1997/04/18 04:18
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #174
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 174
Today's Topics:
Re: Eulogy for Mad Tom
THANK YOU!
Re: Eulogy for Mad Tom
Itsy bitsy - God help us, Lobster's going soft
Tantric Kundalini
Feeeling Sheepish? It will all come to mutton in the end...
Re: TRY THESE IMAGES
Re: I saw a dead snake today
Eulogy for Mad Tom, Eulogy for Lobster and Buddha's Behind
Re: Tantric Kundalini
Re: Eulogy for Mad Tom, Eulogy for Lobster and Buddha's Behind
& Meditational Music
Re: Enjoying his karma-Phil
AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
losing it...
Was that a "baaa I heard?
Re: a great tan
AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
So long folks..enjoy life
Hello
Who you are
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 15:28:15 +0100
From: Tom Aston <yogi.tomATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, joeATnospamflarity.com
Subject: Re: Eulogy for Mad Tom
Message-ID: <NnB2TEA$NjVzEwP4ATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
In message <33558319.4BCATnospamflarity.com>, J Flarity <joeATnospamflarity.com>
writes
>Dear Kunfires
>
>My euphoria for the emergence of raving poet Tom from the carcass of
>straight-laced yogi Tom was dashed today when I read this post:
>
>> and i am one of those people who have found an unusual quality to this
>> list and value its integrity
>
>Who is this "i" and what have you done with mad Tom? The world is rife
>with gurus and one wonders if they would be missed if they plunge
>themselves into the sea.
>
>But mad poets are a rare breed whose contributions would be sorely
>missed. We had a street person who made a living playing spoons at the
>Pike Place Market in Seattle. The song "Spoon man" (all my friends are
>black and tan) by Soundgarden set fame's hounds upon him, and he plays
>the market no more.
>
>COME BACK MAD TOM AND SING TO US
>
>I thank Lobster for setting poetry in motion on this list and Phil for
>driving Tom over the edge. I would nominate Morgana to play the pipes
>until all the other gurus are likewise mad or far into the Pacific. I
>think she lives on the Oregon coast. Only the mad ones will do for me.
>
>
>Guru joe
>11 bovine disciples
>unafraid of madness
>which is totally unbalanced
>
>
>ps: I spent a week in a mental ward. The food wasn't bad but they
>wouldn't let me turn my music up or have electroshock therapy (we had
>nobody resembling Nurse Ratchet.) So don't knock it if you haven't
>tried it. It is a great opportunity for direct confrontation with
>yourself. The labels we apply to the apparent condition of our fellow
>travelers, are bricks in our own jail.
>
>Yes lobster, I am advocating madness. Should I start my own school?
>Please suggest some names for my style. How about "The Way of the
>Lemming" or "Kundachosis"
>
But isn't integrity another form of madness in the face of so many lies
?
And this i is you and me and well anyone you like....there's room for us
all in here...
just gets a little crowded sometimes....
and of course, if someone tries to listen and talk to us all at once can
bring on indigestion....
on purely practical note, psychiatric drugs can be highly toxic to the
nervous system, especially of sensitised yogis,
have you read up on the "side effects" of some of these drugs ?
It reads like a journey through chemical hell......
the logic used to justify some of these drugs is rather like that which
led to the Vietnam massacre of My Lai - "waste a village to save it"
(from the Vietcong)
so while i get your paradoxical point about the ego destroying nature of
being incarcerated or treated and labelled loony, would not recommend
psychiatric care as a spiritual method, Tantric or otherwise, as could
just screw up the spiritual tool of body and mind before one has even
got started....
the spiritual path can be a narrow and traumatic one at times, and
psychiatry and the taboo on "mad" behaviour tends to make it more so and
can even turn natural crises and birth pains into botched
abortions......
bad news for everyone involved if only the professionals knew it.....
i will hand your eulogy above my desk just to remind me of my true
spirit when getting a little too serious....first eulogy have ever
received, so thanks from everyone who made it possible for me to go
nuts....
--
Tom Aston
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 13:41:49 -0700
From: Pamela <pamelaATnospamserv.net>
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: THANK YOU!
Message-ID: <33568B0D.2BCFATnospamserv.net>
X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by mailgate.execpc.com id GAA13886
I wanted to thank everyone who answered my question about my throat
chakra. I love this list and all the help and wonderful new things I
learn from you all! And special thanks to Tom. Your insight is very much
appreciated.
