1997/03/17 20:21
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #100
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 100
Today's Topics:
Reactions - purification of the 6 senses - good and bad
Re: chakras/1, 2, 3
greatings from Denmark
Re: FW: This list
Fw: This forward is actually worth it, trust me. (fwd)
Re: Fw: This forward is actually worth it, trust me. (fwd)
Re: RE: ADMIN: Unsubscribing
To Steve R.
Five important things
Re: Aaron the Magnificent
A very funny post if ever I've known one - more please
Re: Fw: This forward is actually worth it, trust me. (fwd)
Re: A very funny post if ever I've known one - more please
Re: greatings from Denmark
Wisdom exposed . . .
Re: lazy man/grey wizards
Re: Cannabis and Kundalini
Re: direction of subtle energy flow in whole body - views ?
Re: greatings from Denmark
Re: Reactions - purification of the 6 senses - good and bad
Re: Five important things
Re: A very funny post if ever I've known one - more please
Re: A very funny post if ever I've known one - more please
Chain letter
Primal love
Re: ADMIN: Unsubscribing
Re: Wisdom exposed . . .
UNSUBSCRIB
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 13:50:35 +0000
From: Tom Aston <yogi.tomATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, LibraKat11ATnospamaol.com
Subject: Reactions - purification of the 6 senses - good and bad
Message-ID: <1QKIuSArwULzEwrMATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
All these kind of psychic phenomena and sensitivity to various things
are part of a bigger picture. I found that although it was all a bit
haphazard and confusing at the time, that in retrospect I can see a
clear pattern of sdevelopment of the senses - first they became very
sensitive, then gradually refined, then psychic and the - in Buddhist
terms - empty or totally pure. So there is a hierarchy of development of
the senses, including the sixth one, the brain and conditioned mind in
the sense of thoughts and feelings etc.
Just observe, enjoy a little, but don't get attached. Try not to let on
to non-yogis what is happening as people can have pretty low tolerance
of psychic/purification processes that are beyond their own experience.
Alternatively, might end up abusing these psychic phenomena....not a
good idea as can get in deep water very quickly. Why be Uri Geller when
one can be Buddha ?
Purification of intellect and emotions is the best as one is drawn to
the most pure forms of culture and relationship in every aspect of one's
life. Language, thought. feeling, erception, all become a sheer joy to
experience and share with others at every moment, and provide safest
foundation for further meditation.
Even this passes for have to go beyond purity itself if one wants to be
free.
Hope this puts the psychic phenomena and sensitivity in context a
little. Regards Yogi Tom.
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 10:07:48 -0600
From: "Marco Antonio Galvàn Ph.D:" <magj1ATnospamibm.net>
To: <CGIAJWATnospamaol.com>, <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: chakras/1, 2, 3
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Yes, Da love Ananda (so call Adi Da or. Free John) spiritual initiation
start from the Head Chackra, he call it the Descend of Grace.
He distinguish the clasic Kundalini initiation that start from the base of
the spine to his descend of grace from above.
Marco Antonio Galván
Gutemberg 61-6
Polanco
Mexico D:F Mexico
Fax :525-705-5903
Voice: 525-705-44-90 (call collect)
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> From: CGIAJWATnospamaol.com
> To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
> Subject: Re: chakras/1, 2, 3
> Date: Domingo 16 de Marzo de 1997 2:07 PM
>
> Hey, my crown chakra was my first activated chakra, then my third eye and
now
> onto my heart, navel and root.
>
> Do people know which religions/practices start their student's with the
crown
> chakra first? Perhaps I was with that group before, or my advancement in
> past lives led this to open first in this life, or I was used to
spaceyness
> so that came naturally.
