1997/04/05 18:15
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #146
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 146
Today's Topics:
INNER PEACE WARNING
Re: That Man/Woman Thing-thang
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Re: Sex and dirt
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Re: Fwd: My kundalini & my mate's heart
Sex and dirt
Re: That Man/Woman Thing-thang
Thank You
Re: That Man/Woman Thing-thang
Unnaceptable Questions
Re: Big Trees
Re: Wot no web page?
Re: Man/woman, Sex and dirt, etc
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Date: Fri, 4 Apr 1997 18:50:38 -0500 (EST)
From: voltronATnospamvoy.net (Jon Locke)
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>SYMPTOMS OF INNER PEACE
> by Saskia Davis
>
>Be on the lookout for symptoms of inner peace. The hearts of a great
>many have already been exposed to inner peace and it is possible that
>people
>everywhere could come down with it in epidemic proportions. This could
>pose a serious threat to what has, up to now, been a fairly stable
>condition of conflict in the world.
>
>Some signs and symptoms of inner peace:
>
> .A tendency to think and act spontaneously rather than on fears based
>on past experiences.
>
> .An unmistakable ability to enjoy each moment.
>
> .A loss of interest in judging other people.
>
> .A loss of interest in judging self.
>
> .A loss of interest in interpreting the actions of others.
>
> .A loss of interest in conflict.
>
> .A loss of the ability to worry. (This is a very serious symptom)
>
> .Frequent, overwhelming episodes of appreciation.
>
> .Contented feelings of connectedness with others and nature.
>
> .Frequent attacks of smiling.
>
> .An increasing tendency to let things happen rather than make them
> happen.
>
> .An increased susceptibility to the love extended by others as well as
> the uncontrollable urge to extend it.
>
> *WARNING*
>
>If you have some or all of the above symptoms, please be advised that
>your condition of inner peace may be so far advanced as to not be
>curable. If
>you are exposed to anyone exhibiting any of these symptoms, remain
>exposed only at your own risk.
>
>
>
>Most Kind Regards
>Lobster
>
Jon Locke
The Philosopher's Stone
http://www.voy.net/~voltron/
Date: Fri, 04 Apr 97 18:24:38 PST
From: "Claudia McNeely" <whitedoveATnospamtexramp.net>
To: "kundalini l" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: That Man/Woman Thing-thang
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> > M wrote:
> >
> > > ????
> > >
> > > So many theories about woman's role in enlightenment and man's role in
> > > agression and competition add to my thoughts about "a beneficial side
> > > effect" of condom use to our species...aiding the evolution of the
general
> > > population as women are less impacted with the physical essence of
male
> > > aggressive energy and "emotional dirt" etc. and therefore . . .
> > >
> > > Does this make sense (albeit weird sense) to anyone else?
> > >
> > > M
Isn't this being a little hard on men. Granted there are a lot of men that
this statement fits, but there are also a lot of men that this statement
does not fit. Most of the men I have met who are on their spiritual
journey are not as aggressive as the average male. And everyone has
emotional dirt.
The only way to change the men of the world is for us to change the way we
raise our children. Boys are taught to hide their feelings. 'Big boys
don't cry.' 'Don't be a sissy.' 'You've got to be tough.' It is no
wonder men grow up with so much 'emotional dirt.' Let's not bash them for
that but show them how to be different, and allow them to be different.
Women say they want a man who is in touch with his feminine side, but that
is not who they chose to be with. Men who are in touch with their feminine
side are usually overlooked for the 'aggressive guys with emotional dirt.'
Give me a man in touch with his feminine side any day.
Claudia
whitedoveATnospamtexramp.net
www.texramp.net/~whitedove
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 1997 14:54:22 -1000 (HST)
From: DarkWay <DarkWayATnospamhotmail.com>
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Well what happed today
Dislocated my right knee cap when going with the Flow being pushed into odd posistions and such
Also Blisters in my mouth.
I can not get it psat a block in my heart chakra if anyone knows a fix for this and helping suggestions please Respond
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 1997 15:35:23 -1000 (HST)
From: Dee <ETurman384ATnospamaol.com>
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Lanie?My computer went A-WALL and I was not able to get your E-mail address to write you back.
