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Recieved: 2002/04/02 17:27
Subject: Re: [K-list] A Beautiful Mind
From: anunda_lifestreams


On 2002/04/02 17:27, anunda_lifestreams posted thus to the K-list:

There was much more revealed in a 60 minute interview with Nash
and his wife - and some of the peers who awarded him the Nobel.

--- In Kundalini-GatewayATnospamy..., José H <jose.gitanaATnospamx> wrote:

> Regressive states, whether coming from this live or further back,
are
> considered undesirable and one should wait with any kind of
treatment untill
> they pass.

The so-called regressive states are part of the Hologram that exists
within the "Stem Cell" from which every cell of the body is formed.

They also exist within the Adult Stem Cell - present briefly during
the mitosis of cellular regeneration.

For those who did not like Gopi Krishna's book, I can assure you (from
personal experience) that,when you go that deep into the remembering
contained in the cells of the body that you can access the
Consciousness of the Stem Cell, all "Hell" breaks loose and the mind
does experience every possibility and potential that is stored in
this Holographic cell.

This is what I referred to in my previous post by "moving through the
Siddhi's or the Transpersonal Bands". Someone who has an idea can
possibly envisage what it may be like - but when there is a limitation
to existing Spiritual Teaching, Psychology or other Learnings, the
actual experience shatters all ideas and preconceptions.

Unfortunately, those who have had this experience (in the past) have
translated it into "Mystical Spiritual Terms" - or Metaphors. I have
found by going back to the older texts before their translation into
English that they do, indeed, describe my experience in a metaphorical
way.

Even Mainstream Transpersonal Psychology is stuck in the Sovereign
Mind Concept and, for the most part, suffers from interpretations
of scholars rather that the shared experiences of those who have
been through "it" and out the other side.

Yet - it is only through the experience that Transpersonal can be
understood - catch 22.

> Don't get me wrong: Nash lifestory is amazing, the movie is pretty
good. But
> if, like Christofer said, Nash did see the similarities with the
> enlightenement process, and understood more on his own regressive
states, it
> would have been very interesting to show this side of his lifestory
to -
> then you could actually get to know his beautiful mind really.

This was, in fact a statement by Nash, during the interview ..

> The title does not fit the movie, I think. What's so beautiful
about the mad
> genius that is utterly helpless if it wasn't for his loving wife?

The Title of the Film came from the recorded observations of the
Nobel Laureate Sponsors when, unbeknown to Nash, they went and
visited him and his wife in their home - before consideration to
the award was given.

The interview I saw on 60 minutes featured part of these observations
from the man who made them.

I will say one other thing - and that is, having supported several
other people through this shift in consciousness and worked with
quite a number of others, sometimes ethrogens or other mind altering
substances may be the only way out - if only because of the intense
support that some people require over a long period of time to
move through this process to the other side.

There just are not sufficient support people around who have the
experience to be able to "see" what is going on in the other person
(which is what Patenjali wrote way back then in the Yoga Sutras
and what Lao Tzu meant in the Tao Te Chin).

The effect is, of course, that when "in that state" the fears and
thoughts of an inexperienced support person come crashing through
the consciousness of the one "going through the experience" even
louder than the inner voices - and a well meaning support person
who does not acknowledge their own limitations and fears may well
be the very reason for the onset of the Paranoia.

I was very "lucky" in that the person who guided me through my
experiences was able to put my experience into plain English -
and in a way that I could understand - without making my experience
wrong - or less than his.

But then, amongst other things, Ryanto was a Taoist Priest.

Whatever - the energy of the Stem Cell is the most "Primal" for
want of a better word. It is undifferentiated in that it sees
no Male nor Female .. no right or wrong. But, it is not Primitive.

The movement of this energy through the body can only be handled
with acceptance - and the respect of who you are becoming after
all of the layers of imprinted programs have been released from
the mind and the emotional layers of the body.

The undifferentiated energy of the Stem Cell
is the Pure Consciousness of the Heart -
it knows none of the other directions -
nor time or space.

In order to be known, everything that separates the mind
from that pristine awareness must be relinquished ..

its all past separations anyway.

Only then will you fully understand "A Beautiful Mind"

   the most perfect of mirrors.

   == Christopher Wynter







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