1997/03/20 07:23
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #105
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 105
Today's Topics:
Re: Return From Afar
Re: leylines in cyberspace ?
Love
Re: Return From Afar - the amazing flying ego
Re: lazy mans...a buddhist writes.......
Re: Return From Afar
Funny story
Re: lazy mans...a buddhist writes.......
Re: music
Re: lazy mans...a buddhist writes.......
grand launch of silver dawn media - world exclusive
Re: lazy mans...a buddhist writes.......
Re: Return From Afar - the amazing flying ego
Re: leylines in cyberspace ?
Re: Return From Afar
Re: Return From Afar - the amazing flying ego
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 13:28:00 -0500
From: Dolce Vita <lissetteATnospambridge.net>
To: Dan Gahlinger <danATnospamvrx.net>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Return From Afar
Message-ID: <33303030.1853ATnospambridge.net>
>
> I had my kundalini last may, almost a year ago now, and a lot of things
> have happened since then. It seems like several lifetimes ago actually. My
> chakras have all opened, sometimes at the same time. I have recently become
> what you might call "enlightened", although I have not fully integrated
> this new awakening and awareness as yet, it's only been a week. As near as
> I can tell, I am now one with the collective, perhaps 4th or 5th density, I
> don't really know yet, and it doesn't really matter. Through my awakening,
> I was given to understand there are only about 8 of us at that level, "in
> the meadow" as my Shamanist friend likes to call it. So I am also partially
> seeking the others I have connected with, although as they keep reminding
> me, that doesnt really matter either. Curiousity is never lacking in me
> though.
>
> I am also looking for other lists which might be at a much higher level.
> Perhaps it's wrong, but I always thought of this list as being for
> beginners. I was on monroe list many years ago, but that one doesn't seem
> right either. The only other list I've stumbled across is The Nexus, which
> is brand new, so there's nothing there yet, and it's a bit high-end for
> most tastes. There's only about 3 people on it as yet, that's how new it is.
>
> Through all I have learned it's time to try and give something back, to
> teach, and perhaps enlighten others. Having been through the process of
> what many of you are just starting out, or somewhat along, all I can say,
> is it can be a difficult journey, but a rewarding one at the same time.
>
> My personal vibrational level is high enough now that I no longer have to
> worry about the darkness, or other such outside influences, most people,
> even master healers can't even reach me any longer. it is a strange reality
> I am in, being both "myself" and "one" with the others at the same time.
>
> There is no ego allowed, and anger, after a time, becomes impossible, as
> with spite. All is love, and light. Many of my beliefs have vanished
> without a trace, in such a way, that I didn't even know they were gone, nor
> do I miss them, in fact, I can't even remember most of them any longer.
> There is a layer between this conciousness and the one I have reached,
> there are a few hundred people at the level. I was curious as to why they
> did not ascend at first, I found out, they are very frightened. I wish to
> also say, it is not possible to "pull" others up, it would just hurt them
> in the trying.
>
> Currently, I have unlimited energy, but I also end up sleeping 12-14 hours
> a night, and an incessent buzzing in my ears since I did this process.
>
> So if anyone has any info on some advanced, or other lists around, I'd
> appreciate hearing about them, and if anyone is further along and wants
> info on The Nexus list, I'll be happy to forward it in email. Otherwise,
> I'm here to pass on and teach whatever I can, in the meantime I'll just
> observe, and perhaps comment the odd time.
>
Dan, oh Dan.
The first thing, the elementary thing about being enlightened is not
to find yourself special, apart from the others, so high up there that
it is so hard to communicate with "us down here". a little love would
do good on that enlightened state of yours. There might be other
lists, but not with people so well intented and as great as us.... you
will miss us... or maybe we will find you someday up there.... in the
heavens above.
Happy floatings! You might say a little curse word just in case you
go you go floating beyond heaven...
Lissette
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 02:50:01 -0500 (EST)
From: LibraKat11ATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: leylines in cyberspace ?
Message-ID: <970320025000_180622729ATnospamemout12.mail.aol.com>
Dear Tom,
Remember --- Daemons (demons) are nothing more than energy, a furiously
moving form of it to be sure, but only a form of energy none the less. It's
highly likely that the person who chose that name for cyberspace meant only
that, and nothing more sinister. Think of the *Tasmanian Devil* of the
cartoon world, a whirl of indescribable energy whipping through space and
changing it.
