1997/03/18 18:56
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #102
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 102
Today's Topics:
Drugs
Re: Heat from where
Re: Exciting Lucid Dream: Encounter With The Sheep-Woman
Re: common sense
Randi's challenge update, any takers?
re:lazy man, grey wizard
Re: direction of subtle energy flow in whole body - views ?
Re: Drugs
Light of Love
Naughty wizards
Cyber relaxation
hypnotism--scientists
Re: Drugs UNSUBSCRIBE
Drugs....and humour or lack of it....
(no subject)
Hmm
Fwd: direction of subtle energy flow in whole body - views ?
Re: Heat, energy scattering
Re: Suggestion and Yoga
Re: hypnotism--scientists UNSUBSCRIBE
Re: Drugs....and humour or lack of it....UNSUBSCRIBE
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 11:43:20 -0500 (EST)
From: CGIAJWATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Drugs
Message-ID: <970318114236_280565873ATnospamemout15.mail.aol.com>
What the Fuck!!!
Why are so many people out their making fun of drug using mystics. It's been
well documented that drugs used in both primitive and modern times have been
used to achieve new states of conciousness. I think that my drug use sped up
much of my process. I mean to suggest that anyone should take drugs, but I
think if this list should hold any merit, we should be able to discuss drugs,
sex, life, death, desires, disgusts, ect. without getting a billion joke
replys. We get enought mail on this list already. Yes some of the replys
are funny, but I don't make jokes about people religions or the sex/non sex
habits.
There, it feels good to vent.
Aaron
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 11:42:58 -0500 (EST)
From: CGIAJWATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Heat from where
Message-ID: <970318114244_605814257ATnospamemout19.mail.aol.com>
The heat is from your third chakra, the navel chakra if you will. It's
called Manipura (sp?). It's bija mantra is "ram" or "rang", chant once
throughout the whole exhail and concentrate on the navel (repeate) to
activate the chakra. It's perhaps a good idea to activate the heart chakra
first, just so if the heat gets too intense it has a way to release.
Activate the heart by the bija mantra "eeeyang".
In eastern traditions, you get most of you power through this chakra, it's
directly connected to the umbilical cord/life force, and almost all the
energy nerves/nadis.
Let me know if you get some good reactions, the third chakra is still a
toughie for me.
:)
Aaron
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 08:32:09 -1000
From: Antion <antionATnospamaloha.net>
To: Lucid Obe <kundaliniATnospamjuno.com>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Exciting Lucid Dream: Encounter With The Sheep-Woman
Message-ID: <332EDFA9.11FBATnospamaloha.net>
Lucid Obe wrote:
>
The best way I can
> describe what happened next is that her head began blinking very rapidly
> in succession from one kind of head to another (about a hundred different
> ones in approximately one-and-a-half seconds). Finally, she had the head
> of a sheep.
I just finished reading a truly exciting and disturbing book called
"Spiritwalker" by Hank Wesselman. It is (non fiction) written by an
anthrooogist who finds himself entering the bocy, mind and experience of
a young Hawaiian man living 5,00 years in the future. In the book there
is a lot of discussion about "therianthropes", half men (women!) half
beast who appear as spirit guides and helpers. Sounds like this is what
you have here.
Regards,
Antion
"I speak truth, all should listen, those who live in love are the ones
who attain to God"
Guru Gobind Singh ji
antionATnospamaloha.net
http://www.aloha.net/~antion/
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 14:45:25 -0300
From: Francis Araujo <francisATnospamambr.com.br>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: common sense
Message-ID: <B0000008960ATnospams1-ambr.ambr.com.br>
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Howard wrote:
>I felt compelled to write when seeing the posts about fear like jumping off a
>rooftop and then the one about just letting go and flying.
>
Yes, i am compelled to write about this particular fear also. For years I
have had horrible dreams where i find myself on edges of rooftops, antennas,
buildings, and so on. I am overwhelmed with fear, total utter fear. It is a
true nightmare. Lately, these dreams have been happening more often. I have
recently started practicing some meditation/energy exercises, and i feel i
might achieve a lucid dream soon.
