1997/04/24 11:56
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #190
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 190
Today's Topics:
Healing List
Re: Healing list
Unidentified subject!
Re: k-list post
Re: The birth of a Sufi - with love from yogi Tom
Re: Yagnas
Re: kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #160
Re: Healing list
Letting GO
Dear confused in Florida
RRR . . .
Healing status ON
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 10:59:17 -0400
From: imtgATnospamjuno.com (tg xxx)
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Healing List
Message-ID: <19970424.105943.3798.7.imtgATnospamjuno.com>
I apologize dear group for my bitter thoughts I sent to you on healing
energies. For some stupid & perfect reason, I missed Jen's thoughts
below before I clicked the letter to 'send'. Her words make perfect
sense.
nevermind,
xxxtg
"It's always dark in the beginning..." -The Neverending Story
Jens wrote:
>>> Don't forget that it is some people's healing to actually die, but
>the
>>> transition can be made so much more comfortable if people send love
>in>>> their direction.
>>>
>>> 'Miraculous' healing is an aspect of K power - so why not use it?
>>> Experience the joy of helping others become aligned with their
>highest>>> good.
http://members.aol.com/Teeegeee/tgshome.html <~~~~ on the web now!
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 10:20:06 -0700
From: John Halonen <halonenjATnospamix.netcom.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Healing list
Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970424102003.006b9548ATnospampopd.ix.netcom.com>
I think that sending love end energy without knowing the specifics of what
is wrong could help a person be at peace if they are receptive to the love.
This would help them no matters what the case, and also help to heal us as
individuals and as a group.
I can't stop thinking sometimes how great this list really is. So many
obviously different people drawn to this one thing. It really does seam
like I KNOW a lot of you already as if we are close.
I'm sorry to hear your loss. Having a wife and two children myself I can't
imagine the pain of losing one of them.
Love to you.
John Halonen
At 10:41 AM 4/24/97 -0400, you wrote:
>Hi Folks...
>
>I don't mean to be a party-pooper about this, and believe me, I am ALL
>for a miraculous healing list - I'm just having a few reservations
>regarding the whole concept.
>
>I guess my question would be is, if someone is to receive a healing,
>don't they have to be receptive to it (on a soul level), and if they are
>receptive to it, wouldn't the healing occur even if there were no
>prayer/healings/love/energy sent forth? Wouldn't the thoughts/energies
>sent by us be just to make us feel better? (which is ok in itself as I
>always love to feel better). Heck, maybe that's the whole point here.
>
>I've seen the scientific studies by what's-his-name on the effects of
>prayers on healing, which were very favorable for prayers vs.
>non-prayers.
>
>Maybe my whole confusion on this point is between asking for something
>(via a prayer healing) and sending love and energy. (??)
>
>Please recall that I just lost my love of my life and he was sent many
>many prayers, love, energy, and healings by many people to no avail. In
>which others in turn reply, 'well, it was his time', or 'it was his
>choice to leave his body.' Understand they said 'his choice', not
>mine or yours. Excuses! Bah! Why bother? (I'd really like to
>know)
>
>Confused in Florida,
>xxxtg
>
>"No matter how thin you slice it, it's still baloney."
>
>(having a good time observing my ego bitter thoughts at this time)
>
>
>
>
>http://members.aol.com/Teeegeee/tgshome.html <~~~~ on the web now!
>
>
>On Thu, 24 Apr 1997 08:17:24 -0700 John Halonen <halonenjATnospamix.netcom.com>
>writes:
>>Maybe we could leave the subject "Miraculous Healing"
>>And in the body give the persons name.
>>
>>We could all send love and energy.
>>
>>John Halonen
>>
>>At 04:31 PM 4/23/97 PDT, Claudia McNeely wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>----------
>>>> Dear people,
>>>>
>>>> Why not start a healing list?
>>>>
>>>> Just a brief entry of person's name and age would be sufficient, to
>>>> establish vibration and energy connection.
>>>>
>>>> I for one would be delighted to meditate on such names on a regular
>>>> basis.
