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Recieved: 2002/08/03 18:16
Subject: Re: [K-list] To oobe or not to oobe.
From: Gregor Gonnella
On 2002/08/03 18:16, Gregor Gonnella posted thus to the K-list:
A friend of mine, when she meditates alot, the burning bit of the incense
sticks she burned would actually break off and fly into the air. Also
candles she had lit would flare us for no aparent reason. She had to stop
using them for safety reasons. Hope someone can answer you questions.
Gregor.
----- Original Message -----
From: goldenyawn <goldenyawnATnospamyahoo.com>
To: <K-list >
Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 9:52 AM
Subject: [K-list] To oobe or not to oobe.> Hello. This is my first post. Let me begin by saying I have a
> question, but first, some background. Back about a year ago, I was
> looking for something relaxing to do that was also interesting
> online, and I came upon what I saw as a derivative of
> meditation; that being oobe or astral projection. I went at it as
> prescribed in various online documentation for about a week or so,
> when upon one attempt I was feeling the assumed effects, extreme
> relaxation, paralysis, very strong and warm vibrations through my
> whole body, a feeling that my feet were being gripped and pulled
> downward toward the end of the bed, and so on, until a very strong
> pressure developed in my forehead, and a feeling that my face was
> being pulled forward by some unseen force. After this sensation
> persisted for a few minutes, there was the feeling of an explosion in
> my forehead accompanied by a loud boom, release of pressure, and
> audible screams. I then found myself suspended in empty, open grey-
> white space.
>
> I arose from this experience and have not tried meditation or other
> similar methods since. Now, and ever since this experience, I cannot
> fall asleep lying on my back, I must be laying on my side. (I never
> had problems sleeping on my back before.) If I do attempt to fall
> asleep on my back, I feel what I assume is energizing of my third-eye
> chakra, and a sense of dissociation. If I try to ignore it and learn
> to just fall asleep on my back again (I try from time to time),
> different events occur. Sometimes an arm or leg will jump up
> unexpectedly, or I'll experience rather vivid imagery in a strong
> flash, sometimes with auditory input, and it will jolt me enough that
> I awake. So this bothers me for sleeping purposes. Apart from
> sleeping, I also find it very easy to "focus" on this feeling around
> my forehead and above my nose...but I don't take this practice up
> really because I'm not sure of what the effects might be.
>
> I might also mention that in immediate proximity to my experience,
> and what really stopped my investigation of astral projection, were
> two main phenomena: loud noises and flying pieces of paper. The loud
> noises resembled an aluminum chair being hit or dropped, and the
> pieces of paper would just inexplicably flip or become airborne and
> drift across the room. I would have thought I was crazy but this
> happened in the presence of witnesses. This activity subsided over
> the next weeks.
>
> Searching on the net for possible explanations, the closest I could
> find was Kundalini. Hmm. So I think that is my question. Is this
> Kundalini, or just different, assorted and related phenomena related
> to astral projection?
>
> Thank you all very much,
>
> -goldenyawn
>
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