1997/03/24 11:46
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #117
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 117
Today's Topics:
Re: ego death, purification and kundalini driven emergence
Re: Moon trip/mailing list
why are we here...
need advice on healing subject
Re: need advice on healing subject
Re: Moon trip/mailing list
Cobra Breath
Re: Face of Duality
Re: Cobra Breath
Re: Face of Duality: List Mystress Ref Call.
Re: mistress ref
Re: Don't run with scissors
Re: Holographic Dan-G effect on K list--Thanks
Re: Moon trip/mailing list
Re: Cobra Breath
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 22:22:34 -0600 (CST)
From: Nothing Is <holi0007ATnospamitlabs.umn.edu>
To: Tom Aston <yogi.tomATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: ego death, purification and kundalini driven emergence
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Yes!!!! *THIS* is what I needed!!! =)
bye, nothing is
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 03:29:48 +0000
From: Tom Aston <yogi.tomATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, DChern1123ATnospamaol.com
Subject: Re: Moon trip/mailing list
Message-ID: <pImHcUAsUfNzEwojATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
In message <970323100115_1218127542ATnospamemout10.mail.aol.com>,
DChern1123ATnospamaol.com writes
>yeah, I'm interested in the transmutation of sex energy into spiritual energy
>. I've read Mantak Chia's books. I'm wondering if hindu practices are
>different than this Taoist alchemy .Are there any herbs you use.? Thanks
>
never heard of Mantak Chia - which country is he/she from ? would you
recommend a particular title as an introduction to his/her views on
sexuality. I started with Hindu Tantra and then moved into taoist
techniques as seemed purer and more wholesome and less occult, then
ended up in world of Nyingma of Tibetan Buddhism...needed all the help i
could get as had very powerful sexual desire and strong animal aspects
to karma....even turned to Allah through Sufism and God through New
Testament !!!! well, it worked...am at peace now, and sexuality feeding
spirit nicely, the joy of celibacy....
best wishes yogi Tom
--
Tom Aston
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 00:37:14 -0800
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Subject: why are we here...
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Why are we here...
because there is no refuge from ourselves.
Until we confront ourselves,
in the eyes and hearts of others
we are running...
Until we share our secrets with them,
we have no refuge from them.
We can know neither ourselves nor anyone else.
We will be alone.
Where else but in our common ground,
can we find such a mirror?
Here we can at least appear clearly to ourselves.
Not as the giant of our dreams.
Nor as the dwarf of our fears.
But as a person, part of a whole.
With a share in is't purpose.
In this ground we can each take root and grow.
Not alone anymore as in death,
but fully alive in the midst of the world!
author...unknown
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 22:12:13 -0800
From: Morgana Wyze <morganaATnospambest.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: need advice on healing subject
Message-ID: <33361B3D.42F6ATnospambest.com>
I'm wondering if any of you can shed some light on this one;
I'm a healer, and often treat terminal cancer. A woman came to me with
tumorous breast cancer which had spread to the lungs; her doctors told
her that her condition was terminal and untreatable.
She came to me and my every instinct said that she will survive this
illness. There are some really puzzling pieces to her illness:
1. Chronic emotional pain in childhood and young adulthood. Abusive
situations at home and at work
2. The doctors cannot "type" her cancer; diagnosis is incomplete
3. The cancer began only after she happily married
4. She had meditated for six years and received shaktipat just before
the cancer manifested
5. I found an energy pattern in her lungs which I associate with
polio virus and eliminated it
6. Immeditely after this, her doctors told her that her lung cancer
must be a mis-diagnosis, just spots, but breast cancer remained
7. 2 weeks later she is hot and dry, her energy is huge and burning
in the second chakra accompanied by a darmatic increase in cancer cells
in her body and tumor formation has increased
8. every tumor is on a chakra point, noticably the 3rd heart point
(divine connection) and the crown ring of the head
9. she experiences chills and burning with movement at the base of
her spine
10. her condition is worsening- I have never seen this, cancer has
always been fairly easy to heal in my experience
11. kinesthesiology reveals that she subconsciouly believes she will
survive her illness
I believe this is kundalini, in the four sessions we've had she's
released enormous pain and anger energies. I didn't suspect kundalini
rising until our most recent (4th) session, when the serpent pattern was
very evident, but it wants to rise out of the throat, not the crown.
