1997/03/18 09:44
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #101
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 101
Today's Topics:
Meditative technique for the attention deficit
common sense
Re: A very funny post if ever I've known one - more please
Re:Reactions
Heat from where
Please, don't judge all alike.
Please, don't judge all alike. -Reply
Exciting Lucid Dream: Encounter With The Sheep-Woman
re: cannabis and "k"
Re:Reactions
Fwd: Re: Aaron the Magnificent
Re: Exciting Lucid Dream: Encounter With The Sheep-Woman
Re: A very funny post if ever I've known one - more please
Heat, energy and transmutation from padma to vajra
Re: visualization
Re: Meditative technique for the attention deficit
Re: Cannabis and Kundalini
Re: Exciting Lucid Dream: Encounter With The Sheep-Woman
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 19:19:22 -0800
From: Joe Patrick Flarity <joeATnospamflarity.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Meditative technique for the attention deficit
Message-Id: <332E09BA.255ATnospamflarity.com>
Dear K list members,
Someone posted concerning meditative techniques and I lost the thread
amongst the many messages. I will talk briefly on what I do which seems
effective for those of us who tend to get lost in mall parking lots.
(Well, myself anyway.) First, I would like to recap the other methods I
work with:
1. Focus on a desired object (light, flame, a sacred object, open
lotus, etc.) and hold it for as long as possible and as still as
possible. I found this very difficult and exhausting and have seen
slight improvement after 6 months of effort. I am still trying, but
when I start getting frustrated, I back off.
2. Try for emptiness, quiet and openness and take what comes. I find
this much easier but images sometimes come so fast and furious that I
get exhausted and just basically shut down from sensory overload.
3. MY PREFERRED METHOD. Starting with method 2, try to hold the
images. Accept every image as a gift of love to yourself and try to
center, hold and bring closer every image. See any shift or slowing
down as success. As the image slips away, thank yourself for the
opportunity to cherish the gift. Forgive yourself for not being able to
hold as long as you would like. Clear you mind and get ready for the
next image.
It is very important welcome ALL the images into your center. See the
outwardly hideous or wicked images as messages to yourself which were
sent in love. They should be treated with exactly the same reverence
you would use for your physical appearances (a big nose, stretch marks
or cellulite) that may not meet your ego's definition of 'good'.
Know all the images to be manifestations of yourself and holy. This is
true. Stay in the brightest light you can see for as long as possible.
Know that your soul is sending what you need and you are greatly honored
to receive anything at all.
According to the "Tibetan Book of the Dead," images from life
experiances are what most of us see at death and I think #3 is great
practice for dying. It also seems very good at softening the ego.
Pardon me for the long discourse, but I think a thread on meditation
techniques that are working will be a great benefit to everyone.
Love,
Joe
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 22:31:04 -0500 (EST)
From: HowardCushATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: common sense
Message-ID: <970317222937_46271655ATnospamemout05.mail.aol.com>
I felt compelled to write when seeing the posts about fear like jumping off a
rooftop and then the one about just letting go and flying.
This letting go, I hope is metaphorical. The reason I say this is that in my
awakening, the impersonal K energy has been very inflated in my body/mind and
led me to the balcony of a building and wanted to, literally fly. If I had
surrendered on that level, I would be dead.
A psychic once told me, regarding forms and voices and energies, never to do
anything that violated my common sense. This was sage advice, in my opinion,
and I think about it a lot.
When we are dealing with things that are truly beyond our understanding, it
is helpful to be both humble and prudent...unless your earthly life is not so
precious to you.
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 00:16:16 -0500 (EST)
From: LibraKat11ATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: A very funny post if ever I've known one - more please
Message-ID: <970318001615_-1103470208ATnospamemout06.mail.aol.com>
Yogi Tom wrote:
<< They just cannot
handle the thought, let alone the experience that there is an irrational
cosmic force within us all just waiting to tear the ego to pieces. >>
I've been dealing with it a number of years now and kundalini is many
things, but I never once thought of it as *irrational*. In fact, it seems to
be highly organized to me. I'm amazed looking back over time and realizing
that it knows exactly what to do, when and how. The problem is that
sometimes *I'm* irrational!!
Love :)
Kat
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 05:27:09 GMT
From: tyrone.waltonATnospamhhbbs.com (Tyrone Walton)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re:Reactions
Message-Id: <858662829ATnospamhhbbs.com>
Mistress A.S. I guess the fear is of psychosis. I've been there and
would rather not go there again. Plus the changes in my awareness are so
sudden! One moment I'm in my normal awareness. The next my sense of
sight is heighten. I've only had one full blown acid trip. These days
I'd rather keep my feet on the ground.
