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kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #126


kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 126

Today's Topics:
  Astrology Windows for K-Activity/Awakening
  Caucasian Yoga
  Astrology & K
  Re: Astrology & K
  test Delete
  Unidentified subject!
  Connecting to your Higher Self by Drunvalo
  Re: Astrology Windows for K-Activity/Awakening
  Unidentified subject!
  t'ai chi
  t'ai chi
  Unidentified subject!
  Re: Unidentified subject! - nan's friend...
  Is OBE being stopped by K or something else?
  Re: Need some help- to Tyrone
  Re: God save us, cult suicides
  Re: God save us, cult suicides
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 21:58:49 -0500 (EST)
From: TeeegeeeATnospamaol.com
To: stampmanATnospamix.netcom.com
cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Astrology Windows for K-Activity/Awakening
Message-ID: <970326215847_773319237ATnospamemout04.mail.aol.com>

Hey Dan....

WOW.... lots happening in that chart of yours! It's no wonder you're K is
having a great time.

The major window I see for awakening of your Kundalini began approximately 3
years ago - it was a 3 year aspect, and peaked approximately 1-1/2 years ago.
 At some point during those 3 years, your K would be activated. This aspect
only occurs once every 360 years, so you can see that it won't always happen
in everyones lifetime. I had the exact same aspect in my chart when my K
was awakened. This aspect (Progressed Sun conjunct your Natal Venus) would
bring to you a great love, a true soul union, either in the way of a
spontaneous K-rising or a physical relationship, or both.

That particular aspect passed a couple of months ago, so now to other things
going on in your chart..... You have so many windows going on now in your
chart for K, it's no wonder you are going through what you are!

Right now in your chart, your Progressed Moon has been conjunct your Natal
Jupiter for the last month. It is a very positive transit and gives you
great feelings of love and the desire to give. This only occurs every 29.5
years. This is a 3-month aspect & began approximately a month ago. All of
your feelings & emotions would be benefited wonderfully from this aspect.
 This is a K window for bringing about great feelings of love and oneness. I
haven't done enough research to know if this would activate a first-time
K-awakening. But for one who is already awakened, yep, it would bring some
great things to the forefront once again.

Approximately 2-1/2 months ago, your Progressed Moon was conjunct your
Progressed Sun (another once every 29.5 years) - It was a 3-month transit
(estimating Dec./Jan./Feb.). Your unconscious would be brought forth to your
consciousness with this transit. This window would open your K to activity,
once again to one that has been awakened, or to one that has been disiplined
for awhile in trying to open their K.

Now, some more good news! In approximately 1-1/2 years, another window is
opening! (Bless your wife's/honey's heart)... Your Progressed Sun will be
conjunct your Natal Jupiter (again, only occurs every 360 years!). This will
be a 3-year (!) aspect. And a fantastic one - a grand window for your K. I
really cannot say what will occur, but whatever it is, it will be wonderful!
 I would love to have this in my lifetime.

And one more thing is going on in your regular chart -- Transiting Neptune
(up in the sky now) is conjunct your Natal Jupiter - it is a 2-year transit
and began the beginning of Feb. 1997 and will run through Jan. 1999. WOW -
this only occurs every 167 years. As Robert Hand states it so well in his
"Planets in Transit" book:
************
******************
NEPTUNE CONJUNCT JUPITER
'This is one of the most idealistic times in your life. This transit arouses
your natural sympathies for others & makes you want to help them. You may
help some person close to you who needs assistance, or you may work with sick
and disadvantaged persons in an institutional setting or with charities that
aid such people.

This transit may also motivate you to work in some other way to actualize
your ideals. Now is not enough to simply believe in something, you want to
make your beliefs come true as well. But you may tend to believe that what
you want to be true is true, even when it isn't. DO NOT GET CARRIED AWAY BY
YOUR IDEALISM.

Under this transit, you may also begin to take an interest in philosophy &
religion. You are very concerned now about how you fit into the universal
order, & you are more inclined to deal with abstract issues & how they relate
to your life. In fact, you may not want to bother with the everyday aspects
of life, feeling that they are beneath your concern. Needless to say, that
attitude can get you into trouble. Nevertheless, if you can keep track of
life's daily requirements, you will also be able to gain insights into your
life that will make it much more meaningful.

