1997/03/23 09:02
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #113
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 113
Today's Topics:
Drugs etc
Re: Drugs etc
greetings
[Fwd: Re: neck noises]
Re: Don't run with scissors
inpsirational...
Ordinary people
Don't run - walk
Re: Moon trip/mailing list
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 17:15:00 -0800
From: Peter W Spear <invitroATnospamihug.co.nz>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Drugs etc
Message-ID: <3335D594.2AAEATnospamihug.co.nz>
I dont say very much but every now and then things are said here that
are disturbing. We talk about love being the most omportant thing on our
paths to enlightenment but some of the people that seem to be most
enlightened seem to lack some of the principles that should be embodied
in the all encompassing word love.
I the course of our lives ofet we condemn people for what they do while
condoning the sane things ourselves. We say that we would not associate
with rapists, murderers, thieves, child molesters, etc. but I wonder how
often we entertain them in our oun homes in the form of entertainment we
choose.
TV insidiously brings these people into our homes and we are entertained
by them, we watch these people then say to friends "did you see so and
so, wasnt it a great show, i really enjoyed it" Wow, enjoying murders,
rapes, child molestation.
Is this really displaying the love we say we have.
If we have love for our fellow man would we endanger them by our habits,
be they smoking or other.
If there is a God do we respect him by our actions and the way we act.
If there is a God and we are made in his image as far as intellect and
wisdom and emotions are concerned, are we really reflecting that person?
Not comdemning any one but just wondering where we are all coming from.
Peter S. New Zealand
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 22:04:09 -0800
From: Joe Patrick Flarity <joeATnospamflarity.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Drugs etc
Message-Id: <3334C7D9.40E9ATnospamflarity.com>
Peter W Spear wrote:
>
> snip
> I the course of our lives ofet we condemn people for what they do while
> condoning the sane things ourselves. We say that we would not associate
> with rapists, murderers, thieves, child molesters, etc.
>snip
Dear Peter,
I have always wanted to visit New Zealand. I hear that it is very
beautiful. Our ski team goes there to practice in the winter. Several
of my friends who have traveled extensively (sailboats) tell me to
vacation in Australia instead. They said the attitude of the Kiwi's is
legendary. That is something like a condemnation isn't it? If I were
to accept their view of your countrymen, I might never visit New
Zealand.
Every shut door makes for a smaller, darker abode.
I choose to open doors, look at every possibility with an open mind, and
accept the reality that I find. The world is a dangerous place that
ultimately causes our death. The world is a wonderful place where
opportunities for further development abound. Both are true
statements. There are an infinite number of truths waiting for our
discovery.
See in this world what you will
and love the result (or hate it).
choosing to love,
Joe
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 02:13:36 -0500 (EST)
From: Nancy Kar <nkarATnospamfreenet.npiec.on.ca>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: greetings
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I would just like to introduce myself to all of you. I have been following
the great messages and conversations here for a week or so now. I have
been finding great harmony and balance in them... there's something
special about you k people :)
I've traveled a long road so far, it seems, but I know that many have had
harder things to deal with. I started on my path at 17 whith a
detour through an abusive marriage.
But having been knocked down as far as I could go,
there was only one way to travel to get out of the hole. Since leaving the
marriage I've been on the spiritual fast track. It's like I needed to
catch up and so I've done more for my spiritual development in 3 years
than I have in my entire lifetime.
My Kundalini started moving or I became aware of it over a year ago. It
seems to be very intense for a time and then it levels off for awhile.
Then back it goes again... usually teaching me more with every activation.
I was also very blessed to find a guide who has shown me how important it
is to be grounded and in the body...
but how you can also be in tune with spirit and have your head in the
clouds:)
at the same time. Her background is in Tibetan healing and teachings. I
have learned the healing art of Seichim from her and recently attended one
of her Tantra weekends. Talk about getting things moving... I've never
felt so open. With the teachings in Tantra I feel that I have
come full circle. From my head in the heavens with channeling and Reiki..
down to earth with Seichim and now I can reach both states at the same
time. In this I feel the best. :)
I'm a bit of a lurker (one of those quiet ones :)
but just wanted to say hello and tell you a bit about who I am.
namaste all,
Nancy
WatrFall in spirit
* " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " * " *
Looking through Lightworking eyes,
Living through a Loveworking heart.