>>>>
>>>> Don't forget that it is some people's healing to actually die, but
>>the
>>>> transition can be made so much more comfortable if people send love
>>in
>>>> their direction.
>>>>
>>>> 'Miraculous' healing is an aspect of K power - so why not use it?
>>>> Experience the joy of helping others become aligned with their
>>highest
>>>> good.
>>>>
>>>> Love and peace
>>>>
>>>> jens
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>Great idea!!!
>>>
>>>Claudia McNeely
>>>whitedoveATnospamtexramp.net
>>>www.texramp.net/~whitedove
>>>Facilitating gentle healing on all levels
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 08:20:21 -0700
From: Pamela <pamelaATnospamserv.net>
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Unidentified subject!
Message-ID: <335F7A35.2C27ATnospamserv.net>
X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by mailgate.execpc.com id OAA10182
I write a lot of poetry. I am trying to publish a book of my poems now.
Most of my poems are very, romantic and sensual. So I don't have any
that are on the subject of Kundalini but I thought I would post just
one. Hope it does not offend anyone.
Pamela
The Finest Dream
Head strikes my pillow
very late into the night
I journeyed into a parallel universe
visions and dreaming in vivid color
This vision of beauty
his soul intertwines with mine
our connection on the astral
keeping with a karmic bond
his ectoplasmic hands caressing me
eyes into which I could see eternity
contained all the colors of the rainbow
we communicated telepathically
he revealed to me of perfect love
my body feeling the ultimate connection
a crystal like aura around him
subliminal sexual energy emanating
dreaming seemed a life time
then the sun dared to rise
I awoke with a profound feeling
remembering my meeting with an evolved entity
(c) 1996 A “Spirit” Concepts
.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:.
"Life does not happen to us, it happens from within us."
---------- Mike Wickett
.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:.
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 09:14:03 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: debbie Robinson <LIGHHTNINGRODATnospamwebtv.net>
CC: pamelaATnospamserv.net, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, LarryN3515ATnospamaol.com,
fullpubATnospamthegrid.net
Subject: Re: k-list post
Message-ID: <335F1649.54DCATnospamintercomm.com>
debbie Robinson wrote:
>
> Enjoyed your post . I also have been in similar process for 3-4 yrs now.
> One of the most helpful examples I had initially was a Thai
> businesswoman that I became friends with.
> She and I are in our mid 40s-however, in Thailand, that is considered
> old age. She surprised me with the news that she was turning her large
> and thriving business over to relatives, placing her nearly grown
> children in college and private prep schools, and "leaving" her husband
> to join a Buddhist convent. I expressed great interest and not a little
> shock-had several questions and marvelled at her resolve and clarity.
> She very simply explained that in her culture it was normal to spend the
> 1st third of your life growing up, the 2nd in raising a family and
> engaging in your life's work, and the last could be devoted to spiritual
> growth and preparation for the next life. Thai Buddhists are quite
> moderate in all their practice permitting her to be married and yet to
> be fully involved with spiritual life in a convent.
> The important thing is that her culture provided a framework for this
> very natural
> progression through life, whereas our
> cultural values lead us to question our sanity and stability as we move
> into these experiences. I was in the same process but lacked affirmation
> and fellowship.
> I immediately decided that I would reframe my experience in terms of the
> larger human culture and move forward with confidence and grace.
> we are in a sense, just the firstfruits in a never-ending cycle of crops
> coming to fruition-the rest will follow. All the best,
> Debbie
Debbie,
I've shared this with a couple of people because we were just
discussing this. It is wonderful that folks in parts of the world have
this understanding of life, and it is good for other cultures to observe
and learn from this wisdom. This way when people do things that seem odd
there will be more compassion and understanding for the decisions made
in life as changes come along. Gloria
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 09:20:04 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: Tom Aston <yogi.tomATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
CC: colin <colATnospamlakes.u-net.com>, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, larrynATnospamintercomm.com,
rtrATnospammicron.net, V37ATnospamaol.com, LVermilionATnospamaol.com
Subject: Re: The birth of a Sufi - with love from yogi Tom
Message-ID: <335F17B1.12BCATnospamintercomm.com>
Tom Aston wrote:
>
> i thought this might be of interest to anyone who's had powerful
> experiences and wondered if they are going crazy.....
