1997/04/03 19:08
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #143
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 143
Today's Topics:
Energies out of balance in relationship...
Re: Drunvalo on the Pole Shift.
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Question for Tom Aston - and an answer
Question for Tom Aston - a yogi writes in answer....
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Re: Drunvalo on the Pole Shift.
excerpt from Phaedrus
FW: Energies out of balance in relationship...
3 steps to heaven
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Re: Question for Tom Aston - a yogi writes in answer....
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 1997 12:58:48 -0700 (MST)
From: Cameron <purenrgATnospamgoodnet.com>
To: K list <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Energies out of balance in relationship...
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Everybody,
I'm having an energy problem that I'm hoping somebody can help me with.
It's like this: I am a major circuit of energy and it has an effect on
everybody that comes into contact with me. I have done a good job of
keeping my energy balanced and contained within 3-4 feet around my body so
as to benefit myself and others I know. Being around me for limited
amounts of time tends to be uplifting for people and in the process of
giving them energy, I also gain energy. The problem that I am having is
that I am living with my girlfriend and I think the amounts of energy she
is getting from me are too much for her. She has been rather irrational
and excessively emotional, prone to being set off by *very*
little things that wouldn't have made her miss a beat a few weeks ago.
For a while I was just accepting it and moving on because of her natural
hormonal cycle being full swing. However, she is long past that and yet
still very out of balance. I have her do balancing meditations with me,
but she doesn't take the initiative to do these things without my urging
and it really has to be a daily thing to be fully effective. When she gets
down, she *really* gets down.
I don't want to do this to her!!
I have seen this happen in other relationships of mine and don't want
history to repeat itself. At least I have figured out the cause of
these episodes, now I need a cure. Could it be that I am a Karmic
catalyst and she is just working out old emotional issues? Is there a way
that I can help to balance her without making it seem like she has a
problem? (and I don't mean just being understanding, I do that already)
Can I help to balance her without her knowing that I am doing it?
Any and all suggestions will be very, very appreciated.
In Love and Light,
Cameron
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Cameron Dye | "Existence is pure joy...sorrows are
purenrgATnospamgoodnet.com | but as shadows; they pass & are done;
A really great home page: | but there is that which remains."
http://www.goodnet.com/~purenrg | - The Book of the Law -
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Date: Thu, 3 Apr 1997 15:10:33 -0500 (EST)
From: HawwunATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Drunvalo on the Pole Shift.
Message-ID: <970403151023_513136460ATnospamemout07.mail.aol.com>
In a message dated 97-04-03 14:46:42 EST, you write:
<< want to know what the rest of the people in this group think about
this...as some of this seems to get a bit deep in parts.
the final peace completes the whole
-doug >>
personally? does anybody really want my opinion? here it is anyway...this is
just some more Millenia Apocolytpic HOGWASH. most things of this ilk have
some convincing bases in fact then become scary so most individuals willl
want to run to the safety of the brethren & sistren under the guru who has a
connection with the BIG GUYS that say they can stop the impending disasters
or otherwise insure their survival...
looking outside ourselves for what's right or wrong, what's going to happen
or not takes our minds off ourselves. it lends perspective, which there is
nothing at all really wrong with that ... i practice that with meditation,
etc. but individuals could be better spending that energy on other things
and realizing they are complete and whole and all they need in and of
themselves... and living in the HERE & NOW fully and completely.
oh well, that's my opinion about this impending disaster. add that one to the
list of frightful millenia predictions. it is the scary thought of the
century turning into the unknown...we're all going to wake up and see that
IT'S JUST ANOTHER DAY.
NAN
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 1997 11:21:06 -1000 (HST)
From: DarkWay <DarkWayATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
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Pains in THe Spine come sometimes when I am meditating and moving energy
It get so intense that Your spie is vibrating all other limbs and stuff
anyone who knows what I mean respond with what you have found.
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 1997 22:02:37 +0100
From: Tom Aston <yogi.tomATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
To: HawwunATnospamaol.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Question for Tom Aston - and an answer
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In message <970403145738_854890940ATnospamemout12.mail.aol.com>, HawwunATnospamaol.com
writes
>In a message dated 97-04-03 13:30:04 EST, you write:
>
><< Dear Tom,
> With all this discussion going on celibacy and sexuality, I would like to
>ask
> you a few questions (please, pardon any terminologic incongruencies):
> 1. What do you think about so-called Tantric sex ot Taoist sex (Margo Anand,
> Mantak Chia, etc.)? To me it looks (and feels) like yet another way of
>awakenig
> Kundalini and, possibly, reaching the enlightment by practicing sexual yoga.