>
> thanks
> Aaron :)
> <html><head></head><BODY bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><p><font size=2 color="#000000" face="Arial Narrow">Yes, Da love Ananda (so call Adi Da or. Free John) spiritual initiation start from the Head Chackra, he call it the Descend of Grace.<br><br>He distinguish the clasic Kundalini initiation that start from the base of the spine to his descend of grace from above.<br><br><br><font size=2><br>Marco Antonio Galván<br>Gutemberg 61-6<br>Polanco<br>Mexico D:F Mexico<br><br>Fax :525-705-5903<br>Voice: 525-705-44-90 (call collect)<br><br><br><font color="#0000FF">----------<br>> From: <u>CGIAJWATnospamaol.com</u><br>> To: <u>kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com</u><br>> Subject: Re: chakras/1, 2, 3<br>> Date: Domingo 16 de Marzo de 1997 2:07 PM<br>> <br>> Hey, my crown chakra was my first activated chakra, then my third eye and now<br>> onto my heart, navel and root.<br>> <br>> Do people know which religions/practices start their student's with the crown<br>> chakra first? Perhaps I was with that group before, or my advancement in<br>> past lives led this to open first in this life, or I was used to spaceyness<br>> so that came naturally.<br>> <br>> thanks<br>> Aaron :)<br>> </p>
</font></font></font></body></html>Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 17:21:48 +0100
From: Tobias Ussing <tobiasATnospamcybernet.dk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: greatings from Denmark
Message-Id: <16214810923586ATnospamcybernet.dk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hello everybody!
Just want to send greatings from Denmark. We have a network here, and have
been in contact with about 200 people touched by the kundalini process. We
give information and try to help those who are having problems along the
way. Among other things we have a newsletter that has been out 10 times
now, and we have had an article in the danish medical journal and various
newspapers, so information is spreading.
It´s nice to hear from other parts of the world,
lots of light
Helga
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 09:44:33 -0800
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: Larry Killen <LkillenATnospammsn.com>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: FW: This list
Message-ID: <332D8301.3FEFATnospamdial.pipex.com>
Larry Killen wrote:
> I have a confession of sorts. I sent this mail out this morning with the
> intentions of posting it to the K-list. As you might note below, it
> inadvertantly went to another list I belong to. I'm awaiting the response
> from this very scientific list in regards to my statement.
>
> If the k-list aquires some very strange new members...oh this is too much.
> ESRI is composed of mainly spatial analyst and programmers. They will read
> this over and over and over looking for some logic.....
>
> ----------
> Sent: Sunday, March 16, 1997 9:48 AM
> To: 'ESRI List'
> Subject: This list
>
> For I year I have read this list and until recently was reluctant to show
> myself. I was unsure of the members for some stretched my sensibilities
> beyond it's limits.
> But that was first look. After I started participating I discovered a wealth
> of love here for the likes of nowhere else. I now read every post (when
> possible) and the love flows from my screen. Once I was willing to put my
> prejudice aside a metamorphose took place with either the list or me or both.
> I don't know. But I do feel in tune with it.
> I do hope our species advances in this direction. We so badly need it.
> Maybe the new models are rising. I hope so.
> Larry
Great fun.
An excellent post sent by your higher self to exactly the right place.
The scientific side of you has been sent something that will stretch its
sensibilities.
You are an illustration of your own development.
Now your post:
Why should you be sure of K members?
Most of us are completely unsure of ourselves
but we accept uncertainty.
We are completely unsensible
and we sense this is right
You see the K list too is an illustration of itself
those who deny it
see nothing
those who accept it
gain acceptance
and those ready for change . . .
- it's cracking - - -
~ BUTTERFLY! ~
Most Kind Regards
Lobster
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 08:38:50 -0800
From: Ken McFarland <kenmATnospamOREGON.UOREGON.EDU>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Cc: acsATnospamaol.com
Subject: Fw: This forward is actually worth it, trust me. (fwd)
Message-id: <1.5.4.32.19970317163850.00673084ATnospamoregon.uoregon.edu>
>
>> When you forward it, please include acsATnospamaol.com so they know we are
>> forwarding it.