>
> this article has been used as a case study in the UK in training student
> therapists in questioning notions of sanity and nervous breakdown....
>
> could be seen as a classic case of East meets West.....
>
> with a happy ending too......
>
> regards, Sufi Tom
>
> THE SPIRITUAL BIRTH OF A SUFI
>
> The following account is based on the published medical reports on
> Barkat Ali, a British soldier of Indian birth and Muslim faith, who
> migrated to newly formed Pakistan and settled in Faisalabad in 1947,
> two years after the apparent mental breakdown diagnosed by doctors
> overseeing his case.
>
> Here he eventually became an internationally recognised Sufi spiritual
> teacher.
>
> Barkat Ali - who later became known as Sufi or Wale Babaji - openly
> released these reports so as not to deceive anyone about what the
> psychiatric profession thought about his religious experiences.
>
> Sufi Babaji has been visited by many dignitaries both from within and
> outside Pakistan including Benazir Bhutto, former Prime Minister of
> Pakistan, and Nawaz Sharif, current Prime Minister of Pakistan. His
> followers run into thousands and are spread around the world, both East
> and West.
>
> He has founded a hospital, a large collection of original editions of
> the Koran from all over the world and written scores of books on
> spiritual life.
>
> He died in Faisalabad during Ramadan in January 1997.
>
> While a soldier, in a confidential report, Barkat Ali's commanding
> officer, Brigadier W.L.D.Veitch wrote: "It is no exaggeration to say
> that I have never met a man in India to touch him. He is as keen as
> mustard. He works like a clock in the office as well as on the parade
> ground."
>
> On June 22, 1945, at the age of 34, while stationed in Roorkee in India,
> Barkat Ali abdicated his position in the army and sent a statement to
> Brigadier Veitch renouncing his commission saying: "Believe it or not
> this is the true story of my heart. I have finally and firmly resolved
> to lead my life as a faqir" - in other words, that he had given up his
> life to the spiritual path of Sufism, the mystical tradition within
> Islam, which is sometimes described as a journey to one's own heart.
>
> He was immediately placed under military arrest and assessed by two
> doctors - Group Medical Officer Major King and the unit Medical Officer
> Dr Mitial - for a psychiatric disorder.
>
> His medical report read as follows: "Anxiety severe state unspecified
> chronic states he had a disease for the last five or six years to become
> a 'dervish' (hermit). This disease increased very much during the last
> four months, yesterday the 22.6.1945 he decided not to continue work.
> This led to his being put on a military charge.."
>
> He was asked to accompany an officer and former colleague to psychiatric
> hospital and, though initially refusing to do so, was eventually
> persuaded to go by his friend.
>
> On 25.6.1945 there is a record of a patient statement and complaint:
> "The patient thinks that he had some revelation in his dream and he
> should now dedicate himself to that. In obedience to that he now wants
> to confine his activities to religious duties only."
>
> Ten days later, on 5.7.1945, his doctor notes: "Looks depressed and
> extremely asocial. Keeps himself busy in religious duties. Emotionally
> unstable and weeps easily. He is docile and gentle in behaviour. He is
> clean and regular in his habits. He gives an expression of distaste and
> non-adaptability in the present environment."
>
> The diagnosis ? "Anxiety state severe unspecified chronic."
>
> The outlook ? "It is almost impossible to clear him of religious
> intoxification and hermitic life. In the present state he is useless as
> a soldier. I therefore recommend that he is invalided form the service."
>
> The cause of the problem ? "In view of his long service I do not find
> anything but the special strain and stress of the emergencies of the
> present war, as the attributing factor for his disease."