So, my question is simply what the heck should i do? Is it or is it not
'safe' to jump over the edge? Should i give in to the fear, perhaps by
running into the building? What can this dream possible represent?
greetings from the 'lower' half of the globe,
Duv
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 10:47:48 -0800
From: Peter Norton <pnortonATnospamatwc.teradyne.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Randi's challenge update, any takers?
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not that I think he's really serious about changing his mind on
anything, but here it is anyway:
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From: James Randi --- Wizard <randi-hotlineATnospamssr.com>
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Subject: Up and away!
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Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 01:44:58 -0500
The JREF Challenge amount has now reached US$1,100,000. And, though
this amount is available to any "Therapeutic Touch" practitioner who
wants it, and the June 2-4 trials are planned for Fort Lauderdale, NOT
ONE application has been received! Strange. With thousands of
trained practitioners out there, we were expecting (?) a swarm of
eager applicants. Do we begin to suspect that TT is a cruel hoax
worked on helpless hospital patients?
I'm in Washington, D.C., and will return to Florida on Monday. Will
there be a line-up at the JREF door? Will Ed Dames, the famous
"psychic," be answering my challenge? Or begin to tell the truth
about his fear of being tested?
I think we all know the answers to these questions.
James Randi
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Date: Tue, 18 Mar 97 13:57:45 EST
From: chelseaATnospamsuperaje.com (Dominic & Maureen Marando)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: re:lazy man, grey wizard
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Aaron wrote:
K requires energy, dark energy is abundant, nothing matters.
Aaron: EVERYTHING MATTERS "God sees a little sparrow fall"
open yourself like an empty vessel and you invite danger...open yourself
only to the divine, and always ask for guidance and protection.
This spiritual work is no work for a "lazy Man"
Forgive me if I've misinterpreted what you wrote.
You are not an empty vessel, don't make yourself into one.
Mo :-)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 11:59:57 +0000
From: Tom Aston <yogi.tomATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: direction of subtle energy flow in whole body - views ?
Message-ID: <PMvG5DA9OoLzEws2ATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
In message <970317203923_806019319ATnospamemout12.mail.aol.com>,
DChern1123ATnospamaol.com writes
>Dear Tom, Ithink I was taught to satart yoga asanas on the right side (ladies
>start with the left) With respect to the warm up (pushing the blood up
>towards the heart )
>right arm first, then right foot and whole leg ,then left arm ,left foot and
>leg.Then all the rest of them.Interesting that in the Orthodox religion the
>men stand ,and I mean stand, on the right and ladies on the left.
> While "my" K starts with the left foot it's in it's infancy
>and I've never concluded anthing from it,.although now I suppose it could BE
>my feminine side, energy wise if that makes any sense.The rest of the K
>energy is really wild . Did you ever have any experiences with small muscle
>pulls or tears just below the cervical vertebrea where the shoulder is or a
>little below, usually on the left side.No matter how carefull I am ,for 20
>years I had a series of these pains there ,usually last for three days.
> Thanks for your input. dchern
>
Dear dchern,
Thanks for your response. Yes I think many systems of yoga start with
the right. The left side of the body is, I believe, related to the right
hand side of the brain which is associated with the yin/female/creative
aspects of life, so that makes sense. Never had a muscle tear in
cervical region, or anywhere else for that matter, but did have cramp
sometimes in shoulder and toes which eventually was burnt out and
cleansed away. If you're having raw energy control problems, I found
that integrating a little of everything worked well in cooling things
down and bringing harmony to subtle energy - Learnt basics of tai chi,
qi kung, shiatsu and aikido and hatha yoga and just well, played around
with them until felt grounded and centred - no good adopting formal
discipline in classical style as this either created incredible
resistance within - like a pressure cooker, or almost blew my head off
as just too intense and severe. People remarked on how graceful I was
for a while on the dance floor (which for me was quite a compliment if
you'd seen me dance before), but this passed too and the body became
less crucial. Hope this is useful Rgds Yogi Tom
--
Tom Aston
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 14:49:32 -0800
From: S C Stoner <kcstonerATnospammbcomp.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Drugs
Message-ID: <332F1BFC.47EEATnospammbcomp.com>
CGIAJWATnospamaol.com wrote:
>
> What the Fuck!!!