Tom, okay.... I chant 3 mantras I use the mantra:hang schung om. I also
chant the Gayrita. Excuse the poor the spelling,but I hope you know what
I'm refering to. Lately, I've taken to chanting the mantra for the heart
center. The full version, 12 petals plus seed sound. While chanting or
listening to this mantra. I do the practice of rolling away the
stones(Nyasa,laying on of hands).Over the Anahata. I also make use of
other mudras(finger gestures).
So my practice consist of mantra,nyasa,mudra. And listening to internal
sounds,plus alrernate breathing. Though I no longer hold the breath. I
read in one of Paul Burton's books that that can drive you insane.
Something I don't need at this point in my life!
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 08:44:35 +0200
From: Martin Koorts <MARTINATnospamKIDD.CO.ZA>
To: CGIAJWATnospamaol.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Heat from where
Message-Id: <s32e5687.072ATnospamKIDD.CO.ZA>
High Aaron
I don't know too much about Yoga or Chackras but have recently started reading about
it. The thing that got me going was HEAT!! I felt it in my whole body, like I am aflame,
burning, really nice!! The centre of the heat came from my stomach. It was hot. My
problem is:
I don't know how It came to be there?
What Chakra is this?
It only happens sometimes and I would like to know how to get it there every time?
What are the requirements to get the HEAT?
LUW
Mic
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 09:14:37 +0100
From: Enric Rovira <Enric.F.RoviraATnospamtelia.se>
To: "'kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com'" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>,
"'enric.f.roviraATnospamtelia.se'" <Enric.F.RoviraATnospamtelia.se>
Subject: Please, don't judge all alike.
Message-ID: <01BC337C.D9131900ATnospamport_06.haninge.trab.se>
Hi all,
Please, don't judge all alike. Please, above all, don't judge. And please don't take this post as a provocative one. It is not. I wanted just to comment.
It has been, there are, many scientist who are trying to balance both worlds the "irrational" and "logical". The great scientific breakthroughs are constituted of both parts and the authors of these discoveries have shown this awareness through other statements than scientific ones.
I don't know if it's easier to stay just in one world by neglecting the other, but I do know that the middle way is a difficult one, yet, I believe, the correct one. I think that the foreseen new scientific discoveries through the Aquarian age will be done through perfecting this balance.
Best Regards
/Enric
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From: Tom Aston[SMTP:yogi.tomATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk]
Sent: 17 mars 1997 21.08
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com; E Jason
Subject: A very funny post if ever I've known one - more please
In message <332D8301.3FEFATnospamdial.pipex.com>, E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
writes
>Larry Killen wrote:
>
>> I have a confession of sorts. I sent this mail out this morning with the
>> intentions of posting it to the K-list. As you might note below, it
>> inadvertantly went to another list I belong to. I'm awaiting the response
>> from this very scientific list in regards to my statement.
>>
>> If the k-list aquires some very strange new members...oh this is too much.
>> ESRI is composed of mainly spatial analyst and programmers. They will read
>> this over and over and over looking for some logic.....
This is the funniest post I have seen so far...I know just how funny
because I have run across scientists myself who are not just unable to
understand where I'm coming from, but feel an uncontrollable need to try
and eradicate the kundalini experience and perhaps me too from the face
of the earth as if it was some kind of poison or virus. They just cannot
handle the thought, let alone the experience that there is an irrational
cosmic force within us all just waiting to tear the ego to pieces. So if
we get a positive response, it would be quite an event......
More inappropriate postings please, maybe we should draw out the poison
of the reductive scientific mind by infiltrating lists all over the
net...a kind of spiritual subversion Vietcong style. Any thoughts out
there ? - Regards Yogi Tom
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 09:29:21 +0200
From: Martin Koorts <MARTINATnospamKIDD.CO.ZA>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, Enric.F.RoviraATnospamtelia.se
Subject: Please, don't judge all alike. -Reply
Message-Id: <s32e6102.087ATnospamKIDD.CO.ZA>
Yogi tom
This heat, is it only an astral or subtle heat or can you feel it physically? "As above so
below? If you feel it astrally you should be able to feel it physically?