>>
>> LITTLE JESSICA MYDEK IS SEVEN YEARS OLD AND IS SUFFERING FROM AN
>> ACUTE AND VERY RARE CASE OF CEREBRAL CARCINOMA. THIS CONDITION CAUSES
>> SEVERE MALIGNANT BRAIN TUMORS AND IS A TERMINAL ILLNESS. THE
>> DOCTORS HAVE
>> GIVEN HER SIX MONTHS TO LIVE.
>>
>> AS PART OF HER DYING WISH, SHE WANTED TO START A CHAIN LETTER TO
>> INFORM PEOPLE OF THIS CONDITION AND TO SEND PEOPLE THE MESSAGE TO
>> LIVE LIFE
>> TO THE FULLEST AND ENJOY EVERY MOMENT, A CHANCE THAT SHE WILL NEVER HAVE.
>>
>> FURTHERMORE, THE AMERICAN CANCER SOCIETY AND SEVERAL CORPORATE
>> SPONSORS HAVE AGREED TO DONATE THREE CENTS TOWARD CONTINUING CANCER
>> RESEARCH
>> FOR EVERY NEW PERSON THAT GETS FORWARDED THIS MESSAGE. PLEASE GIVE
>> JESSICA
>> AND ALL CANCER VICTIMS A CHANCE.
>>
>> IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, SEND THEM TO THE AMERICAN CANCER
>> SOCIETY AT ACSATnospamAOL.COM.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
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>
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>
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 10:45:38 -0600 (CST)
From: "Teresa W. Carrigan" <carriganATnospamwebmart.net>
To: Ken McFarland <kenmATnospamOREGON.UOREGON.EDU>, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Fw: This forward is actually worth it, trust me. (fwd)
Message-Id: <199703171645.KAA18580ATnospamns.inw.net>
Sorry, listers. I've seen this on other lists, with later retractions.
It's a hoax.
At 08:38 3/17/97 -0800, Ken McFarland wrote:
>
>>
>>> When you forward it, please include acsATnospamaol.com so they know we are
>>> forwarding it.
>>>
>>> LITTLE JESSICA MYDEK IS SEVEN YEARS OLD AND IS SUFFERING FROM AN
>>> ACUTE AND VERY RARE CASE OF CEREBRAL CARCINOMA. THIS CONDITION CAUSES
>>> SEVERE MALIGNANT BRAIN TUMORS AND IS A TERMINAL ILLNESS. THE
>>> DOCTORS HAVE
>>> GIVEN HER SIX MONTHS TO LIVE.
<etc.>
><> <>< ><> <>< ><> <>< ><> <>< ><> <>< ><> <><
God bless you!
- Teresa
Teresa W. Carrigan "Shared pain is lessened;
carriganATnospamwebmart.net shared joy is increased."
\o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/
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(____ `-----( ) )-----' ____)
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(______/ \ `-.____.-' / \_____)
\ **HUG** /
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 13:37:28 -0500 (EST)
From: STMSFOATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: RE: ADMIN: Unsubscribing
Message-ID: <970317133516_-1605806898ATnospamemout06.mail.aol.com>
Please unsubscribe me from the list.
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 97 14:06:45 EST
From: chelseaATnospamsuperaje.com (Dominic & Maureen Marando)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: To Steve R.
Message-Id: <9703171906.AA23014ATnospamsuperaje.com>
Hey..........you out there anywhere??????
M :-)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 11:50:55 -0800
From: Ken McFarland <kenmATnospamOREGON.UOREGON.EDU>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Five important things
Message-id: <1.5.4.32.19970317195055.00668614ATnospamoregon.uoregon.edu>
Dear Lobster,
Whew! Lobster, you are really pushing my envelope. There is huge wisdom in
the exercise. Thank you. My first thought is that I don't know anything
important. But then the exercise is relativistic so here are the first 5
things that came up. I know there are additional important things, but these
are the ones that came to me first.
1. Hope keeps us going; hope activates the interest-excitement continuum.
2. Certainty of expectation may give joy to hope.
3. Pain arises from knowledge as a result of expectational mismatch
(knowledge structures include the need for love, hopes, desires, beliefs,
meaning, schema, scripts, etc.).