Life is good!
Love,
Kat
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 23:50:10 -0800
From: Ken McFarland <kenmATnospamOREGON.UOREGON.EDU>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Love
Message-id: <1.5.4.32.19970320075010.006753ccATnospamoregon.uoregon.edu>
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Dear Lobster,
You wrote:
>Now let us forget you for a while
>and find things to Love unconditionally:
>Let us look at it like this for now (everything changes)
>if we are unworthy
>then things outside of us are worthy
>So what Ken do we Love?
>What makes you happy
>tell me, tell me . . .
>Can you tell me the positive things in yourself and your life.
>We really must leave the pasts and its regreats
>and move forward . . .
>
>Most Sincere Good Wishes
>Lobster
I enjoy the study of psychological processes.
My thesis in grad school was a new theory of the neurobehavioral systems
manifesting the experience of shame and related emotions.
I realize that I enjoy discussing these concepts because it is "my claim to
fame" a very egocentric motivation.
Still, when my stuff is the focus of a group the strokes feel good to my
narcissistic self.
The groups I have worked with over the past four years, are court mandated
offenders.
I enjoy working with these folks who seem to need even more help than I.
It is very rewarding when they change and grow.
Currently I am working wiht sex offenders.
This is a tough group.
For many of them, growth choices are hard to come by.
I must say I believe I feel more love for these "despicable pedophiles and
deviants" than the other therapists at the agency.
They are all wounded people themselves.
I want to get beyond external validation.
I want generalized unconditional love.
I want to be able to laugh.
I want to let go and experience joyful music.
I do enjoy the music on the Kabbalah Web site.
This morning I hugged a redwood tree.
This ancient species seemed the appropriate choice.
I told it "I love you" several times - an odd sort of uh - weird event.
Not much seemed to happen - felt a little silly - but not silly.
I will try it some more.
Lobster, what do you enjoy?
What makes you happy?
What do we love?
Sincerely,
Ken
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 03:22:13 -0500 (EST)
From: LibraKat11ATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
cc: danATnospamvrx.net
Subject: Re: Return From Afar - the amazing flying ego
Message-ID: <970320032212_-1739401323ATnospamemout19.mail.aol.com>
Dear Kundalites ( I love Lobster's word for us!),
About Dan, is it *ego* or possibly is it sheer, open ecstasy? Or is it
confidence in stating what's occuring in one's life? Isn't this the place
where we should be able to confide in others? In fact, I feel rather isolated
without this list and I'd like to know I can express myself without fear of
being judged for doing so.
Since I have no one else to talk (without expecting my ego to be fed or even
the hope of an understandable response), I would hope that I can freely do
that on the k-list without condemnation.
Life is an open door!
Love,
Kat
BTW, Dan's idea is also somewhat similarly expressed in The Tenth Insight by
James Redfield.
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 03:26:22 -0500 (EST)
From: LibraKat11ATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: lazy mans...a buddhist writes.......
Message-ID: <970320032621_687770903ATnospamemout02.mail.aol.com>
Dear Tom,
You should write even more......and publish!
Lovingly, of course!
Can I be the editor?
Love :)
Kat
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 03:37:01 -0500 (EST)
From: LibraKat11ATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Return From Afar
Message-ID: <970320033701_-738005095ATnospamemout15.mail.aol.com>
Dear Dan,
Feelings such as these are almost too intense to talk of. I'd advise ----
integrate, integrate, integrate! Learn from these profound esperiences
before you speak too much.
If you speak too soon, you know not what you speak of.
Love,
Kat
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 03:49:02 -0500 (EST)
From: LibraKat11ATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Funny story
Message-ID: <970320034901_280801439ATnospamemout01.mail.aol.com>
One night, I lay in bed sleeping,
I awoke because of the roar I heard in my head --
a huge rush of energy was coming.
Though familiar, it was still scary.
I opened my eyes to see a room full of orange and yellow light.
There was fear because I could not move, but also, amazement.
I saw a flaming *frisbee* that sailed close to my face.