There is another side to this transit also. It can give you a foolist
confidence that anything you will do will work out all right. As a result,
you may take risks & gambles or actually indulge in gambling. This is not an
especially lucky or unlucky transit. All it does is make you confuse your
wishes with reality and make you act according to your wishes. It is not a
good time to make long-term investments, because you are seeing the world
thru rose-colored glasses and are unwilling to look at business affairs in
the cold, hard manner that is required. In fact, you can easily be swindled
by anyone who appeals to your innermost wishes & desires.

Use this transit to gain insights into your life, but do not try to advance
your material interests, for you are not likely to be successful.
************
******************
Dan, with all of these transits combined - Whoa! What a wonderful time you
must be having getting to know the other side. I wrote the above transit out
in detail, as this is occuring right now and for the next couple of years -
Robert Hand is the best with his advice he gives during these transits.

Would you send me your approximate dates (from-to) of K-awakening and
K-activity for my research? I sure would appreciate it.

Enjoy the ride, and stay in the moment the best you can!

Lotsa Love to you,
xxxtg
"Madness takes its toll. Please have exact change."
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 03:50:43 GMT
From: tyrone.waltonATnospamhhbbs.com (Tyrone Walton)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Caucasian Yoga
Message-Id: <859434643ATnospamhhbbs.com>

Does anyone know of any writing on Caucasian Yoga? Or have read the
book: A System of Caucasian Yoga? By Count Stephan Colonna. Looking for
sources and references for this system of yoga.

Or are any list members from the Caucasus, Elburz, or Paropamisus
mountain ranges? And does anyone know the mantras for the hand centers.
Thanks.
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 23:11:10 -0500 (EST)
From: TeeegeeeATnospamaol.com
To: invitroATnospamihug.co.nz
cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Astrology & K
Message-ID: <970326231108_1151629232ATnospamemout02.mail.aol.com>

Peter,

Let me ask you a couple of questions first.... Since I was unable to find any
astrology books on Windows for K-Awakenings or Activity, I've made up my own
research from my experiences and others. Would love to have more people for
my research, so I am more than glad to help you and any K-List members out
with a chart!

. Have you had a Kundalini Awakening yet?

. Any mystical experiences?

Being this is my own research, I have found several windows for a K-Awakening
and K-Activity after awakening. Should I not find any in your chart for now,
in the past, or in the next several years, please know that that does not
mean this will not occur for you. I am sure there are many many windows of
opportunity that I have yet to find! That's what this research is all about
- to take this opportunity we see coming up, and discipline ourselves for it,
via yoga, meditation, spiritual studies, etc. etc.

Would also be interested in those that have already had mystical/yogi
experiences and K activity to look at your chart for my research. I would
need dates of your experiences, so that I can hopefully add more windows to
my research.

What I've found for a couple of the windows, if you are not on any kind of
spiritual pathway and are grounded here in this illusionary world, if one of
these aspects come up, it may be in the way of an accident (which also may
bring about a spontaneous K activity), or some form of separation in this
physical world (divorce, death, loss of job, etc.). BUT if you are on a
disciplined spiritual pathway, you are in for a wild K-ride. Each aspect
would be different, letting you know what kind of wild ride you will have -
whether it be a spiritual emergence type, bringing on psychosis, or a much
lesser, much sought-after, spiritual integration.

If we can be aware of these windows of opportunity, then we can hang on
tight, know what is occurring, and wait until the ride is over. With this
awareness, we can be prepared for what may come and be a way of quickening
the process. Not only with the process of integration, but the process of
knowing you are not crazy. I knew something was going to occur in my chart
when my K was activated, but I didn't know what. And was not prepared.
 Maybe we can help each other here.

Take Care,
xxxtg
"Consciousness..... that annoying time between naps"

 
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 21:07:33 -0800 (PST)
From: M <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net>
To: TeeegeeeATnospamaol.com, invitroATnospamihug.co.nz
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Astrology & K
Message-Id: <199703270507.VAA12028ATnospamgridsat.thegrid.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

#1 I LOVE your quotes! They crack me up in an AH AH way. Are they original
with you? If not, where?

#2 I was so impressed with the public (to the list) chart you did for Dan
that I am anxious to volunteer. You need birth date and date of K
awakening, right? Anything else? I did have a psychotic break in the early
70's I could guestimate the date of ...

