1997/04/24 19:47
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #191
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 191
Today's Topics:
We are synchronous
Re: Dear confused in Florida
Re: We are synchronous
Re: Healing status ON
Re: Comments on two related posts (Forcing Shakti and another)
Re: (Forcing Shakti,and Promises, Promises, Promises.)
RE: We are synchronous
Unidentified subject!
Re: We are synchronous
synchronisty
Re: synchronisty
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 11:54:56 -0700
From: Pamela <pamelaATnospamserv.net>
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: We are synchronous
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Gloria said:
<snip>
We didn't just happen to fall into a conversation, spirit doesn't work
that way, especially kundalini and the Holy Spirit in this hour and year
as millennium energies manifest. Let's get clear on this if we can...we
sleep at night, leave our bodies, and have all agreed to carry on this
conversation or it couldn't manifest in our waking state over these
computers. We have to know each other in the spirit world in order to
even manifest this conversation.
<snip>
So, we are not just having idle conversation, we are creating an
energy field that is empowered by specific frequencies of spirit for a
very unique and specific purpose, what exactly it is at any given moment
is not apparent.
<snip>
Gloria,
I believe this as well. I have some people I know who are just starting
out their "spirit journey" and when they tell me that the "feel" this
bond with me or they are really intrigued by my philosophy I usually,
say to them it's because in the spirit world we made an agreement. We
decided that at a certain times, places and in certain ways we would
find each other. We would communicate or spend some time in each others
lives to fulfill some type of spiritual goal, enlightenment or something
to help each other evolve some how.
I don't believe anything happens by chance, whether it's something
positive or negative it happens for a reason. Sometimes when we are
going through the negative it may seem like something we don't need but
it is usually something we already agreed to before we got these bodies
or something to help us grow spiritually.
For example I now know, (because of the members on this list) that about
6 years ago when I lived in Nevada and thought I had a nervous break
down, that actually it was a kundalini thing. I went through three years
of hell. (or so it seemed) I thought I was losing my mind. I moved here
to Seattle and everything changed by leaps and bounds in my life. But
had I not come to this list, I would still attach serious negativity to
a place and people who had nothing to do with the fact that my Kundalini
decided to become active back then.
I know I have learned a lot from the people on this list. I thoroughly
enjoy many of the posts and feel honored to be "a part " of this
Kundalini family. We are all here for a specific reason with each other.
On a spiritual level, somehow we all know what that reason is.
Enough rambling, just good to be here with you all !
--
.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:.
"Life does not happen to us, it happens from within us."
---------- Mike Wickett
.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:.
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 12:25:11 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: Dominic & Maureen Marando <chelseaATnospamsuperaje.com>
CC: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Dear confused in Florida
Message-ID: <335F4317.7BEFATnospamintercomm.com>
Dominic & Maureen Marando wrote:
>
> Hi Folks...
>
> Confused in Florida wrote:
>
> >I guess my question would be is, if someone is to receive a healing,
> >don't they have to be receptive to it (on a soul level),
>
> .......actually no.......I just finished reading a wonderful book on healing
> (The Uncommon Touch..Tom Harpur)....who, for back up, uses data from studies
> which show, among other benefits of prayer....babies who are prayed for do
> better (and they wouldn't know about being receptive or non-receptive) and
> plants and animals prayed for also do better than a control
> group........same went for sick people who had no idea they were being
> prayed for.........Prayer works...we don't know why but it does.......so
> what the heck...let's pray.
>
> >Please recall that I just lost my love of my life and he was sent many
> >many prayers, love, energy, and healings by many people to no avail. In
> >which others in turn reply, 'well, it was his time', or 'it was his
> >choice to leave his body.' Understand they said 'his choice', not
> >mine or yours. Excuses! Bah! Why bother? (I'd really like to
> >know).
>
> ............"others" may be just trying to comfort. But forget all that "New
> Age" mumbo jumbo. You have a loss and it hurts like hell and you have every
> reason to cry and scream at the universe. Tell God how you feel. He can
> handle it. It may or may not have been his time and some people have no
> choice and are NOT ready to die when it is "their time". You have a right to
> be angry and feel your pain...and rage, rage "against the dying of the
> light." (just remember the light goes on).