Also, I am having problems sending my mail to people on the list, it always comes back to me. Isn't the E-mail address Kundalini-1ATnospamexecpc.com ? Anyone got some advice for me, I don't know much about this computer stuff- it is a different reality.
Date: Fri, 04 Apr 1997 17:43:40 -0800
From: Joe Patrick Flarity <joeATnospamflarity.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Sex and dirt
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>
> M wrote:
> >
> >
> > >I really agree with this from an empath's energy. We are wide open
> > >during sex.
>
How wonderful it must be for those of us who are 'wide open' all the
time.
>
> The fewer sexual partners the better, and they have to be
> > >pretty clear and clean or we deal with their emotional "dirt" entering
> > >into our second chakra.
>
When I smell the roses, must I walk past the daisies because my nose is
promised to another? And what of those tulips, trampled by little boys
engaged in indiscriminate soccer play. Are they no longer worthy of my
embrace?
> >
> > This exchange goes to the very top of my Suspicions Confirmed File. Thanks,
> > you guys. I needed that.
> > Where else can I possibly get confirmation of my
> > experiences, validation of it, information, etc.
>
We cannot change the past, but we can always change our perception of
it. Feel the peeling of your past events and the glory in lessons well
learned--excellent. Was it the events that mattered, or the expanded
viewpoint of the journeyer?
>
> >
> > So many theories about woman's role in enlightenment and man's role in
> > agression and competition add to my thoughts about "a beneficial side
> > effect" of condom use to our species...aiding the evolution of the general
> > population as women are less impacted with the physical essence of male
> > aggressive energy and "emotional dirt" etc. and therefore . . .
> >
Variety is such a desert and even the flowers need dirt to
grow? What yearning in the trees growing through defiant rock?
You share your partner's air. You share their space and touch. To
enter
another's private space without the feelings of equality and sharing
would lead one to believe that the agenda was something based on a
deeper personal need not represented in the moment.
To every woman I knew, I gave what I could and took what they offered. I
treasure each moment and each possiblity lost. The permutations
of sex are as varied as any facet of life. We see in them what we
will--just like all life.
Still growing,
Joe
Date: Fri, 04 Apr 1997 10:46:40 +0000
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: Amber SilverWolf <aberman1ATnospamic3.ithaca.edu>
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Amber SilverWolf wrote:
>
> On Wed, 2 Apr 1997, Gloria Greco wrote:
>
> > HI, Not to differ from this but I wouldn't manipulate the flow at all,
> > instead I would work at becoming grounded in the heart center and
> > filling the soul/spirit with transformational love. When you do this the
> > other things naturally fall into place as the frequency of the body
> > raises through love. Those who make it a practice of trying to do
> > anything miss the purpose of the meditation experience which is to
> > connect up to the divine stream and move spontaneously without thought
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > or focus on any self-involved thought. God first, then simply purify
> > your self, reflect, let go and connect up into love. It can be simple if
> > you allow it to be. Gloria
>
> <g> This is what I am referring to when I speak of connecting. Then
> there's grounding and centering. It's so cool to meet people who have the
> same ideas I do, but never went to the same school of thought as I did.
> Who says there is no order in this universe?
Hi Amber,
Its the human way to make this difficult, actually God invites us home
and sets the way very clear if you simply come into it through humility
and knowing that you are totally dependant on God to take you there.
That surrender is worth lifetimes of effort, but I know for some it
seems impossible. Why? Does not God invite you to his supper, does
he/she not cause the sun to shine to light your way, can it be any
different to find your way in your spiritual life. Faith, applied faith
even is a great power in your hands. Gloria
>
>
Date: Fri, 04 Apr 1997 11:08:31 +0000
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: SKidder333ATnospamaol.com
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Fwd: My kundalini & my mate's heart
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SKidder333ATnospamaol.com wrote:
>
> ---------------------
> Forwarded message:
> Subj: My kundalini & my mate's heart
> Date: 97-04-03 19:58:26 EST
> From: SKidder333
> To: kundalini-lATnospamexec.com
>
> Three years ago, following a much needed personal and spiritual search and
> years of totally naive vipasanna-like meditative practice (I was combining
> natural child birth breathing exercises and trying to empty my mind of all
> thoughts in order to relieve my arthritic pain) and lastly a holotropic
> breath session.....WHAM ...one night I had sparks flying from my elbow and
> it was the beginning of something I had never even heard about. Fortunately
> the right people were readily available and the intervening years have been
> filled with education along with my experiences.
