having the most intense experiences of late :). I was wondering if any of you
could shed some *light* on what's going on with me.
My third eye is WIDE
open. Through my regular eyes I'm seeing auras and all kinds of cool stuff. When
I close my eyes now, I don't always see the golden light, although that's there
a lot, too. I've been seeing the most AMAZING colors filling the inside of my
head--mainly intense purple, intense navy blue, amazing sky blue, and the most
scarlet red I could ever imagine going out infinity. Once in a while I see a
shape floating in the corner of my mind. And sometimes I see the most incredible
patterns I've *never* seen!
I'm not tripping or anything, so anybody
have a clue what this could mean? The vibe's wonderful. Granted, I don't want to
get totally locked into this stuff, but it seems to be really neat icing on the
*********** ME TOO! Amazing, incredible, indescribably
intricate, detailed, beautiful patterns that divide and multiply and swirl
about in colour sometimes - like a cosmic kalaiescope with the quality of
They first started for me after my 5th depressive breakdown
(long dark night) when I experienced a kind of union of male/female, with
lots of syncs, mythological archtypes etc. That was 4 years ago - I see
them every night, though not always clearly. They seem to correlate
with the glowing of my crown, third eye, heart, throat chakras - they seem to
set each other off as if all 4 interlinked.
I don't what if anything
it means - don't know much about chakras.
************** These are called "phosphene"
patterns and they often show up in native art relating to Shamanic travel to
the dream world, and in 60's acid inspired op-art. They are the wallpaper
pattern of the portal to the dreamtime, the boundary between the conscious
and unconscious mind, and the veil of forgetfullness, itself. It is like the
tunnel leading to the light, except it is representative of the duality of
light and dark and the endless creativity of colors that they manifest
together. Look at Australian aboriginal art relating to the Dreamtime, and
you will see these patterns.
>They first started for me after my
5th depressive breakdown (long dark >night) when I experineced a kind of
union of male/female, with lots of >syncs, mythological archtypes
etc. That was 4 years ago - I see them every >night, though not
always clearly. They seem to correlate with the glowing >of my
crown, third eye, heart, throat chakras - they seem to set each other >off
as if all 4 interlinked.
Yes. You had started to integrate the dualities,
conscious and unconscious mind after the breakdown caused the ego to
fracture and fragment.
I used to watch these patterns as a game to fall
asleep, when I was a small child. My own private fireworks show. It was not
till I was an adult reading about Shamanism that I understood the
relationship between falling asleep watching them, and the awful night
terrors I had, of a big shadow monster that destroyed me over and over
again. I would wake to the nightmare still continuing, my room filled
with malevolent presences that had me petrified to even move. Every ghost
for miles around must have been attracted to my terror. Finally I learned
to approach the Shadow monster with unconditional love... and that is when
the dreams got worse, because I became the voiceless shadow monster that
destroyed any who feared me. By then I was old enough to know to say my
prayers, and I prayed for the dreams to end till they did. Rather, they went
underground until my Shamanic initiation with Chacmool jump started the
The monster is the Portal Guardian of the dreamtime, also known
as the Jungian Shadow, Lucifer, and the angel with the fiery sword that
guards Eden, so that only those who are without fear, may pass. It is death,
and fear of death, it is karma reflected to keep away those who are not
ready to pass into the light. It protects you from being overwhelmed with
the content of the unconscious.
Death is the doorway to the light,
and kundalites go through that door at ego-death, instead of physical
death... and eventually beyond that too, and into the clear light of the
Void. The Portal Guardian is a being of the brightest light, but
movement into duality that comes of reflecting our karma causes it to show
up as a negative image of darkest shadow. It is unconditional love,
manifesting as a reflection of fear so that we may see what we fear, and
have the option to use our free will to choose to love.
Kundalites do not meet the Portal guardian as a being, as such... although
many experience the lovely patterns of the portal itself. Kundalites
typically may dream of death showing up as person or entity, but having your
demon/shadow show up separate from you as an ever present spiritual
teacher/guide is usually part of Shaman training. Not an experience I would
wish on anybody!!
You can think of it this way: you are passing through
the tunnel to the dreamtime, just as NDE's describe travelling though the
tunnel of light. The world of dreams is the safe experiential schoolroom
where we learn lessons about the illusion of duality. The upper chakras
represent the universe of non duality.. where every duality shows its
reflection. Your third eye is open so you can watch the trip.
is more on this, if you search the archives.
my vision has very gradually been changing, and
thought i would ask if anyone has some insight, no pun intented. the
main thing happening is that more and more i am seeing these benevolent
spots (sometimes they are deep purple midnight-star-like and sometimes they
are bright star-like. they kindof gently appear and then disappear, they do
not change positions or move around really, and when i try to look at them
i do not mind them, i kindof like them (they are not
irritating or distracting to one's reading like floaters), and my fairy
imagination like to treat them like they are the hints of some light beings
that are playing around me, or just saying hi. else i could just be going
anyone have this happen??