>
> Why are so many people out their making fun of drug using mystics.
yo...bro...take a lude...lighten up man...dont take things sooooo
personally! i am not judging you...only TRYING to interject a little
humor...nor making judgement of the recent nutmeg postings...SORRY...but
i still think it was cute...
It's been
> well documented that drugs used in both primitive and modern times have been
> used to achieve new states of conciousness. I think that my drug use sped up
> much of my process.
and i would love to smoke some that i have...right about now...but due to
recent un-employnment and the knowledge of drug testing with future
employers...i can't...time and place...but believe me...as soon as the
timing is right...am going to light the inscence...put on the
tunes...meditate...and lihgt one up! will think of you when i do and let
you know what i find...(this pot happened to be found in an officer's
club at the local army base...BE ALL YOU CAN BE...right?!)
I mean to suggest that anyone should take drugs, but I
> think if this list should hold any merit, we should be able to discuss drugs,
> sex, life, death, desires, disgusts, ect. without getting a billion joke
> replys.
and by all means...(IMHO)...this forum...media...enables us to share
whatever we want to, with others...sex, life, death, desires, disgusts,
etc...sorry...missed the phrase noting any humor is not welcomed...
(tongue in cheek)
i have found that humor is a neccesary addition into my life...as well as
the other stimuluses that i feed on as well! has helped me pull through
some VERY rough times, when i can lighten up and laugh at something...as
much of part of living as is the 'k' experiences that i pursue...
We get enought mail on this list already. Yes some of the replys
> are funny, but I don't make jokes about people religions or the sex/non sex
> habits.
but i bet you...you chuckle sometimes and maybe even think of some
reply...though never put it on screen?
> There, it feels good to vent.
>
> Aaron
hey...Aaron...
am truly sorry fro offending you with my humor...or lack of it perhaps...
or timing...or what you percieved the intent to be...
to know me...you would realize that there was no ill will involved and i
would never intentionally will you bad...nor make fun of your opinion and
truths...
and i offer this apology to the you, the list, and to the e-mail gods...
now...i will go back to my lurking...climb back under my rock, perhaps...
and remeber to think twice about my interjection of humor, next time i
want to share it...and add your posting to the 'learned lessons of life'.
M.M.
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 14:59:54 -0500
From: "Elwin J. Pretty" <eprettyATnospamtrytel.com>
To: "'k-list'" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Light of Love
Message-ID: <01BC33AD.2EE13080ATnospamport8.trytel.com>
A few members have written going into light and I would like to tell of an experience that occurred to myself some years ago.
A young woman asked if she could use our residence to conduct past life regression for a number of people in this area. Permission was given and over a two day period she conducted the regression on a good number of people. The second day there was still time after the last person was here and she asked if I would like to try the regression. Agreement was made to do so but, I did not expect to experience too much as I had already experienced so many past lives that the only thing I could think of is that many of them must have been Parallel lives.
When I had made myself comfortable, she started the regression. Down the 19 steps I stepped and the down the hallway, at the end of which, there were supposed to be doors that were to be opened and passed through into a past life but, when I arrived to where the doors were supposed to be, they were smashed down and I just stepped through the opening into light.
I was just inside when suddenly Love flooded into my being completely filling it. It just constantly poured down into me for an hour and a half. I sensed that she also was being filled with that same Love. At the end of an hour and a half I came up from wherever I had been and we talked for ten minutes about what had happened.