>
> Two years ago I attended the KRN conference in Philadelphia, but due to the
> pace of the conference and my insatiable need to attend EVERYTHING I could,
> there was not time to develop personal relationaships. So I'm throwing this
> out there with the hope that some of you might share your
> opinions/knowledge/experience...whatever with me.
>
> Five weeks ago today my husband had quadruple bypass surgery. His recovery
> is unremarkable except he cannot achieve a normal heart rhythm. Before being
> released from the hospital they had to cardio convert him (electric shock),
> but he continues to slip into arythmia and now is on coumadin (blood thinner)
> as there is concern over clotting and strokes.
>
> Here's my question.....Is it possible that my energies could be affecting
> him? For quite a long time I've felt very centered and walked through the
> before/during/after surgery days with no fear or concern. BUT, might I,
> could I be harming him?
> And if I am, what might proper precautions be? I'm thanking anyone in
> advance for your effort and response. Love in the Spirit.
Skidder,
I wouldn't take this that way at all, your love by its self would
regulate anything coming from you to him. Spirit when it is concentrated
on doing God's Will creates a healing environment, this energy is not
negative, it is as far the opposite as you can get. Here is what I
suugest: remove your fears and thoughts, your projections, and guilt
can be causing a problem but certainly not the love or spiritual energy
coming from you. He is not an electrical piece of equipment like a
machine he is the same complex frequency set up as you are.
And, what you need to do to assist him is put him totally on your inner
altar for God to care for, this is your heart center. You yourself can't
do anything other then manipulate his lifeforce and those decisions his
soul/spirit is making in his behalf. Instead, by totally knowing that
God's plan is working for both you and his spirt/body.Your faith will
naturally center on God's Will and the purpose for your husband at this
moment in time. Then you give him the best of both worlds. And, you
release yourself from the burdens you are carrying here and now.
I have a dear friend that is in the final stages of liver cancer. She
and I are very close, she knows that I am there to assist her transition
and the light transfusions that come to her through my energy field is
totally committed to her work with Divine Will. This means that she has
the freedom to draw on this light savings account according to the need
that her spirit working with first cause, divine will, or God,( how ever
you relate) needs.
This is always freeing for the soul/spirit of both parties, and it
draws you both closer to God. Gloria
Date: Fri, 04 Apr 1997 23:09:10 -0800
From: Ken McFarland <kenmATnospamOREGON.UOREGON.EDU>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Sex and dirt
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And now you ask in your heart, "how shall we distinguish
that which is good in pleasure from that which is not
good?"
Go to your fields and your gardens, and you shall learn
that it is the pleasure of the bee to gather honey of the
flower,
But it is also the pleasure of the flower to yield its honey
to the bee.
For to the bee a flower is a fountain of life,
And to the flower a bee is a messenger of love,
And to both, bee and flower, the giving and the receiving
of pleasure is a need and an ecstasy.
. . . The Prophet
Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 12:29:34 +0100
From: Tom Aston <yogi.tomATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, Claudia McNeely <whitedoveATnospamtexramp.net>
Subject: Re: That Man/Woman Thing-thang
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In message <MAPI.Id.0016.0048495445444f563030303930303039ATnospamMAPI.to.RFC822
>, Claudia McNeely <whitedoveATnospamtexramp.net> writes
>
>
>----------
>Give me a man in touch with his feminine side any day.