4. Love is the way to hope with certainty.
5. Primal love unfulfilled wounds the emerging self, is painfully
experienced as unloveworthiness of the self or shame, alienates the self
from the self and others, functionally disconnects the self's awareness from
the part of the brain that experiences love, home, and God, and makes it
really hard to connect with anything beyond the self (so says my left brain).
Ken
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 15:04:28 -0500 (EST)
From: CGIAJWATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Aaron the Magnificent
Message-ID: <970317150333_448384907ATnospamemout16.mail.aol.com>
Thanks for the great info, but to all those out their, the fact that my crown
was first to greet me doesn't mean I'm super god-like. Perhaps it's the
difference between open and ripe'n ready to open, I can't tell anymore.
Also, it's taken me almost two years to get even close to what my first
spontaneous K experience was like. Also, my experiences are extremely short
lived. Well, anywho, give thanks for what you've got, most people are trying
to be excited about life via sports and talk shows.
Thanks again Lobster
Aaron :)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 20:08:09 +0000
From: Tom Aston <yogi.tomATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
Subject: A very funny post if ever I've known one - more please
Message-ID: <R+KhlKApSaLzEwN0ATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
In message <332D8301.3FEFATnospamdial.pipex.com>, E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
writes
>Larry Killen wrote:
>
>> I have a confession of sorts. I sent this mail out this morning with the
>> intentions of posting it to the K-list. As you might note below, it
>> inadvertantly went to another list I belong to. I'm awaiting the response
>> from this very scientific list in regards to my statement.
>>
>> If the k-list aquires some very strange new members...oh this is too much.
>> ESRI is composed of mainly spatial analyst and programmers. They will read
>> this over and over and over looking for some logic.....
This is the funniest post I have seen so far...I know just how funny
because I have run across scientists myself who are not just unable to
understand where I'm coming from, but feel an uncontrollable need to try
and eradicate the kundalini experience and perhaps me too from the face
of the earth as if it was some kind of poison or virus. They just cannot
handle the thought, let alone the experience that there is an irrational
cosmic force within us all just waiting to tear the ego to pieces. So if
we get a positive response, it would be quite an event......
More inappropriate postings please, maybe we should draw out the poison
of the reductive scientific mind by infiltrating lists all over the
net...a kind of spiritual subversion Vietcong style. Any thoughts out
there ? - Regards Yogi Tom
>> ----------
>> Sent: Sunday, March 16, 1997 9:48 AM
>> To: 'ESRI List'
>> Subject: This list
>>
>> For I year I have read this list and until recently was reluctant to show
>> myself. I was unsure of the members for some stretched my sensibilities
>> beyond it's limits.
>> But that was first look. After I started participating I discovered a wealth
>> of love here for the likes of nowhere else. I now read every post (when
>> possible) and the love flows from my screen. Once I was willing to put my
>> prejudice aside a metamorphose took place with either the list or me or both.
>> I don't know. But I do feel in tune with it.
>> I do hope our species advances in this direction. We so badly need
>it.
>> Maybe the new models are rising. I hope so.
>> Larry
>
>
>Great fun.
>An excellent post sent by your higher self to exactly the right place.
>The scientific side of you has been sent something that will stretch its
>sensibilities.
>You are an illustration of your own development.
>Now your post:
>Why should you be sure of K members?
>Most of us are completely unsure of ourselves
>but we accept uncertainty.
>We are completely unsensible
>and we sense this is right
>You see the K list too is an illustration of itself
>those who deny it
>see nothing
>those who accept it
>gain acceptance
>and those ready for change . . .