Martin
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 04:11:02 EST
From: kundaliniATnospamjuno.com (Lucid Obe)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Exciting Lucid Dream: Encounter With The Sheep-Woman
Message-ID: <19970318.031239.8055.2.kundaliniATnospamjuno.com>
Warning!!! This contains a tidbit of sexual content at the end. If you
are offended by sexual material do not go any further.
On a recent trip to another city, I had the following dream: I neglected
for about three or four weeks to record a written account, so I may not
be getting all the details of the dream correctly. (Mostly things may not
be in quite the right order; however, I think I can convey the basic
feeling of the dream.) I was having a "normal" dream in which some very
weird things were happening to me and some other people. In one part, I
think there were some cartoon-like monsters after us.The best I can
describe is that we were stuck in a Windows program-like environment. I
found I had to close several windows before I got me and some others out
of an unsettling if not dangerous situation. A short while later, for
some reason, I realized I was dreaming. I saw a young woman fly into the
air away from me. I felt I should follow her and I did. She turned around
in her flight and told me, "You cannot come with me." (This is the part
of which I am not sure of the chronology. In any case, it all happened in
very close sequence.) I recall I asked her why I couldn't come. She
wouldn't tell me. She then said to me, I can take you to heaven or to
hell! She began to fly away. I rushed after her and grabbed her. She
turned around in my arms and was now facing me. The best way I can
describe what happened next is that her head began blinking very rapidly
in succession from one kind of head to another (about a hundred different
ones in approximately one-and-a-half seconds). Finally, she had the head
of a sheep. She said, I could kill you! (that is, I think she said this).
I asked her have you ever killed anyone? She said, no, but that she
could. She either told me or I knew that she had been involved in many
situations with many people in which she was helping them (some aware of
her doings, some unaware). It sometimes appeared that she was hurting
(or, punishing) them, but she was really helping them. She took on many
different roles and appearances at different times. (It seems like I am
telling something wrong or leaving out something important here.)
Suddenly we shot up together into the air and I received a rush of
tingling energy and the dream scene blacked-out. I began to dream of
something else. I do not recall whether I was still lucid. Sometime later
I was sitting on a cement floor in a building or some kind of shelter
with an open front facing a lake. I observed one or two large boats on
the water which were burning on fire. Suddenly, a woman landed in front
of me. Although her physical appearance was different, I instantly knew
it was the Sheep-Woman. I was again lucid. She embraced me and we hugged
very closely together. Our bodies began to pulsate rhythmically together.
I became sexually excited and went with the feeling. Shortly, I orgasmed.
It was not the earth-shaking orgasm that one might expect. Actually it
was quite mild; however, it was very relaxing and involved the whole
body. I woke up tingling with a rush of cool energy shortly thereafter.
Hey, I wonder if I have found my dream guide?! Although, I haven't seen
her since, that I am aware of. In any case, I have had only two other
lucid dream orgasms several years ago and I rate this most recent one as
the best. By the way, studies have shown that women who lucid dream have
LD orgasms more frequently and earth-shakingly than men--just the
opposite of real life! Also, if you are not aware, in regard to a man's
lucid dream orgasms, they are dry, that is, one does not ejaculate,
presumably because it is first triggered in the mental rather than the
physical.
I would be glad to hear your thoughts,
Lucid Obe
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 05:00:43 -0800
From: S C Stoner <kcstonerATnospammbcomp.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: re: cannabis and "k"
Message-ID: <332E91FB.57CCATnospammbcomp.com>
dear fellow 'k' list members...
my cannibis days preceded my known k experiences...though my favorite
drug of choice...is the one...and only...
...NUTMEG...
of course...could there BE ANY other choice...
the Madman
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 10:03:50 GMT
From: tyrone.waltonATnospamhhbbs.com (Tyrone Walton)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re:Reactions
Message-Id: <858679430ATnospamhhbbs.com>
Mistress A.S. I guess the fear is of psychosis. I've been there and
would rather not go there again. Plus the changes in my awareness are so
sudden! One moment I'm in my normal awareness. The next my sense of
sight is heighten. I've only had one full blown acid trip. These days
I'd rather keep my feet on the ground.
As for going with the feelings of the solar plexus chant. Are you saying
I should give in and jump?:)
Tom,okay...... I chant three mantras I use the mantra:hang,schung,om. I
also chant the Gayriata.Excuse the spelling, hope you understand what
I'm refering to. Lately I've taken to chanting the mantra for the heart
center. The full version, 12 petals plus the seed sound Yang. I do the
practice of rolling away the stones(nyasa,laying on of hands). Over the
Anhata. I also make use of other mudras(finger gestures).