Pamela
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 13:53:50 -0800
From: Douglas Sunlin <dsunlinATnospamlpd.sj.nec.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Eulogy for Mad Tom
Message-Id: <v0300780baf7c48ec29eaATnospam[131.241.45.80]>
>on purely practical note, psychiatric drugs can be highly toxic to the
>nervous system, especially of sensitised yogis,
>Tom Aston
What an interesting statement! Can it be that you practice yoga in
order to get sick easier? Joy! Or perhaps the intent is to get high more
cheaply? Well, now that would make sense, or at least save money. As they
say in Tibet, "Yangdi sunda!" (Give me a discount!)
<> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <>
Buran Khan <;-}
dsunlinATnospamlpd.sj.nec.com
Smiles are always love
<> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <>
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 01:43:08 +0100
From: Tom Aston <yogi.tomATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
Subject: Itsy bitsy - God help us, Lobster's going soft
Message-ID: <GY5EcmAcOsVzEwcJATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
In message <33567112.620ATnospamdial.pipex.com>, E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
writes
>The sun shines, the brain warms
>life is alive with bustle and attention
>luckily it is my turn to wash up
>and slowly and carefully at full speed the mind and body blend
>into an awareness that is nonexistent
>the radio plays gentle words
>steam escapes the kettle
>a spider comes down to see if the washing up is finished
>for the dregs are his meal - he must be a special vegetarian spider
>Love and wonder.
>
>
>Most Kind Regards
>Lobster
>
oh no,
just as i go nuts,
Lobster goes soft in the head...
and stops thinking with his shell
and starts feeling with his heart
what a nightmare
we'll be hugging next
banging drums in the woods
and quoting from self-help books....
God help us all,
come back pincer of ghoolies
and crusher of illusions
God is dead,
Long live Lobster
and what kind of Lobster does the washing up....
and is proud of it....
Mad Tom-A-Bedlam
>
--
Tom Aston
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 21:14:11 -0400
From: Richie Suraci <rs7.fapATnospammhv.net>
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Tantric Kundalini
Message-Id: <v03007800af7c792e3334ATnospam[206.229.41.62]>
This summer we are planning some nude, naturalistic gatherings where we
will celebrate and rejoice with the Tantric Kundalini Pagan Spirit and
share in the ancient sexual rituals of Tantra Kundalini.
Shiva Gods and Shakti Goddesses will join together for a polyfidelic,
orgiastic union of the divine spiritual energies and physical pleasures
involved in total kundalini massage and erotic tantric union.
Anyone who reads this post is invited to email us at rs7.fapATnospammhv.net and
find out more about how to participate in the celebrations of love,
ecstacy, bliss and divine tantric kundalini union.
We look forward to hearing from you........
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 20:51:10
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Feeeling Sheepish? It will all come to mutton in the end...
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970416205110.25efe998ATnospamdomin8rex.com>
> List Mystress wrote:
>
>> Dear Philip, (and All)
>> please do refrain from making summary judgements on the sanity of
>>members...
>>
>> a.} Because you probably are not qualified to make such a judgement, and
>>even if you were qualified, I don't think a decent diagnosis would be made
>>over an email list.
*********
>Lovable Phil wrote:
> Oh, Yes this "qualified" thing you are
>talking about---"I don't need no stinking badges"--qualified? you must
>be kidding. "Just to the Purpose"--Heh-Heh-Enjoy your karma---Phil
>
*and*
>
><< It is easy to lead sheep - They do not ask
> questions -about your credibility - they do not challenge - and thus
> they become so much mutton for the rack. >>
Feeling sheepish?
Blessings, LM.
Mystress Angelique Serpent,
Dominant Experiential Facilitator.
Website= http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent
*******************
Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils.
-- Hector Louis Berlioz
Sure, it's going to kill a lot of people, but they may be dying of
something else anyway. -- Othal Brand, member of a Texas pesticide
review board
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Vancouver, B.C., Canada. Officially the most beautiful city in the world.
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 22:28:12 -0400 (EDT)
From: CGIAJWATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: TRY THESE IMAGES
Message-ID: <970417222805_-667633567ATnospamemout20.mail.aol.com>
In a message dated 4/17/97 4:03:06 AM, you wrote:
>Mandelbrot's animated fractal (chaos computer generated art
>using numbers)
Chaos? Perhaps your seeing into the creation of the universe, I believe that
the "big bang" did occur, and will happen again when gravity collapses the
universe, zillions of years from now, then repeat, infinatly. I also believe
that "there is some order to a conciousness"(Meat Beat Manifesto). If chaos
creates such perfect fractals, infinatly repeating in all directions, perhaps
chaos, in some strange and divine fashon, is in fact God. Suppose I'm
preaching to the converted, but the moral of the story is:
Fractals kick butt!