************* I have the
exact same experience. I have mediated to it, attributed it to it, them
being -spirits, masters, teachers, guides, higher self. I can
definitely feel an awareness with it – benevolent, caring,. I have
mediated and felt the Star sending me love, filling me with K shivers. When
I have found a way of focusing on it behind my eye lids– but focusing on
those “stars”, purple pulsating in and out was very meditative and
peaceful. They are vast, taking up all my vision and I find that I loose
thought. There are times when I focus on a white ceiling lying down and I can
see the pulse with my eyes open. If there is a light fixture hanging or
mounted, sometimes it will disappear, but I have to focus my eyes out, not
blink – hard to do. But mostly happens when its dark, ready to go to
sleep. Nice way to fall asleep too. : )
***************** We have
been talking about spots, the light of other worlds that we see behind our
Since talking about it ,these ethereal, astral lights, it has
dominated my pre-bed “vision”. Last night was one of the most intense
experience I have had with K in years (aren’t they all though), very vivid
and beautiful, but enough that I turned the bed light on before falling a
I laid down and saw the swirls and pulses behind my lids. I can
and do feel many presence’s in my life since K started many years ago. I am
not fully comfortable with it because I am not sure if they are spirits or
what have you – but last night I saw more distinctly then ever before – I
turned over in my bed and opened my eyes. The room was swirling with lights,
sparks, energy, movement. Super bright, tiny blue "nova's", intense sparks
of reds. Energy moving in the room like watching tall grass moving in a
wheat field during a windy day. I saw and began to feel distinct forms, not
shapes of people, but not so indistinct as to be blobs – I felt “them”.
Standing around my bed, kneeling in front of me on my bed. I heard the
soft voice of my own mind, their telepathy telling me not to be afraid and
to find comfort with this.
And then I heard a voice, greet me, one that
was SO FAMILER TO ME. The one I have been talking to my whole life but that
I have not heard or paid attention to often, but knew was their. I
felt its presence and its love, it / me, telling me – I love you, I will
always be there, I am you, you are me. Etc.. – I started to cry, a good hard
cry, a cathartic release I did not know I had in me. The voice was familer,
comfortable, full of love and compassion, I called it Christ or God, but
that does not come close. The lights, the swirling the energy in the room
intensified, grew stronger.
I turned on the light by my bed. I got
freaked out. Its just not normal, its not that I don’t feel safe.
room was a mass of colors, little sparks streaking in and out of “vision”,
swirls in the air. Nothing was static in my room, the air was alive with
movement. My typical day of sight is like that, I see the gray/haze of
energy moving around, but not intensely. This was a fireworks show.
stared at the ceiling and focused on the light fixture (which was off) and
saw the “star”, yellow, blue energy pulsing ,forming a web hazy but distinct
but pulsating from the center out, very bright on the whole
ceiling – very very strong pulse, as bright as the sun, filled the whole
room – it was really cool!! I focused on in until I could not see past it,
could not see the ceiling. I remember vague posts on the old k-list I was on
about that phenomena, but don’t remember what it was about.
last night was intense, pleasurable and vivid, this is not the first time
that has “happened”. I could probably make that happen every night.
freaks me out, more than a little, since I have no idea what it is that I am
doing, or even if I should be. I don’t know what to make of the “spirit
world” and have never met to many people who wish to talk about that
particular mystery in to much detail. Why do I need to turn the light on, I’m
safe right? I know that the presence’s I feel are benevolent and that the
overwhelming presence of it all is God (or my version be it goddess or god
or the earth),
I know, as a rule, we should not linger on the phenomena
associated with K – let them pass through, recognize and acknowledge , but
man, they can me some crazy things that we feel and see.
to watch, special to be a part of – but what the hell is it? Someone once
told me that their perception of god was this miniscule part of the pie, a
sliver and that we can never truly know. I though of that last night. Are
these questions I am asking (besides the one on safety) even worth asking
when seeking out answers just isn’t as important anymore?
I apologize if
I am babbling but its kind of like masturbating for the first time in your
life, you gotto wonder if you broke something, but its SO
EXCITING. ************ I see these too, mostly blue, sometimes purple,
pink or white. Lately it's been a cascade of tiny sparkley blue specks.
