1997/03/02 12:26
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #82
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 82
Today's Topics:
Re: Tantric Question
Crystal Source
New address
Re: Crystal Source
silence
Re: silence -- ouch.
Re: silence
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 12:03:50 -0500 (EST)
From: LwMema3ATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Tantric Question
Message-ID: <970301120349_-1038216788ATnospamemout06.mail.aol.com>
Dear list members,
I need some additional information, any help provided would be great. I am
knee deep in reseach about Tantrics and working on a research paper for one
of my classes at university it is due in less than a week (I work better
under pressure...) Anyway, if anyone has any sources or specific information
worht sharing please email it to me privately... and if I use it in my paper,
I will give credit in my Bibliography. Anything would be of help on Tantric
practices, beliefs, relati0ns to Kundalini, principles, web sites to look at,
support for or against... whatever, I have several books I am working with
but I just thought that with the many conversations here about Tantrics that
some might be willing to share. Thank you in advance!
Light and Love,
Lori
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 14:37:41 -0600
From: sgh8977ATnospammail.utexas.edu (Steven G. Harms)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Crystal Source
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I was wondering if anyone has a mail order or internet resource which sells
crystals.
Thanks
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Form is no-form...There is no eye, no ear, no nose, no mouth...no dharma.
The Heart Sutra
"You plan the wars you masters of men plan the wars and point the way and
we will point the gun."
Dalton Trumbo, "johnny got his gun"
Date: Sat, 01 Mar 1997 13:56:59 -0500
From: nannuATnospammacconnect.com
To: Kundalini-l <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: New address
Message-ID: <33187BF8.7510ATnospammacconnect.com>
' nannuATnospaminetw.net ' has moved to ' nannuATnospammacconnect.com '
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 16:27:10 -0500 (EST)
From: AGANGES9ATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Crystal Source
Message-ID: <970301162710_-1373307721ATnospamemout06.mail.aol.com>
Inreference to crystals and other stones for meditations ect....here is a
link to a supplier on the net>>>>click on the blue name and your there, I
personally buy mine from a person that mines them hisself 3x's a year and is
very spiritual in his removing of them>>>>> <A HREF="aol://4344:216.dir_2596.
1910063.519371433">Nature Company, The</A> <<<<<< click on it and your there.
Tess
Date: Sat, 01 Mar 1997 22:44:00 -0800
From: Jan Watson <jan.watsonATnospamsympatico.ca>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: silence
Message-ID: <331921B0.4955ATnospamsympatico.ca>
Hi all
Last night, I lay quietly beneath a mound of feathers protecting me from the real
world that threatened to infringe upon the room I call 'sanctuary'. K has been
unusually strong lately, and yesterday I was so busy, I let down my guard and
forgot to censor my words at work. Backdrop: When K is strong and I am removed
from my ego, I tend see images as I am talking to people that explain to me the
real intent of their words or that explain what is going on beneath their surface
that they themselves may or may not know. I'm usually very careful not to reveal
this to anyone. When I'm careful, I get comments like, "How insightful... boy,
that was dead on... - all within the normal range of normal experience.
Not yesterday. Yesterday, I made the mistake of speaking words that revealed my
'sometimes' abilities to a male staff member. He'll be silent. He's young and new
and too afraid of not being believed anyway, but the pain in me was great. Most
days, it matters little to me what others think of me. Most days, I just do what
needs doing, smile and move on. Yesterday, the pain was for the words that could
not be spoken openly to ally the young man's fears. It was pain for a society
that is too afraid of itself to not be afraid of me. It was pain for all those
like me who are not as strong and hurt too often because they too, are hiding.
"Don't hide!" I hear in some minds. But I know, I know that you can't teach in a
highschool in a conservative little Canadian community and keep your job for long
and I'm a single parent with 2 little kids and 2 disabled parents to look after.
I'm neither brave enough nor foolish enough to speak freely.