I'm gonna try to find that vid. :)
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 22:29:29 -0400 (EDT)
From: CGIAJWATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: I saw a dead snake today
Message-ID: <970417222802_-99482258ATnospamemout17.mail.aol.com>
In a message dated 4/17/97 1:38:15 AM, you wrote:
>I saw a dead snake today but my K seems intact.
Remember, the Death card is not the end, it is a changeing, perhaps a
breakthrough is near.
Keep your ears open, sometime the sounds you hear are wonderful.
++ {-)
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 02:48:31 +0100
From: Tom Aston <yogi.tomATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, Douglas Sunlin <dsunlinATnospamlpd.sj.nec.com>
Subject: Eulogy for Mad Tom, Eulogy for Lobster and Buddha's Behind
Message-ID: <ApVVQpAvLtVzEwu0ATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
In message <v0300780baf7c48ec29eaATnospam[131.241.45.80]>, Douglas Sunlin
<dsunlinATnospamlpd.sj.nec.com> writes
>>on purely practical note, psychiatric drugs can be highly toxic to the
>>nervous system, especially of sensitised yogis,
>>Tom Aston
> What an interesting statement!
Thank you
> Can it be that you practice yoga in
>order to get sick easier?
when using the word "yogi" i mean anyone working with kundalini rather
than someone doing the traditional asanas etc of yoga, so it really
means spiritual seeker undergoing mystical experience of shakti whether
they like it or not or even understand what's happening
this can sensitise the mind and nervous system and make one,
spiritually, and even physically, very healthy indeed,
the sickness is in the toxic drugs, it's a bit like blaming lotuses for
dying when sprayed with weed killer....
this is a serious point as there are clearly connections with shakti and
chakra openings, the transitional states of emergence they can bring and
some forms of apparently serious mental distress which may lead to
unnecessary and destructive medication being used....
combined with the taboo and stigma of psychiatric labelling this is a
serious issue, or at least it should be one
which mad Tom is making it his business to explore by personally going
totally nuts online without medication
while somewhere in a kitchen Lobster does the washing up and writes
poems about yogic spiritually emergent vegetarian spiders who are
forming the heavily medicated control group.....
the results are not in doubt -
they will show that medication works,
and in tests 8 out of 10 spiders said their Lobsters preferred it....
>Joy! Or perhaps the intent is to get high more
>cheaply?
prefer insight to transcendence,
but getting high can be a good start if it's a natural high
and transcendence can provide a source of energy that can bring wisdom
and compassion....
danger is getting stuck in transcendent realms for their own sakes and
confusing the god realms with liberation....
swopping a small worldly ego for a bigger purer spiritual ego....
in some ways have exacerbated the original problem
so kill the buddha,
but refrain from sexually abusing him please
and not even Mad Tom would encourage acts of a perverse kind with the
corpse......much
as this might bring a charge of blasphemy
which is a big thing in Buddhism,
well known for its fatwas, piety
and inquisitions
"The quickest way to become a Buddhist is to become a pagan"
>Well, now that would make sense, or at least save money. As they
>say in Tibet, "Yangdi sunda!" (Give me a discount!)
wanna get high, wanna get low
try the buddha, try the guru,
uppers and downers and hanging arounders
if you want sex,
become a Tantric yogi
and it's free love with the dakini
to your heart's content....
and the bill's on buddha,
psssttt wanna buy some dharma ?
just don't expect safe sex
the goddess is dangerous to know
and can seriously damage your conditioning
by dissolving you into emptiness
especially if you fight it baby
look what she's done to that yogi Tom
and he was such a nice polite boy
and suddenly he's blurting obscenities globally
and ranting like a lunatic
and urging us all to do things to mummy -
funny thing, love is,
and the kindest friend tells you the truth about who are
rather than conspiring in the deception
and the Big Lie of attachment to normality and Samsara.....
which is actually all there is
apart from nirvana
and somewhere inbetween nowhere and here
trouble is, we don't always welcome the news
and that's putting it mildly
so hands off mummy and Buddha's derriere,
and go gently into that good night lest the onset of darkness and light
overwhelm....