>
> 2. Why none of the tantric texts, that I know of, ever explicitly mentiones
>any
> sexual yogic practices per se?
> 3. Is energy being lost even in case of internal orgasm (no ejaculation
>while
> pressing on perineum), or in case of full-body orgasm (no ejaculation while
> mentally drawing orgasmic energy to the crown chakra, opening it and
> connecting...)?
> 4. What is your opinion on the whole matter? Please do not be brief, take
>your
> time, since this is a very important topic for me. I have been involved in
> sexual yoga for quite some time now...
>
> If anyone else have an opinion on the above matter, please share it!
>
> thanks,
> MMY >>
>
>
>i am not sure if this is really what you are asking for but i really want to
>share it coz i have been unsure about the whole thing...
>
>i am not 'DISCIPLINED" in kundalini or tantra but i am 'now and always have
>been' an EMPATH. i could always sense and feel what another person was
>feeling... anyway, for about 5 years this "expert" in tantra, tantric sex,
>healer, high priest had been letting me know he wanted to go to bed with me.
>after several months after being dumped by my ex, i consented.
>
>sex with "regular folks" (people not trained or skilled in the esoteric &
>arcana arts at all much less even know what it means) was usually intense due
>to their interest, and a feeling of rushing energy through the chakras,
>etc...
>
>sex with this degreed high priest expert who also professed to love me I FELT
>ABSOLUTELY NOTHING but the physical act, period. major letdown, no "tingles"
>and here i am being asked what it's like to make love with a tantric master.
>
>HMMMMMMMM. in answer to that question and what i THINK i know about tantra,l
>I still don't know what it's like to make love with a tantric master. i think
>i should have FELT a whole lot more... am i right?
>
>nan <---with the story off her chest.
>
Hi Nan, Tantric sex is all about truth, integrating and balancing the
dualistic energies within and without and expansive experience beyond
the normal confined realms of the contracted ego....this experience
sounds more like the total opposite of everything Tantra holds most
sacred. Sex does happen in Tantra in some contexts, but these should be
incredibly sincere and pure in a primordial sense, not really about some
dirty old man badgering you to lie down for him until you were so
vulnerable you agreed....if you ever meet the gods and goddesses within
in meditation you will be amazed at their sublime beauty and purity and
power...and they are with you forever, they are not interested in a one
night stand or a quick conquest, they want to join you in nirvana....sex
in this way is part of the seamless web of life and, as some posts on
this list have already pointed out, casual sex can have heavy karmic
consequences which the West is unaware of. Hope this helps clarify what
went wrong with master...regards yogi Tom
PS i was once very similar to this guy, so i'm not into judgement or
moralistic stands here, just pointing out reality of tantric sex....
--
Tom Aston
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 1997 21:20:38 +0100
From: Tom Aston <yogi.tomATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, Michael Yoshpa <74657.3001ATnospamCompuServe.com>
Subject: Question for Tom Aston - a yogi writes in answer....
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In message <970403182458_74657.3001_BHW40-1ATnospamCompuServe.COM>, Michael
Yoshpa <74657.3001ATnospamCompuServe.COM> writes
>Dear Tom,
>With all this discussion going on celibacy and sexuality, I would like to ask
>you a few questions (please, pardon any terminologic incongruencies):
>1. What do you think about so-called Tantric sex ot Taoist sex (Margo Anand,
>Mantak Chia, etc.)? To me it looks (and feels) like yet another way of awakenig
>Kundalini and, possibly, reaching the enlightment by practicing sexual yoga.
ummmhhh welllllll this is a big topic - have you seen my article on
kundalini and celibacy on bill peay's kundalini resource centre pages ?
There are many approaches to Tantric sex, I tried the Hindu one - mainly
using Swami Sivananda Radha's Kundalini Yoga for the West as a starting
point - to begin with, but found the Tibetan one suited me better and
used a bit of taoist alchemy - Richard Wilhelm's translation of The
Secret of the Golden Flower - too on the way. Sex is just the fuel for
meditation...it's the gods and goddesses who do all the work...you just
lie back and enjoy and then, after a while can forget sex altogether,
even the inner kind. The biggest problem i found was keeping the ego out
of the picture and spoiling all the fun. Also there's the initial crisis
of deprogramming lower chakras to stop them expecting conventional
outer sex when you start off....
