1997/04/13 11:26
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #159
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 159
Today's Topics:
Re: The dissapearance of Dan G.
Re: kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #158
Re: the guru's grace, shaktipat and the journey home
Rodin
Re: On the subject of egoism
Dan G....Antaris Ra
introduction
Re: introduction
Re: the guru's grace, shaktipat and the journey home
Re: introduction
Re: Meditational Music/Musical Meditation
Date: Sat, 12 Apr 1997 17:27:58 -0400
From: imtgATnospamjuno.com (tg xxx)
To: mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: The dissapearance of Dan G.
Message-ID: <19970412.172759.14342.1.imtgATnospamjuno.com>
Mystress....
Just wanted everyone to know I am in touch with DanG and he is doing
great.... he has had to change his internet service and has a new email
address, but has asked, at this time, to not divulge it. He is still
integrating, and I feel, from having many conversations with him, that he
is doing just fine. He plans on re-subscribing once again to the K-list,
but is taking a quiet break at this time from communications. He's a
real joy to talk with, and I'm sure it won't be long until he begins
lurking, then communicating with the K-ites once again. I have let him
know that postings have come in concerned about him and sending lots of
love at him....
BTW, I've done his astrology chart re: K windows, and it was going as
K-razy as
Dan RF's - much of the same stuff going on. I've done quite a few and
still finding the same thing. This was a much bigger project than I
expected, so those of you who asked for their chart to be done, I ask
that you please be patient with me - I will get to all of you soon. Such
interesting things I'm finding!
Love,
xxxtg <--------- on the web now!
http://members.aol.com/Teeegeee/tgshome.html
"Last night as I lay in bed looking at the stars,
I thought "where the hell is the ceiling?!"
On Fri, 11 Apr 1997 06:58:00 Mystress Angelique Serpent
<mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com> writes:
> Some have been inquiring as to the whereabouts of Dan G.
>
> The last time I heard from him, he said he was going into lurker
>mode
>awhile, to integrate. However, his mail has been getting returned
>since
>April 1, and I am going to have to unsub him, if the computer has not
>done
>so automatically already. I get every piece of bounced list mail back
>from
>the computer. K.list x 2 or 3, just to my mailbox, evryone who posts
>gts
>thier mail back too...
> I hope Dan G. is doing well with his integration and evolution.
> Dan G. lives in Toronto, if anyone wishes to look him up.
> Blessings, Angelique.
>
>
>
Date: Sat, 12 Apr 1997 17:31:54 -0400 (EDT)
From: NailssssssATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #158
Message-ID: <970412173153_-1436458018ATnospamemout05.mail.aol.com>
Please delete me from all mailing lists.
Date: Sat, 12 Apr 1997 16:33:49 -0500 (CDT)
From: Nothing Is <holi0007ATnospamitlabs.umn.edu>
To: Tom Aston <yogi.tomATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: the guru's grace, shaktipat and the journey home
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Yeah, there's a lot of "I"'s in here, but just take 'em as the zen way of
reverse effort: =)
After reading this I am hesitant to hastily recieve this
sacrament, of which I just recently think I have found a source for.
I think that I will allow my "gradual" awakening to fruit more before I
jump of the cliff(which I think it may like at this point). The
environment I live in(wild college house) would make it EXTREMELY
difficult to follow the karmic laws 100% justly. I think I would break,
which I am working on now: meditation on my own thoughts and actions.
So actually for this, my environment poses a good challenge to weaken my
ego, but after a shaktipat, from what I just read, I will end up in a
mental ward!!! I am working on more creative dimensions of my being like
jazz guitar(improvisation!) and drawing so I DO have outlets for the
excess energy I have now, in addition to the plain fact I love doing
these things. Also, I am reading and absorbing techniques on pranayama,
which is easily practiced anytime anywhere, and hatha yoga. I also plan
on going on with more occasional zen retreats, of which I find "just
sitting" a beautiful challenge. Maybe, after I graduate, who know's...I
live NOW.
bye,
Nothin' Is
Date: Sat, 12 Apr 1997 15:37:50 PDT
From: "anita grayson" <eiregrayATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Rodin
Message-Id: <199704122237.PAA01066ATnospamf43.hotmail.com>
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Yesterday,I got the priviledge of seeing an exibit of Rodin
and Michelangelo at the Phila. Art museum. The show was great. Draw-
ings of Michelangelo were beautiful. As an artist he is my favorite
for his life drawings (nudes). To see a drawing of Sybil from the
sistine chapel was great. I brought one home.
Rodin was a genius with his expressive works of the human.
I saw so much agony and estacy with his work. It reminded me of the
K. Seeing the agony when it is just too much. Human suffering. He
made a lot of hands. One had a woman in the left hand, it was called
the Devils hand. This reminded me of the left side and all its ego
trips. Then there was the right, Gods hand, this one had a man and
a woman within it. Quite impressive for someone who was not a spirit-
ual person.