She has the most distictive K- energy I've ever seen- just like a hooded
cobra in the energy image. Since kundalini is itself benign, this may
be a manifestation of resistance. I'm open to any guesses, ideas,
suggestions.
Morgana
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 07:59:45 +0000
From: Tom Aston <yogi.tomATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, morganaATnospambest.com
Subject: Re: need advice on healing subject
Message-ID: <VHKwrWAxRjNzEwOzATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
In message <33361B3D.42F6ATnospambest.com>, Morgana Wyze <morganaATnospambest.com>
writes
>I'm wondering if any of you can shed some light on this one;
>
>I'm a healer, and often treat terminal cancer. A woman came to me with
>tumorous breast cancer which had spread to the lungs; her doctors told
>her that her condition was terminal and untreatable.
> She came to me and my every instinct said that she will survive this
>illness. There are some really puzzling pieces to her illness:
> 1. Chronic emotional pain in childhood and young adulthood. Abusive
>situations at home and at work
> 2. The doctors cannot "type" her cancer; diagnosis is incomplete
> 3. The cancer began only after she happily married
> 4. She had meditated for six years and received shaktipat just before
>the cancer manifested
> 5. I found an energy pattern in her lungs which I associate with
>polio virus and eliminated it
> 6. Immeditely after this, her doctors told her that her lung cancer
>must be a mis-diagnosis, just spots, but breast cancer remained
> 7. 2 weeks later she is hot and dry, her energy is huge and burning
>in the second chakra accompanied by a darmatic increase in cancer cells
>in her body and tumor formation has increased
> 8. every tumor is on a chakra point, noticably the 3rd heart point
>(divine connection) and the crown ring of the head
> 9. she experiences chills and burning with movement at the base of
>her spine
> 10. her condition is worsening- I have never seen this, cancer has
>always been fairly easy to heal in my experience
> 11. kinesthesiology reveals that she subconsciouly believes she will
>survive her illness
>
>I believe this is kundalini, in the four sessions we've had she's
>released enormous pain and anger energies. I didn't suspect kundalini
>rising until our most recent (4th) session, when the serpent pattern was
>very evident, but it wants to rise out of the throat, not the crown.
>She has the most distictive K- energy I've ever seen- just like a hooded
>cobra in the energy image. Since kundalini is itself benign, this may
>be a manifestation of resistance. I'm open to any guesses, ideas,
>suggestions.
>Morgana
>
Hi Morgana,
have done some healing myself based on vertebrae, chakras and meridians,
but nothing as ambitious as this....i'd be out of my depth with this
kind of disease, too deepseated and complex for my simple view of
life....have you suggested that she take control of this situation and
take the meditation deeper and perhaps combine it with martial arts
or/and yoga and general purification techniques through diet, water etc
- surely this will do much more than any amount of intervention by
yourself no matter how well intended it is...or maybe you could just top
up her own management of her situation ? i gave up trying to heal when i
realised i was taking on some really bad karma and achieving very little
in terms of making tangible impact on deepseated conditions...would be
interested how you avoid picking up bad energy and poisons - i was
regarding it as meditation, so no question of ego getting
involved...just out of my depth spiritually speaking. have you read what
Swami Radha says about healing in Kundalini Yoga for the West ? - raises
some of these issues.
Regards Yogi Tom
--
Tom Aston
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 08:32:25 -0500 (EST)
From: DChern1123ATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Moon trip/mailing list
Message-ID: <970324083224_181047110ATnospamemout04.mail.aol.com>
Hi, Tom.I wish I knew how to download that large post earlier today.
Mantak Chia is from Thailand I think.He and his wife run seminars on the
Taoist alchemy of sexual transmutation of energy.He's got a center in
Huntington N.Y. U.S.A. and several books one of which I read titled ,Taoist
Secrets of Love, Aurora Press, P.O. Box 573 Santa Fe, N.M. (87504). ISBN.