>
><> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <>
>Buran Khan <;-}
>dsunlinATnospamlpd.sj.nec.com
>Smiles are always love
><> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <>
>
>
--
Tom Aston
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 02:53:39 +0100
From: Tom Aston <yogi.tomATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Tantric Kundalini
Message-ID: <RpGRgBAjQtVzEwM1ATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
In message <v03007800af7c792e3334ATnospam[206.229.41.62]>, Richie Suraci
<rs7.fapATnospammhv.net> writes
>This summer we are planning some nude, naturalistic gatherings where we
>will celebrate and rejoice with the Tantric Kundalini Pagan Spirit and
>share in the ancient sexual rituals of Tantra Kundalini.
>
>Shiva Gods and Shakti Goddesses will join together for a polyfidelic,
>orgiastic union of the divine spiritual energies and physical pleasures
>involved in total kundalini massage and erotic tantric union.
>
>Anyone who reads this post is invited to email us at rs7.fapATnospammhv.net and
>find out more about how to participate in the celebrations of love,
>ecstacy, bliss and divine tantric kundalini union.
>
>We look forward to hearing from you........
>
>
I'll be there with chastity belt, just in case. Yogi Tom
--
Tom Aston
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 22:49:22 -0700
From: John Halonen <halonenjATnospamix.netcom.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Eulogy for Mad Tom, Eulogy for Lobster and Buddha's Behind
& Meditational Music
Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970417224917.00694b18ATnospampopd.ix.netcom.com>
I'm laughing, Yawning, nervous, bored.
Awake yet sleepy. My chakras are spinning, or is that just the room as I
lie in bed after a few brews.
"Surely I could tell, when I sleep tonight a dream will form,
and raise it's head in majesty. Deviding all my energy, to the meeting of
your love." --Anderson, Wakeman, Bruford and Howe. Previously YES
This cd has some truely moving songs.
Can a blind man taste life more fully than a man with sight? And does it
matter?
Good Night All.
John Halonen
How long can that subject be anyway?
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 16:42:00 -0700
From: Phillip & Leigh Hurley <lphurleyATnospamplainfield.bypass.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Enjoying his karma-Phil
Message-ID: <3356B548.1AA7ATnospamplainfield.bypass.com>
DChern1123ATnospamaol.com wrote:
>
> I'm going away for the weekend, Phil and when I get back,I hope youre
> gone.You won't last for long anyway probably make up some kind of excuse .
I'll still be here, you can always try some black magic or letter bomb
or something. That might work. However if you and some of the other
people would realize how attached to your own aversion of me --like wise
yogis you would ignore me totally --Can you do it? You are just adding
more fuel to the fire.
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 17:14:18 -1000 (HST)
From: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospammail.snet.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
Message-Id: <199704180314.RAA15214ATnospamhaleakala.aloha.net>
Nine years ago I had what is termed a spontaneous "unitive conscious"
experience.
I was reading "A Course In Miracles".
The Course stated any child of God could awaken from this dream at any
moment he chose.
I put the book down and applied all my Intent toward this purpose.
A channeled thought kept repeating,"My brother and I are one."
Suddenly Eistein's theory of relativity was more than just a theory for
me.
Distance had lost its relevance.
The distance between my body and the other side of the room was both the
distance equal to the diameter a sub-atomic particle and the length of
the universe.
I felt the powerful Kundalini energy flow up my spine, shooting out
of my head and circulate back down a few feet in front of my body.
LOVE was an Absolute Reality.
Beyond idea or abstaction.
Tears streamed from my eyes.
An orgasm of Awareness.
Then I sensed an energy that wrapped itself around the perimeter of the
room.
It was Us. All of Us. And We All knew it.
Each one of Us, a point on the circumference of the energy wheel.
It was painstakingly obvious that it was We who were every living cell.
Every blade of grass. Every animal that ever was.
Then I sensed enegy from above in the ceiling.
It was the Father and We could go up and be with Him if We wanted to.
But then earthly thoughts intruded.
I began to wonder how I would be able to go to work in such a state.
I felt the attachment of wanting to be in a relationship.
I became afraid.
And then I was an individual again.
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 23:35:12 -0400 (EST)
From: Nancy Kar <nkarATnospamfreenet.npiec.on.ca>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: losing it...
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.93.970417231758.19685B-100000ATnospamfreenet.npiec.on.ca>
I have had repeated readings telling me that my throat chakra was out of
place....like sitting 2ft beside my throat. I swallow my feelings, don't
tell people how I feel, so as not to hurt others. So I have been working
on expressing myself vocally.
and then there is the K energy that has been getting really naughty
lately.