>
> Best wishes,
> Mo
>
> http://members.aol.com/Teeegeee/tgshome.html <~~~~ on the web now!
>
> On Thu, 24 Apr 1997 08:17:24 -0700 John Halonen <halonenjATnospamix.netcom.com>
> writes:
> >Maybe we could leave the subject "Miraculous Healing"
> >And in the body give the persons name.
> >
> >We could all send love and energy.
> >
> >John Halonen
> >
> >At 04:31 PM 4/23/97 PDT, Claudia McNeely wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>----------
> >>> Dear people,
> >>>
> >>> Why not start a healing list?
> >>>
> >>> Just a brief entry of person's name and age would be sufficient, to
> >>> establish vibration and energy connection.
> >>>
> >>> I for one would be delighted to meditate on such names on a regular
> >>> basis.
> >>>
> >>> Don't forget that it is some people's healing to actually die, but
> >the
> >>> transition can be made so much more comfortable if people send love
> >in
> >>> their direction.
> >>>
> >>> 'Miraculous' healing is an aspect of K power - so why not use it?
> >>> Experience the joy of helping others become aligned with their
> >highest
> >>> good.
> >>>
> >>> Love and peace
> >>>
> >>> jens
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>Great idea!!!
> >>
> >>Claudia McNeely
> >>whitedoveATnospamtexramp.net
> >>www.texramp.net/~whitedove
> >>Facilitating gentle healing on all levels
HI again,
Prayer is powerful there is no getting around it, especially when it is
conversation with God for the betterment of all. Then it isn't personal
but instead reaches to its highest level. This example is one that
really leaves this impression.
About six months ago now I met a man by the name of Doc Marquis. Doc
was a third degree witch and direct ascendent of the Illumaniti, known
as a eighth generation witch. He describes it as 186 years of service to
the dark forces, since he was born into it he was trained as a witch
from childhood, initiated at the age of 3 into the membership of the
cult. Anyway, at the age of 21 I believe after becoming a third degree
witch while in the service he met a man and his support group that began
to pray for him. He says his demon trap quit working, and all of the
things he did which were successful all of a sudden quit working,
everything just unraveled. It took him three years t surrender to it,
when he did he became born again and now is one of the wold experts on
Satanic worship and cults. I met Doc in Las Vegas a few months ago and
he is quite real. He always ends his presnetation with if you don't
think prayer works, look at me. Because people were praying for my soul,
my life changed, and I know have a spiritual awareness that never
existed from the other space. This is powerful don't you agree. HIs
foundation exposes Satanic Cults and the power machine behind it.
Interesting isn't it? Gloria
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 12:43:44 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: Pamela <pamelaATnospamserv.net>
CC: "Kundalini LarryN3515ATnospamaol.com" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: We are synchronous
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Pamela wrote:
>
> Gloria said:
> <snip>
> We didn't just happen to fall into a conversation, spirit doesn't work
> that way, especially kundalini and the Holy Spirit in this hour and year
> as millennium energies manifest. Let's get clear on this if we can...we
> sleep at night, leave our bodies, and have all agreed to carry on this
> conversation or it couldn't manifest in our waking state over these
> computers. We have to know each other in the spirit world in order to
> even manifest this conversation.
> <snip>
> So, we are not just having idle conversation, we are creating an
> energy field that is empowered by specific frequencies of spirit for a
> very unique and specific purpose, what exactly it is at any given moment
> is not apparent.
> <snip>
>
> Gloria,
> I believe this as well. I have some people I know who are just starting
> out their "spirit journey" and when they tell me that the "feel" this
> bond with me or they are really intrigued by my philosophy I usually,
> say to them it's because in the spirit world we made an agreement. We
> decided that at a certain times, places and in certain ways we would
> find each other. We would communicate or spend some time in each others
> lives to fulfill some type of spiritual goal, enlightenment or something
> to help each other evolve some how.
>
> I don't believe anything happens by chance, whether it's something
> positive or negative it happens for a reason. Sometimes when we are
> going through the negative it may seem like something we don't need but
> it is usually something we already agreed to before we got these bodies
> or something to help us grow spiritually.