0-943358-19-1.That last long number I believe is how book stores (in this
country) can quickly look it up.What I like about his work is how he has
opened up this taboo subject for the west.Nobody was talking about the
practical techniques for using sex (instead of it using you) and circulating
it within our body for spiritual and health reasons.As a result I'm much more
aware of the importance of not wasting the sperm and the energy flows .He
prepares us for both the Bramacharia experience or a yogini .The point it
seems, is that selfless love means using the best part of yourself to grow in
consciousness instead of worshiping an orgasm .Still wrestling , Denis
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 08:51:59 -0500
From: Dennis Nord <norddenATnospamhsd.utc.com>
To: Kundalini Posting <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Cobra Breath
Message-id: <333686FF.41C6ATnospamhsd.utc.com>
Does anyone have any experience, information, knowledge of Cobra Breath?
I just picked up a copy of "Jewel In the Lotus" because it seemed to
have some specific info on kundalini. During a quick skim at Borders, I
failed to notice that it said the key to activating K is learning Cobra
Breath. The catch is the info is not in the book! You have to spend
$120 for a correspondance course to learn the technique. Is this a
rip-off, or is the info really sacred and secret?
Dennis Nord
Unawakened (as yet) seeker
norddenATnospamhsd.utc.com
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 09:52:10 -0500
From: Dan Gahlinger <danATnospamvrx.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Face of Duality
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>>I was inexplicably dropped off the list just as Dan made his glorious
>>return and am thankful for Angelique for keeping me up to date (without
>>my even asking). Dan, if you are still in a state of ecstasy after we
>>have welcomed you back to Bethlehem, that speaks monuments to your
>>condition.
>>>
>>While I am happy for your achievements Dan, please understand that when
>>I read a signature file such as: I am one of the few enlightened ones.
>>I hear a strong unspoken statement, "and you are not". Chevy Chase and
>>SNL are ringing in my ears. You may want to reconsider your approach,
>>if you really want to help others achieve your state. Then, of course,
>>you won't be "one of the few". But you can always join the Marines.
that is the whole point, isn't it Joe? to bring others along on this little
joyride. I'm not going to spoil it by telling anyone what it's like,
besides, you'd either not understand or it's scare the ATnospam#^& out of you. It
would have me, if anyone had told me. eesh. It was more than I could handle
at the time, but I got over it.
So if there is one thing I can pass on as advice, it is these two things,
one: once you have been awakened, there is no getting that genie back in
the bottle. And two: once these processes start, usually your inner self
takes over and you no longer have any control over it, whether you want it
to stop or not, you have no choice. It is best to just let yourself go
along with it.
Check the new sig. :)
Dan, one of the enlightened. Not "I" but "We".
We Are One- in peace, love, and light.
There Are Always Possibilities...
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 10:09:05 -0500 (EST)
From: Nancy Kar <nkarATnospamfreenet.npiec.on.ca>
To: Dennis Nord <norddenATnospamhsd.utc.com>
cc: Kundalini Posting <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Cobra Breath
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Hello Dennis,
On Mon, 24 Mar 1997, Dennis Nord wrote:
> Does anyone have any experience, information, knowledge of Cobra Breath?
Wow! This is great... yes yes:) *Ahem* sorry ..regaining composure :)
My Tibetan teacher that I reguard so highly, Jaya, was extensively trained
by Sunyata Saraswati.. the author of the Jewel in the Lotus. I started out
learning healing techniques from her then recently attended a Tantra
workshop. What I have found is that she has been teaching us Tantra
techniques all along, breath, movement. The difference being that when we
awaken energy for healing we bring it out through the heart chakra.
With Tantra we bring it up the body through the chakras and can achieve
the Cobra breath.
The information on Cobra breath has been very sacred and secret
(because of persecution in the past) but I
think the time has come for the knowledge to be shared with those who can
use it in their development. Jaya shares it freely...
I achieved the Cobra breath on the second day of the workshop. (I thought
that my head was going to explode:) It was a very overpowering feeling at
first. From what I understand, so far... I'm relatively new at this. While
your head feels so large and full of energy.. the energy is moving around
in your brain and healing, co-responding chakras that reside there.
The course is probably very good... although I have never been exposed to
it. He also has a set of videos... that I have and these are a must in my
opinion. I wonder if you could get them? I bought mine from Jaya.
anyway...
let me know what you think
I'd like tohear how you are doing
WatrFall
>
> I just picked up a copy of "Jewel In the Lotus" because it seemed to
> have some specific info on kundalini. During a quick skim at Borders, I
> failed to notice that it said the key to activating K is learning Cobra
> Breath. The catch is the info is not in the book! You have to spend
> $120 for a correspondance course to learn the technique. Is this a
> rip-off, or is the info really sacred and secret?