I queried, "Who are you?"
Response, (in my mind, at least), "Sarah Fim".
In my mind, "Who? I don't know anyone with the last name Fim."
Response, "No, No! Sarah Fim!
I was very puzzled until they spelled it out --- "Seraphim!"
Upon realizing that it was one word,
not a name,
*flaming frisbees* (seraphim)
crashed into my body.
True story.
Love,
Kat
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 06:44:02 -0800
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
CC: jan.watsonATnospamsympatico.ca
Subject: Re: lazy mans...a buddhist writes.......
Message-ID: <33314D32.111ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
Hi Alantra,
> > Love is the force that binds all things together, it is definitly the middle
> >way, in my opinion.=)
> >
> >Alantra
Middle, Sides and Top
IS ALL
ALL IS
(a round of applause for Love
- especially you at the back there)
> As a Buddhist I find so many depths to the Middle Way...here are just a
> few:
<snip of exceellent middle way material - oh well - emptiness is form>
Buddhist eh?
It seems suffering is the greatest teacher.
Are Buddhists not willing to learn?
Why is Buddhism the only religion/mystical system without a God as prime
causation?
What are the limitations of Buddhism and how can they be overcome?
Can you explain this profound teaching (hard I know)
Emptiness is Form
Form is Emptiness
Most Kind Regards
Is and is not
Lobster
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 12:19:11 +0000
From: Tom Aston <yogi.tomATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, Nothing Is <holi0007ATnospamitlabs.umn.edu>
Subject: Re: music
Message-ID: <pWIvPSA$sSMzEwwvATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
In message <Pine.SGI.3.95.970320000204.16700A-100000ATnospamvulture.itlabs.umn.
edu>, Nothing Is <holi0007ATnospamitlabs.umn.edu> writes
>Just curious as to how kundalini or any yoga, etc. has affected peoples
>taste, interest and listening to music. Personally I've gotten more into
>world music. I've always been an avid jazz fan and that seems to go well
>with spiritual aspects since it deals with the NOW, which forces the
>musicians to be spontaneous and improvise. Now I can actually see jazz
>as an intricate, interwoven and dynamic language of multiple musicians.
>Jazz is actually a musical conversation between the players.....
>
>Looking at all the different forms of music in the world, they are each
>their own "language" that transcend the physical, with the exception of
>the instruments(they are "real" I think).
>
>Faves to listen to:
>1. Shakti with John McLaughlin "Shakti", "Handful of Beauty"
>2. John Coltrane "Ascension"
>3. Mahavishnu Orchestra "Inner Mounting Flame"
>4. Miles Davis "Kind of Blue", "Bitches Brew"
>5. David Parsons "Dorje Ling"
>6. Dead Can Dance all of them, especially "Spiritchaser"
>7. Temps Perdu? "Terra Incognita"
>8. Sun Ra
>9. any avant-garde jazz
>
>The answer is simple,
>Nothing Is!
>
>can be found at http://www.itlabs.umn.edu/~holi0007
>
Nearly all this music passed through "me" on the way of refining and
transcending attachment to earhole and sweet vibrations....you have good
taste...also got into Bach in big way - Glenn Gould, Goldberg
Variations, and brandenburg Concertos especially, purity, harmony, music
of the spheres. Also used didgeridoo music for lower chakras, great
vibrations....flamenco - Juan Martin, real edge to it and a bit of
fire...also Hendrix good sometimes on Walkman for intensity...and
Beethoven and Mozart for drama and vastness...and Stravinsky for primal
energy....and Brahms for emotional refinement..La Boheme opera for
romantic pathos...and Hare Krishna devotional music for pure ethereal
states....then moved onto language and listened to two interviews I had
with spiritual teachers - wow ! just soaked it up, the sheer beauty and
power of their language, when at the time had not noticed anything
unusual - note role of "listening" in Tantra, and symbol of conch - have
to hold to ear to discover the world within, spiral path of conch,
innate purity of buddha nature evoked by purest music....listen to the
teachings too...one moment of clear vision - auditory or intellectual or
emotional or psychic can wash away years of ignorance and bewilderment.
listen to the bell too, very important Tantric symbol in Tibet
especially. Singing bowls of Tibet.....which leads us to the best of
them all...MANTRA. mor of that later - Good listening, Yogi Tom
--
Tom Aston
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 12:28:40 +0000
From: Tom Aston <yogi.tomATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, LibraKat11ATnospamaol.com
Subject: Re: lazy mans...a buddhist writes.......