>2. Why none of the tantric texts, that I know of, ever explicitly mentiones any
>sexual yogic practices per se?
hmmm, well some of the texts and songs i've seen can be pretty explicit
but also highly esoteric, like exhorting you to make love to your mother
and virtually anything else that is female - just a way of indicating
the need to integrate with the universal feminine principle....in a
sense it is a very western way of looking at sex to isolate it from the
rest of the yogic process...this is just another form of dualistic
experience that needs to be embraced, integrated, purified, synthesised
and sublimated and then let go of altogether...
>3. Is energy being lost even in case of internal orgasm (no ejaculation while
>pressing on perineum), or in case of full-body orgasm (no ejaculation while
>mentally drawing orgasmic energy to the crown chakra, opening it and
>connecting...)?
boy, and i thought i had a technical mind ! who knows ? just enjoy
it....if the goddess wants to play who am i to argue ? and when she's
had enough move on up....the only limit on energy is the speed of light
according to Einstein, so if he's right, then, well, inner/outer
orgasms....ultiamtely not that crucial, although i personally found i
needed the simplicity and energy of sexual sublimation to clear brain of
samsaric fog and clear karma too.
>4. What is your opinion on the whole matter? Please do not be brief, take your
>time, since this is a very important topic for me. I have been involved in
>sexual yoga for quite some time now...
how can i be brief ? well very simply actually - i do not have an
opinion on this, opinions were the source of a lot of my problems with
kundalini and sex, i just have an experience that i cannot ignore
because it has been exceptionally dramatic and powerful although I have
yet to blow up electrical appliances like some yogis on this list ! and
the opinion based on this experience is simply - lose your opinions and
you won't need to worry too much about the sex, it will take care of
itself if you are alert to your real needs rather than trying to impose
a pattern from without - read the article at krc and email me privately
if you have any questions as i think the rest of the list has moved on
from the question of celibacy.....but, dear readers, please correct me
if i'm wrong here.
>
>If anyone else have an opinion on the above matter, please share it!
>
>thanks,
>MMY
>
--
Tom Aston
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 1997 11:55:37 -1000 (HST)
From: DarkWay <DarkWayATnospamhotmail.com>
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Unusual energy sensations are frequently or continuously
experienced. These are often felt as tingling, vibrating, buzzing, prickling, stinging,
itching, burning or crawling sensations
I read this in a Danger section of the resource center
I have since this monday experienced all of that
I am not sure what to do
I meditated 4 hours last night trying to push energy from 1 place to another
Anyone out there have the same experience?Please help me understand whats what with this.
What should i do next?
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 1997 14:14:53 -0800 (PST)
From: M <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net>
To: HawwunATnospamaol.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Drunvalo on the Pole Shift.
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At 03:10 PM 4/3/97 -0500, HawwunATnospamaol.com wrote:
>
>just some more Millenia Apocolytpic HOGWASH.
It helped me to keep things in perspective when noting that only 1/3 of the
earth's population will be using the number 2000. Another 1/3 use different
numbering systems based on a different starting years - Chinese, Moslem,
Jewish, etc. Then there is yet another 1/3, called primitive 3rd world
types, who don't even number the years!
So, what's a planet to do? ;-}
M
Date: Thu, 03 Apr 1997 14:41:12 -0800
From: Peter Norton <pnortonATnospamatwc.teradyne.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: excerpt from Phaedrus
Message-ID: <33443208.7ED1ATnospamatwc.teradyne.com>
sorry for the long post, was just reading Plato's Phaedrus last night,
I thought I saw glimmers of K in Plato's
descriptions of the body's transformation as the soul regrows the
wings it shed on entering the body, (very reminiscent of Christian
Gnosticism):
(interesting that Plato emphasized he never wrote of the inmost
truth that can only be learned through long and close association
with a teacher. For him it was Socrates, and for Socrates it was
a woman, (Diotima?) about whom no record survives.)