His Statues of Adam and Eve were very dramatic. Always
the drama of human nature in his work. The men in his work "The
Citizens of Calais", was a very human look at the suffering. One
I loved in it was a man with his arm and head leaning to the right
side. He was dying. He was going to the right side, to God.
This is the man who made the statue the, "The Thinker and
the Kiss. The Thinker was part of his creation "The Gate of Hell,
inspired by Dante. The Thinker sits atop the cross in the work.
He was quite a thinker himself to display his work with
such emotion and sensual expression.
Anita
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Date: 12 Apr 97 20:56:51 EDT
From: Indira Singh <76460.3057ATnospamCompuServe.com>
To: "INTERNET:kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: On the subject of egoism
Message-ID: <970413005650_76460.3057_CHR51-1ATnospamCompuServe.COM>
<Lurk Off>
To: PenOfLove and Lobster:
-------------------- Begin Original Message --------------------
Message text written by INTERNET:kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
""I am"
"I like"
"I am"
Your one message is full of the egoism"
-------------------- End Original Message --------------------
Once again, I am saddened that the wisdom of the east is being misused by well
meaning and fervently searching members in the west.
Lobster, egoism has nothing to do with the number of times the subjective
pronoun is used.
PenofLove, you are right to question a lot of what you are receiving here. The
value of staying is to see how others' honest struggle on the same path as yours
can lead mostly to errors. Their courage in exploring and sharing their new
experiences and ideas verbally is laudable - and is the only way we all learn.
The wisdom to separate what is valuable for your path from that which is
misleading is something you have to do in pursuit of this sort of knowledge.
This forum, from what I have seen so far, might be a very worthwhile environment
to do that.
And at times, there might be some real insights into kundalini practice.
Indi-Anna
"If you meet the Buddha, kill him."
</Lurk Off>
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 21:59:34
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Dan G....Antaris Ra
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970411215934.2d677d94ATnospamdomin8rex.com>
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>Mystress....
>
>Just wanted everyone to know I am in touch with DanG and he is doing
>great.... he has had to change his internet service and has a new email
>address, but has asked, at this time, to not divulge it. He is still
>integrating, and I feel, from having many conversations with him, that he
>is doing just fine. He plans on re-subscribing once again to the K-list,
>but is taking a quiet break at this time from communications.
<snip>
>Love,
>xxxtg <--------- on the web now!
>http://members.aol.com/Teeegeee/tgshome.html
>
>"Last night as I lay in bed looking at the stars,
> I thought "where the hell is the ceiling?!"
It is good to hear he is well....he might have at least, had the
consideration to unsub himself, when he changed addresses....rather than
let our mailboxes get jammed with his bounced mail.
In other news, I have the new address of beloved Antaris Ra
Melchizidek...so if anyone seeks to reach him, send me a post with his name
in the header and I will forward it to him. I do not know if he prefers to
keep his new address confidential or not, so I am being discreet. I am sure
he will get back to you to give it to you himself...
Blessings, Angelique.
Mystress Angelique Serpent,
Dominant Experiential Facilitator.
Website= http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent
*******************
Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils.
-- Hector Louis Berlioz
Sure, it's going to kill a lot of people, but they may be dying of
something else anyway. -- Othal Brand, member of a Texas pesticide
review board
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Vancouver, B.C., Canada. Officially the most beautiful city in the world.
Date: Sun, 13 Apr 1997 15:43:55 +0500 (GMT+0500)
From: Sunil R Peswani <peswaniATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net.in>
To: kundalini-l <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: introduction
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Name: Ram Peswani
Age : 60
Brief background:Well educated with couple of engineering degrees.
Well read and practicle down to earth successful
life with well established childern.
Atheist to beginwith ..and now searching for God
if God is there.
At age fifty took the decision to wind up my
wordly duties in next five years and take up a line of action to search
for God or meaning to this life if any.
On 30th June 92 that is at the age of fiftyfive
started vipassana meditation under Mr Goenka with an inkling that I
might get my path.
On 6th July 92 I got connected to my inner voice
and have vigorously cotinued my type of meditation (not exactly like
vipassana) without looking back and almost full time.
There were many ups and downs.There were many
dangers on the way. But the voice has been guiding me well.
You can judge my present state by my following
opinions of what I have read on Shared transfomation.
(I hope no one minds and neglect it if one does not like)
E.Jason...I have agreed with your opinions all (yes all) the
times but what a poetic way of expressing
Tom Aston... What an eastern knowledge, we could sit and talk and talk
I have lived in Himalyan caves for months and in company of fakirs and
sadhus as one of them in 94-95. Have met saints with sidhis who could
enter my body , who could read my each and every word of mind without
opening my mouth. I had to run away after gathering my full will power
before he took kover my body and soul.
Dan Galihinger,Cecil Megregor....I hope you are guided by blessed
spirits , though it is always better for you to be in control , and to be
guided by the opinions held by common down to earth neighbours and
friends who are not going thro K experience.
