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Recieved: 2002/09/23 09:55
Subject: [K-list] Re: Fate and Free Will
From: David


On 2002/09/23 09:55, David posted thus to the K-list:

if the Universe is closed and infinitely-recurrent, as
the Indian cosmology suggests and as some physicists
have been more and more willing to consider lately,
then the free-will/destiny false dichotomy breaks down
on purely scientific grounds as well. Our
consciousness, as the Whole far greater than the mere
sum of our parts, experiences self-awareness and
recursive, self-related knowledge. "Ego". and one of
the manifestations of this recursive and self-related
knowledge is the subjective sense that we have
'choice', which I often think is caused by the
illusion of linear time (which is bound up with
deep-brain structures which piece frames of sense data
together sequentially, like a movie-projector),
coupled with subtle perceptual distortions caused by
the fact that the quantum-level information-exchange
in our brains happens much faster than the
chemical/synaptic-level information exchange. IOW, the
time-delays in every experience we have lead to the
illusion that we are choosing to do what we do, when
in reality it's just 'ME' as a finite set of particles
running the course through its incredibly large yet
still very finite range of possible configurations
(see chaos theory and complexity theory for more
behind this). Likewise, you can extrapolate this up
to the seeming randomness and arbitrary quality of
human social and even global-scale events; when events
synchronize in patterns (or rather, they're ALWAYS
synchronizing in patterns, its just when we begin to
SEE those patterns!), we can begin to get the sense
that once again, it is neither "freewill" nor "fate"
which drives the universe; the Universe is merely
running through the array of every possibility that
can be, God is dreaming every dream He can dream, very
often through our own dreams, I think! ;p we are all
just Primal Pattern wrapped in bones and flesh and
clothing and webs of language and symbolism... when
the limits of complexity are reached (ie. matter
reaches its state of maximum expansion and begins
going back inward into the 'big crunch' Singularity),
then... the patterns all repeat themslves. you can
experience this on a microcosmic level in your own
life, as you cycle between periods of copletely
distilled simplicity and completly fragmented
complexity and then back again, and on the most
macrocosmic level... I always wonder whether or not my
own passage through death's door is merely my own
passage through my mother's birth canal, on my
birthday, 28 years ago, on the "next" recursive loop
of the Universe... this Moment contains all Moments...
 maybe? *shrugs*
just my 2 cents...
love,
david


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