So my practice consist of mantra,nyasa,mudra. And listening to internal
sounds, plus alternate breathing. Though I no longer hold the breath. I
read in a Paul Burton notebook. That holding the breath can cause
insanity. Something I don't need at this point in my life.
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 08:12:00 -0500 (EST)
From: CGIAJWATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Fwd: Re: Aaron the Magnificent
Message-ID: <970318081158_180372741ATnospamemout01.mail.aol.com>
Dear Aaron:
Could you send this to the group, my messages keep coming back. I had the
same experience as you, the energy came in through my head or crown chakra
and on down. I don't know if I like it going back up, it felt better when it
was going back down. Lainie
>
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Forwarded message:
From: lainieATnospamatheria.europa.com
To: CGIAJWATnospamaol.com
Date: 97-03-17 17:22:00 EST
Dear Aaron:
Could you send this to the group, my messages keep coming back. I had the
same experience as you, the energy came in through my head or crown chakra
and on down. I don't know if I like it going back up, it felt better when it
was going back down. Lainie
>
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 12:36:15 +0000
From: Tom Aston <yogi.tomATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, Lucid Obe <kundaliniATnospamjuno.com>
Subject: Re: Exciting Lucid Dream: Encounter With The Sheep-Woman
Message-ID: <1sPIxTA$woLzEwoLATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
In message <19970318.031239.8055.2.kundaliniATnospamjuno.com>, Lucid Obe
<kundaliniATnospamjuno.com> writes
>Warning!!! This contains a tidbit of sexual content at the end. If you
>are offended by sexual material do not go any further.
>
More please, this beats any of my dreams, lucid or otherwise. Yogi Tom
>
>
>On a recent trip to another city, I had the following dream: I neglected
>for about three or four weeks to record a written account, so I may not
>be getting all the details of the dream correctly. (Mostly things may not
>be in quite the right order; however, I think I can convey the basic
>feeling of the dream.) I was having a "normal" dream in which some very
>weird things were happening to me and some other people. In one part, I
>think there were some cartoon-like monsters after us.The best I can
>describe is that we were stuck in a Windows program-like environment. I
>found I had to close several windows before I got me and some others out
>of an unsettling if not dangerous situation. A short while later, for
>some reason, I realized I was dreaming. I saw a young woman fly into the
>air away from me. I felt I should follow her and I did. She turned around
>in her flight and told me, "You cannot come with me." (This is the part
>of which I am not sure of the chronology. In any case, it all happened in
>very close sequence.) I recall I asked her why I couldn't come. She
>wouldn't tell me. She then said to me, I can take you to heaven or to
>hell! She began to fly away. I rushed after her and grabbed her. She
>turned around in my arms and was now facing me. The best way I can
>describe what happened next is that her head began blinking very rapidly
>in succession from one kind of head to another (about a hundred different
>ones in approximately one-and-a-half seconds). Finally, she had the head
>of a sheep. She said, I could kill you! (that is, I think she said this).
>I asked her have you ever killed anyone? She said, no, but that she
>could. She either told me or I knew that she had been involved in many
>situations with many people in which she was helping them (some aware of
>her doings, some unaware). It sometimes appeared that she was hurting
>(or, punishing) them, but she was really helping them. She took on many
>different roles and appearances at different times. (It seems like I am
>telling something wrong or leaving out something important here.)
>Suddenly we shot up together into the air and I received a rush of
>tingling energy and the dream scene blacked-out. I began to dream of
>something else. I do not recall whether I was still lucid. Sometime later
>I was sitting on a cement floor in a building or some kind of shelter
>with an open front facing a lake. I observed one or two large boats on
>the water which were burning on fire. Suddenly, a woman landed in front
>of me. Although her physical appearance was different, I instantly knew
>it was the Sheep-Woman. I was again lucid. She embraced me and we hugged
>very closely together. Our bodies began to pulsate rhythmically together.
>I became sexually excited and went with the feeling. Shortly, I orgasmed.
>It was not the earth-shaking orgasm that one might expect. Actually it
>was quite mild; however, it was very relaxing and involved the whole
>body. I woke up tingling with a rush of cool energy shortly thereafter.
>Hey, I wonder if I have found my dream guide?! Although, I haven't seen
>her since, that I am aware of. In any case, I have had only two other
>lucid dream orgasms several years ago and I rate this most recent one as
>the best. By the way, studies have shown that women who lucid dream have
>LD orgasms more frequently and earth-shakingly than men--just the
>opposite of real life! Also, if you are not aware, in regard to a man's
>lucid dream orgasms, they are dry, that is, one does not ejaculate,
>presumably because it is first triggered in the mental rather than the
>physical.
