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Recieved: 2003/04/16 22:37
Subject: Re: [K-list] Kundalini and magic
From: Rick Mayweather


On 2003/04/16 22:37, Rick Mayweather posted thus to the K-list:




There are 3 bases of Kundalini, so perhaps Kabbalah works with activating
the base Kundalini in the Sahasrara Chakra, loosely around the Kether
Sephiroth I believe, the heart and the root (Malkuth) and somehow
directing/releasing them all at once under will.

Sephiroth system acting on the "lower" astral body whereas the Chakras are
in the etheric body.

If these 3 bases exist in all 4 bodies it would explain a lot.

Why is it not recommended to regulate the flow? Is it too much energy?
What do you do with it?

Rick

>From: "Christopher Williams" <christopher AT_NOSPAM planetbiotec.co.uk>
>To:
><Druout AT_NOSPAM aol.com>,<rick_mayweather AT_NOSPAM hotmail.com>,<k-list AT_NOSPAM kundalini-gateway.org>
>Subject: Re: [K-list] Kundalini and magic
>Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 23:05:57 +0100
>
>
>
>Hi guys,
>
>If you want to know about the kabbalah and magic then the source to read is
>"The Golden Dawn" by Israel Regardie published by Llewellyn Publications.
>
>This is a much more structured approach then K and has techniques that I
>suspect a K person could use, such as the Angelic Tablets and the Enochian
>System.
>
>Some years ago this subject came up for a lot of discussion on the old
>K-list and the idea that I remember from that time was that K rises up from
>below while the Kabbalah energy comes down from above. Mix the two and it
>seems you get an intense circulation which one list member at the time said
>she had done and was not recommending it to anyone.
>
>I tried and got nowhere but that was par for the course for me at that
>time.
>
>The basic direction of all the rituals in the Golden Dawn is to lift
>consciousness to the level of the gods and goddesses. The form of
>gods/goddess used is that of the Egypt hierarchy and the rituals cover
>things such as forming a cloud to ensure invisablity or there is a
>wonderful
>Requiem ritual but these are all very English and formal so you could take
>the form and use your own words. Unless you have read the book or come
>across these rituals before please do not assume you "know" what they are
>like, the chances are you would be wrong.
>
>ciao
>
>Christopher
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <Druout AT_NOSPAM aol.com>
>To: <rick_mayweather AT_NOSPAM hotmail.com>; <k-list AT_NOSPAM kundalini-gateway.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 10:31 PM
>Subject: Re: [K-list] Kundalini and magic
>
>
> >
> >
> > Rick writes:
> >
> > >Are you saying that by working with the Kabbalah you can awaken a
>specific
> > >Siddhi of choice as opposed to Kundalini Yoga whereby some may just
>happen?
> >
> > Dear Rick,
> >
> > I know very little about the Kabbalah. I suspect, however that the
>energy
>is
> > pretty much the same.
> >
> > >Is'nt the goal of both for self realisation or is it in the eye of the
> > >beholder?
> >
> > I would guess so.
> >
> > >Is Kabbalah/magic a path for self realisation or something else
>entirely.
> >
> > Don't know about the Kabbalah, but magic can certainly be practiced/used
> > outside the desire for self realisation.
> >
> > >When these Siddhis are performed, are they performed at will, or
> > >spontaneously without will. That could be quite embarassing needless
>to
> > >say, cause quite a stir.
> >
> > I would say both. For instance, I suspect healing can take place with
>a
> > simple placement of hands on someone who is ill without a conscious
>awareness
> > that healing is taking place. St. Teresa of Avila was not trying to
> > levitate--she just did!
> > 'Patricia Treece in *The Sanctified Body* quotes St. Teresa: (p. 263)
> >
> > "[Rapture] comes, in general, as a shock, quick and sharp, before
> > you can collect your thoughts, or help yourself in any way, and
> > you see and feel it as a cloud, or a strong eagle rising upwards
> > and carrying you away on its wings....I repeat it; you feel
> > yourself carried away you know not whither....(You) feel how
> > delicious it is....(At) times it was impossible to resist at all;
> > my soul was carried away...and now and then the whole body as
> > well, so that it was lifted up from the ground."
> >
> > Actually, I'd guess will-less Siddhis are more common than the willful.
>But
> > some people seem to have more control than others.
> >
> > Love, Hillary
> >
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