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Recieved: 2002/07/06 14:39
Subject: [K-list] Ramblings from a Plain Man
From: Christopher Wynter


On 2002/07/06 14:39, Christopher Wynter posted thus to the K-list:

A long time ago, now it seems, Mystress wrote to me and told me she
wanted to know what I knew .. and now, she may not "know" exactly
what I "know" but she has some ideas as to "how" and "why" and
where I "know" it from.

My last post to this list [ to Grant ] was, for me, the one that I
personally found the most difficult to write .. and perhaps for
those of you who read it without deleting it, it may have been one
of the more challenging things you have read.

I want to thank those on this list who have challenged me to find
the words to express some of the things I have written over the
last few weeks.

To "know" something is one thing .. to be able to express it in
words is a totally different thing. One of the "things" about
Kundalini is that, once it has cleared the mind amd descended to
the the heart, it doesn't stop there.

But, the mind cannot "learn" this.

The final expression of Kundalini manifests in all of the "Chakras"
- where each "chakra" is the "living expression" of the
"energy_of_life_itself", and becomes a complete "merging" of
"Heaven and Earth".

Yup .. these are "spiritual terms" which have "hairs" on them in
terms of meaning .. but there are not to many metaphors that can be
used to describe exactly "how it is".

Someone posted a link here about the origins of the term "Shaman",
and buried in that stuff was a pretty good description. It's like a
"madness" where one has one choice - to follow it to the end, or to
die.

And these are, it seems, the greatest fears that we have deep in
the memory of our body. I have known about it, I have experienced
it, I have lived through it, but I have not, until the other day,
written it down and put it "up" or "out there" for me to see .. or
for others to read.

Another step in self-acceptance .. because the child learned that
one of the things it had to do was find words for what it knew ..
and this includes every child ..

We are born with the remembering of what happens after death. There
was more written in David's post "Prodigy" than was immediately
obvious to the mind. The thing about the kids these days is that
they have a strength which basically says .. "you got me into this
. I remember all about it .. this is the way it is .. and you are
not going to make me forget it this time"

Kundalini, as it comes to rest in the throat, finds its expression
in words (amongst other things) - and they are NOT spiritual words
in terms that so many have come to accept, use and believe in as
"spiritual" ..

Part of my own journey has been in finding out what language some
of the people speak on the various lists so that I could relate
what "I knew" in terms of what "religion" and "spirituality" say
about life - and death.

There is some truth in all spirituality .. and each person is
playing their own particular "game of life" according to the rules
of the tribe they have decided they are going to belong in this
time around.

Life has NO opposite. Life is like the Tao - it is the way of all
things. ALL things, from the smallest single cell to the largest
Universe follows "The Way" - is an expression of Life. Each of us
sees only what we have been conditioned to see .. and expresses it
according to the limitations on what we have allowed ourselves to
express.

The Union of "Heaven and Earth" allows us to express things "as
they are" - and for the ego, that tends to be a little "in your
face" ..

 Especially when there is a Union
 between the two great opposites, "Birth_and_Death".

The "spiritual annals" refer to "to die before thou diest" and many
people have different ideas as to what this means .. each according
to their experience.

 Basically, what it means is that, here, now, in this moment,
 there is no meaning to the experience of Life ..
 apart from the one we choose to give it.

 Most of us forget that. The Prodigy remembers.

For those of us who have battled with the conditioning that has
been imprinted into our memory by all of the projections we have
received from the moment of our conception, for those of us who
have battled to find words to express "what we know" in terms that
are acceptable to the tribe, this self-acceptance can be a little
hard to allow ..

because it is the fear of the "death_rebirth" cycle that keeps us
on our "spiritual search", entrapped by the perceptions of other's
experiences of "life_after_death", mesmerised by the glowing
promises of some "eternal reward" .. you know the story ..

But, that's the "psychology of the mind". Yet, we become attached
to these promises because we have been conditioned to.

In facing, accepting, and freely moving through "death_and_rebirth"
as I choose, some sort of deeper understanding starts to gell as
the imprints from the past are gradually erased ..

Freedom can be a scary thing .. until one realises that this is
"Life" and its not freedom that is scary, but the remembering of
the threat to that freedom that needs to be released.

Madness can be a scary thing .. until one realises that this is
what religion has labelled those who would not "bow down" to the
"god" that they created to control people.

Am I making any sense to those who are reading this .. ?

It doesn't matter to me, really, if I am or not .. I'm having a go
at finding some words about "life" according to the experiences I
have had .. and the expressions of it that I have found on this
list ..

and don't worry, you wont have to listen to me any more after this
because I have chosen to do focus my time now in rewriting my
website and in communicating with those who have chosen to join me
on my own list ..

>From the space between "Death_and_Rebirth", when the constraints of
belief are removed, it is easy to see how the attachments we all
have to what we call "Life" are a lie .. that Life is much more ..

and there is one thing that I KNOW - beyond any doubt, and that is
that the mind that we think with is the LAST to know .. and yet it
is so powerful that the very last thing that it wants to let go of
is the vague reward that there is "something else" that can be some
recompense for this "Hell_on_Earth" to which we are a martyr,
sacrifice and Victim ..

You cannot "Think" your way round it .. because all your thoughts
will do is create some sort of "purgatory" that you will face in
those last hours before the body finally gives up the ghost because
the will of Life_It_Self has been finally drained from your body by
the mind that thinks it knows best ..

Yup .. Kundalini might be a scary thing .. and might well be Evil
. because the one thing it WILL end up by doing is kill off any
idea that the mind may have as to its superiority. It will make the
mind face the foolishness of all of our beliefs and attachments.

AND ..

if you allow it to continue through to the point where it merges
with "The_Universal_Life_Breath" it will kill both "God" and the
"Goddess" .. and all of the spiritual practices you have ever been
part of will be seen as "stepping stones" to this point ..

and all that will be left is Life .. beyond definition .. and your
total and absolute power of choice as to what games you will play,
and how you will experience those games.

and this is beyond anything that the mind can comprehend ..
 unless it too, has become one with
  Life_It_Self_in_the_moment_of_living.One last thing I've learned ..

 in the end, its a lot simpler to accept all of the things
 that the mind wants to deny .. than it is to try and bury
 them under something that the mind wants to make
 "Holier than Thou"What is more pleasing to the ear .. listening to music on a cheap
plastic dime radio .. or through a decent stereo system ..

The Mind you get is what you think you can afford ..
the price is the beliefs to which you are attached ..
the attachment is your fear and denial of your own inner knowing.First there was the Eternal Tao;
>From One came the Two;
>From Two came Three;
>From Three came Ten Thousand other Things ;

Christopher Wynter

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Transpersonal LifeStreams - Hobart Tasmania

http://www.anunda.com
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