>
> For example I now know, (because of the members on this list) that about
> 6 years ago when I lived in Nevada and thought I had a nervous break
> down, that actually it was a kundalini thing. I went through three years
> of hell. (or so it seemed) I thought I was losing my mind. I moved here
> to Seattle and everything changed by leaps and bounds in my life. But
> had I not come to this list, I would still attach serious negativity to
> a place and people who had nothing to do with the fact that my Kundalini
> decided to become active back then.
> I know I have learned a lot from the people on this list. I thoroughly
> enjoy many of the posts and feel honored to be "a part " of this
> Kundalini family. We are all here for a specific reason with each other.
> On a spiritual level, somehow we all know what that reason is.
> Enough rambling, just good to be here with you all !
>
> --
> .:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:.
> "Life does not happen to us, it happens from within us."
> ---------- Mike Wickett
>
> .:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*
Hi Mike,
I'm real happy you got my message and agreed with it. Actually it is
exactly as you have shared. We come in with an assignment, and providing
we stay on course, really listening within for guidance then when the
time comes to remember this commitment it begins to manifest into our
life as action.
This is the way I have lived consciously since childhood, because of
it, I 've attracted those who were ready to remember and enter into a
spiritually directed life practice together. And, this is the only
reason that I am still working with the orginal group that came to me
almost 30 years ago. The group has expanded but the core group is the
same.
I see the work on the k list as the same work now just extended past
the advancing circles. In my case my assignment spiritually was to bring
the Chist frequency into my relationships at every level. That started
in my family with parents etc, out to my core family as a young adult,
married at 17, then through my children, foster children, and on out to
soul family, then to community, state nation, etc.I pubublished a
community good news newspaper for 12 years that brught me directly into
the heart of our N. Nevada community.
As the ripple effect moved from one energy up and out to the next, the
communication process changed with it. Now, having access to
participation lives through this medium, it is like getting to know
someone on an intimiate level once the out of body awareness begins to
manifest to link the higher level with the conscious mind. Many of you
can begin to remember what is happening during training at night school,
that should be the missing link for self remembering.
Several people on the list are working and consciously remembering
communication from sleep, this is already happening. How many others out
there are beginnito explore this awareness. Gloria
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 12:49:21 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Healing status ON
Message-ID: <335F48BF.7B66ATnospamintercomm.com>
E Jason wrote:
>
> - - - - Steve Swiszczowski - - - - - -
>
> STATUS REPORT - Keep the K coming
> - Failure is not an option
> ______
>
> > Well here I am at home!! Yippee - no hospital today! And the God of No Side
> > Effects is still smiling upon me, and I feel well enough to enjoy this day -
> > with the house to myself!!! Something I really love! (And so rare.)
>
> > >>They seem to be expecting me to feel bad.
> > > Defy them!
> >
> > I'll certainly try to, but they say it could happen any time over the next
> > few weeks even though I feel fine now. What a bunch of downers!
>
> ----------------------------------------
>
> Whilst people debate the benefits, merits
> and various possibilities of sending K
> via an email line forum . . .
> Please continue sending your prayers,
> blessings, energy to Steve
>
> --- Blessed are the Blessing ----
>
> Blessed Be
> Most Kind Regards
> Lobster
HI,
Why were you in the hospital? You sound like you are enjoying it just
fine, that is the way to go. I've always really blown people away since
I find those times as special times in my life. I don't have sympathy
for so much of the illness stuff because it can be used for the best
awakening experienceses when you are ready to ride it out. God Bless
YOu. Gloria
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 17:00:03 -0400 (EDT)
From: CGIAJWATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Comments on two related posts (Forcing Shakti and another)
Message-ID: <970424165949_1684873171ATnospamemout14.mail.aol.com>
In a message dated 4/23/97 2:40:36 PM, you wrote:
>Two weeks!?!?!?! Wow such dedication!! Did you follow the directions? Did
you
>
>add water, beat for 5 minutes, pour into a stick-free pan, then bake in an
over
>
>for 30 min at 425? And it still didn't work???
>
>Sorry to be so harsh, especially if its your first time to post, but get
real.
>
>Good hardworking people have devoted a lifetime to serious practice with
>absolutely no observed K movement.
And I would be inclined to think that these people are not following the
right path for themselves, or perhaps there is a problem with the practice.
Takes time, yes, takes a lifetime... perhaps for K, but if I don't start
feeling something, anything within a few weeks, I put it aside and try
something else.