>>>quoting from online Phaedrus: gopher://gopher.vt.edu:10010/02/131/15
For, as has been already
said, every soul of man has in the way of nature beheld true being;
this was the condition of her passing into the form of man. But all
souls do not easily recall the things of the other world; they may
have seen them for a short time only, or they may have been
unfortunate in their earthly lot, and, having had their hearts
turned to unrighteousness through some corrupting influence, they
may have lost the memory of the holy things which once they saw. Few
only retain an adequate remembrance of them; and they, when they
behold here any image of that other world, are rapt in amazement;
but they are ignorant of what this rapture means, because they do
not clearly perceive. For there is no light of justice or temperance
or any of the higher ideas which are precious to souls in the
earthly copies of them: they are seen through a glass dimly; and there
are few who, going to the images, behold in them the realities, and
these only with difficulty. There was a time when with the rest of the
happy band they saw beauty shining in brightness-we philosophers
following in the train of Zeus, others in company with other gods; and
then we beheld the beatific vision and were initiated into a mystery
which may be truly called most blessed, celebrated by us in our
state of innocence, before we had any experience of evils to come,
when we were admitted to the sight of apparitions innocent and
simple and calm and happy, which we beheld shining impure light,
pure ourselves and not yet enshrined in that living tomb which we
carry about, now that we are imprisoned in the body, like an oyster in
his shell. Let me linger over the memory of scenes which have passed
away.
But of beauty, I repeat again that we saw her there shining in
company with the celestial forms; and coming to earth we find her here
too, shining in clearness through the clearest aperture of sense.
For sight is the most piercing of our bodily senses; though not by
that is wisdom seen; her loveliness would have been transporting if
there had been a visible image of her, and the other ideas, if they
had visible counterparts, would be equally lovely. But this is the
privilege of beauty, that being the loveliest she is also the most
palpable to sight. Now he who is not newly initiated or who has become
corrupted, does not easily rise out of this world to the sight of true
beauty in the other; he looks only at her earthly namesake, and
instead of being awed at the sight of her, he is given over to
pleasure, and like a brutish beast he rushes on to enjoy and beget; he
consorts with wantonness, and is not afraid or ashamed of pursuing
pleasure in violation of nature. But he whose initiation is recent,
and who has been the spectator of many glories in the other world,
is amazed when he sees any one having a godlike face or form, which is
the expression of divine beauty; and at first a shudder runs through
him, and again the old awe steals over him; then looking upon the face
of his beloved as of a god he reverences him, and if he were not
afraid of being thought a downright madman, he would sacrifice to
his beloved as to the image of a god; then while he gazes on him there
>>>>>
>>>>>
is a sort of reaction, and the shudder passes into an unusual heat and
perspiration; for, as he receives the effluence of beauty through
the eyes, the wing moistens and he warms. And as he warms, the parts
out of which the wing grew, and which had been hitherto closed and
rigid, and had prevented the wing from shooting forth, are melted, and
as nourishment streams upon him, the lower end of the wings begins
to swell and grow from the root upwards; and the growth extends
under the whole soul-for once the whole was winged.
During this process the whole soul is all in a state of ebullition
and effervescence,-which may be compared to the irritation and
uneasiness in the gums at the time of cutting teeth,-bubbles up, and
has a feeling of uneasiness and tickling; but when in like manner
the soul is beginning to grow wings, the beauty of the beloved meets
her eye and she receives the sensible warm motion of particles which
flow towards her, therefore called emotion (imeros), and is
refreshed and warmed by them, and then she ceases from her pain with
joy. But when she is parted from her beloved and her moisture fails,
then the orifices of the passage out of which the wing shoots dry up
and close, and intercept the germ of the wing; which, being shut up
with the emotion, throbbing as with the pulsations of an artery,
pricks the aperture which is nearest, until at length the entire
soul is pierced and maddened and pained, and at the recollection of
beauty is again delighted. And from both of them together the soul
is oppressed at the strangeness of her condition, and is in a great
strait and excitement, and in her madness can neither sleep by night
nor abide in her place by day. And wherever she thinks that she will
behold the beautiful one, thither in her desire she runs. And when she
has seen him, and bathed herself in the waters of beauty, her
constraint is loosened, and she is refreshed, and has no more pangs
and pains; and this is the sweetest of all pleasures at the time,
and is the reason why the soul of the lover will never forsake his
beautiful one, whom he esteems above all; he has forgotten mother
and brethren and companions, and he thinks nothing of the neglect
and loss of his property; the rules and proprieties of life, on
which he formerly prided himself, he now despises, and is ready to
sleep like a servant, wherever he is allowed, as near as he can to his
desired one, who is the object of his worship, and the physician who
can alone assuage the greatness of his pain. And this state, my dear
imaginary youth to whom I am talking, is by men called love,
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 1997 00:44:15 +0200
From: Jason <zymphtATnospambluewin.ch>
To: "'K'" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: FW: Energies out of balance in relationship...
