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Recieved: 2003/03/22 03:36
Subject: RE: [K-list] Course change?
From: Rich


On 2003/03/22 03:36, Rich posted thus to the K-list:

 
> If we believe that we are just instruments of God/dess, which
> is what I believe, then it would seem that all *action* would
> be a manifestation of God/dess working through us. That would
> mean, perhaps, that your asking these questions is an act of
> God/dess through you. So I think Goddess wants this to be
> looked at seriously. If we listen closely with our hearts and
> Goddess instructs us to do this visualization and requests
> for shakti, then that is part of her plan.

Based on this logic, free will would not exist. Everything is divine when
considered from a divine viewpoint. When everything is considered through
the heart everything could be considered an act of love etc... If free will
never existed then what would be a purpose of life (other than the purpose
we place on it through judgement). What would be the purpose of anything?
Purposeless-ness seems like a nice place to be but outside of that there
isn't there a world that is hard to avoid being in.

How did the ball start rolling without some element of free-will?

I guess from a wiser viewpoint it's all just for fun.

> > Why is anothers manfiestation of ego agenda more valid than our own?
>
> How can we tell if another's action/words/etc are an ego
> agenda or not?

For me there is a feeling of right-ness and sincerity and a connectedness
when someone speaks through their heart. Ego brings about seperateness.

> [BTW I don't have the answer to this
> question.] What if the other is acting as an instrument of
> God/dess and our perception and labeling of it as *ego
> agenda* is merely from the result of our own *resisting*
> God/dess?

There is no need to resist when there is nothing to fear loosing. Even
anothers energy assault. From my experience I can stand face to face with
someone shouting and rattling off and have an inner smile knowing they can't
really touch me. I did not use to be like this but one day I just found it
quite pleasant loosing myself in this type of experience and walking away
thinking how funny and silly it was whilst wathing them offload there karma
junk. Sometimes they just start laughing not knowing what they were bothered
by before so much.

> How can we tell what is what? There must be a way
> to be very still and listen to God/dess within our Hearts, to
> ferret out any fear or anger or something within us, if that
> is the cause OR if that is not the cause.

Sure... We always know but don't always listen...

> > And to finish... What happens if I stand in the way and suck on the
> > karma and energy of a leader?
> > I may make myself a mess but what if it diffuses there action...
>
> If this is what Goddess wants you to do, you will do it. And
> I would do it with you in a heartbeat if that is what
> Goddess' plan calls for.

No, it is not... I was saying if I act out of ego then is that anymore valid
than another's act of ego in bringing these events into play.

> If this is Goddess' plan, we will all do it, and there will
> be Peace!!! :-)

> Again, Goddess has it handled? Is this like earthquakes, with
> foreshocks preceeding the Big One?

Can you say that when you are about to die?

> Goddess knows... And peace is all i feel with Goddess through me.

Me too :)


Love and peace too :)

Rich


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