After the ten minutes I made myself comfortable again and was immediately filled with Love again but this time it was from the Earth and it too flooded my whole being and also lasted for one and half hours. The love was different but the same, a real paradox but it made me very aware that the earth is a living entity.
Afterwards, I made dinner for the two of us, very little speaking was done. Later we went down to the shore and sat on steps leading down to the water. I soon became aware that she was bumping into me, hip to hip. I would move to the side and so would she. I don't think she even realized it was occurring.
My oh my 'Have some more Madeira, my dear.'
Elwin
I am as old as the hills
and as young as the morning dew
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 19:03:47 -0800
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
CC: jan.watsonATnospamsympatico.ca
Subject: Naughty wizards
Message-ID: <332F5793.8CAATnospamdial.pipex.com>
El Plum Loco Madman (S C Stoner) wrote (quoting Aaron the Magnificent)
> > Why are so many people out their making fun of drug using mystics.
> It's been
> > well documented that drugs used in both primitive and modern times have been
> > used to achieve new states of conciousness. I think that my drug use sped up
> > much of my process.
Aaron certain medicines can
aggravate as well as soothe your PMT
(do not give me that excuse about not being a woman
- that is clearly sexist)
What you say is true
but narcotic ingestion is open
to humorous interpretation
In fact you may have noticed
NOTHING IS SACRED
and that is why we worship her . . .
> hey...Aaron...
> am truly sorry fro offending you with my humor...or lack of it perhaps...
> or timing...or what you percieved the intent to be...
> to know me...you would realize that there was no ill will involved and i
> would never intentionally will you bad...nor make fun of your opinion and
> truths...
>
> and i offer this apology to the you, the list, and to the e-mail gods...
>
> now...i will go back to my lurking...climb back under my rock, perhaps...
> and remeber to think twice about my interjection of humor, next time i
> want to share it...and add your posting to the 'learned lessons of life'.
El Loco!
Do not think twice
do not even think at all
I enjoyed your posting on the spice of life
and Aaron is a grumpy ol' wizard
who should have his wand slapped
Most Kind Regards
Lobster
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 19:42:07 -0800
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Cyber relaxation
Message-ID: <332F608F.2F66ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
Hi Kundalites,
Busy day?
Need to unwind?
Try the ARC "Loop of Positive Affirmation"
It goes around for eternity
Do it s l o o o w l y
ARC - Loop of Positive Affirmation
http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/place/vv60/nlp.html
Most Kind Regards
Lobster
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 16:57:15 -0600 (CST)
From: Amy Wilder <awilderATnospammail.coin.missouri.edu>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: hypnotism--scientists
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970318164624.24546A-100000ATnospamcoinc0>
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Hello all..
I haven't really posted much on this list, so for those of u who don't
remember or haven't seen me, my name is Amy and I am 15. I live in Missouri..
Anyway, I have some opinions & questions :) First, my question--what is
hypnotism? I know what it 'sis', but what is it really? Does it really
work?? I used to be facinated with it not so long ago--I used to try
hypnotising my friends, and they tried hypnotising me-it never worked on
me though for some reason. But I haven't thought about it for a long
time, till suddenly it popped into my head last night. Suddenly I'm
facinated again. What is it? How does it work? Does it have anything
to do with kundalini (directly)? It seems like it should. Could anyone
help me?
Now, something I wanted to say:: about scientists.. please, PLEASE don't
judge them or treat them like alien beings who have completely narrow
minds and aren't open at all to 'supernatural' or 'unordinary' things..
remember they are human beings first :) My mom is a scientist, and she
is very open minded.. in fact, she is one of the first people I talk to
when something wierd happens to me. Sometimes anyway--but I think
science is so close to unordinary and supernatural (for lack of better
words..) I LOVE science.. it's facinating.. sometimes it assumes too
much and looks at only a tiny bit of what it's looking at, but I love to
argue too and I don't believe everything I'm told.. in fact, I am
thinking of doing something related to physics, like becoming an
astronaut or pilot. Especially a pilot--I LOVE to fly :) And maybe I'll
be the first person on Mars someday (doubt it, but u never know) But
anyway, I think I made my point. Please don't take me the wrong way or
get offended..