>- it's cracking - - -
>~ BUTTERFLY! ~
>
>
>Most Kind Regards
>Lobster
>
--
Tom Aston
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 13:47:38 -0800
From: Krishnamurthy Ramalingam <krisATnospamfsc.fujitsu.com>
To: Ken McFarland <kenmATnospamOREGON.UOREGON.EDU>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, acsATnospamaol.com
Subject: Re: Fw: This forward is actually worth it, trust me. (fwd)
Message-ID: <332DBBFA.3178ATnospamfsc.fujitsu.com>
Ken McFarland wrote:
>
> >
> >> When you forward it, please include acsATnospamaol.com so they know we are
> >> forwarding it.
> >>
> >> LITTLE JESSICA MYDEK IS SEVEN YEARS OLD AND IS SUFFERING FROM AN
> >> ACUTE AND VERY RARE CASE OF CEREBRAL CARCINOMA. THIS CONDITION CAUSES
> >> SEVERE MALIGNANT BRAIN TUMORS AND IS A TERMINAL ILLNESS. THE
> >> DOCTORS HAVE
> >> GIVEN HER SIX MONTHS TO LIVE.
> >>
> >> AS PART OF HER DYING WISH, SHE WANTED TO START A CHAIN LETTER TO
> >> INFORM PEOPLE OF THIS CONDITION AND TO SEND PEOPLE THE MESSAGE TO
> >> LIVE LIFE
> >> TO THE FULLEST AND ENJOY EVERY MOMENT, A CHANCE THAT SHE WILL NEVER HAVE.
> >>
> >> FURTHERMORE, THE AMERICAN CANCER SOCIETY AND SEVERAL CORPORATE
> >> SPONSORS HAVE AGREED TO DONATE THREE CENTS TOWARD CONTINUING CANCER
> >> RESEARCH
> >> FOR EVERY NEW PERSON THAT GETS FORWARDED THIS MESSAGE. PLEASE GIVE
> >> JESSICA
> >> AND ALL CANCER VICTIMS A CHANCE.
> >>
> >> IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, SEND THEM TO THE AMERICAN CANCER
> >> SOCIETY AT ACSATnospamAOL.COM.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
I checked the ACS homepage and this is a HOAX. Please check the ACS
homepage.
-Krishnamurthy
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 19:32:49 -0800
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: jan.watsonATnospamsympatico.ca
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: A very funny post if ever I've known one - more please
Message-ID: <332E0CE1.5F7ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
Dear Yogi Tom:
> More inappropriate postings please, maybe we should draw out the poison
> of the reductive scientific mind by infiltrating lists all over the
> net...a kind of spiritual subversion Vietcong style. Any thoughts out
> there?
Well done.
Was thinking this and then you said it (it only slipped my mind)
Just remember spiritual subversion can only be done as an act
of compassion.
You are not trying to harm people or interfere with their sleep
patterns.
If anybody wishes to follow this path they need to be very thick skinned
(or shelled as in Lobster)
You must not engage in any abuse, intolerance or knee jerk negativity.
So where to start;
Well how about placing this (or something similar)
somewhere and telling us of your results:
Dear Friends,
Thank you for all your kind messages
none of which I understand
Many of you will probably die
but not this week
Anyway many condolonces on your future death.
Perhaps the preceding is not relevant
but the following is the same.
Many people have talked to trees
but they grow anyway
from this I would like to remind people
that it is no accident
that they accidently came into being
If you have any proof of non-existence
please ignore your self
otherwise your cooperation is appreciated
but not essentail
We wish you every success
in your further failure to comprehend
and every opportunity
for real success.
ARC
http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/place/vv60/
Most Kind Regards
(the subversive) Lobster
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 16:32:48 +0000
From: Tom Aston <yogi.tomATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, Tobias Ussing <tobiasATnospamcybernet.dk>
Subject: Re: greatings from Denmark
Message-ID: <JjM3CDAwIXLzEwffATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
In message <16214810923586ATnospamcybernet.dk>, Tobias Ussing
<tobiasATnospamcybernet.dk> writes
>Hello everybody!
Greetings from London Helga - am in media myself, so.....