Message-ID: <ym5pTaA41SMzEwRkATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
In message <970320032621_687770903ATnospamemout02.mail.aol.com>,
LibraKat11ATnospamaol.com writes
>Dear Tom,
>
>You should write even more......and publish!
>
>Lovingly, of course!
>
>Can I be the editor?
>
>Love :)
>
>Kat
>
Dear Kat,
Thanks....have found my natural home here with kundalini enthusiasts.
Have tons of raw material but have been keeping wood dry in case of
demons strangling emergent yogi at birth before knew how to handle these
things. Simply waiting for world to draw me out of my shell and reveal
the jewels the guru gave Tom in moment of trust that defies belief in
retrospect....probability of meeting guru...raising shakti...surviving
traumatic ride...getting on net...meeting fellow yogis etc etc guess
there is a purpose and destiny to life after all. Began writing simply
because the literature was so sanitised except for Gopi Krishna which
went over the top in the other direction. Guess am treading Middle
Way...have to live it, cannot intellectualise these things....living the
truth with kundalini and Tantra and guru exacting process.....burn baby
burn watch that ego go up in flames...
Plenty more where all this has come from - - have sent article on
celibacy and shakti to Bill Peay at KRC, should appear soon if he
approves.
First article on kundalini, exciting stuff....building on rock for first
time in life. Great feeling trusting the universe to look after you.
Regards Yogi Tom
--
Tom Aston
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 12:45:36 +0000
From: Tom Aston <yogi.tomATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: grand launch of silver dawn media - world exclusive
Message-ID: <Enb0zCAwFTMzEwGEATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
EXCLUSIVE TO KUNDALINI LIST - WORLD EXCLUSIVE - YOGI TOM TAKES NET AND
MEDIA BY STORM.....MURDOCH, TURNER, GATES IN DISARRAY
dear fellow yogis,
just to let you know positive feedback on posts to this list has
convinced me new global media outfit operating from my front room needed
desperately by world ignorant of needs and nature of kundalini and
Tantra and profound help these could be to troubled times. Why silver
dawn ? had a dream a long time ago involving Tantric coat of a silver
dawn and wise old woman putting it on shoulders and expressing
incredulity that didn't want to know....well, the shakti has had its
way, I surrender, walking naked into the light I bow to the Buddha
within and without....and inbetween...Yogi Tom used to work for Reuters
covering world through TV news, would slip out of crazy newsroom and
meditate in broom cupboard when shakti running wild...quite funny in
retrospect, but at time very painful. Now can meditate in Tantric
newsroom - action and stillness, two-in-one, yin and yang make the
tao....oh yes, the joy of letting life flow through one's
fingers...where else would one rather be ? Just this, only now....
Regards and thanks for all the help and encouragement Yogi Tom
--
Tom Aston
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 12:05:58 +0000
From: Tom Aston <yogi.tomATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
Subject: Re: lazy mans...a buddhist writes.......
Message-ID: <iG+trPAmgSMzEwxEATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
In message <33314D32.111ATnospamdial.pipex.com>, E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
writes
>Hi Alantra,
>
>> > Love is the force that binds all things together, it is definitly the middle
>> >way, in my opinion.=)
>> >
>> >Alantra
>
>Middle, Sides and Top
>IS ALL
>ALL IS
>(a round of applause for Love
>- especially you at the back there)
>
>
>> As a Buddhist I find so many depths to the Middle Way...here are just a
>> few:
><snip of exceellent middle way material - oh well - emptiness is form>
>
>Buddhist eh?
>It seems suffering is the greatest teacher.
>Are Buddhists not willing to learn?
>Why is Buddhism the only religion/mystical system without a God as prime
>causation?
>What are the limitations of Buddhism and how can they be overcome?