>
> Dennis Nord
> Unawakened (as yet) seeker
> norddenATnospamhsd.utc.com
>
* " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " *
Looking through Lightworking eyes,
Living through a Loveworking heart.
'Keep your face to the sunshine and you will not see the shadows' -H. Keller
In lak'ech Nancy...WaterFall in spirit nkarATnospamfreenet.npiec.on.ca
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 10:51:00 -0500
From: Dan Gahlinger <danATnospamvrx.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Face of Duality: List Mystress Ref Call.
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> Watching the
>>numbers of expressions of dismay posted to the list on this topic continue
>>to increase
Angelique, first you start off with a negative judgement and statement.
Second this quote from your message above. I have seen 3 negative messages,
and gotten at least 9 postive responses. Does this matter? Not really.
I was not aware that someone died and put you in charge of the list <shrug>
but that's ok. You're good at discipline (grin). It's actually VERY easy to
unsub someone else from the list. But I'd rather not say because then we'll
just have little twits doing it to us constantly. But that's not important
either.
To everyone who has a problem with my sig: get over yourselves! I consider
it a blatant showing of ego. But perhaps some will also consider it ego on
my part to push the issue. So let's see if I or we can think of some
compromise.
I am willing to alter my sig, to some extent. Suggestions are welcome.
Check out the new one below. There are some considerations: I know that I
am awakened now, and enlightened, and in constant connection with "the
collective". Some of you may not be able to accept this. But then you
accept kundalini, and you execpt other things, you also accept the word of
"bible thumpers" (nothing personal). So why is one persons beliefs (or
knowledge) any less or greater valued, valuable, or valid than anyone elses?
Well anyhow, being enlightened means being open to compromise. I am still
integrating like crazy, getting hit by massive amounts of energy, and
vibrational shifts. So I am still somewhat in a state of flux.
The whole point to this sig is to let people know I've gone through this
stuff, I'm used to it now, and whatever else the universe throws my way. So
they will know one place they can ask more "advanced" questions or seek
guidance and without judgement. Which is, I was made to understand, what
this list is all about. Some day, hopefully, everyone will be where I have
been, and beyond, that is, after all, the whole point to this stuff. To
awaken and enlighten everyone. By the indications I've seen on the list,
this need from people is only growing. I am here simply to offer guidance
if so asked.
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 10:59:33 -0500
From: Dan Gahlinger <danATnospamvrx.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: mistress ref
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Angelique, I forgot, silly me, here's the new sig. Yes, it's open for
modification.
Dan, one of the enlightened. Not "I" but "We".
We Are One- in peace, love, and light.
There Are Always Possibilities...
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 09:26:14
From: Ed Johnson <orangeATnospamislandnet.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Don't run with scissors
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At 01:22 23/03/97 -0800, Morgana Wyze wrote:
If my energy rushes
>toward a person or situation, I give everything I'm able with an open
>and glad heart. If my energy doesn't move I turn away from even the most
>pathetic need, I'm not the rescuer who needs them or they me.
> I don't know if even this is "right", but it saves me from staying up
>nights thinking of homeless children.
>Morgana
>
>
>
Or as Gautama Buddha said
( or as anyone equally unimportant could have said )
"To give five minutes
to the realization of true divine love
is greater than
to pass a thousand bowls of food to the needy
because,
in giving forth love,
you help every soul
in the universe."
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 12:58:57 -0500
From: Dan Gahlinger <danATnospamvrx.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Holographic Dan-G effect on K list--Thanks
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At 06:29 PM 3/23/97 -0800, you wrote:
>Dan, even though I don't know you at all and you have been quiet since I
>came back (it looks like he was bumped off about the time I got back
>on), I greatly appreciate your coming. Your startling presence has
>cast a light onto our list in a way that resembles a holograph. The
>density and texture of my fellow list members has been greatly enhanced.
yes, its always interesting sensing the energy attached to these messages.
"file attach, white energy..." :) I wonder if it gets MIME encoded? :)
thanks for the support, I'm absolutely brimming with white energy right
now, positively glowing. I've been sending off bits of it to people just
because I've been feeling a bit overloaded (understatement).