The main reason my progress has lept leaps and bounds is because I am open to
new techniques. I try to have a vault of techniques, and am constantly
searching it for the one which will work the best in my system for that
moment. The more in the vault, the more you can draw on. Learn all you can
so your inner guru can pick the best one, and you'll be more likely to
progress. Kundalini is still a rare experience in my system, but I get all
types of high energy movement, different chakras, aura stuff, mental stuff,
ect. ect.
Be a mystic, not a slave to someone else's technique
Aaron
:)
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 17:00:33 -0400 (EDT)
From: CGIAJWATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: (Forcing Shakti,and Promises, Promises, Promises.)
Message-ID: <970424165944_1952920786ATnospamemout10.mail.aol.com>
In a message dated 4/23/97 2:41:40 PM, you wrote:
>endangers your spiritual development,
>and hence your soul, in this and future lifetimes.
perhaps I'm the fool, but I'm still under the impression that the universe,
will never harm my soul or spiritual development, sure it teaches me lessons
in very strange ways which I don't conciously understand, but harm my soul
for all eternity, not my soul, my soul is untouchable, the deamons may tear
at it's flesh, but all they devour is ego and false knowledge, let them
feast, they clean the bones of pure light, they set the pure soul free
When assaulted by demons, give freely to them in love, they will honor you
with their grooming :)
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 14:14:30 -0700
From: Pamela <pamelaATnospamserv.net>
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: RE: We are synchronous
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Gloria said:
Hi Mike,
I'm real happy you got my message and agreed with it.
<snip>
Gloria,
Uh........I am Pamela. At least I was last time I looked in the mirror.
<smile>
Gloria I am Pamela from Seattle, not Mike. Wow ! You're in Nevada !
Uncanny........Well as I was saying............
Pamela
.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:.
"Life does not happen to us, it happens from within us."
---------- Mike Wickett
.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:.
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 18:17:35 +0100
From: vic bonds <wildwingsATnospampeconic.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Unidentified subject!
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Dear Pamela,
Hi there, I want to tell you that I experience the same things, everynight,
I wonder if now we who have enough light are making love to the lovers
and mystics of the past, it is sad, but lovely, and I wonder if the lovers
of eternity are the first to transend the time sense, do you think maybe
this time especially, we are meeting collectively in a divine sense, and
perhaps pairing off. It is a strange thing for sure, but very good for
a creative mystic, for music, and writing, and drama, what do you
think?
Victoria
>>
>>I write a lot of poetry. I am trying to publish a book of my poems now.
>>Most of my poems are very, romantic and sensual. So I don't have any
>>that are on the subject of Kundalini but I thought I would post just
>>one. Hope it does not offend anyone.
>>Pamela
>>
>>The Finest Dream
>>
>>Head strikes my pillow
>>very late into the night
>>I journeyed into a parallel universe
>>visions and dreaming in vivid color
>>
>>This vision of beauty
>>his soul intertwines with mine
>>our connection on the astral
>>keeping with a karmic bond
>>
>>his ectoplasmic hands caressing me
>>eyes into which I could see eternity
>>contained all the colors of the rainbow
>>we communicated telepathically
>>
>>he revealed to me of perfect love
>>my body feeling the ultimate connection
>>a crystal like aura around him
>>subliminal sexual energy emanating
>>
>>dreaming seemed a life time
>>then the sun dared to rise
>>I awoke with a profound feeling
>>remembering my meeting with an evolved entity
>>
>>(c) 1996 A “Spirit” Concepts
>>
>>
>>.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:.
>>
>>"Life does not happen to us, it happens from within us."
>> ---------- Mike Wickett
>>
>>.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:.
>>
>>
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 15:36:29 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: Pamela <pamelaATnospamserv.net>
CC: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: We are synchronous
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Pamela wrote:
>
> Gloria said:
>
> Hi Mike,
> I'm real happy you got my message and agreed with it.
> <snip>
> Gloria,
> Uh........I am Pamela. At least I was last time I looked in the mirror.
> <smile>
> Gloria I am Pamela from Seattle, not Mike. Wow ! You're in Nevada !
> Uncanny........Well as I was saying............
> Pamela
>
> .:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:.
> "Life does not happen to us, it happens from within us."