Oh, another question.. does anyone know anything about Nez Perce Indian
names? My grandpa, the summer before he died, wrote me a letter and gave
me an indian bracelet that had been given to him by an old Nez Perce
woman when he was small (I was 2 that summer); and he also gave me the
Nez Perce name that she had given to his little sister: Su-sapp-pee. Can
anyone tell me what it means wor where to find out? He didn't know.
Thank you all
amy
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 18:51:31 -0500 (EST)
From: BAFUATnospamaol.com
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From: Tom Aston <yogi.tomATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, S C Stoner <kcstonerATnospammbcomp.com>
Subject: Drugs....and humour or lack of it....
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In message <332F1BFC.47EEATnospammbcomp.com>, S C Stoner <kcstonerATnospammbcomp.com>
writes
>CGIAJWATnospamaol.com wrote:
>>
>> What the Fuck!!!
>>
>> Why are so many people out their making fun of drug using mystics.
>
>yo...bro...take a lude...lighten up man...dont take things sooooo
>personally! i am not judging you...only TRYING to interject a little
>humor...nor making judgement of the recent nutmeg postings...SORRY...but
>i still think it was cute...
>
> It's been
>> well documented that drugs used in both primitive and modern times have been
>> used to achieve new states of conciousness. I think that my drug use sped up
>> much of my process.
>
>and i would love to smoke some that i have...right about now...but due to
> recent un-employnment and the knowledge of drug testing with future
>employers...i can't...time and place...but believe me...as soon as the
>timing is right...am going to light the inscence...put on the
>tunes...meditate...and lihgt one up! will think of you when i do and let
>you know what i find...(this pot happened to be found in an officer's
>club at the local army base...BE ALL YOU CAN BE...right?!)
>
> I mean to suggest that anyone should take drugs, but I
>> think if this list should hold any merit, we should be able to discuss drugs,
>> sex, life, death, desires, disgusts, ect. without getting a billion joke
>> replys.
>
>and by all means...(IMHO)...this forum...media...enables us to share
>whatever we want to, with others...sex, life, death, desires, disgusts,
>etc...sorry...missed the phrase noting any humor is not welcomed...
>(tongue in cheek)
>
>i have found that humor is a neccesary addition into my life...as well as
>the other stimuluses that i feed on as well! has helped me pull through
>some VERY rough times, when i can lighten up and laugh at something...as
>much of part of living as is the 'k' experiences that i pursue...
>
> We get enought mail on this list already. Yes some of the replys
>> are funny, but I don't make jokes about people religions or the sex/non sex
>> habits.
>
>but i bet you...you chuckle sometimes and maybe even think of some
>reply...though never put it on screen?
>
>> There, it feels good to vent.
>>
>> Aaron
>
>hey...Aaron...
>am truly sorry fro offending you with my humor...or lack of it perhaps...
>or timing...or what you percieved the intent to be...
>to know me...you would realize that there was no ill will involved and i
>would never intentionally will you bad...nor make fun of your opinion and
>truths...
>
>and i offer this apology to the you, the list, and to the e-mail gods...
>
>now...i will go back to my lurking...climb back under my rock, perhaps...
>and remeber to think twice about my interjection of humor, next time i
>want to share it...and add your posting to the 'learned lessons of life'.
>
>M.M.
>
Everyone's getting terribly sensitive and even a bit pious aren't
they....isn't the point that we're all in this together, so we might as
well live and let live ?
Kundalini is pretty robust, I think she can handle it.Of course it's
hard to gauge where to pitch humour and irony to such a large audience,
but overall, I'm having a lot of fun....Yogi Tom
--
Tom Aston
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 16:34:53 -0800
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Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 20:02:49 -0500 (EST)
From: VidentATnospamaol.com
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Subject: Fwd: direction of subtle energy flow in whole body - views ?