>
>Can you explain this profound teaching (hard I know)
>Emptiness is Form
>Form is Emptiness
>
>Most Kind Regards
>Is and is not
>Lobster
>
er well, think you've got me there....guess best I can do is call it a
kind of deconstruction of experience, like peeling an onion skin by
skin....nothing there ultimately yet seemed so solid and permanent like
ego/ conditioned mind....many of us experience self-forgetfulness some
in life - lost in bliss of orgasm, in immensity of nature, beatuy or
vastness of music or art, spontaneous compassionate action when faced
with disaster or suffering, simply sitness ing the suffering of
another....and this is when we become empty and open to the seamless web
of cosmos..embracing all of life....am finding emptiness very hard to
handle at present as everyone seems to need "me" and my resources,
infinite mission to help, nurture, inform, liberate, play....very
reluctant yogi in some ways, terrible buddha as just want to withdraw
sometimes and take a time out and get head together....but energy has
other ideas methinks...back into the crucible of the heart we goes,
kicking and screaming all the way....oh well, any help in this ?
Regards Yogi Tom
--
Tom Aston
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 08:17:57 -0600
From: JimBATnospampitnet.net (Jim B)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Return From Afar - the amazing flying ego
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Hi Kat--
Condemnation is a very strong word. Each of us lives in our own bubble,
even as we try to expand it to emcompass the universe and beyond. As a
"support group" we owe it to each other to be honest and direct about what
we perceive in each other. If someone's bubble is swelling to the bursting
point, filled perhaps with an ill wind, that person should know how s/he
comes across. This is not a condemnation, but a gentle prod towards
re-evaluation. Granted, it can be very difficult to drop pretenses and
look at yourself with new open clarity! Please, be yourself, post with
confidence. All of us are here to help you and each other along--however,
this does seem to require the occasional "judgement." It's imporatant,
though, to be able to see past the words themselves, to the motivation
behind them!
;^) Jim
>Dear Kundalites ( I love Lobster's word for us!),
>
>About Dan, is it *ego* or possibly is it sheer, open ecstasy? Or is it
>confidence in stating what's occuring in one's life? Isn't this the place
>where we should be able to confide in others? In fact, I feel rather isolated
>without this list and I'd like to know I can express myself without fear of
>being judged for doing so.
>
>Since I have no one else to talk (without expecting my ego to be fed or even
>the hope of an understandable response), I would hope that I can freely do
>that on the k-list without condemnation.
>
>Life is an open door!
>
>Love,
>
> Kat
>
>BTW, Dan's idea is also somewhat similarly expressed in The Tenth Insight by
>James Redfield.
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 12:20:46 +0000
From: Tom Aston <yogi.tomATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, LibraKat11ATnospamaol.com
Subject: Re: leylines in cyberspace ?
Message-ID: <qGwvLUAeuSMzEww3ATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
In message <970320025000_180622729ATnospamemout12.mail.aol.com>,
LibraKat11ATnospamaol.com writes
>Dear Tom,
>
>Remember --- Daemons (demons) are nothing more than energy, a furiously
>moving form of it to be sure, but only a form of energy none the less. It's
>highly likely that the person who chose that name for cyberspace meant only
>that, and nothing more sinister. Think of the *Tasmanian Devil* of the
>cartoon world, a whirl of indescribable energy whipping through space and
>changing it.
>
>Life is good!
>
>Love,
>
>Kat
>
Thanks for that.....just that have actually got to know demons pretty
well at times, and not easily transformed I can tell you...long night of
the soul....guess that's why we need the Tantric guru....Yogi Tom
--
Tom Aston
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 09:24:37 -0500
From: Dan Gahlinger <danATnospamvrx.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Return From Afar
Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970320092436.00860100ATnospamvrx.net>
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At 05:02 PM 3/19/97 -0800, you wrote:
>Dear Dan,
>sorry for all my net gaffes, I really do say some stupid things
>sometimes. What I meant was, I think it is wonderful you are
>back, and I appreciate your sharing your experience, which
>certainly sounds wonderful, and profound, and genuine.
I wonder if this comment is sincere, but just in case it is, I thank you
for that. I suppose it might be considered negative that I can no longer
flame anyone. An alternative I am going to try is just sending twits some
white energy, like Tom for example, and he's supposed to be a yogi (wonders
never cease). We'll see how this works.
