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Recieved: 2003/02/15 21:21
Subject: [K-list] Believing Seeing
From: felix


On 2003/02/15 21:21, felix posted thus to the K-list:

On Sat, 15 Feb 2003 09:56:49 -0800
Mystress Angelique Serpent <Mystress AT_NOSPAM domin8rex.com> wrote:

> Do you discern between fate and divine will? Handing decisions over to Goddess has helped me. It is a relief to pass the buck on the decision making over to the smarter part of my mind. Yet, at the same time... a few years ago I thought I knew my fate, having dreamt it at age 9. When that door closed it was disconcerting, but it felt like freedom, too. Like my life had been given back to me.

I enjoyed Dean and Ken's posts about their experiences with
samadhi. I have experienced similar events, yet the whole
time I was reading their comments about their experiences I
intuited their conclusions would associate with classical
Buddhist descriptions. No blame.

Classifying my experiences in this manner seems to be a
problem for me recently. I like to let the Witness have free
reign to describe my own experiences as it will without
interjecting a conscious attempt to fit things in with
classical, more readily recognizable metaphors. I don't
sense a difference between the Witness and God/dess.

Especially Kundalini events. These things happen, in my
opinion, without regard to the systems defining them. That
very manner of defining them by the dogmas of certain
ancient systems, seems to take something away from the
experience itself, and defining them by a specific dogma
frames one's expectations of what can manifest down the
road.

I guess I accept, in a general sense, that fate is what
one 'thinks' occurs when one interferes with the flow of
divine will by loss of the specious present. Not that
anything really interferes with divine will, as such, as
much as how one interprets and predicts outcomes due to the
loss of the consciousness of flow. Maybe because divine will
has a more global influence and fate seems more personal.

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> I have also observed, that thick skinned people have a smoother line of head. More straight and balanced. I find that the thin skinned tend to have the depression droop at the end of the line, more often. Thin skinned is a good expression for it. Too sensitive.

Yes, my head line goes pretty straight across my hand off
the side, and toward the end splits with a optimistic lift
toward the heart line. I seem surrounded by people with that
depressive droop at times. I seem to get adopted by groups
that play around with risky ventures simply because of my
stability in weird situations.

It seems as though one of the conditions of getting to a
secure place within one's self requires the gnowledge that
everything perceived is a mirror of the beloved. If you love
yo'self, and you see yo'self everywhere you look, then you
love that self you are in all it's myriad forms. This makes
it difficult to not love everyone as you love yo'self, and
exclusive love for another practically impossible. Very difficult to cater to conventional romantic outlooks.

felix

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