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Recieved: 2002/11/01 20:27
Subject: [K-list] Sebastian, is that you?
From: Lady Joyce


On 2002/11/01 20:27, Lady Joyce posted thus to the K-list:

Sebastian, is that you? It's me, Ariel! Remember me? The defiant young
daughter of King Neptune? The Bold Little Mermaid? Your charge? I got you
into trouble all the time because I refused to listen...Oh, please remember
me! I remember you...I am older now...wiser now...I will listen to you
instead of insisting that you listen to me...I have had my taste of the
Above...I am ready to go down Below again...I need to lose my legs and find
my mermaid form...

I have been following your fascinating emergence from the Divine Deep...I
need to come up out of the swirling waters for a moment to catch some air
before I drown...May I share your Rock...? I need help. Oh, yes, I come
to you in selfishness. While my desire is to Know, it Is because I seek
Bliss and there is a certain Selfishness to that, isn't there?

I am drowning in the swirling waters because I have legs, and need get back
my tail, so I can swim into the Deep with you, if you will help me...after
all, I am just a human being now!!! Oh, Sebastian...I sacrificed my
mermaid's tail to be with my Prince...he has passed now, and I would like to
return to the Deep...will you help me find my way back?.......

>...you wrote...

>In fact Lisa I am going to curse you (believe it) have you any preferences
before I begin? Pah - I really am too >kind allowing people a choice . . .(I
suppose it must be the HelloWeeny in me - shucks!) I take it public cursing
>is allowed? ahem - am I breaking enough rules yet?

>- and as a Satanist par Excellence (just for Halloween - normally I
transform the energy into rainbows) All >bad thoughts will also be
reflected.

I am afraid of him. Crusty Crustacean, his claws out ready to grab you and
pinch. He is going to curse her!...I believe it...I don't think he is
talking about "public cursing" in the sense that I understand it. I ignore
the rainbows...and run away from those claws.

But I come back again. Have to look at those curses posted on the bottom...I
am afraid to read the one in another language...like the Mummy, reading it
might set it into motion! Since I do not know what it says, I will not go
there...but there is something buried in the middle in English...I have to
look...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.and here is a little something I picked up from a
friend of Virudhaka (A buddhist vampire)
================
AGANE GANE
GAURI GANDHARI
KANDALI MATANGI
PUKKASI SANKULE
VRUSALI SOHA

ABSORPTION OF THE FIRE BUDDHA

As you feel/experience the rising of Anger
Intensify it. Feel it even stronger as a
Boddhisattva in the Hell Realms
expansively radiating flames of compassionate
anger to all the demons that feed on this
energy.

Then being aware of the breath becoming
gentler, bring the experience into a
solid Vajra Diamond in ones Hara (stomach area)

You are effectively making anger
harder and harder
easily becoming a Diamond
(one of the legendary 3 Jewels of Buddhism :-)

AGANE GANE
GAURI GANDHARI
KANDALI MATANGI
PUKKASI SANKULE
VRUSALI SOHA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I did learn to read as a human...As I reread it, the English curse does not
look like a curse to me...but then what do I know? ...Not the rules of the
Deep, that's for sure...or most of the words you are talking about...but
"Boddhisattva in the Hell Realms?" It rings true. It seems that
Boddhisattva in the Hell Realms is where you go to feel/heal the pain of
the Other without request for reward Other than to know that you have done
the work of the Boddhisattva, isn't it? We Are All Connected. Aren't we?
Is there no reward in Knowing That? That is your Payment. What is wrong
with that? If the reward comes from within, is that fulfilment of the Self
an insult to the Self? Yes, my head is spinning....................

>Does the condition of the observer negate the idea of complete emptiness or
show their interdependence?
> 'Emptiness is Form - Form is Emptiness' (is your head spinning yet . . .)YES, it is spinning................ There is something here for me to
understand...I am tired now...my brain hurts...>Be Kind ...Your Well Being may depend on it
>ahem . . .[Lobster chooses a suitable rock to place his claws behind, his
whiskers waving freely as seaweed]

>"Make skillful use of what you have!" advised the Mystr who had turned
themself into an Octopus in order to >be acceptable and understandable.

>"Please explain," enquired the Lobster.

>"Give up giving," advised the Octopus.

>"WAT?? Give up giving? What kind of heretical advice is this?" spluttered
the angry Lobster beginning to turn red (even though uncooked).

>"Most giving," explained the Octopus, "is a form of trading, giving
presents so that we get presents.When you >give it should be like strewing
flowers on the path of The Beloved and then leaving."

>"I know! I know!" squealed Lobster in half memory of some new age snippet,
Create random acts of Beauty >and Senseless Kindness . . .- is it something
like that?"

>"Exactly,' said the Octopus, "To do things for reward is not real kindness
and giving. Kindness is it's own >reward."

>The Lobster was still waving his tale in triumphant knowing something. The
Octopus continued,"If we stand around awaiting payment - we' re taking . .
."

>"So we have to also give up the act of giving as part of the kindness - is
that right?" enquired Lobster
>returning back to a more natural deep blue and running his whiskers through
his claws in a wise and knowing >way.

>"Exactly so!" the Octopus smiled and waved a happy tentacle. The Lobster
beamed. Perhaps he might >always be an impatient, argumentative and angry
claw wielder but he could always be more kind and giving .I am spinning out of control. To give up giving as part of the
kindness...That is the answer? What does that mean? To give up kindness?
Or to give up giving with the expectation of payment? If I do not wait for
payment, expect payment, then how am I taking? I do not understand...

>Then Mystress wrote: That in India, it is considered rude to say thank you
for a gift... because gratitude is >considered a form of payment that
diminishes the purity of the giving...

But if Gratitude is a reflection in the Law of the Mirror, it is not
payment..is it? What form of payment does not diminish the purity of the
giving? Is there a form of payment that does not diminish the purity of the
giving?

Oh, Sebastion, my brain hurts...can't I just come back to the simple Life
of the Deep? I will shed my legs if you will give me back my
fins............

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