>
> A senior officer, based in Roorkee, wrote: "What he has done was under
> the dictate of strong religious belief and in my opinion not with the
> intention to deny law and order deliberately." He went on to recommend:
> "He is an innocent accused and recommend that the charge for which he is
> under open arrest may be washed and the guard withdrawn."
>
> And thus it was that an efficient and seemingly normal British soldier
> turned into an asocial God-intoxicated hermit overnight, taking with him
> only these insights from the British medical profession as evidence of
> what had happened.
>
> Copyright 1997 Tom Aston/Yogi Tom/Silver Dawn Media All Rights Reserved
> 26.2.97
>
> With thanks to my Sufi friend Ali Shah for introducing me to the facts
> of this story.
HI Tom,
Great story, and yes, doesn't it speak to how powerful change comes
into our lives. And when something inside is coming through no matter
what it takes we have to move with it. This experience is valuable to
those true seekers who must also follow that narrow road. Gloria
>
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 09:24:26 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: Melissa Shubha Smith <ganesha1ATnospamix.netcom.com>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, gawain1ATnospamix.netcom.com, spirit-lATnospamspiritweb.org,
fullpubATnospamthegrid.net
Subject: Re: Yagnas
Message-ID: <335F18B7.369ATnospamintercomm.com>
Melissa Shubha Smith wrote:
>
> You wrote:
> >
> >You know in India they have groups of people whose profession it is to
> >perform rites and chantings to help paying"customers".I hear it
> works.This is
> >called a yagya
> >
> >Dear Kundalini List,
>
> I am new to your list and this is my first contribution.
> I have been to many Yagnas performed here in the USA at the Siddha
> Meditation Ashram in NY.
> Brahman Priests from India who have trained thier entire lives learning
> the ancient and sacred mantras from thier own fathers, who learned them
> from thier fathers before them and so on and so on back to the very
> ancient past.
> The mantras and prayers are offered to the fire or yagna with other
> offerings of ghee, rice, sacred woods, and facilitated by a
> representative "couple" man and wife who represent the devine male and
> female energies of this Universe. (Shiva & Shakti).
> The Offerings are burned in the fire and the smoke from the fire goes
> up in to the atmosphere of the earth and actually purifys the earth.
> There are many different types of Yagnas, done for different purposes,
> using different vedic prayers specifically for those purposes.
>
> We can also have a Yagna inside our hearts and offer our offerings
> mentally to the inner fire of yoga.(or the kundalini) This can be
> anything. Things we wish to release, surrenders of ego, sacred prayers,
> offerings of auspicious things we love. The Inner Sacraficial Fire.
>
> When the fire is over and the Yagna has burnt down the "ashes" or
> "Bhasma" is a fine white powder. This is the white ash Yogis smear on
> thier bodies to signify going beyond the 3 qualities of life (3 gunas,
> tamas-rajas-sattva) and residing in the state of the beyond the beyond
> (Nada-Bindu-Kalatitam). This ash acts as spiritual sunglasses for the
> energy centers where it is smeared often in 3 lines on the forehead.
> It protects, heals, and enlivens. The act of placing it on your body is
> also a supreme act of devotion towards the shakti or universal
> spiritual energy, reminding oneself of the ultimate rememberence "I am
> That" (Tat Twam Asi).
>
> So, when we want to heal...remember that healing ourselves, and healing
> our own inner self is the supreme offering to this universe. The Inner
> Yagna. The the vibrations of this healing emanate outwards into the
> universe like the ripples of water in a pond when a stone is thrown in.
> Then, wherever we go whatever we do, whatever we touch has this very
> pure intention. This pure vibration. We do not burden others with our
> stuff. We take care of it within. Then we are walking lightly on this
> mother earth. Then we are being "in the light".
>
> Thank-you for the gift of sharing about Yagnas.
>
> Melissa Shubha Smith, REIKI Master aka Ganesha
> http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/3035
Hi Melissa,
That is very beautiful, I'm sure you are going to be a great addition
to the list. Many folks are interested in Reiki, and it appears you have
a good foundation to share from.