'Keep your face to the sunshine and you will not see the shadows' -H. Keller
In lak'ech Nancy...WaterFall in spirit nkarATnospamfreenet.npiec.on.ca
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 00:44:53 -0800
From: Morgana Wyze <morganaATnospambest.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: [Fwd: Re: neck noises]
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Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 00:43:10 -0800
From: Morgana Wyze <morganaATnospambest.com>
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To: Nothing Is <holi0007ATnospamitlabs.umn.edu>
Subject: Re: neck noises
References: <Pine.SGI.3.95.970322023326.2930A-100000ATnospamvulture.itlabs.umn.edu>
Nothing Is wrote:
>
> Does this mean that this chakra is closed and the sound is from it
> opening slighly? What kind of purification would suit this?
>
> thanks, nothing is
>
No more "closed" than it is for most people. The flow of K requires
unusual clarity in this chakra. The chakra must be "burned" until it
"blisses out" , just a couple of hours focused work if there's not a lot
of material, but sometimes several weeks or months are needed to clear
it.
THe sound is your perception of the blockage.
To burn a chakra, create a white star, burning with the brilliance of a
sun, in the center of the chakra. This star consumes all impurities.
Burn until the chakra is completely clear, then keep burning until the
chakra spins wide open- you can't miss that moment, it's unmistakable.
Morgana
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 01:22:45 -0800
From: Morgana Wyze <morganaATnospambest.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Don't run with scissors
Message-ID: <3334F665.5737ATnospambest.com>
Ed Johnson wrote:
>
> At 10:53 22/03/97 -0500, you wrote:
> >In a message dated 97-03-22 08:38:01 EST, you write:
> >
> ><<
> > Lotsa love, don't run with scissors
> > Aaron :)
> > >>
> >YES, Aaron thank you. Finally advice I can actually follow effortlessly.
I shall do the
> >Don't Run on the inhale and With Scissors on the exhale. Not only will it
> >supercede my old and unfathomable mantra but it will be my battle cry, my
> >interior freedom. No more flagellating myself for not dedicating my life to
> >the care of lepers.
Very funny, Susan, thank for the laugh. You, too, beat yourself up for
not aiding lepers? Perhaps, not resting until every homeless person is
happy and has a TV? I go back and forth on that one.
If I can get serious here,
I've been shown many lessons that enabling a person with "poverty
consciousness" denies them their process and perpetuates their inner
belief of themselves as a victim who can't stand on their own. They
profess gratitude and yet act out with anger.
And yet every one of us has a time in our life when we need to be
"rescued", and another when we need to be a rescuer.
I've come to believe that the heart would take on any burden, not
counting the cost. The mind is an accountant, always measuring out every
erg of energy received or given. Neither is right by themselves. These
days I wait for my energy to respond (or not to). If my energy rushes
toward a person or situation, I give everything I'm able with an open
and glad heart. If my energy doesn't move I turn away from even the most
pathetic need, I'm not the rescuer who needs them or they me.
I don't know if even this is "right", but it saves me from staying up
nights thinking of homeless children.
Morgana
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 04:59:56 -0800
From: S C Stoner <kcstonerATnospammbcomp.com>
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Subject: inpsirational...
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something to share...
...I AM ME...
In all the world, there is no one else exactly like me. everything that
comes out of me is authentically mine because i alone chose it...
I own everything about me. my body, my feelings, my mouth, my voice, all
of my actions, wether they be to myself or to others...
I own my fantasies, my dreams, my hopes, my fears...
I own all my triumphs and successes, all my failures and mistakes.
because i own all of me, i can become intamiately aquainted with me...
By so doing i can love me and be friendly with me in all my parts...
I know there are aspects about myself that puzzle me, and other aspects
that i do not know...
But as long as i am friendly and loving to myself, i can courageously and
hopefully look for solutions to the puzzles and for ways to find out more
about me...
however i look and sound, whatever i say and do, and whatever i think and
feel at a given moment in time is authenticaaly me...