>
>I would be glad to hear your thoughts,
>Lucid Obe
>
--
Tom Aston
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 12:30:43 +0000
From: Tom Aston <yogi.tomATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, LibraKat11ATnospamaol.com
Subject: Re: A very funny post if ever I've known one - more please
Message-ID: <psMPBPAzroLzEwLqATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
In message <970318001615_-1103470208ATnospamemout06.mail.aol.com>,
LibraKat11ATnospamaol.com writes
>Yogi Tom wrote:
>
><< They just cannot
> handle the thought, let alone the experience that there is an irrational
> cosmic force within us all just waiting to tear the ego to pieces. >>
>
> I've been dealing with it a number of years now and kundalini is many
>things, but I never once thought of it as *irrational*. In fact, it seems to
>be highly organized to me. I'm amazed looking back over time and realizing
>that it knows exactly what to do, when and how. The problem is that
>sometimes *I'm* irrational!!
>
>Love :)
>
>Kat
>
Dear Kat,
Yep, you're right, I was using rational in a way that I wouldn't
normally - referring to reductive, mechanistic view of human experience
and evolution of consciousness.....kundalini has perfect logic. In
Buddhist terms we say you've "out-dharma-ed" me on this one.
Humbled, Yogi Tom
--
Tom Aston
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 14:15:28 +0000
From: Tom Aston <yogi.tomATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, Martin Koorts <MARTINATnospamkidd.co.za>
Subject: Heat, energy and transmutation from padma to vajra
Message-ID: <IeQnNcAAOqLzEwMnATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
In message <s32e6102.087ATnospamKIDD.CO.ZA>, Martin Koorts <MARTINATnospamKIDD.CO.ZA>
writes
>Yogi tom
>
>This heat, is it only an astral or subtle heat or can you feel it physically?
>"As above so
>below? If you feel it astrally you should be able to feel it physically?
>
>Martin
>
Dear martin,
It's more energy than heat although for a long while I was incredibly
warm all the time and never had to worry about getting cold in winter.
It's more vajra like than in past although it has its soft side too, in
past more like padma, lotus, healing energy for self and others, very
warm emotions, wholesome...but came a time when had to cut through
illusions and develop insight as well as positive energy, moods and
thought. Have learnt the hard way that I should be very careful where
and with whom I use this energy, mustn't waste it or scatter it in so
many directions, thus looking for sympathetic and knowledgable
environment like kundalini list. Even when heart and head work in
balance, must rea\lise own limitations and be realistic in what can be
achieved. Any clearer ?
Yogi Tom
--
Tom Aston
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 09:15:11 -0800
From: MAX PRESCOTT <sumacATnospamwin.bright.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: visualization
Message-ID: <332ECD9F.BA8ATnospamwin.bright.net>
Do not worry about visualizing. I work with people all the time to try
to help them create what is needed in there life. I would say that most
of them aren't able to visualize, not because they are unable to, but
because that is not the way they get their cues. Some people go more by
a "feeling" they get about things, some smell things (Ex. I might
visualize a forest, but another person will smell the leaves, trees,
fresh air etc.) And others have their own sense they use. We hear a lot
about visualization, but that is not the only path. Find what is best
for you. Do not try so hard. Let your creative imagination go where it
wants to and soon you'll be where you want to be. Good Luck, Colleen
Nothing Is wrote:
>
> I have trouble picturing, let alone keeping a "real" looking
> vision to my mind(like buddha, etc.) when doing meditational exercise.
> I can see fluctuating shapes and patterns of energy, and when I'm lucky,
> break through to the astral plane and see large, fluctuating, translucent
> bodies of energy that come and go. I keep getting "Better" at seeing
> things in the astral plane with more detail and life rather than just big
> blobs of energy like when I first started. For now I usually just let
> the forms come by themselves and sometimes visualize a simple upside down
> pyramid and try to hold it, but it is hard. What do most other people
> do? Is it important to try and visualize or is it better to naturally
> let go and let the visions come? I tend to stay more relaxed with
> forgetting visualization and letting it come, but I feel I have hit a
> wall. I'm taking some art classes next quarter and I hope this will help
> me "see things" in my mind better.