I'll catch myself feeling uncomfortable and trying to squeeze the energy
back down. When I realize what I'm doing I relax and take a deep breath
and breath it up my spine a few times. I feel better but I was just
thinking yesterday that.. if it feels so intense physically. I wonder what
it's going to do to my temperment, emotions etc.
Well... I think I found out today.
yuppers.. I lost my temper and voiced to *all* how I felt.
I just felt like I didn't care about anything, anymore.
You see I'm always the cool and collected one. I never let others know
that things bother me....things just roll off my shoulders.
So...
When the quiet one loses it...
it's not a very good thing.
I think it's worse than someone who loses it regularly.
I feel happy that I found my anger but very guilty that I hurt my friends
feelings. Who I have tried to apologise to... but I don't think she's
going to trust me for awhile.
sigh...
anyone else had a hard day? <grin:>
or
want to be yelled at? hahaha:)
WaterFall
* " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " *
Looking through Lightworking eyes,
Living through a Loveworking heart.
'Keep your face to the sunshine and you will not see the shadows' -H. Keller
In lak'ech Nancy...WaterFall in spirit nkarATnospamfreenet.npiec.on.ca
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 23:00:38 -0700
From: Phillip & Leigh Hurley <lphurleyATnospamplainfield.bypass.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Was that a "baaa I heard?
Message-ID: <33570E06.28DDATnospamplainfield.bypass.com>
LibraKat11ATnospamaol.com wrote:
>
> Lovable Phil wrote:
>
> << It is easy to lead sheep - They do not ask
> questions -about your credibility - they do not challenge - and thus
> they become so much mutton for the rack. >>
>
> Are you suggesting that those on the list are sheep? On the contrary, I
> thought everyone seemed to question many things and invite different views
> and opinions as well. The list is diverse, with many in different stages of
> K , but everyone seems to have a mind of their own and for the most part,
> people seem to *agree to disagree* without hard feelings.
>
> Flame away Phil -- I feel sure your ego can't resist telling yet another
> person that they too are wrong. Take care though, sooner or later you'll
> burn yourself.
>
> Not just some mutton on a rack,
>
> Kat (Meooow!)
Guess What!Your opinion is of no consequence to me.
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 00:02:09 -0700
From: Phillip & Leigh Hurley <lphurleyATnospamplainfield.bypass.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: a great tan
Message-ID: <33571C71.4154ATnospamplainfield.bypass.com>
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E Jason wrote:
>
> WARNING ----------- VERY RUDE WORDS AHEAD ---------
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> May contain rude words
> e.g. Bugger your Moth**
> and Fuck the Bud***
>
> ------------------------
>
> Phillip & Leigh Hurley wrote:
>
> > > The Lystmystress has called for cooling off and higher regard. I won't
> > > post this to the list for that reason. Let's make up and be nice.
> > > Morgana
>
> > My dear Morgana (not so wise)
>
> "Let's make up and be nice?"
> Well done to Morgana Wyze - wise enough to be nice.
>
> > -If to you heart centered awareness
> > includes making statements like buggering the Buddha and fucking your
> > mother as a representation of left hand tantrika practice as tom has
> > stated then your right-I am one rude dude because I am not impressed
> > with this statement and I need to say something about the sewer he
> > considers his source of enlightenment.
>
> Lobster dances in delight . . .
> All in your head my delightful true disciple of the Left
> Tom has shown that the stars are in the sewers
> and vice versa
Yes he has really shown us all how to pee in our soup bowls and eat from
our toilet bowls. Methinks an aristocratic muse be he - so much more
wise than the common crowd---Let them eat cake --he says. If only he
would have told NASA that the stars could be found in the sewers, we
could have saved the taxpayer so much money. I think I will vote for him
for president and thus we can all stick our telescopes in the toilets
once again, and imprison some Galileos, and who knows what else. Form
follows thought and thought follows form and you follow tom."FLUSH" We
all get charged toll on the bridge, which is really not
there))))))))))))))))))))))))
> His mind is inside out - no attachment to restricted mentality
> There is no need to lock up your Buddha´s
> and he worships your Mother
>
> > He like many others feels that he
> > is immune from the effects of his statements to others. Not so. and I am
> > here to prove that point. It is easy to lead sheep - They do not ask
> > questions -about your credibility - they do not challenge - and thus
> > they become so much mutton for the rack.