Why not tell us about how the medical journal looked at kundalini. I for
one would be interested to hear what science made of kundalini. Await
reply....Yogi Tom
>Just want to send greatings from Denmark. We have a network here, and have
>been in contact with about 200 people touched by the kundalini process. We
>give information and try to help those who are having problems along the
>way. Among other things we have a newsletter that has been out 10 times
>now, and we have had an article in the danish medical journal and various
>newspapers, so information is spreading.
>It´s nice to hear from other parts of the world,
>
>lots of light
>
> Helga
>
--
Tom Aston
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 20:18:43 -0800
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
CC: jan.watsonATnospamsympatico.ca
Subject: Wisdom exposed . . .
Message-ID: <332E17A3.1F84ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 19:38:11 -0500 (EST)
From: CGIAJWATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: lazy man/grey wizards
Message-ID: <970317193705_1483848037ATnospamemout02.mail.aol.com>
Terry brings up a good point
If Nirvana is infinite, perminant bliss, unconditional love, then is it a
middle path, is it possible? K fills me with infinite bliss and
unconditional love, but my K last for only shot times. I would assume that a
perminatly raised K would make the sensations perminant and therefore bring
"Nirvana". When training, especially with the psychic/wiccan energy usage,
both my energy, and the dark/light aspects of the energy would go in cycles.
I now have a light but steady base of pleasant energy occasioned by more
intense energy. I almost never have dark energy anymore and it makes me feel
alittle incomplete, like it's a part of me, and I should draw from it
accordingly, but that could contradict alot of how I view my use of energy,
my attemps to energize the light aspect.
Perhaps this is what grey wizards go through when they try to become white
wizards. Any suggestions, did I move to white wizard too soon. I fear that
if I go back to grey, my energy could be too high and I could become a dark
wizard. Mortals die, so nothing matters, but nothing matters means we should
feel free, freedom invites pleasure, true pleasure requires love,
unconditional love is/leads to Nirvana, I'm here for Nirvana, K brings
Nirvana, K requires energy, dark energy is abundant, nothing matters,
ect......
Lotsa Love
Aaron :-|
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 19:38:19 -0500 (EST)
From: CGIAJWATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Cannabis and Kundalini
Message-ID: <970317193659_886483940ATnospamemout18.mail.aol.com>
It was probably my favorite drug, battling out with shrooms.
It definatly effects your energy, it helps you release/feel you energy
better. Try smoking and doing tai-chi, or slow moving energy work. The main
problems are that it's illegal, and your energy is almost untouchable when
your out. Try getting your easiest chakra going when your high, then repeat
when you've come down. After awhile, reduce your smoking, but try to get the
chakra going anyway. It takes a long time but it's worth it. It's still
nice to smoke now and then, and since my energy level is higher without the
smoke, and my tollerance has fallen, the energy work is fantastic. I've been
there, and I know how tough it is to slow down with the smoking. I was
pretty bad about it and smoked repetedly throughout the day and night. Cost
me a fortune, and I was getting some pretty cazy deals. Well, anyway, try to
replace your drug induced highs with self induced highs, it's a much cleaner
trip, and much easier to deal with others.
Aaron :)
Ps. Are you smoking while reading this!!!
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 20:41:05 -0500 (EST)
From: DChern1123ATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: direction of subtle energy flow in whole body - views ?
Message-ID: <970317203923_806019319ATnospamemout12.mail.aol.com>
Dear Tom, Ithink I was taught to satart yoga asanas on the right side (ladies
start with the left) With respect to the warm up (pushing the blood up
towards the heart )
right arm first, then right foot and whole leg ,then left arm ,left foot and
leg.Then all the rest of them.Interesting that in the Orthodox religion the
men stand ,and I mean stand, on the right and ladies on the left.
While "my" K starts with the left foot it's in it's infancy
and I've never concluded anthing from it,.although now I suppose it could BE
my feminine side, energy wise if that makes any sense.The rest of the K
energy is really wild . Did you ever have any experiences with small muscle
pulls or tears just below the cervical vertebrea where the shoulder is or a
little below, usually on the left side.No matter how carefull I am ,for 20
years I had a series of these pains there ,usually last for three days.
