jewel's CD 'Pieces of
You'. That is one extremely profound kid with a voice like an angel.
'What's that say about me--Daddy'
love,
joe
Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 15:17:19 -0500 (CDT)
From: Nothing Is <holi0007ATnospamitlabs.umn.edu>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: darn ego
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95q.970503151621.21716A-100000ATnospampiranha.itlabs.umn.edu>
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....darn ego gets its dirty little hands on it can grab ahold of....
bye, nothing is
Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 11:33:00 -0700
From: Mad Coyote joe <joeATnospamflarity.com>
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Me and Hitler
Message-ID: <336B84DC.4303ATnospamflarity.com>
My 8 year old son would say:
"That's Hitler and I, Dad."
The swallows are back in the Great Northwest
careening wildly about
They would have thanked me to open the window
and let that fly escape---
but I killed it.
It seemed like the thing to do at that time.
A man in Tacoma last month
threw his 2 small children
out the third story window.
They lived
with broken bones.
Hilter threw his children
out the window for 12 years.
He had excellent focus.
When you think of him
and feel horrified
Please consider that you just might
be touching
pieces of you.
This post was inspired by Jewel's CD 'Pieces of
You'. She is one extremely profound kid with a voice like an angel.
Thank you, whoever recommended the Donovan CD 'Sutras'. It is
outstanding.
'What's that say about me--Daddy'
love,
joe
ps: This is my third posting of this note. I wonder if that is not
saying something to me--Momma
Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 16:28:42 -0500 (CDT)
From: Nothing Is <holi0007ATnospamitlabs.umn.edu>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: darn ego
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95q.970503162800.21743A-100000ATnospampiranha.itlabs.umn.edu>
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OOps
*anything* it can grab ahold of
On Sat, 3 May 1997, Nothing Is wrote:
> ....darn ego gets its dirty little hands on it can grab ahold of....
>
> bye, nothing is
>
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