RSVP

or not

M

At 11:11 PM 3/26/97 -0500, TeeegeeeATnospamaol.com wrote:
>Peter,
>
>Let me ask you a couple of questions first.... Since I was unable to find any
>astrology books on Windows for K-Awakenings or Activity, I've made up my own
>research from my experiences and others. Would love to have more people for
>my research, so I am more than glad to help you and any K-List members out
>with a chart!
>
>. Have you had a Kundalini Awakening yet?
>
>. Any mystical experiences?
>
>Being this is my own research, I have found several windows for a K-Awakening
>and K-Activity after awakening. Should I not find any in your chart for now,
>in the past, or in the next several years, please know that that does not
>mean this will not occur for you. I am sure there are many many windows of
>opportunity that I have yet to find! That's what this research is all about
>- to take this opportunity we see coming up, and discipline ourselves for it,
>via yoga, meditation, spiritual studies, etc. etc.
>
>Would also be interested in those that have already had mystical/yogi
>experiences and K activity to look at your chart for my research. I would
>need dates of your experiences, so that I can hopefully add more windows to
>my research.
>
>What I've found for a couple of the windows, if you are not on any kind of
>spiritual pathway and are grounded here in this illusionary world, if one of
>these aspects come up, it may be in the way of an accident (which also may
>bring about a spontaneous K activity), or some form of separation in this
>physical world (divorce, death, loss of job, etc.). BUT if you are on a
>disciplined spiritual pathway, you are in for a wild K-ride. Each aspect
>would be different, letting you know what kind of wild ride you will have -
>whether it be a spiritual emergence type, bringing on psychosis, or a much
>lesser, much sought-after, spiritual integration.
>
>If we can be aware of these windows of opportunity, then we can hang on
>tight, know what is occurring, and wait until the ride is over. With this
>awareness, we can be prepared for what may come and be a way of quickening
>the process. Not only with the process of integration, but the process of
>knowing you are not crazy. I knew something was going to occur in my chart
>when my K was activated, but I didn't know what. And was not prepared.
> Maybe we can help each other here.
>
>Take Care,
>xxxtg
>"Consciousness..... that annoying time between naps"
>
>
>
>
>
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 02:25:00 -0800 (PST)
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: test Delete
Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19960326032845.0c677bb6ATnospamdomin8rex.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

  Hello, I am a test...

Mystress Angelique Serpent,
  Dominant Experiential Facilitator.
Website= http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent
 *******************
Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils.
     -- Hector Louis Berlioz
Sure, it's going to kill a lot of people, but they may be dying of something
else anyway. -- Othal Brand, member of a Texas pesticide review board
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 Vancouver, B.C., Canada. Officially the most beautiful city in the world.
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 97 20:50:23 UT
From: "Pamela " <Pamela_eATnospammsn.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Unidentified subject!
Message-Id: <UPMAIL07.199703262115430161ATnospammsn.com>

Lobster said:
<snip>
Yourself!
Selfish or what?
<snip>

Lobster,
let me explain, I am not a professional healer or anything. I don't want to
take the chance and do something that could possibly harm someone else. I can
 however, experiment on myself !
 : o )
<snip>
your hands and body consider Tai Chi or Qi Ong

<snip>

Funny you should mention that. I was drawn to this book at the book store. It
was a book about Tai Chi. I have never been interested in it but I guess
"myself" is trying to tell me something eh? So I bought it and I am going to
try it out !

<snip>
All along True Lovers have met
Nowhere
they are seen by each other
<snip>

You're funny !

Pamela
.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:

"True lovers don't meet somewhere
 They are in each other all along."
    ---------- RUMI
 .:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:.
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 07:49:11 -0500 (EST)
From: voltronATnospamvoy.net (Jon Locke)
To: voltronATnospamvoy.net
Subject: Connecting to your Higher Self by Drunvalo
Message-Id: <v01530500af5fd46fda84ATnospam[206.155.203.217]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