Well I had my kundalini start last may, and 1.5 weeks ago had my awakening,
sat. night I went into (through?) sunyata (with some much needed help and
guidance, I'm not sure if you wish me to post your name, but you know who
you are and i wish to thank you), and last night went through a black hole.
All in all, I think that's enough for a while. I need a vacation, though it
seems the universe has other plans for me for a while. Can I go home now?
<snicker>
Dan, one of the enlightened. Not "I" but "We".
We Are One- in peace, love, and light.
There Are Always Possibilities...
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 19:01:41 +0100 (MET)
From: Akasha <thauglaATnospamonline.no>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Moon trip/mailing list
Message-Id: <199703241801.TAA14378ATnospamonline.no>
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At 13:51 22.03.97 -0800, you wrote:
> ** Please do not post, private mail**
>
>
>Akasha:
>
>You have mentioned light work, well... I must be dense, but I certainly
>would like to know your definition of light work, light workers. I have had
>the experience of the atomic blast when K first became active, the light was
>so intense, now it appears every now and then. I do send love and light to
>others, in need or not!
Sadly my K experiences are all dull. My K are not like the "orgasmic" state
described by most people. I am wondering if your K awakening(your words) has
affected your sexual life; if it's easier to live in celibacy(if intended),
if you are not so easily sexually aroused anymore, if you feel more as a
whole et cetera. What I am thinking about here is how related/vital a K
awakening is to the control of sexual impulse, i.e with sublimation.
>I suppose since the energy of K was a spontanious awakening, I must admit,
>there are things along the way that I have missed. Hey, what do I know, it
>took five years to find out what K was, and that there was such a thing. See
>what I mean?
What were your symptoms? No offence, but lots of K "side-effects" sounds
like repressed sexual impulses straining the nervous system and thereby
unbalancing the individual. I am not implying that all K exp. are sexual
repression, but I reckon that there is a close connection.
>I certainly have read many metaphysical books over the years, in fact, I am
>re-reading Barbara Hand Clow's Pleiadian Agenda. The first time through, I
>missed a lot, but when I go through it a second time, I pick up all the
>little things I glossed over the first time around.
I've heard a little about her. She proclaims the apocalypse for those not
awakened and so on. What I read this critic about her: "The predicted future
must be seen as a possibility, not a doom. Clairvoyants/prophets often
dramatise their predictions as to wake up people." Her book sounds like a
conspiracy theory, what were the details you missed?
>Private Email is great, telepathy, well... that happens sometimes, not often
>enough to get messages through. I would welcome any and all insights that
>you may be able to provide, or (I doubt) that I may share with you. You will
>most likely do the sharing.
The telepathy was a joke ;) Anyway, we on the list should consider regular
meeting hours to meet on some Irc#channel or (my recommandation) at the
"spiritual chat", because for those without the IRC program can go there
from their browser. Go to Yahoo search tool page and under one of the main
topics it says RELIGION. Press it and then go to NEW-AGE. In alphabetical
order you'll find spiritual chat.
>I have had OOBEs, which many people would raise an eyegrow, if I were to
>relate one in particular. I have felt the spirits near me at times, and have
>many events that have happened that I can't explain, because there is no
>need to do so.
Exactly, I so totally agree. What you feel in your heart there is no need to
broad on. Why should everything be rationalized to "death" as many
scientists do. I enjoy it every time physics realize that it is their
expectations that influences their quark and atom research.
As there are different bodies(physical,mental,astral,buddhic,causal,atmic)
there are different kinds of OOBEs(out-of-body). What I am saying is that
with my thought only I can be miles away from my body and without
recommending; imagine what happens when your on drugs! Sounds like yours
have been from the astral plane, that is probably such a kick! Nevertheless,
what did you do while being OOBE? I heard of this guy suddenly becoming
astral; he didn't realize and thought he was going to the bathroom until he
realized that he was hanging midair and that an ethereic piss maybe wasn't
such a good idea afterall. :D
>I have never praticed meditations, however once I used the sounds
>a,e,i,o,u,om... visualizing the chakras that correspond the that particular
>sound, and upon the ommmmm, I saw a mandala. Stupid me, so happy to see it,
>opened my eyes and it left... ah well.