> ---------- Mike Wickett
>
> .:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:.
Well, Hello Pamela, where did I get Mike, maybe from Mike Wickett down
there at the signature. Sorry about that. Yes, I'm in Nevada, Reno to be
exact. I've heard folks think something bad happened to them because
they were in the dark state of Nevada, but it really isn't that way at
all. I've been here of my life and it is just a vibration that is very
free for most, although we have a lot of rednecks here. Your in Seattle
now, right? Nice to meet you. hope to get to know you better. Gloria
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 19:31:19 +0100
From: vic bonds <wildwingsATnospampeconic.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: synchronisty
Message-Id: <23311964803446ATnospampeconic.net>
>----------------------------------
>>
>>Dear Gloria,
>>Hi there, boy, I really get the Idea, that you, and all of us, are really in a
>>grand trend, that, perhaps, our collective masters in the I Am, are
>>resounding like a clear bell, collectively, and it is a mystery, why
>> it should be so, let me explain, I see that you and me should follow the
>>music spree, that so delights the soul, and if you hear the chants of songs
>> and 'question it, all it means, is, that you are in God's Synchronistity.
>>>Victoria
>>
>>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>--------------------------------------
>>>HI TG and all,
>>> Ego is that part of self that is in control, it thinks to believe, it
>>>creates to exist, and it manipulates to control. But, it is not bad, it
>>>is a mystical paradox. Before you can enter into deep spiritual training
>>>you must have obtained quite a developed ego. Until this has been
>>>obtained there can't be any real consciousness of the letting go
>>>process.
>>> So, you might say, ok you work like heck to create and succeed, and
>>>once you've become pretty good at it... then you have what is required
>>>to go to the next stage... WHICH IS TO UNDO EVERYTHING THAT YOU WORKED
>>>SO HARD TO DO.
>>>
>>> Yep that it in a nut shell. It isn't until you have mastered the art of
>>>creation that you are ready to give it up and connect back up to the
>>>eternal movement of spirit and remember what it is that you are, where
>>>you came from, and your ultimate purpose. There can be no real awareness
>>>of self until you consciously work to become free which means to break
>>>away from the illusion and let go. Meditate on this one, it will give
>>>you great blessings. Gloria
>>>
>>>
>>
>>.
>
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 17:57:17 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: vic bonds <wildwingsATnospampeconic.net>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: synchronisty
Message-ID: <335F90EC.2391ATnospamintercomm.com>
vic bonds wrote:
>
> >----------------------------------
> >>
> >>Dear Gloria,
> >>Hi there, boy, I really get the Idea, that you, and all of us, are really in a
> >>grand trend, that, perhaps, our collective masters in the I Am, are
> >>resounding like a clear bell, collectively, and it is a mystery, why
> >> it should be so, let me explain, I see that you and me should follow the
> >>music spree, that so delights the soul, and if you hear the chants of songs
> >> and 'question it, all it means, is, that you are in God's Synchronistity.
> >>>Victoria
> >>
> >>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>--------------------------------------
> >>>HI TG and all,
> >>> Ego is that part of self that is in control, it thinks to believe, it
> >>>creates to exist, and it manipulates to control. But, it is not bad, it
> >>>is a mystical paradox. Before you can enter into deep spiritual training
> >>>you must have obtained quite a developed ego. Until this has been
> >>>obtained there can't be any real consciousness of the letting go
> >>>process.
> >>> So, you might say, ok you work like heck to create and succeed, and
> >>>once you've become pretty good at it... then you have what is required
> >>>to go to the next stage... WHICH IS TO UNDO EVERYTHING THAT YOU WORKED
> >>>SO HARD TO DO.
> >>>
> >>> Yep that it in a nut shell. It isn't until you have mastered the art of
> >>>creation that you are ready to give it up and connect back up to the
> >>>eternal movement of spirit and remember what it is that you are, where
> >>>you came from, and your ultimate purpose. There can be no real awareness
> >>>of self until you consciously work to become free which means to break
> >>>away from the illusion and let go. Meditate on this one, it will give
> >>>you great blessings. Gloria
HI,
it is indeed the flow of synchronicity that is the flow of spirit and
the music of the spheres. Life is just one long composition wouldn't you
agree? Gloria
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>.
> >
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