CONNECTING TO YOUR HIGHER SELF.
THESE ARE NOTES FROM THE FLOWER OF LIFE WORKSHOP BY DRUNVALO MELCHIZEDEK
Before you should attempt to heal someone you should get permission from
both your Higher Self and their Higher Self. Don't force it on anybody.In
the beginning I would get about 50% yes on healing people. But the
percentage has become less and less. That's is because they want people to
heal themselves. There is no need to go ALL around healing people. More and
more people are able to heal themselves now.
Q. Do animals have a Higher Self?
D. Yes. Dolphins exist on many Higher levels.
Q. Should we project energy around the planet without getting permission?
D. I wouldn't. I wouldn't project energy anywhere without permission. I am
just telling you what I do. That's all I can do is tell you what I do.
Because basically we can't see down here what all is going on up there.
Basically, we're like a whole bunch of blind people down here. We don't
know what our energy is doing or what's happening.
Here is the image the Higher Self gave me to give to you. It's like you are
on a river rowing a boat. The river is your life, past present and future.
You can't see beyond the next bend. But the Higher Self is like someone
flying above and they can see where you are going. So you may be having fun
and a really good time in your boat, but the Higher Self for example may
see trouble around the next bend. So it says pull over. So if you follow
your Higher spirit you will immediately pull over and carry your boat past
the danger, even though it seems harder at the time.
Q. You told us if we continue to meditate we will meet our Higher Self.How
will we know when we meet our Higher Self?
D. Some people are very visual, which is a male, left brain trait. Others
are sound oriented, which is a female, right brain trait. Some people are
very psychic. We all have different gifts. There is no way I could tell you
exactly in which form you will meet your Higher Self.
Now I'm going to talk about the most important part of this entire
workshop. If you can make the connection with your Higher Self, you've just
won the game of life. Because after that you won't need any more teachers.
You may get more teachers because your Higher Self will tell you to go to
certain teachers, but you won't need anything outside of yourSelf. You'll
discover that God is within you and after that you don't need anything
else. And what I am about to tell you will take great courage and
tremendous discipline to do this. I'm going to give you a technique. It's
not the only technique. I'm sure there are a lot of other techniques. But
this is the one I was told and the one I did in order to make my connection
with Higher Self.
After you have got the merkaba meditation down so you have raised your
consciousness and breath to the Christ Consciousness sphere, you write down
a question you have for Higher Self. I can't tell you what to ask. that is
up to you. But for example I asked, "What is it I can do for the greater
good for me and the rest of the world. And at the same time would prove to
me we have made a connection. "
You are asking for a physical thing to go do. As a result of that action
you would get physical proof you made connection with your Higher Self.
Example: Suppose your Higher Self say to you, in one why or another, get in
your car drive to Oklahoma City, park on 34th street and stand there. They
are testing you too. They will never ask you to do anything morally wrong.
If you get a message to do something wrong, don't do it. Through it away -
it came from something else, not your Higher Self. But they might tell you
to do something hard to do.
Now suppose you go to O.K. City and stand on 34th street and someone comes
up to you and says, "Hello. We've been waiting for you. Come with me." And
they take you to this really wonderful, spiritual happening, then you know
you have connected with your Higher Self.
Another thing, if your Higher Self tells you to do something, don't go back
and ask for something else. Complete the first assignment. It may take some
time before you have confirmation, but wait. The test is to see if you will
give up some of your own life and ideas to follow Higher guidance.
Q. What if they ask you to physically harm someone?
D. They won't do that.
Q. What if they ask you to do something totally inconvient for you?
D. "Totally inconvenient" does not mean anything to your Higher Self. They
are you on a Higher level and they are telling you the wisest thing to do.
In fact if you don't do it you will have to come back later and face the
same situation. I have been doing this for 20 years and there is only one
time I refused to do what they told me and they said O.K. but you will go
through 10 years of pain and still end up in the same situation and have to
make the same decision. And the is exactly what happened.
Let me make this a little clearer now. You do the meditation and you go
into the Christ Consciousness sphere and you then relax and breath for at
least 15-30 minutes then you invoke the Higher Self. Say, would you please
come in. It's possible nothing will happen because you may not be ready.
Keep working and waiting. But if you will be open, it can come in any way
imaginable. In my case two angels came into my room. With another guy three
monks came in the room and started talking to him. The Higher Self has no
form, but it may take form to talk to you. Or it could come as a voice in
your head. Any voice, or your own voice. You may see colors flashing at
you. These color have meaning. You could all at once want to pick up a
pencil and start writing. That's a good one, THOTH says. It could be a deep
feeling of intuition of what it is. Who knows. But the one important thing
it is for you to do, the moment you get your message, say Thank You and and
come out of meditation as quickly as possible. One way to ground yourSelf
immediately is to touch the floor with your fingers spread. Then write down
the message on paper as fast as you can no matter what it sounds like. Sit
back and wait a minute. Then pick up the paper. The ego may not like
something in there and try to change it. So read it fast.
Keep doing this and practice it and you will develop the connection.
If you do this your life is going to change dramatically and very fast.
#end of session.
For more information you may contact theFlower of Life Home Page at
http://www.folr.org/