Message-ID: <01BC4091.5497C780ATnospamlss16pub104.bluewin.ch>
Cameron,
I lived with a woman who was quite depressed and emotionally irresponsible. I used to just accept her behavior and try live with it just as you say you do. I was not successful in keeping it together with her. I learned a lot about myself, my path and who I was in relationships with women. I don't know how you can be successful, but I can offer some words to avoid pitfalls.
<beginsnip: Cameron>
I have her do balancing meditations with me,
but she doesn't take the initiative to do these things without my urging
and it really has to be a daily thing to be fully effective. When she gets
down, she *really* gets down.
<endsnip>
Pitfall: If she does not take initiative in something there is no point in forcing it. Perhaps she does not want to do balancing meditations. She may be perfectly "happy" throwing tantrums. If she is down, she has every right to be down. Just as you have every right to live UP. BUT, if she has unconsious expectations of some reaction or response from you to her tantrums and depression and you don't provide the right responses, a very explosive tension will build. This tension will eventually have to be released. In my situation, the tension release was not pleasant and ultimately led to the demise of the relationship. I did not see it coming because I was just accepting everything and living with it. But it was there and it exploded. For tension release I recommend laughter. Try tickling. Try being absurd and goofy. Try comedy. Try anything that comes to mind. But laugh at life. Then deal with the intense emotional issues in the calm that follows the laughter. Then repeat.
<beginsnip: Cameron>
I don't want to do this to her!!
I have seen this happen in other relationships of mine and don't want
history to repeat itself.
<endsnip>
Pitfall: don't take responsibility for her emotional states. Those are hers. You are not doing it to her. The repeating is a clear message that you have something to learn in these types of relationships. Date: Thu, 03 Apr 1997 17:13:29 -0800
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
CC: jan.watsonATnospamsympatico.ca
Subject: 3 steps to heaven
Message-ID: <334455B9.70A2ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
Saw this on another forum
seems relevant . . .
A Simple Trinity
(Sat-Chit-Ananda)(Being-Consciousness-Bliss)
(Father-Son-Holy Ghost)(Brahma-Shiva-Vishnu)
Here are three deceptively simple ways to approach a fuller,
deeper understanding of the mystical core of our existence.
Among the many hints, tips, tricks and techniques that Joe and
Guin Miller (Theosophical Society, San Francisco) shared over
their many years in working with the young people who looked to
them: these three recurred in their discussions over and over
again. Any of these three hints lead straight to the Goal if
employed earnestly and boldly in everyday life. Do them in the
1, 2, 3 order given here and we deal with dynamite!
1. "Just BE." Whatever circumstances you find yourself in,
whatever disappointment or adversity you encounter, just be
yourself, who you really are from the depth inside. Then, you
will discover that inspiration and strength come spontaneously.
Their source is the very Oneness. That, the Oneness, No-Thing,
is always waiting for us to open the inner doors and windows.
2. "Be still, be very still." Without resorting to exotic
meditation techniques or contortions of the mind. Just drop the
concepts that are running your life for one moment. Be still!
Let the Awareness you ARE in depth FEEL Itself for the space of
even a single breath. Feel the Limitlessness? Feel the Peace
that abides INSIDE?
3. "Take a gentle, in-drawn breath into the heart and feel
unselfish love flowing out." Try it when you've painted
yourself into a sad little corner emotionally or mentally.
Without taking courses in Pranayama or worrying about where or
what the Kundalini is, just gently breathe into your heart
cavity and let pure love radiate from you. Feel the
expansiveness, the magnetism? Feel the rush of pure Energy?
That's a big piece of the map home.
These are not empty platitudes or little puzzles for novices to
unravel: Each strikes directly to one of three Divine
principles at the core of human existence, Sat-Chit-Ananda or
Being-Consciousness-Bliss. To "Just BE!" is to relax directly
into the Beingness (Sat) which is the unbreakable, ineffable,
imperturbable core of all. "Being still" cultivates the
Attitude of Simple Awareness (Chit). Taking that "gentle,
in-drawn breath, radiating love" enlivens the Feeling Heart
(Ananda). (Does this sound like esoteric Christianity? Yes!)