Check out my homepage so that we can talk. Gloria
http://users.intercomm.com/larryn
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 12:31:23 -0400
From: LIGHHTNINGRODATnospamwebtv.net (debbie Robinson)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, yogi.tomATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk
Subject: Re: kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #160
Message-Id: <199704241631.JAA19708ATnospammailtod-2.alma.webtv.net>
tom, i've read a number of your posts on this subject and would like to
address (not engage) your dogmatic & somewhat authoritarian tone in all
of this. Simply put, many of us in many traditions have been
experiencing these things and plumbing their depths for some time. There
is little danger, even less technical material to master, and much less
crowing to be done. It would seem to me at times, that you have much
unresolved sexual energy being channelled into intense verbosity and the
need for recognition. Perhaps a less extreme, down to earth approach
would be worth a try.
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 10:05:03 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: tg xxx <imtgATnospamjuno.com>
CC: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, Larryn3515ATnospamaol.com, fullpubATnospamthegrid.net,
rtrATnospammicron.net, V37ATnospamaol.com, pallisonATnospamtheriver.net
Subject: Re: Healing list
Message-ID: <335F223A.FACATnospamintercomm.com>
tg xxx wrote:
>
> Hi Folks...
>
> I don't mean to be a party-pooper about this, and believe me, I am ALL
> for a miraculous healing list - I'm just having a few reservations
> regarding the whole concept.
>
> I guess my question would be is, if someone is to receive a healing,
> don't they have to be receptive to it (on a soul level), and if they are
> receptive to it, wouldn't the healing occur even if there were no
> prayer/healings/love/energy sent forth? Wouldn't the thoughts/energies
> sent by us be just to make us feel better? (which is ok in itself as I
> always love to feel better). Heck, maybe that's the whole point here.
>
> I've seen the scientific studies by what's-his-name on the effects of
> prayers on healing, which were very favorable for prayers vs.
> non-prayers.
>
> Maybe my whole confusion on this point is between asking for something
> (via a prayer healing) and sending love and energy. (??)
>
> Please recall that I just lost my love of my life and he was sent many
> many prayers, love, energy, and healings by many people to no avail. In
> which others in turn reply, 'well, it was his time', or 'it was his
> choice to leave his body.' Understand they said 'his choice', not
> mine or yours. Excuses! Bah! Why bother? (I'd really like to
> know)
>
> Confused in Florida,
> xxxtg
>
> "No matter how thin you slice it, it's still baloney."
>
> (having a good time observing my ego bitter thoughts at this time)
>
> http://members.aol.com/Teeegeee/tgshome.html <~~~~ on the web now!
>
> On Thu, 24 Apr 1997 08:17:24 -0700 John Halonen <halonenjATnospamix.netcom.com>
> writes:
> >Maybe we could leave the subject "Miraculous Healing"
> >And in the body give the persons name.
> >
> >We could all send love and energy.
> >
> >John Halonen
> >
> >At 04:31 PM 4/23/97 PDT, Claudia McNeely wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>----------
> >>> Dear people,
> >>>
> >>> Why not start a healing list?
> >>>
> >>> Just a brief entry of person's name and age would be sufficient, to
> >>> establish vibration and energy connection.
> >>>
> >>> I for one would be delighted to meditate on such names on a regular
> >>> basis.
> >>>
> >>> Don't forget that it is some people's healing to actually die, but
> >the
> >>> transition can be made so much more comfortable if people send love
> >in
> >>> their direction.
> >>>
> >>> 'Miraculous' healing is an aspect of K power - so why not use it?
> >>> Experience the joy of helping others become aligned with their
> >highest
> >>> good.
> >>>
> >>> Love and peace
> >>>
> >>> jens
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>Great idea!!!
> >>
> >>Claudia McNeely
> >>whitedoveATnospamtexramp.net
> >>www.texramp.net/~whitedove
> >>Facilitating gentle healing on all levels
Hi all,
Everyone is being taught according to their specific needs, some people
have not totally experienced the letting go process in regards to the
body and life in terms of staying in the body. As long as there is
attachment to staying, being and being in a certain state of the body as
health, then there will be folks who want help staying in that
condition.
