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Recieved: 2003/01/22 21:15
Subject: Re: [k-list] Thanks for all the help!!!
From: mundane zen


On 2003/01/22 21:15, mundane zen posted thus to the K-list:

>From: "Charles Portugal" <charles AT_NOSPAM thaitherapy.co.uk>
>Subject: [k-list] Thanks for all the help!!!


Charles,

I just wanted to let you know how pleasant it was to read your post. The
spirit behind the words came thru as so genuine, clear, and true. When I
read some posts the words seem hollow, like the poster is just parroting
some seductive doctrine rather than using terms and quotes that resonate
with personal experience. When I read those kind of posts I feel like I'm
being fed a plate full of saccharine covered dog shit. Yours, on the
contrary, came thru like mana from heaven.

I actually like reading all the posts (except for the extra-long rambling
ones), as even the ones that I don't agree with help me to better understand
other views, or at least give me a chuckle. *General note* So, please don't
take it personally if I disagree with you. Show me where I'm wrong and I'll
change my position. A lot of people seem so attached to names, forms,
dogmas, and opinions.
>... I do not see white light but I do see waves of energy as
>everuything in my field of vision softens.. muich the same as the
>heat haze that hovers above a hot road.


This is the way spirit appears to me too, not as some visualized white
light, but as clear light, like the heat distortion rising from a hot road.
>... Any changes or transformation takes place somehow by the grace of
>God...


It's funny, I've gotten so put-off listening to people talk about "God's
purpose", "God's commandments", "God's will", etc., but when you use the
word "God" it seems perfectly proper and natural. The "highest"
realizations I've had during meditation have revealed a transcendental
awareness, oneness, like clear light, spirit, energy... The energy seems so
powerful and blissful, I could call it God, but I don't sense that it needs
to be worshiped or believed in. It just "is", and is my "true nature", my
Self, and connects to everything else.


>On reading my original question did you respond or not respond because:


I didn't respond originally because I drew a blank. Therefore, I said
nothing, figuring someone else would provide the answer, or you would
discover it yourself.
>In conclusion. I have come to realise that healing is a consensual act
>of loving kindness that comes from a place beyond the ego. Thank you
>for yours.


I've never felt the calling of a healer. However, one night after I
finished meditating, my girlfriend complained that she couldn't get to sleep
because of a bad toothache. I rubbed the side of her cheek (just seemed
like the thing to do) and could feel warmth and energy flowing thru my hand.
  In a short while the pain had diminished enough so she could sleep. The
next morning she reported that the toothache had completely vanished.

Maybe the healer/patient roles are just part of some higher drama being
played out.


ken

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