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Recieved: 2002/10/17 23:27
Subject: Re: [K-list] There is no Kundalini
From: cmystic


On 2002/10/17 23:27, cmystic posted thus to the K-list:

Aaron,

I don't buy it.

There is a divine force, and divine being that comes to some people.

If they understand it or not is irrelevant. There is too much commonality
in experience to deny it.

I don't care if it is called "K", "Buddha", "Christ", or what.

How on earth can you or anyone else know who he or she is, without this
divine force. Everyone is born to delusion. How can one be honest and
sincere with a lying nature.

Have you never doubted yourself? Maybe you are NOT enough as you are.

You claim you and God are One, and so is everyone else. Explain the world's
evil then. Unless you think God is evil. Or unless you think everything is
just wonderful on this blighted planet.

Peace,
Rob

> There is no Kundalini. The imagination is powerful to decieve the mind. We
> are deluded into thinking we are having a transcendant experience. But
that
> is the nature of transcendance. We believe we are working through a
process.
> But there is no process. While the process is as plain as day. It is easy
to
> become deluded into believing that we are "progressing" while the belief
of
> progression itself is born from the ego-mind. Quintessential self is
> everything. It is everything because it is both the here and the later.
> Before time existed in our minds, as an infant, there was no more a "now"
> than there would be a "then". I remember very well the exact moment that
the
> thoughtform of hard time was born in my consciuosness. I didn't like it at
> all, to say the least, and tried my best to avoid it although knowing
somehow
> it's integration was somehow inevitable. I can remember arguing in my
mind,
> with my parents, although not knowing how to explain it, that this idea of
> "time" was ludicrous and unnecessary and so much weight to have added on
> life. That is where I am returning to. However with an adult mind to boot.
I
> am returning to no-time. I have wreaked havoc on myself prying with
Kundalini
> concepts. Thinking I have come along in my progress. And that I must be
> "more" of something.. or "less" of something else. Paying close attention
the
> "power" I am exerting, or the amount of "surrender". But I decieved myself
in
> the process. Because of one key point. In my delusion I had virtually
> forgotten what true "surrender" even meant.. because I had forgotten
myself.
> Essentially, or quintessentially, the self that existed as I was as an
> infant. They say children are close to God, and I believe this. But it is
> easy to admendum what it is to be "a child". I won't forgoe with any rules
> and regulations. Those are for the individuals path. But I warn those who
> forget that childhood was a time of innocence. And remember well the
> anticedants that lead us from childhood into adulthood. There is a second
> birth. And an ego-death. It's different for everyone. The rules I placed
on
> myself regarding my path were tremendous. Quite difficult for one who
expects
> to walk among serpents and dance among hot coals. But there I was indeed
> bludgeoning myself with impossible heights and lows to encounter,.. having
> accepted this is what "Kundalini" was. Indeed, one who is one with God
does
> walk among serpents and dance among fire. But blinded by the light, we
find
> ourselves lacking at every step, and slowly descending into a place of
> impossibility. We judge ourselves at every corner, every step, because we
are
> not enough.. and we worry for our namesake, our very lives. But then we
> should know that Kundalini desires us to leave our lives. To throw of
> mortality. The crunch is quite unbearable, to live, without life, for a
> purpose, we cannot see. We see "masters" abound us. Foreign personalities
we
> doubt ourselves in their names. They may have mastered their place in the
> universe, but we have not. We forget ourselves. We throw ourselves to the
> wolves, if the wolves have teeth. We have forgotten what it is to be an
> infant. To be free of worry, doubt, and horror. But Kundalini demands a
> spirit capable of embracing entire tribes. Brothers and sisters who are
> listening. There is no possible way of embracing such things without
> spiritual guidance and a commitment to the self. Not the ego self. But the
> quintessential divine angel within us. Had I forgotten permanently who I
was.
> I would have lead myself down a black path of woe and blamed myself
entirely
> in the end believing I was simply not enough as I was. Trying, in vain, to
> force a rabbit to be a wolf. There is a path to self. But it is through
self
> and through self alone. We cannot be blinded by the light and allow
illusions
> to destroy us. Each of us must stand alone. To be alone one must be
honest.
> Sincere. and know him/herself. Never let another tell you who you are. If
> they speak to be so. They must be ignorant themselves. That is the
challenge
> of all who know themselves while others do not. To doubt ourselves is to
> believe another over ourself. We know who we are. We were born knowing who
we
> are. And it will never leave us. God does not leave us. We and God are
One.
> And God does not create anything ugly out of itself. Believe in yourself.
> Believe in your dreams. And let your surrender, to yourself, be your
Guide.
> And Kundalini will dissappear. There is no Kundalini. There is only you.
> There is only self.
>
> Peace in the Light,
> Aaron
>

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