On the spiritual side it is always best to put the intent into God's
Hands because it isn't of your best interest to interfere in others
delicate spiritual negotiations. Each soul is at work trying to awaken
to what is truth for them on the highest level he or she can reach. So
according to how that is manifesting, he or she will know or not know
the spirit side of things. When they don't they look outside for help,
anywhere, anyone, help, please, etc.
But, when the light comes on and there is awareness about how things
really are, then all of a sudden everything changes. We understand then
that everything is a choise. And that choise is best kept between God
and the individual soul. When lessons come through in form of challenge,
it is understood by the soul why it is there, what karma is being
released, etc. And, because of this, there is no thought of changing it
for worldly reasons or comfort, but as you can see from needs, not to
many have arrived at this station. And, for them these words sound hard
and impersonal.
So, how do we allow people to move through the various aspects of the
illusion with compassion, and how to be with them graciously with love
and true understanding for what is happening. This is the balancing act
each soul must do.
When I work with people who are very sick, which I do often, I make it
clear that what I give them is a light transfusion, how it is to be used
is best decided by his or her soul/spirt so that it is utilized
according to Divine Will for that person. I never project an idea even
if it is that person's desire and they specifically ask me to, I still
can't since it is not my place to play God for them.
This is that aspect for many when they saw Jesus as healing, what he
did was allowed his energy field to be entered by those with the faith,
ears, and knowing how to do it. When they became healed it wasn't his
thought that did it, it was because it was in agreement for God's Will
for them.Because of this he told them it was their faith that did it, he
didn't do it persay.
I stay invisible in the operation and truly stand along side to assist
in however God decides is appropriate. Very often that energy is needed
for the person to leave the body in a certain state of peace, that is
really an excellent purpose for this work. But, sometimes people also
get better and have years left to learn and participate. But, you just
never know how that is going to come down. Does this help at all?
Difficult topic with a lot of deep emotions and feeling involved for
many. Gloria
In fact, in regards to this, in order for my mother to pass away and
leave her body I knew I couldn't be there with her. My presence provided
energy for her to stay, which her self would hold on to, whereas on a
soul level she was trying to leave. So from a distance I worked with her
on that level. She left in peace and has had nothing but wonderful
realizations since.
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 12:50:49 -0700
From: John Halonen <halonenjATnospamix.netcom.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Letting GO
Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970424125047.006b02c8ATnospampopd.ix.netcom.com>
I love the music and lyrics of Jon Anderson.
Here is a quote from a song.
"I can tell a new story now.
Can we see through this mask of uncertainty surely now.
How can it be so hard, when all there is to know,
Don't be afraid of letting go.
It takes a loving heart to see and show
this love, for our own ecology.
Hold the light. Hold the light.
Out of love we'll come a long long glorious way.
And at the start of every day, a child begins to play.
And all we need to know. Is that the future is a friend
of yours and mine." - YES "Holy Lamb, album-Big Generator"
Love,
John Halonen
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 97 14:13:56 EDT
From: chelseaATnospamsuperaje.com (Dominic & Maureen Marando)
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Dear confused in Florida
Message-Id: <9704241813.AA02076ATnospamsuperaje.com>
Hi Folks...
Confused in Florida wrote:
>I guess my question would be is, if someone is to receive a healing,
>don't they have to be receptive to it (on a soul level),
.......actually no.......I just finished reading a wonderful book on healing
(The Uncommon Touch..Tom Harpur)....who, for back up, uses data from studies
which show, among other benefits of prayer....babies who are prayed for do
better (and they wouldn't know about being receptive or non-receptive) and
plants and animals prayed for also do better than a control
group........same went for sick people who had no idea they were being
prayed for.........Prayer works...we don't know why but it does.......so
what the heck...let's pray.