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 12:18:40 +0000
From: Tom Aston <yogi.tomATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, joeATnospamflarity.com
Subject: Re: Meditative technique for the attention deficit
Message-ID: <gcYNNGAggoLzEwpYATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
In message <332E09BA.255ATnospamflarity.com>, Joe Patrick Flarity
<joeATnospamflarity.com> writes
>Dear K list members,
>
>Someone posted concerning meditative techniques and I lost the thread
>amongst the many messages. I will talk briefly on what I do which seems
>effective for those of us who tend to get lost in mall parking lots.
>(Well, myself anyway.) First, I would like to recap the other methods I
>work with:
Thanks for some interesting points Joe,
I blundered around with meditation for seven years after shaktipat,
using vague methods picked up from yoga books. In the end I ran out of
options and went to the technicians on meditation - the Buddhists. I
just needed more knowledge on psychology, subtle energy and the
transcendental states so I could work out where I was, what I needed to
do next, and where I'd gone wrong in the past.
The basic approach is to develop samatha, calmness through mindfulness
of breathing and integration of emotions and intellect and body through
metta bhavan, development of loving kindness, or in its simplest form,
dwelling in the heart, combined with mindfulness of the whole body and
emotions and thoughts.
When things are nice and stable and the lower chakras are relatively
clean and one's life is fairly integratd on every level from exercise
and diet to relationships and work....then one can think about
developing single-pointedness, concentration and insight - or vipassana
meditation as it is often called. This can also extend to a method of
Zen-like inquiry into whatever seems appropriate, like Who am I ? What
is my true nature ? Why am I here ? What is the true nature of
experience ? etc etc
This may sound harmless enough, but concentration without a holistic and
pure foundation rooted in the heart, breath awareness and body can have
its dangers. Insight can be a disturbing thing if it comes too quick or
goes too deep on an unsteady foundation.
Then of course comes the royal road of Tantric meditation in the form of
sadhana when one first visualises a pure symbolic form, learns to
dissolve it in the mind's eye and then begins to identify with that
form, ultimately using this approach in the purest of all meditation
techniques guru yoga in which one melds one's whole being with that of
the guru who can manifest in many ways.
After this I lost all inclination to meditate at all and would just go
into savasana (corpse pose of yoga) every morning on waking up and see
where the shakti wanted to go...perhaps the best way to meditate after
you've established reasonable discipline and self-control to avoid the
mind going in all directions, is just to open up to the light with lotus
meditation in which one visualises the crown chakra opening in the sun.
I tried this over a summer in the sun on my roof and it was like being a
flower in spring. All the chakras began to open up spontaneously and all
I had to do was stay with pure images that seemed appropriate at the
time.
Hope this helps a bit - why not try a bit of savasana as things sound a
bit willful at the moment. Regards Yogi Tom
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 11:29:14 -0500 (EST)
From: DouglasMFATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Cannabis and Kundalini
Message-ID: <970318112913_-1505422811ATnospamemout12.mail.aol.com>
Dear Aaron,
Your words were like an afterthought to me and seemed so firmiliar. It was
as if I already knew that and had been contemplating a reduction in smoking
to persue my new found mystery of my inner self. Smoking can help in
wonderful ways but I do find that it becomes to draining and not only in the
energy department. I am curious though how exactly you did it and what sorts
of excercise you are persuing. I have only recently had my first experience
two days ago but I am ready to ride the wave while it is still present. If
you can give ANY help I would be more than accepting of your suggestions.
Thanks again...it seems we are never as alone as we are all one.
-Douglas
Ps- and the answer to your last question was yes ; )
Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely- Voltaire
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 11:42:56 -0500 (EST)
From: CGIAJWATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Exciting Lucid Dream: Encounter With The Sheep-Woman
Message-ID: <970318114238_448493297ATnospamemout18.mail.aol.com>
Warning, this email may offend, delete now and read no further. Writer takes
no resonsability if you do read further. Continue at your own risk.
Wow, great Dream!
Thank you for sharing, as most lucid dreams are buetiful lessons about
ourselves, by your sharing, a version of your dream has entered into our
memories, and now we too will learn from it. Ever think the woman might be
your femenin side, possibly an angle/spirit helper. Many Shamen report an
ongoing sexual encounter lucid dream, theirs however, seem to always be with
an "old hag", and as they have the dream and get better with their powers the
old hag becomes more buetiful, when they are fully realized the woman is
basically at goddess level.
Aaron
PS, my LD orgasms are also full body and dry
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