"It can't be that simple," the mind insists. "What about me?"
the ego cries. "There has to be more to it than that," the
doubter says. "Can't build a big promotion around this, there's
no way to get a degree or put up a shingle," ambition
complains. Only a gambler would bet his life on three
platitudes. Only a donkey smuggler would exhort others to try
it also. Only a fool would continue on.
"Ignore the opinions of others.
Let the rumors of your foolishness spread
far and wide.
None of it matters in the least.
Busy yourself with the burning of all of the
furniture in the house of the mind.
When the job is finished, dynamite the
foundations and bulldoze the lot."
--Richard Power, Theosophical Society
"The way of love is not
a subtle argument.
The door there
is devastation.
Birds make great sky-circles
of their freedom.
How did they learn it?
They fall, and falling,
they're given wings."
--Jelaluddin Rumi, mystic and poet
If you realize that you are living from the Oneness, you are
letting the absolute, the Reality, live through you. In other
words, GOD SEND ME, I'M READY! Try it sometime. It'll scare the
hell out of you.
There is "a simple way" means to dispense with "rigorous
disciplines" and realize the Self. How? By quieting the mind
and opening the heart!
Most Kind Regards
Lobster
cc
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Date: Thu, 3 Apr 1997 15:19:29 -0800 (PST)
From: M <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net>
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At 11:55 AM 4/3/97 -1000, DarkWay wrote:
>Unusual energy sensations are frequently or continuously
>experienced. These are often felt as tingling, vibrating, buzzing,
prickling, stinging,
>itching, burning or crawling sensations
>
>I read this in a Danger section of the resource center
>I have since this monday experienced all of that
>I am not sure what to do
>I meditated 4 hours last night trying to push energy from 1 place to another
>Anyone out there have the same experience?Please help me understand whats
what with this.
>What should i do next?
>
Warm salt baths are good here. Eat more heavily than usual. Or, some
recommend: Shake, rattle and roll - with or without music to help release
the energy.
M
>
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 1997 15:35:50 -1000 (HST)
From: Lemuel Charles Burnett <lcburnetATnospamPeabody.jhu.edu>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
Message-Id: <199704040135.PAA08079ATnospamhaleakala.aloha.net>
Hi!
I am very greatful for my experience. I am a profesional musician, and
also a student at the Peabody conservatory of music. I was going
through a very uncreative time, almost a year, where I just wasn't
able to think of anything new. I have been recording professional
albums since I was eight years old, but now I just didn't have
that creative energy that I had when I was a young, nieve kid!
Then one day at college I noticed a sign from another student saying
that she wanted to form a Kundalini Yoga group to practice and
meditate. I thought that was wonderful because I have A deep dedication
to meditation because of my wicca religion(not to affend any other
religion, I hold every persons ideas and beliefs in high asteem!)
anyway, Just a few weeks after I started the meetings, I noticed this
incredible rush of song idea; so many that I couldn't write them down
fast enough. The best part is, I started having VERY intense and
wonderful dreams again. I haven't drempt like this since I was a
little Kid! I even started noticing that I eat differently. I have
always been a steak kind of guy, but now I have cravings for vegitables
and fruits. So, if anyone has book susgestions or any other ideas
to help my journey, please write!
with happiness, Charlie
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 1997 20:53:36 -0500 (EST)
From: DChern1123ATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Question for Tom Aston - a yogi writes in answer....
Message-ID: <970403205223_513174246ATnospamemout16.mail.aol.com>
I'm very interested in this question of celebacy.I'm pretty disorganized, so
what I'm doing is trying to bash my way into the kingdom of "heaven".I've
read the Mantak Chia book and do the techniques I find there, but it's very
trickey.Let me explain.It seems that if you have ANY notion of enjoying sex
for sensory pleasure ,you fail to go where you want.If you are able to come
from(pardon the expression) an innocent(er) or experamental place it goes
much better.Energy is higher and meditation doesn't suffer yet it seems that
something is still missing.Maybe more training, maybe as Yogi Tom suggests
taking stock of who you are and honestly and consciously uniting the
opposites here .But what are the issues here ?Confusion.
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