>Claudia
>whitedoveATnospamtexramp.net
>www.texramp.net/~whitedove
>
The trouble is that men who have really connected with the inner goddess
don't really need a woman too on the outside although this can be a
pleasant bonus....so women in search of more than libido and machismo
and ego - which can manifest in very subtle ways - are very lucky if
they find it in the form of a truly integrated and balanced man who is
open to a relationship....well, that's a yogi's point of view
anyway...so fancy a date, and then back to my place for a spot of wild
passionate meditation ? Yogi Tom xxxxx
--
Tom Aston
Date: Sat, 5 Apr 97 12:20:31 UT
From: "Chester Smith" <CSStPaulATnospammsn.com>
To: "Kundalini" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Thank You
Message-Id: <UPMAIL02.199704051218190286ATnospammsn.com>
Dor, Daniel T., Flute, Joe P. F., Morgana W., Jan W., Paul E., Eugene F.:
Thank ALL OF YOU for responding to my questions. Sorry this is coming so
late.
There is great comfort in knowing you are there. You sent more than words in
your e-mail.
:)
Chester
Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 09:08:30 -0600 (CST)
From: Nothing Is <holi0007ATnospamitlabs.umn.edu>
To: Tom Aston <yogi.tomATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
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Subject: Re: That Man/Woman Thing-thang
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On Sat, 5 Apr 1997, Tom Aston wrote:
> In message <MAPI.Id.0016.0048495445444f563030303930303039ATnospamMAPI.to.RFC822
> >, Claudia McNeely <whitedoveATnospamtexramp.net> writes
> >
> >
> >----------
> >Give me a man in touch with his feminine side any day.
> >Claudia
> >whitedoveATnospamtexramp.net
> >www.texramp.net/~whitedove
> >
> The trouble is that men who have really connected with the inner goddess
> don't really need a woman too on the outside although this can be a
> pleasant bonus....so women in search of more than libido and machismo
> and ego - which can manifest in very subtle ways - are very lucky if
> they find it in the form of a truly integrated and balanced man who is
> open to a relationship....well, that's a yogi's point of view
> anyway...so fancy a date, and then back to my place for a spot of wild
> passionate meditation ? Yogi Tom xxxxx
> --
> Tom Aston
>
How do I connect with the inner goddess? =)
bye,
nothing is
Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 09:05:23 -0800
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: Mochin <mochinATnospamshamash.org>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Unnaceptable Questions
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It has come to my attention
that perception based on conclusions
are as meaningless
as conclusive perceptions
which is of course
equal if only in being
meaningless
In order to destructure the
intellectual basis in order to
feel and perceive rather
than know what is unknowable
we can say many things
ultimately all meaning as much the opposite
as the experience eternally absorbing
the very doubtful nature into acceptance
by engaging in the process
by bypassing the passing thoughts
into fluid expression
we ennoble and enable the combining
of our own part
this communication generally
conveys more a rhythmic ability
to swap in and out from conventional reality
being unconfined to one meaning
or less
Most Kind Regards
Lobster
Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 11:20:09 -0500 (EST)
From: CGIAJWATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Big Trees
Message-ID: <970405112009_808176920ATnospamemout09.mail.aol.com>
I too often have that numbness, and it is perhaps the dark nights which have
turned to grey nights within our shinning grace. I believe your problem with
loving God may lye in you definations of God. Instead of trying to connect
through a person to person experience, try to experience God in the
everything of this reality. Note the Past and Present, all times, all being,
all things, and physics. God, by definition must be in all these things, try
to connect with the subtle parts of God, when you can find the traces, hone
in and bring the feeling to the surface.
for removing the numbness, it's extremely hard to just "feel the love".
Instead, remeber to when you were a small child, happy at play, tumbling in
warm laundry and fascinated by a bug in the sunlight. Think to your love, or
when you where last in love, identify what the emotions and feeling were
within yourself. Now combine these two memories and intergrate them into
youself. You are still the child within and you are still the lover/loved wit
hin. Combine all these thoughts and feeling and smile and rub your head
against your sheets or some pillows. Perhaps fingerpaint.
Lotsa Love, gin in a tub, rub a dub dub :)
aaron
Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 11:48:25 -0500 (EST)
From: RWilli2ATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Wot no web page?