Jon Locke ...Should take the guidence from "Nirmala Devi". She is
one of the great saint and probably french citizen. You can read her
literatutre on www to understand as to what is happening .You might be
on something but just in case... As per Nirmala Devi there are good and
bad spirits and also good but unpracticle as per present times are
concerned spirits.
I hope I have mirrored my self to you , by taking up the selected
personalities.
I have changed and am still changing.
Most interesting service that was provided by me was in the month
of feb.97. I sat with 103 hard core criminals (87 of them murderers) for
2-3 hours for 10 day vipassana meditation that was held in Yerwada jail
in Poona city in India. I offer my reguolar service to vipassana
meditators at various camps in Poona where I live. In an enclosure where
all the guards were shunted out a number of outsiders provided services
like teaching the meditation , providing special food etc.
What you hope to get?.....truely there is no self left who hopes
to get so question started the path and like Jason said the question has
become an answer.
Ram
Date: Sun, 13 Apr 1997 06:14:05 -0400 (EDT)
From: PenofLoveATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: introduction
Message-ID: <970413061404_571748018ATnospamemout11.mail.aol.com>
Ram..yes there is a god.
Date: Sun, 13 Apr 1997 10:47:02 +0100
From: Tom Aston <yogi.tomATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
To: Nothing Is <holi0007ATnospamitlabs.umn.edu>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: the guru's grace, shaktipat and the journey home
Message-ID: <vequtCAWuKUzEwxCATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
In message <Pine.GSO.3.95q.970412161515.15564A-100000ATnospampiranha.itlabs.umn
.edu>, Nothing Is <holi0007ATnospamitlabs.umn.edu> writes
>
>Yeah, there's a lot of "I"'s in here, but just take 'em as the zen way of
>reverse effort: =)
>
> After reading this I am hesitant to hastily recieve this
>sacrament, of which I just recently think I have found a source for.
>I think that I will allow my "gradual" awakening to fruit more before I
>jump of the cliff(which I think it may like at this point). The
>environment I live in(wild college house) would make it EXTREMELY
>difficult to follow the karmic laws 100% justly. I think I would break,
>which I am working on now: meditation on my own thoughts and actions.
>So actually for this, my environment poses a good challenge to weaken my
>ego, but after a shaktipat, from what I just read, I will end up in a
>mental ward!!! I am working on more creative dimensions of my being like
>jazz guitar(improvisation!) and drawing so I DO have outlets for the
>excess energy I have now, in addition to the plain fact I love doing
>these things. Also, I am reading and absorbing techniques on pranayama,
>which is easily practiced anytime anywhere, and hatha yoga. I also plan
>on going on with more occasional zen retreats, of which I find "just
>sitting" a beautiful challenge. Maybe, after I graduate, who know's...I
>live NOW.
>
>bye,
>Nothin' Is
>
yep, there's no going back...and in a mad world only the mad are
sane..first law of Tantric practice....and , well, our sense of self is
the problem not the solution, so even the thought of it all is a bit
scary....what - no me ? regards Yogi Tom
--
Tom Aston
Date: Sun, 13 Apr 1997 08:18:08 -0700
From: Dan <stampmanATnospamix.netcom.com>
To: PenofLoveATnospamaol.com
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: introduction
Message-ID: <3350F930.258CATnospamix.netcom.com>
Ram,
Yes, there is not a god. If there was it could not be.
Love and LAUGHING LIGHT,
Dan-RF
Date: Sun, 13 Apr 1997 19:45:32 +0300 (EET DST)
From: Jari Vanha-Eskola <vanhaeskATnospamcc.helsinki.fi>
To: mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com (Mystress Angelique Serpent)
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com (Kundalini list)
Subject: Re: Meditational Music/Musical Meditation
Message-Id: <199704131645.TAA26220ATnospamkruuna.Helsinki.FI>
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> Yes indeedy, I find dancing to be very energising. I used to go hit
> the nightclubs once or twice a month (gay clubs, to avoid being hit on)
> just to lose myself to the music and lights, let my body shake itself
> back into balance.
I don't know what it is about music, but I admit I'm addicted. I just
have to have my share of dancing at least once a week, preferably more.
The last month has been a very active period in my life energywise and
I've just had to go dancing quite often.
Your experiences on the dance floor sound very similar to mine... if the
music is good, I just loose myself in it, sort of like entering a trance
state. And the beauty of it is that the more I dance the better it
feels... so much so that it's getting difficult to stop. But then, of
all the addictions one could have, this is probably the safest!
I used to explain all the good effects by the endorphine released by the
body after excercise, but your message among other things has made me
consider other explanations, too, like balancing the energies in the
body and maybe releasing some blockages... If you have further theories
about the subject, I'd gladly hear more about it!
Love, Jari
--
Jari Vanha-Eskola ! Internet: Jari.Vanha-EskolaATnospamhelsinki.fi
University of Helsinki ! WWW: http://www.helsinki.fi/~vanhaesk/
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