In addition to that I've been seeing vivid colors in peoples mouths
when they're speaking to me (has anyone else had this happen?).
also thought it might be an eye problem and checked it out with the
optometrist. Apart from looking at me as though I was nuts - he said
my eyesight had actually improved since my last check
**************** my intuition has given me a similar feeling,
that they are not just beautiful spots, but that they feel very benevolent
and like a wonderful omen, kindof like the feeling of the aurora borealis,
very peaceful and gentle and powerful and beautiful. i usually feel some
sort of loving exchange, they have a very calming and magical effect, like i
am being cared for.
sometimes i feel silly for feeling so happy that
they are here, when my doubting mind has no idea what or who they are or
even if they are just a play of light, but then i just go straight back to
feeling wonderfully glad that i am seeing these midnight stars and twinkle
glad you, E, and others are having a similar experience.
seems too lovely to be the only one!!
********** Hmm.. the talk of
visual patterns people experience has me wondering some things. I do
have visual experiences of a spiritual nature but I am particularly
interested in internal light, which I have not known too much of. I am
thinking of auras and chakras (although clearly these are not exclusively
I have occasionally seen sudden very
fast white flashes, or sometimes I am not sure they are flashes but extremely
quick flurries of (information? images?). Mostly just like really quick
lightning though.. except a meaningful light.
But like visual
patterns and fractal things that occur in my head dont quite seem directly
related to "light". I am kinda wondering about auras, I wonder if we
might say they are "actual light", as in, actual phenomena that our visual
cortex picks up -- except until we are spiritually ready, our brain will not
interpret it or translate it, or know to "overlay" it with the other
images. But I wonder if it indeed seems very much a phenomenon
(despite the obvious spiritual/subjective qualities of experiencing it), or
if it somehow feels more like.. overlaid somehow?
flipping through a book called (The Healing Light, possibly) and the lady
described how she first became aware of the light energy.. she sat under the
sky and stared for a long time, and started to see pulsating white things
flying around in the sky.
The most meaningful
light-related feelings seem to not relate to the color, but rather to their
occurrence on an expanded visual field, they seem to reach me spritually when
they, even on this expanded visual field, wrap around me and seem to be
entering me, but there they are just felt and dont feel "seen" at all.
Other peculiar visual things.. I have a very distinct light that I
can often catch slowly moving or shifting when I close my eye. It is
sort of a ball, it feels spherical somehow.. maybe because of the coloring,
it is much like if you press your eyeball.. sort of a ball of green
surrounded by red maybe, it just seems to move with a little bit of
"will". I often see it moving on the right edge of my visual field,
down around to under my eye.
often when I do manage to visualize colors or "be" colors, it seems not very
visual at all.. like I may still be aware of a general blackness/nothingness,
from which I consider the "concept" of blue or red or whatever.
As for the fractals and stuff.. I have experienced lots of that,
very directly visual-feeling, many green and vegetative, also
some flame-related. it is interesting how fractals occur, how closely
related it is to feedback patterns. One of the key things which happens
in meditation, seems to be neurological feedback, and the most key one
seems to be awareness of awareness, self-reference (the essence of fractals),
I think we reach centers of a very tightly cycling simple thought
or non-thought and this is what enables bliss.. also this extremely
tight cycle or oscillation, electrical in nature, seems very suggestive
of light, of the possibility of recieving or producing light.
********** Not long ago somebody somewhere through so-me media of
exchange said there were basically three basic, reliable natural sources of
light. The Sun, fire, and lightening. Then they offered a fourth source of
natural light, and that is the light produced in the dream state. I suspect
that what people see in their chakras and such has this source. I don't gnow
this for sure, and for sure I don't care. As long as it's there for me I
accept it with so-me gratitude, but even that in an attempt to be politically
correct with whatever powers that be. I never gnow for sure. ;-)
of my most me-more-able dream/visions had me walking on what seemed to be
some dark, distant place that reminded me of the salt flats in
Utah. Abrupt knolls and hills broke through the wide flat ground and seemed
like lonely shadow islands stark against the purple glow of the moonless
The surface I was walking on had a dark thin crust on it. Each
step I took broke through the crust and my foot made a depression through
that crust like crunching through ice-covered snow. Beneath that dark crust
was a softer material that glowed with a golden light. It glowed
beautifully beneath that dark crust, and seemed alive.
Then, I leaped
into the air and began to fly at about six foot above the ground. I circled
around and looked at my golden footprints and traced them back to where I
started walking... and they ended in nothingness.
Suddenly, in my
confusion, I was enveloped in this brilliant, radiant white light that
produced an ecstasy of indescribable
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