A friend of mine smokes weed and tries to visualize the hexagram. He says
its "out of this world", though in my opinion drugs and self development is
uncomparable.
>I have activated energy in the hands, great for tossing headaches aside,
>move energy around, stuff like that, easy things. Sometimes I send the
>healing energy from the hands back into the earth for healing... not sure if
>I am doing it right.
Global healing, YES! that is what I mean about lightwork. Mankind has raped
mother-earth for thousands of years, I say we owe her big-time. On the
subject of global healing is also that of using the leylines as a tool with
medition/energyfocusing. Imagine a global healing circle fully taking
advantage of the earths own energy system and flowing with it. We could
raise the consciousness of man dramatically. Keep dreaming I hear my soul
whisper.
>At the present time I do clinical hynotherapy. I find it is a great way for
>people to release past life traumas that are brought into this lifetime. I
>guess I must have sent out that signal, because almost all of the clients
>with whom I work want pastlife regression therapy.
I tried a primitive form of past-life regression today(the one where you
walk down stairs and get to a hall with doors)
In one door I had to fight a monster. another there was just a blue, blue
sea and the third there was a wounded Indian. I kinda healed him and then it
all zoomed aout and I felt flows of energy all over my system, it was great!
Since you seem an expert on this, do you have other techniques that works
even better? Whether or not what you experience is your past life or just
your subconscious symbolically-self isn't the main purpose to free the
emotional energy fastened to the life/experience? I don't really see the use
of past life therapy as a superficial guided tour.
This is symptomatic with a lot of the new-age movement; the lack of facing
the emotional aspect of self-study. I don't really see how one can develop
without facing ones feelings and dealing with the pain, that includes both
past and present life.
>Anyway that's a brief outline, so if you wish, we could communicate,
>anything you can teach me would be most welcomed, If however, I am too far
>behind you in all of this, I will understand. I have an open mind and
>assimulate every thing, that which I believe or 'feel' that is right, I
>keep, the other stuff, I bless and send it on its way.
>love 'n light dor
I love your statement "open mind", so many choose to call this naive, but
the ability to see good, or good aspects in everything, I choose to call a
gift. After all "the meek shall inherit the earth".
As for your statement on personal development("If I am too far behind you")
I just cannot see how anyone can be higher developed than others. I prefer
to see it as different developed, for better or worse. Anyway, in my opinion
the fact that someone is supposed to be better, higher developed(stand
above) the others as the teachers role makes someone stand above others. The
ideal would be study circles where one changes between opening oneself up
and support others. The traditional method of teaching should be replaced by
active listening where the teachers role is less dominating. Just my 00.2
cents on teaching.
With love and (((light)))
Akasha
thauglaATnospamonline.no
"Spiritual development needs a balance between ecstacy and pain."
-Klaus Gorm
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 16:27:14 +0000
From: Tom Aston <yogi.tomATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, Dennis Nord <norddenATnospamhsd.utc.com>
Subject: Re: Cobra Breath
Message-ID: <t+OulHAitqNzEwaoATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
In message <333686FF.41C6ATnospamhsd.utc.com>, Dennis Nord
<norddenATnospamhsd.utc.com> writes
>Does anyone have any experience, information, knowledge of Cobra Breath?
>
>I just picked up a copy of "Jewel In the Lotus" because it seemed to
>have some specific info on kundalini. During a quick skim at Borders, I
>failed to notice that it said the key to activating K is learning Cobra
>Breath. The catch is the info is not in the book! You have to spend
>$120 for a correspondance course to learn the technique. Is this a
>rip-off, or is the info really sacred and secret?
>
>Dennis Nord
>Unawakened (as yet) seeker
>norddenATnospamhsd.utc.com
>
The cobra posture of hatha yoga involves placing the hands under the
shoulders while lying on belly and raising head upwards with spine which
bends back like a snake raising itself in aggressive pose. Intense
feeling of subtle energy in spine, can even stimulate awakening of
kundalini, so go gently if you try this. Keep breathing naturally while
in cobra....if they are doing something with the breath in this posture
I hope they know what they're about as this really is playing with fire.
The simplest thing to do if you're sure you want kundalini, is to find a
shaktipat guru.
Hope this helps Yogi Tom
--
Tom Aston
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