If later some parts of how i looked, sounded, thought and felt turn out
to be unfitting, i can discard that which is unfitting, keep the rest,
and invent something new for that which i discarded...
I can see, hear, feel, think, say, and do. i have the tools to survive,
to be close to others, to be productive, and to make sense and order out
of the world of people and things outside of me...
I own me, and therefore i can engineer me...
I am me...and...
I AM OKAY!
by...VIRGINIA SATIR
lovingly sent to all...
Steven
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 09:50:26 -0800
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
CC: jan.watsonATnospamsympatico.ca
Subject: Ordinary people
Message-ID: <33356D62.1F6EATnospamdial.pipex.com>
Joe Patrick Flarity wrote:
Peter W Spear wrote:
> > In the course of our lives often we condemn people for what they do while
> > condoning the sane things ourselves. We say that we would not associate
> > with rapists, murderers, thieves, child molesters, etc.
I spend my life amongst these monsters
just as I spend my life amongst Saints
and ordinary people
In my heart I aspire to leave
the Monsters and stay with the Saints
and then realise the Saints sit in the circle of monsters
and ordinary people
and then I treat the monsters as if they are Saints
and the Saints as if they are Monsters
and they all become
ordinary people
> Every shut door makes for a smaller, darker abode.
>
> I choose to open doors, look at every possibility with an open mind, and
> accept the reality that I find. The world is a dangerous place that
> ultimately causes our death. The world is a wonderful place where
> opportunities for further development abound. Both are true
> statements. There are an infinite number of truths waiting for our
> discovery.
>
> See in this world what you will
>
> and love the result (or hate it).
>
> choosing to love,
also choosing Love
Lobster
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 10:33:45 -0800
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: morganaATnospambest.com
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Don't run - walk
Message-ID: <33357789.62A2ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
Morgana Wyze wrote:
> If I can get serious here,
well . . .
Oh all right then . . .
> I've been shown many lessons that enabling a person with "poverty
> consciousness" denies them their process and perpetuates their inner
> belief of themselves as a victim who can't stand on their own. They
> profess gratitude and yet act out with anger.
True
but we should not use such knowledge
but become more generous
by taking from those that have not
and giving to those that have
First we must attain to this understanding
(and to an appreciation of those words)
if you can not give with an open heart
then keep that "gift"
it is sour . . .
Give what you want to
not what you think you should
we can keep that "gift" for our greedy little self
> And yet every one of us has a time in our life when we need to be
> "rescued", and another when we need to be a rescuer.
> I've come to believe that the heart would take on any burden, not
> counting the cost. The mind is an accountant, always measuring out every
> erg of energy received or given. Neither is right by themselves. These
> days I wait for my energy to respond (or not to). If my energy rushes
> toward a person or situation, I give everything I'm able with an open
> and glad heart. If my energy doesn't move I turn away from even the most
> pathetic need, I'm not the rescuer who needs them or they me.
Correct.
(marks out of 10 - 10)
Follow your heart not your head.
constantly bleating "I should have . . . " will destroy you
there is nothing you should do
it is being taken care of . . .
> I don't know if even this is "right", but it saves me from staying up
> nights thinking of homeless children.
those who stay up at night
contemplating the suffering of others
adds more suffering
and is gratyfying
(How I feel for them
- if only I could help!)
Wake up in the morning
and do what you are able . . .
(every little action helps
every thought is useless)
Most Kind Regards
(snatching food from the hungry
- for their own good, you understand)
greedy little Lobster
PS.
How can he laugh at such things as hunger?
Oh I know - let's sit and weep - that'll solve it!
The Poor will always be with us
In Heaven many Angels are in pain and anguish
because they are not allowed near the Divine presence . . .
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 10:01:16 -0500 (EST)
From: DChern1123ATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Moon trip/mailing list
Message-ID: <970323100115_1218127542ATnospamemout10.mail.aol.com>
yeah, I'm interested in the transmutation of sex energy into spiritual energy
. I've read Mantak Chia's books. I'm wondering if hindu practices are
different than this Taoist alchemy .Are there any herbs you use.? Thanks
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