And so, in my warm bed, in my sanctuary, I'm safe from any words I might
inadvertently say. This is my special realm where I speak to those who know more
than I. Here, I ask those higher than I to teach me openly, and feel the
exhilarating thrill of my own greatness and smallnes. Here, those universal
forces, the angels, the lightbeings, the evolved minds, light itself - none judge
me, all give all I can absorb. Here the silence is not deafening; here, the
silence comes from between the heart beats of the universe itself! What a great
place to be.
jan
Date: Sat, 01 Mar 1997 20:12:33 -0800
From: Omega <omegaATnospampacific.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: silence -- ouch.
Message-ID: <3318FE31.6794ATnospampacific.net>
Hi Jan,
> Last night, I lay quietly beneath a mound of feathers protecting me from the real
> world that threatened to infringe upon the room I call 'sanctuary'. K has been
> unusually strong lately, and yesterday I was so busy, I let down my guard and
> forgot to censor my words at work. Backdrop: When K is strong and I am removed
> from my ego, I tend see images as I am talking to people that explain to me the
> real intent of their words or that explain what is going on beneath their surface
> that they themselves may or may not know. I'm usually very careful not to reveal
> this to anyone. When I'm careful, I get comments like, "How insightful... boy,
> that was dead on... - all within the normal range of normal experience.
> Not yesterday. Yesterday, I made the mistake of speaking words that revealed my
> 'sometimes' abilities to a male staff member. He'll be silent. He's young and new
> and too afraid of not being believed anyway, but the pain in me was great. Most
> days, it matters little to me what others think of me. Most days, I just do what
> needs doing, smile and move on. Yesterday, the pain was for the words that could
> not be spoken openly to ally the young man's fears. It was pain for a society
> that is too afraid of itself to not be afraid of me. It was pain for all those
> like me who are not as strong and hurt too often because they too, are hiding.
>
> "Don't hide!" I hear in some minds. But I know, I know that you can't teach in a
> highschool in a conservative little Canadian community and keep your job for long
> and I'm a single parent with 2 little kids and 2 disabled parents to look after.
> I'm neither brave enough nor foolish enough to speak freely.
Your story really fleshes out the pain of being silent. It's gives a far stronger
insight than when we all talk about such pain in abstract. Perhaps this slip will
contribute to the awakening of that male staff member, but still by having to hide
and scurry about in secrecy we know something of the terror of a mouse that sees the
talons of an eagle, and thus we seek our sanctuary.
> And so, in my warm bed, in my sanctuary, I'm safe from any words I might
> inadvertently say. This is my special realm where I speak to those who know more
> than I. Here, I ask those higher than I to teach me openly, and feel the
> exhilarating thrill of my own greatness and smallnes. Here, those universal
> forces, the angels, the lightbeings, the evolved minds, light itself - none judge
> me, all give all I can absorb. Here the silence is not deafening; here, the
> silence comes from between the heart beats of the universe itself! What a great
> place to be.
Oh to be in a world like you describe with your lightbeings. Perhaps I can deliver
a small amount of hope here. In chemistry we sometimes see that when a solution
sensitive to the ratio of acid and alkali is titrated (added to a drop at a time)
it may absorb thousands of drops with no apparent change, and then upon the addition
of ONE additional drop, totally change its color or any number of other attributes;
and so too as the seminal influence of Spirit falls into our world a drop at a time.
Who in 1986 would have predicted the fall of the Berlin wall in 1989, and the end
of the Soviet Union in 1991? And yet that is the nature of these kind of changes.
--
In the Ecstatic Theatre of Life -- Omega
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 1997 12:28:50 -0700 (MST)
From: Jeri Edwards <jmdeATnospammontana.com>
To: Jan Watson <jan.watsonATnospamsympatico.ca>
cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: silence
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.93.970302121956.14864C-100000ATnospamuncle>
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Jan
How incredibly powerful were your words! I ached a familiar ache for you
in your aloneness, knowing exactly how you feel, knowing what a gift our
sanctuaries and friends who understand are. Knowing all too well the fears
and restraint.
Courage, dear sister.
You are not alone.
Jeri
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