Message-ID: <970405114823_1750580203ATnospamemout10.mail.aol.com>
could use more info about the web page maker
thx
roseann
Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 14:15:19 -0800
From: Phillip & Leigh Hurley <lphurleyATnospamplainfield.bypass.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Man/woman, Sex and dirt, etc
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Another lurker flushed out:
Whooeee!
Hello everyone - frankly I don't have the time to participate much in
this list, but I couldn't let this one go by without speaking my piece.
I'm a tantric - vamacarin. Please allow me to present a bit of the
perspective from the far left hand, so to speak.
For me tantra is far, far more than some very kewl sexual/meditation
techniques and a few mantras (I'm definitely not knocking this part -
it's one of my favorite aspects of it). It is an intense asceticism of
the psychology, of the emotions, of the mind that is lived out in the
midst of "the world."
As a female, I am devoted to Shiva, and ALL MANIFESTATIONS of Shiva,
particularly any that respond in any way to me in as much as I manifest
Shakti. For me, this is the most holy thing there is on this planet. A
lustful look from a man walking down the street might be called by some
the leer of a dirty old man, but for me, it's a sacred thing - Shiva's
in his eyes. In my heart I bow to Shiva, and smile at the man. The
question in my heart is evoked "Shiva, what can I do for you?" and I
will do what I can...
As one opens up, yes psychic cooties are a real problem (actually
they're a problem for everybody, but some people aren't as aware of them
as others), but I would place the problem rather differently than others
have in this discussion. Actually if you're reasonably balanced, sex
with a stranger can be one of the most "pure" (I don't like that
word)and spiritual tantric experiences you can ever have (can really get
your K up). This is why, in tantra, classic instruction (which was
totally biased towards the male experience) does not say "do this sexual
exercise with your wife," but "go out and find a woman of ill-repute."
Alas, NONE of us is 100% Shiva or Shakti, and the more we know a person,
the more stuff is there in our consciousness about them that is not
quite Shiva/Shakti, and can make it harder to tune into the part that
is. There is an awesome "purity" about simple unadulterated lust, the
worshipful focus on the erect phallus (or the open yoni if you're a
guy). It's where the "high" comes from you get from the early stages of
"falling in love." It's the third element of the kamakala triangle -
male-female-desire.
So, OK that's the fun part. The dharma part is "how do you do this and
your relationships justly?" You must of course, also foster, nurture
and honor this same behavior in your husband/wife (primary Shiva/Shakti)
- another Shakti desiring and making love to my primary Shiva is also a
sacred thing. You have really never done tantra until you can watch
your lover making love to someone else, allow them to "fall in love
with someone else" and through it all keep your consciousness in a state
of worshipful bliss as you observe this aspect of the Shiva/Shakti
play. For in tantra, the only act that approaches anything like our
western concept of "sin" (avidya-ignorance) is to act with jealousy as a
motivation.
There was once a very "successful" swami, a brahmacharya, who was so
concerned about maintaining his sexual purity that in order to avoid all
contact with women, when he traveled, he would book a whole section of
the plane so that he would not risk having a woman near him... True
story. Expensive problem...
Also, I heard that all the Heaven's Gate men were castrated and no one
was allowed to have sex...
I have gone on rather long here, and will desist.
Make Love! Leigh
aka the Whore of Babylon (and proud of it)
"This is a material world, and I am a material girl..." Madonna
http://plainfield.bypass.com/~lphurley
Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 09:24:29 -1000 (HST)
From: Jodi Sykes <MoonGraceATnospamAOL.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
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Hi, MoonGrace here, I have just become a member of the mailing list and I was wondering if anyone had some information about the Summer Solstice in New Mexico? If so I would greatly appreciate it and I'm sure others would too to know more about it. Thankyou.
Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 12:53:51 -0800
From: Paul Ellis <pauleATnospamsirius.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Big Trees, etc.
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Hi Ken -
Your post got me thinking....
You said:
[SNIP]
> During the drive to and from the Redwoods I did quite a bit of thinking.
> It seems to me that my problem is the failure to experience excitement and
> joy especially in the naturally occuring next moment.