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Subj: Re: direction of subtle energy flow in whole body - views ?
Date: 97-03-18 12:28:18 EST
From: Vident
To: DChern1123
In a message dated 97-03-17 20:43:10 EST, you write:
Dchern 1112 wrote:
<< Did you ever have any experiences with small muscle
pulls or tears just below the cervical vertebrea where the shoulder is or a
little below, usually on the left side >>
since my awakening, an area in my back on the right side between the wing
and the spinal column buzzes or itches constantly. about six months ago a
knot formed there that was incredibly painful and had to be worked out. I
have no idea if K is the reason. I don't even know if K is awake in me.
after my initial awakening, my left hand buzzed for months. Went to other
areas of my left side as well. For a year and a half (and sometimes still)
my left leg would nag and nag in the evening. meditation would stop it.
Perhaps it was a signal to do my meditation as I do it morning and evening.
I really don't have a clue. My forehead and the top of the bridge of my
nose buzzed to certain tones in music. Is this K? I don't get anything else
folks on this list get ( visions, locutions, etc) so perhaps not.
Love,
Susan
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 17:16:04 -0800
From: Joe Patrick Flarity <joeATnospamflarity.com>
To: Tom Aston <yogi.tomATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, Martin Koorts <MARTINATnospamkidd.co.za>
Subject: Re: Heat, energy scattering
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Tom Aston wrote:
>
>
>
> Have learnt the hard way that I should be very careful where
> and with whom I use this energy, mustn't waste it or scatter it in so
> many directions...
Dear Yogi Tom,
This subject comes up often and there seems to be a delicate balancing
here with many of us. I always feel uneasy when I have to 'coral the
horses' to avoid certain situations.
We could all benefit immensely if you could detail examples from your
own experience when the above has happened.
Thank you so much,
Joe
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 01:41:00 GMT
From: tyrone.waltonATnospamhhbbs.com (Tyrone Walton)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Suggestion and Yoga
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Hello, Amy. I'm not an expert,but I play one on T.V.:)
According to certain writers suggestion plays an important part in yoga.
Here are some quotes and references for you. Rammurti S. Mishra, M.D.
Aurthor or Fundamentals of Yoga(Harmony Books 1987 edition).
"Suggestion(dhyana) is the most important of these three." Suggestion is
the underlying and fundamental cause of all mental phenomena and is the
powerful instrument of samadhi." Mental suggestion are as real as the
universe around you."Autosuggestion, therefore, means talking to
yourself and suggesting to yourself." Suggestion is the Key to
Meditation."
>From Paul F. Case in the book The Tarot. " As a symbol of duplication,
reflection, copying, transcription, reproduction,and so on, it relates
definitely to memory." The number 2 also "suggests" the ideas of
duplicity, illusion, error and delusion." This is correct, because
subconsciousness repeats and elaborates the mistaken faulty observation
of self-conscious." Speaking on card number 8 he say's"Over her head is
the same horizontal 8 that hovers over the head of the Magician." It
indicates the fact that subconsciousness receives the
"impress" (suggestions) of self-conscious mental states, and is modified
by self-conscious selectivity and initiative."Subconsciousness always
directs the activities of the subhuman forces of nature."
Subconsciousness, in turn, is alyays amenable to impressions originating
at the self-conscious level of mentation."
>From the Key to Yoga by Walter B. Gibson(Ottenheimer Publisher,1958)
"This latter interpretation provides us with a key to yoga and the more
fanciful phases of the science." It tells why so much can be
accomplished under the instruction of a guru. His powers of suggestion,
trained and controlled through long practice, can be passed along to the
chela, who absorbs them unknowingly, perhaps hynotically."
Hope this is of some help to you. Oh one more thing about the card
Strength. P.F.C. also say's "The woman's yellow hair identifies her to
represent creative imagination and the subconscious "generation" of
mental imagery.
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