>Please recall that I just lost my love of my life and he was sent many
>many prayers, love, energy, and healings by many people to no avail. In
>which others in turn reply, 'well, it was his time', or 'it was his
>choice to leave his body.' Understand they said 'his choice', not
>mine or yours. Excuses! Bah! Why bother? (I'd really like to
>know).
............"others" may be just trying to comfort. But forget all that "New
Age" mumbo jumbo. You have a loss and it hurts like hell and you have every
reason to cry and scream at the universe. Tell God how you feel. He can
handle it. It may or may not have been his time and some people have no
choice and are NOT ready to die when it is "their time". You have a right to
be angry and feel your pain...and rage, rage "against the dying of the
light." (just remember the light goes on).
Best wishes,
Mo
http://members.aol.com/Teeegeee/tgshome.html <~~~~ on the web now!
On Thu, 24 Apr 1997 08:17:24 -0700 John Halonen <halonenjATnospamix.netcom.com>
writes:
>Maybe we could leave the subject "Miraculous Healing"
>And in the body give the persons name.
>
>We could all send love and energy.
>
>John Halonen
>
>At 04:31 PM 4/23/97 PDT, Claudia McNeely wrote:
>>
>>
>>----------
>>> Dear people,
>>>
>>> Why not start a healing list?
>>>
>>> Just a brief entry of person's name and age would be sufficient, to
>>> establish vibration and energy connection.
>>>
>>> I for one would be delighted to meditate on such names on a regular
>>> basis.
>>>
>>> Don't forget that it is some people's healing to actually die, but
>the
>>> transition can be made so much more comfortable if people send love
>in
>>> their direction.
>>>
>>> 'Miraculous' healing is an aspect of K power - so why not use it?
>>> Experience the joy of helping others become aligned with their
>highest
>>> good.
>>>
>>> Love and peace
>>>
>>> jens
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Great idea!!!
>>
>>Claudia McNeely
>>whitedoveATnospamtexramp.net
>>www.texramp.net/~whitedove
>>Facilitating gentle healing on all levels
>>
>>
>>
>
>
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 12:55:39 -0700
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
CC: Swiszczowski <SteveSwiszATnospamaol.com>, stevenATnospamredbear.idiscover.co.uk,
jan.watsonATnospamsympatico.ca
Subject: RRR . . .
Message-ID: <335FBABB.4E03ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by mailgate.execpc.com id OAA10182
Dear Friends,
Someone you know
- maybe even your good self
needs this in their car . . .
ROAD RAGE RAGA*
Oh divine polluters of calmness
I breath in your mistakes
and breath out
1. Once slowly . . .
2. Twice with understanding of my many mistakes
I wish forgiven :)
3. Thrice for the moment to pass
and then gently and serenely
like an excellent potato
I drive sweetly onward . . .
*Raga is a song of wholly worship
may be used freely in any automobile
© Lobster and The Mother 1997 arcATnospaminame.com All wrongs reversed
PUBLIC HEALTH WARNING
Do not drive whilst surfing the net
also available as a web page for those driving surfers:
http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/place/vv60/SRC/raga.html
Most Kind Regards
Lobster
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 17:40:41 -0700
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Healing status ON
Message-ID: <335FFD89.2235ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
- - - - Steve Swiszczowski - - - - - -
STATUS REPORT - Keep the K coming
- Failure is not an option
______
> Well here I am at home!! Yippee - no hospital today! And the God of No Side
> Effects is still smiling upon me, and I feel well enough to enjoy this day -
> with the house to myself!!! Something I really love! (And so rare.)
> >>They seem to be expecting me to feel bad.
> > Defy them!
>
> I'll certainly try to, but they say it could happen any time over the next
> few weeks even though I feel fine now. What a bunch of downers!
----------------------------------------
Whilst people debate the benefits, merits
and various possibilities of sending K
via an email line forum . . .
Please continue sending your prayers,
blessings, energy to Steve
--- Blessed are the Blessing ----
Blessed Be
Most Kind Regards
Lobster
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