May Peace, Love, Beauty, Truth, Harmony and Trust Exist throughout the
Universe - Drunvalo
Jon Locke
The Philosopher's Stone
http://www.voy.net/~voltron
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 09:07:13 -0500
From: Dan Gahlinger <danATnospamvrx.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Astrology Windows for K-Activity/Awakening
Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970327090713.0086e100ATnospamvrx.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

At 09:58 PM 3/26/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Hey Dan....
>WOW.... lots happening in that chart of yours! It's no wonder you're K is
>having a great time.

um, which Dan are you referring to? <blink>
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 09:30:36 -0500 (EST)
From: voltronATnospamvoy.net (Jon Locke)
To: voltronATnospamvoy.net
Subject: Unidentified subject!
Message-Id: <v01530503af5fe83a80edATnospam[206.155.203.239]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

More on the Hale-Bopp Heaven's Gate suicide.
web page http://heavensgate.com/
is being bombarded with hits since it was announced on ABC television this
morning. So if you can't get in this is what it says.
They say their vehicles are only temporary (referring to their bodies).
They are angels who will live forever.
The comet Hale-Bopp is a space ship coming to get them.
A picture of their space leader is show on the page.
He looks like an alien (not grey) with a bald head, light skin wearing a
skin tight uniform. Named Ti.
They say Ti is how a member of the Kingdom of Heaven might appear.
They did not want to commit suicide but said they wanted to avoid what
happened in Ruby Ridge and Waco. "There could be attempts to incarcerate us
or subject us to physical torture."
They said Hale Bopp "is the marker we've been waiting for; the arrival of
the space craft that will take us home to their world."
Another web site of theirs is http://www.highersource.com
or http://www.highersource.viveca
viveca is a Hindu goddess. This was brought out on the ABC TV News broad cast.
If you can't get into their web site, you can go to http://www.cnn.com for
the full media coverage.

May Peace, Love, Beauty, Truth, Harmony and Trust Exist throughout the
Universe - Drunvalo
Jon Locke
The Philosopher's Stone
http://www.voy.net/~voltron
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 08:34:03 -0600
From: JimBATnospampitnet.net (Jim B)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: t'ai chi
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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 09:30:45 -0600
From: JimBATnospampitnet.net (Jim B)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: t'ai chi
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(sorry!)

>Funny you should mention that. I was drawn to this book at the book store. It
>was a book about Tai Chi. I have never been interested in it but I guess
>"myself" is trying to tell me something eh? So I bought it and I am going to
>try it out !

Hi Pamela!

If you're looking to get started in t'ai chi, you should know that there
are a very large amount of poor teachers out there, the easy majority--and
unfortunately it's difficult for beginners to tell the good from the
not-so-good. Let me know if you decide to embark on this path (a very
excellent one, imho--and from your descriptions, a very natural one for
you), and if you like I can help you locate a teacher in your area that can
give you something real. I'll give a hint: good teachers give
"shaktipat." :^) I would also be more than happy to suggest useful
books--again unfortunately, not-so-good teachers tend to write not-so-good
books!

Sincerely,

Jim
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 18:25:36 +0100
From: marivoATnospamworldnet.fr
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Unidentified subject!
Message-Id: <199703271725.SAA19838ATnospamcentaure.worldnet.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Hi All,

Due to circumstances
of genuine sentience
what should be here is elsewhere
trying to return
luckly Easter as a time of Death
and reamergence is here
So Easter SUN SHINE
to you all

Most Kind Easter Regards
Lobster

Posted by Porcupine
new cyber friend of Lobster
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 12:38:11 -0500 (EST)
From: HawwunATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Unidentified subject! - nan's friend...
Message-ID: <970327123811_-1504413998ATnospamemout15.mail.aol.com>

oh this reminds me... i was telling my friend lynn about my wonderful
lists...

we met, highly recommendd to each other not either of us knowing why, but the
general manager of our company just knew we would hit it off.. we're both
artists and designers and work in the design dept...