Hmmm. Well, for myself this ability (to feel excitement and joy in the next moment)
comes and goes. There have been times in my life where meditation and mindfullness
brought me to a place where I could really experience a lot of that. But then I've gone
thru other phases where (though my practices were just as steady) things just got very
bland and neutral, not much joy available. I guess I look for the fun stuff but try not
to become dependent on it (attached to it). When the positive experiences aren't
available to me I get still and turn inward. I tune into the "Ultimate
Self/Divine/God/One Being" (whatever term you like) which is always constant and
peaceful. I guess it is as so many meditative traditions say, experiences come and go,
but true _being_, true _identity_ is always the same, timeless.
> I find I lack the passion and emotional involvement which I observe in others.
> I embrace the concept of generalized love, but I seem to lack the warm fuzzies.
Yeah, me too. I look for the warm fuzzies where I can get them, but when I can't I do
what I mentioned above. It does seem to me that I (and maybe you?) go thru long phases
on my journey some of which are more joyous than others. Perhaps we'll get back to a
juicier phase sometime on down the road. I look for the good times, but without
_demand_. If I let go of expectations and get still, the peace inherent in each moment
is more available to me.
> I also seem to have difficulty with the concept of God or Higher Power or
> Great Mystery.
> Golas says that "The way out . . . is by being willing to conceive of it--by
> loving it. . ."
> I believe I am willing, but the concept is not integrating.
Can you feel what some call 'the still small voice' inside you? For me, if I tune into
it, it's very very real. But I have to remember to listen, otherwise it gets drowned
out by the noise of my thoughts, or the noise of the outside world, people, TV,
whatever. I think that 'voice' that 'presence' _is_ *the real you* (God/Higher Power).
So, God/Higher Power becomes a real _experience_ not just a _concept_. An experience as
real as the chair you're sitting on.
> I belive I am functionally disconnected from those right-brained feeling
> which give one a sense of God, home, love, etc.
The mystical traditions consider meditation to be that which reconnects 'you the
personality' to the 'you that is God'. In fact, I think 'yoga' and 'yoke' come from the
same root, or so I've heard it said.
> My left brain has trouble with the God concept.
> Perhaps you or others would share ideas about what is God.
I think sometimes my left brain is trying desperately to 'do it right' to be a 'good
soldier'. But I don't think reality can be completely understood in a left brain way.
The heart has reasons the mind can't grasp, you know? Sometimes it helps to throw my
left brain a bone. How's this: even science (the big bang cosmologists) holds that the
physical universe big banged itself out of a 'singularity' (science's word for One
entity which precedes everything). The mystical idea I've heard which makes the most
sense to me, which feels right, is that the whole universe is One being amusing itself
by exploring what it would be like to be rich and multifaceted. So the left brain can
be comforted that science itself aknowledges the universe to be something rather
'Godlike' after all. Although ultimately, for me, God/Higher Power, etc can't be fully
understood by the mind, but _can_ be felt.
Best to you, Ken.
Paul
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 21:09:34 +0000
From: David.WhiteATnospammail.bl.uk (David White)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re[2]: That Man/Woman Thing-thang
Message-ID: <000262D3.1424ATnospammail.bl.uk>
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What I don't quite understand is what happens in Homosexual relationships. Is
the goddess to be found in a male person, or a the god in a female person?
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Subject: Re: That Man/Woman Thing-thang
Author: Tom Aston <yogi.tomATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk> at Internet
Date: 05/04/97 12:29
In message <MAPI.Id.0016.0048495445444f563030303930303039ATnospamMAPI.to.RFC822
>, Claudia McNeely <whitedoveATnospamtexramp.net> writes
>
>
>----------
>Give me a man in touch with his feminine side any day.
>Claudia
>whitedoveATnospamtexramp.net
>www.texramp.net/~whitedove
>
The trouble is that men who have really connected with the inner goddess
don't really need a woman too on the outside although this can be a
pleasant bonus....so women in search of more than libido and machismo
and ego - which can manifest in very subtle ways - are very lucky if
they find it in the form of a truly integrated and balanced man who is
open to a relationship....well, that's a yogi's point of view
anyway...so fancy a date, and then back to my place for a spot of wild
passionate meditation ? Yogi Tom xxxxx
--
Tom Aston
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