>I thought your parting post last October was also a sincere
>expression of genuine dismay at the superficiality with which
>people like me treat the spiritual quest most of the time, and
>so I reposted it because I liked it, and thought it had a message
>worth repeating.
yes, non-enlightened and uneducated people were really starting to grate on
my nerves. It's possible this might be related to my own impatience in some
small way. I have no ego, so unenlightened comments like Tom's don't really
bother me. He can say whatever he wants, as can the person he is conversing
with.
I think the rest of the people on the list will come to the same conclusion
I did, that there are genuinely enlightened people around, and to try and
mock them or hurt them or insult them gains no one anything, and only
serves to delay their true awakening more. Some people will likely never
break their world of illusion, it's difficult to accept change, it's
comfortable where you are, and fear can be a very powerful foe.
As many people, including Gangji have often said, all you need to do to
awaken is... NOTHING. yes, absolutely nothing. and don't even try to do
nothing, just do nothing. It's effortless, simple, and easy. The
integration afterwards on the other hand <smile>... I hope she doesn't mind
my borrowing that quote of hers, I'm sure she wont.
>Anyway, glad you're back!
>(now I will try and shut up for a change)
thanks, me too, glad I'm back, that is. and I'll try and stop rambling... :)
Dan, one of the few enlightened.
We Are One- in peace, love, and light.
There Are Always Possibilities...
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 09:22:50 -0800
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
CC: jan.watsonATnospamsympatico.ca
Subject: Re: Return From Afar - the amazing flying ego
Message-ID: <3331726A.BBBATnospamdial.pipex.com>
Hi Kat and all Chakra-Shakers,
> About Dan, is it *ego* or possibly is it sheer, open ecstasy?
Two quotes from Beyond Enlightenment:
"For those who think they are enlightened: Oh Dear! You really are most
mistaken. Nobody is interested in your supposed enlightenment. Please
keep it to yourself and do not burden others with your presumed
knowledge. Please most humbly go away and reconsider."
"People who think their realisation is better, higher or unique are
completely mistaken. Realisation is conscious travelling. In that is its
potential blessing. The very thought of being special is subtle egoism.
It is a limitation of progress and must be transformed into being less."
(C) A A Aziz
ARC - Beyond Enlightenment
http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/place/vv60/beyond.html
> Or is it
> confidence in stating what's occuring in one's life? Isn't this the place
> where we should be able to confide in others? In fact, I feel rather isolated
> without this list and I'd like to know I can express myself without fear of
> being judged for doing so.
My dear Kat,
We all take a risk by being here.
When we communicate we take a risk
we may be judged
we may be accepted
rejected
inflated
deflated
This a true story:
the greatest plumber in the world
was called out
She had diplomas in plumbology
She lectured to the Institute of Advanced Piping
"I think its just a washer needs replacing"
said the man who had called her out
"Sir!"
said the greatest plumber in the world,
"A plumber of my knowledge and calibre
does not change a mere washer!!!"
"WHAT????" said the man
. . . and as they began argueing the washer broke
the place was flooded
and they both drowned.
> Since I have no one else to talk (without expecting my ego to be fed or even
> the hope of an understandable response), I would hope that I can freely do
> that on the k-list without condemnation.
Dear Kat and Kundalites,
Again a quote from the Prophet by Kahlil Gibran:
"When love beckons to you, follow him
Though his ways are steep
And when his wings enfold you yield to him
Though the sword hidden among his pinions may wound you
And when he speaks to you believe in him,
Though his voice may shatter your dreams
as the north wind lays waste the garden.
For even as love crowns you so shall he crucify you
Even as he is for your growth so is he for your pruning.
Even as he ascends to your height
and carreses your tenderest branches that quiver in the sun,
So shall he descend to your roots
and shake them in their clininging to the earth.
Like sheaves of corn he gathers you unto himself.
He threshes you to make you naked
He sifts you to free you from your husks
He grinds you to whiteness.
He kneads you until pliant;
And then he assigns you to the sacred fire,
that you may become sacred bread for God's sacred feast."
Now stop complaining and get in the oven
Most Kind Regards
Lobster
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