>
> THIS HAVE I HEARD:
> "He has come to guide us
> And he shall lead the sheep by the Left
> and they shall ask that he be nice
> and he shall say - not likely I am the rude dude
> And he shall deny Cigars to the Wise"
>
> [ . . . no yawning at the back]
>
> > It is no wonder that the
> > heaven's gate incident occured. By the way I am not judging their right
> > to do what they wanted to do --but one does wonder about what could be
> > a sad case of lack of discrimination on the part of the followers.
>
> Please note (especially the mutton racked):
> Do not join cults
> or commit suicide
> - it may effect your health and future ascension
>
> > So
> > you need to be a little more on the ball dear. You have children-so give
> > them your best and for your sake I hope they dont become tantrikas as if
> > Mr. Aston is correct then....................... You fill in the blanks.
> > Aren't you glad he left that bit of wisdom for us all never to forget?
>
> Yes thou rackers of mutton
> and especially Morgana (Lady with no Cigar
> and apparently an antelope or deer?)
> If your Tantrikas (or tantrums) become children
> laugh at them . . .
>
I quite agree with you, said the Duchess; "and the moral of that
is---'Be what you would seem to be'--or, if you'd like it put more
simply--'Never imagine yourself not to be otherwise than what it might
appear to others that what you were or might have been was not otherwise
than what you had been would have appeared to them to be otherwise."
-Alice
> Most Kind Regards
> (extra nice) Lobster
>
> PS. teach us more Phil - teach us more . . .
> (having fun - heh heh heh . . . )(So am I or is it am so I or I so Am or Am I so?-------aso!!!!! I am))))))))))))))))))))
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 18:09:21 -1000 (HST)
From: "David Bozzi ; RE: Nancy Kar" <david.bozziATnospammail.snet.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
Message-Id: <199704180409.SAA01818ATnospamhaleakala.aloha.net>
Nancy,
You mentioned that since your K energy is so physically intense you
wonder how it will affect your emotions and your temperament.
It is intense because you repress it.
It is good that you know this.
Your outburst is repressed energy seeking resolution.
If you maintain attention to this, your tendency to repress
will pass.
As for your emotions?
They will only benefit and become settled as you release the building
energy and approach a healthy equilibrium.
The K energy eventually won't be so intense and instead of outbursts you
will distribute it in more healthy, creative ways.
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 02:45:07 -0400 (EDT)
From: PenofLoveATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: So long folks..enjoy life
Message-ID: <970418024506_1220022678ATnospamemout03.mail.aol.com>
Well..way to much mail and not sure I need it all in my life either...so I
wish you all well ...love to all of you...I am sure if you stay within this
area of content it is for a reason...I seem to have a grip on my kundalini
release and some confusion comes from different direction so best to be
eliminated here from kundaline forum. .catch ya on a rainbow friends..It was
short but a world of another world I must explore.bye penoflove
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 03:06:50 -0400 (EDT)
From: Atrious77ATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Hello
Message-ID: <970418030650_-99458108ATnospamemout20.mail.aol.com>
I have noticed that a lot of the people on this here list in using aol
if that is the case maybe some would like to disscuse the topics on the list
in live chat . If your interested reply and give your screen name or e-mail
me at Atrious77ATnospamaol.com!
Peace Brothers & Sisters we are all on the same journy!!!
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 06:25:37 -0700
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Who you are
Message-ID: <33577651.6EBCATnospamdial.pipex.com>
I would like to share a poem By Thich Nhat Hahn
"Please call me by my true names"
Do not say that I'll depart tomorrow
because even today I still arrive...
I still arrive, in order to laugh and to cry,
in order to fear and to hope,
the rhythm of my heart is the birth and death
of all that are alive . . .
I am a frog swimming happily in the clear water of a pond,
and I am the grass-snake, who, approaching
in silence, feeds itself on the frog.
I am the child in Uganda, all skin and bones,
my legs as thin as bamboo sticks,
and I am the arms merchant selling deadly
weapons to Uganda
I am the twelve year old girl, refuggee on
a small boat,
who throws herself into the ocean
after being raped by a sea pirate,
and I am the pirate, my heart not yet
capable of seeing and loving . . .
Please call me by my true names,
So I can hear all my cries and laughs at once,
So I can see that my joy and pain are one.
Please call me by my true names
So I can wake up and so the door of my heart can be left open
The door of compassion.
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