it seems that although i am a staid stable native of nashville, and she is
from all over, we have pretty much arrived at the same point in our spiritual
pathwork! we both realize this is no coincidence, our meeting... we also
arrived to the same point via different studies... it is interesting to note
this in particular.... i always say 'all paths lead to the center.'

one of our funnier coincidental commonalities is that we were both measured
as genuis iqs when we were kids, but couldn't learn how to tell time, or
couldn't do math, and were considered dumb... her path goals were involving
excellence while my path goals were focused on peace and happiness... and
here we are at the same place...

she is an awesomely talented person, and she is destined for great things...
she said to tell my list friends she says hi! hehehe...
luv, nan
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 12:45:44 -0500 (EST)
From: LwMema3ATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Is OBE being stopped by K or something else?
Message-ID: <970327124543_-1068861180ATnospamemout09.mail.aol.com>

Beloved K friends,
Recently I have been experiencing something new at night when I lay down to
fall asleep. It always feels like the beginning of an out of body expience,
the lightness, the lifting, the tilting sensations of 'being on a rollar
coaster' - these are all the things I have felt just before I have ever had
an OBE in the past... but this is different. I still have those sensations,
but that is where it ends. I have never tired to have and OBE- they have
always been spontaneous, and in the past I have just gone with it and seen
whatever I needed to learn and go where my guides led. But now when these
happen nightly and I relax and intend for it to happen if that is the best
thing for me at the time, it just stops. As if there is a point where I am
being stopped from going any further. I do not know if this has anything to
do with my K rising or if there is something more at 'work' here keeping me
from leaving my body or not. It is not upsetting to me but it does leave me
with a sense of.... disappointment (I guess) because I know how great the
expereince of an OBE can be. I do not know what to make of it or if it is
really nothing. I would love any advice or thoughts from anyone. Any
thoughts would be welcome. If you are more comfortable talking about it in
private feel free to email me directly. Thanks so much!
Light, Love and Healing energy to you all,
Lori
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 13:19:21 -0500 (EST)
From: LwMema3ATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Need some help- to Tyrone
Message-ID: <970327131921_-1906226652ATnospamemout08.mail.aol.com>

Dear Tyrone,
In a message dated 97-03-26 10:37:04 EST, you write:

<< You can also do energy scans with your hands. Try this on plants or
 trees. While you are doing this be sure to observe the plant carefully.
 What I mean is to concentrate on the form of the plant. While laying
 hands on it. If your hands move let them. Let me know what happens if
 you try this. As I'd like to hear another person opinion on this.
  >>
I know you were not asking for my opinion on this but it is something that I
have done and still do. I have a greenhouse and many plant (which will be
soon going outside again for the wonderful warm weather approachinhg). I did
an experiment ofsorts with this energy technique on a plumeria plant. It has
a fork at the top after it bloomed a year ago and the two sides were growing
in exact evenness with each other. I focused the overwhelming energy in my
hands with love nad healing onto one of these sides. In two days I could see
a change, it was growing faster and producing twice as many leaves as the
other side. Now, I can not say that it was caused my me, for sure, as I make
no such claims, but I do feel that I may habe had a positive impact. Once I
had seen that I can help raise the energy and strength of my plants I spread
the energy between them all when it is too much, it is better than just
'being wasted' or overloading the electrical circuits of something...
Anyway, I just thought you might be interested in some of my experiences.
Light and Love,
Lori
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 97 13:47:13 EST
From: chelseaATnospamsuperaje.com (Dominic & Maureen Marando)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: God save us, cult suicides
Message-Id: <9703271847.AA03205ATnospamsuperaje.com>
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Mistress Angelique wrote:
"All this futile desperation waiting for mass landings to rescue us...
Ascension at any price- no."
Well said Mistress, we are all here for a purpose and must remember to keep
our feet firmly planted on the ground while gazing into the heavens.
Waiting for Anyone else or anything else..........don't go there!
Blessing to everyone at Easter.
a lighthearted Canadian traveller who has heard much about this cult misery
in my country.
Mo
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 13:50:42 -0500 (EST)
From: VidentATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: God save us, cult suicides
Message-ID: <970327135041_382789442ATnospamemout17.mail.aol.com>

In a message dated 97-03-27 13:48:34 EST, you write:

<< we are all here for a purpose >>
They thought that was their purpose. Let us not judge, but only wish them
and their families peace.

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