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Recieved: 2002/01/23 13:27
Subject: [K-list] Re: suicide stuff
From: Soitpp


On 2002/01/23 13:27, Soitpp posted thus to the K-list:

> the "One Truth" in life is the "Dao" of Lao Zi's
> scriptures. Pure genius.

that is really good stuff isn't it

> However, the concept of believing in some sort of saviour Lord is
> difficult, if not impossible, for me.

ghaaaa... a saviour outside of yourself? I feign to imagine it

> And this very fact prevents me from being able to
> accept any single one as the "real way".

your sentiment is so commonly echoed in the hearts and minds of many
intelligent beautiful people

> Is there a way of being spiritual in the most universal form, without
> adhering to any one specific rule-set imposed by one religion? Many
> religions have a whole baggage of "evil" associated with them, such
> as sexism or anti-gay beliefs.

I think by affirming your intentions you are on the very path to just that...
"spiritually indipendant" perhaps? ;)

> I am wondering how a person like me can feed or harvest his neglected
> spiritual side?

perhaps by beginning to question your boundaries you are beginning to do just
that

> I wish I could be as happy as you and believe in God.

oh my friend, but you are. In fact seeing you go your own brings me great
joy, in seeing others find their own way of relating to the "universe" I am
reminded of my own. Your own "God" is taking shape and form as you begin to
question and establish your own philosophy and spirituality. Independant of
belief systems we are still able to draw on the ideas and philosophies of
others without being "taken in".

> But because everything is truly meaningless and arbitrary, I cannot
> take anything too seriously. Things only mean what you make them
> mean. Does that mean life is just a big convention?

but then even calling it such as the big convention would coneract it's
arbitrariness (hehe ok I'm no english major) nonetheless, what good can
labels do us for something as big (or as small) as life itself?

> How can I believe in or trust any God, when I know he or she is just
> a symbol we have made up ourselves?

perhaps it is time to redefine "God"

> Maybe I have to believe in myself, in my own power or "sacredness" to
> give meaning to life.

> Spiritually lost...

> Marraskuu (Christian)

It was good reading your post Marraskuu (interesting name). I wouldn't label
you nearly as "lost" as so very many who follow only what is given to them
from others who often in no regards more "saved" or "found" than them.
There's that word "label" again.
Lots of Fun and Inspiration to you,
 from Aaron it sounds great to learn new languages and
other cultures.. I want to start learning Japanese soon myself.. I love
Japanese arts

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