Thanks for your input. dchern
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 20:43:58 -0500 (EST)
From: DChern1123ATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: greatings from Denmark
Message-ID: <970317204308_1614281597ATnospamemout15.mail.aol.com>
Thank you Helga
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 20:45:05 -0500 (EST)
From: DChern1123ATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Reactions - purification of the 6 senses - good and bad
Message-ID: <970317204200_-2107302917ATnospamemout12.mail.aol.com>
Right on
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 20:49:51 -0500 (EST)
From: DChern1123ATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Five important things
Message-ID: <970317204855_1550966248ATnospamemout02.mail.aol.com>
Give up all hope , the interest excitement complex keeps you coming back and
coming back and coming back.Vedas not me.
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 20:53:07 -0500 (EST)
From: DChern1123ATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: A very funny post if ever I've known one - more please
Message-ID: <970317205155_1184008973ATnospamemout05.mail.aol.com>
Ready for a change.Excellent
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 20:55:14 -0500 (EST)
From: DChern1123ATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: A very funny post if ever I've known one - more please
Message-ID: <970317205513_-1739697390ATnospamemout20.mail.aol.com>
Did you just make that up?
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 18:02:16 -0800
From: Ken McFarland <kenmATnospamOREGON.UOREGON.EDU>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Chain letter
Message-id: <1.5.4.32.19970318020216.00686180ATnospamoregon.uoregon.edu>
Appropriate shame on me reinforces the rules
I am learning
Never again
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 18:07:01 -0800
From: Ken McFarland <kenmATnospamOREGON.UOREGON.EDU>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Primal love
Message-id: <1.5.4.32.19970318020701.00663e94ATnospamoregon.uoregon.edu>
Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Dear Lobster,
First, my self has been in hiding for over a half-century
That seems long enough
It is time to come out
Post away—I will tame my fear of shame and learn to live with it
I wrote:
>> 5. Primal love unfulfilled wounds the emerging self, is painfully
>> experienced as unloveworthiness of the self or shame, alienates the self
>> from the self and others, functionally disconnects the self's awareness from
>> the part of the brain that experiences love, home, and God, and makes it
>> really hard to connect with anything beyond the self (so says my left
>>brain).
Then you wrote:
>1. Your self is wanting to emerge - Right?
>2. What 1-5 (Again) makes you WORTY OF even a little LOVE
>(these 5 will not be posted to the forum except with your permission)
The primal love of which I speak, is manifest in the symbiotic merger that
takes place in the mother-neonate relationship and carries the child onto
its emotional life trajectory. When this love is lacking, the child
experiences the event as shame. The neuroarchetecture of the brain is
affected, as is brain chemistry, in a way that blocks access to the
emotional systems involved in feeling the presents of something greater than
self or outside of self. This dynamic begins in infancy and the results are
very enduring, usually affecting one´s entire life. Empathy is compromised
and it makes it difficult to love anyone, beginning with the self.
The answer to your question is Yes, my self does want to emerge
The part that seems to be in hiding is the spiritual
I will hug a tree and tell it I love it out loud (when no one is around)
Sincerely,
Ken
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 21:24:32 -0500 (EST)
From: ANGDOC2ATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: ADMIN: Unsubscribing
Message-ID: <970317212432_-1939743360ATnospamemout06.mail.aol.com>
Please unsubscribe me from the list
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 18:31:21 -0800 (PST)
From: Mary <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net>
To: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Wisdom exposed . . .
Message-Id: <199703180231.SAA27264ATnospamgridsat.thegrid.net>
At 08:18 PM 3/17/97 -0800, E Jason wrote:
>
>
Ah! At last!
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 21:32:45 -0500
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UNSUBSCRIB PLEASE TAKE ME OFF YOUR LIST I DO NOT KNOW HOW I GOT ON
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