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Recieved: 2001/11/01 11:13
Subject: [K-list] Fear/Panic... not needed
From: Flute


On 2001/11/01 11:13, Flute posted thus to the K-list:

This is long but I think it is very worthwhile reading, especially the
 part that suggests keeping calm and non-panic.

Steve (Steve is in Turkey)

Forget everything you've ever seen on TV, in the movies, or read in a
novel about this stuff, it was all a lie (read this sentence again out
loud!). These weapons are about terror, if you remain calm, you will
probably not die..

Words of Wisdom From An Armor Master

Since the media has decided to scare everyone with
predictions of Chemical, biological, or nuclear warfare on our turf I
decided to write a paper and keep things in their proper perspective.
 I
am a retired military weapons, munitions, and training expert..

Lesson number one: In the mid 1990s there were a series
of
nerve gas attacks on crowded Japanese subway stations. Given perfect
conditions for an attack less than 10% of the people there were
injured
(the injured were better in a few hours) and only one percent of the
injured died. 60 Minutes once had a fellow telling us that one drop
of nerve gas could kill a thousand people, well he didn't tell you the
thousand dead people per drop was theoretical. Drill Sergeants
exaggerate how terrible this stuff was to keep the recruits awake in
class (I know this because I was a Drill Sergeant too). Forget
everything you've ever seen on TV, in the movies, or read in a novel
about this stuff, it was all a lie (read this sentence again out
 loud!). These weapons are about terror, if you remain calm, you will
probably not die..

This is far less scary than the media and their Experts, make it
sound.
Chemical weapons are categorized as Nerve, Blood, Blister, and
Incapacitating agents Contrary to the hype of reporters and
politicians they are not weapons of mass destruction they are Area
denial, and terror weapons that don't destroy anything. When you
leave
the area you almost always leave the risk. That's the difference; you
can leave the area and the risk; soldiers may have to stay put and sit
through it and that's why they need all that spiffy gear..

These are not gasses, they are vapors and/or air borne
particles. The Agent must be delivered in sufficient quantity to
kill/injure, and that defines when/how its used. Every day we have a
morning and evening inversion where stuff, suspended in the air gets
pushed down. This inversion is why allergies (pollen) and air
pollution are worst at these times of the day. So, a chemical attack
will have its best effect an hour of so either side of sunrise/sunset.
Also, being vapors and airborne particles they are heavier than air so
they will seek low places like ditches, basements and underground
garages. This stuff wont work when its freezing, it doesn't last
when
its hot, and wind spreads it too thin too fast. They've got to get
this
stuff on you, or,get you to inhale it for it to work. They also have
to
get the concentration of chemicals high enough to kill or wound you.
Too
little and its nothing, too much and its wasted. What I hope you've
gathered by this point is that a chemical weapons attack that kills a
lot of people is incredibly hard to do with military grade agents and
equipment so you can imagine how hard it will be for terrorists. The
more you know about this stuff the more you realize how hard it is to
use..

We'll start by talking about nerve agents. You have
these
in your house,plain old bug killer (like Raid) is nerve agent. All
nerve agents work the same way; they are cholinesterase inhibitors
that
mess up the signals your nervous system uses to make your body
function. It canharm you if you get it on your skin but it works best
if
they can get you to inhale it. If you don't die in the first minute
and
you can leave the area you're probably gonna live. The military's
antidote for all nerve agents is atropine and pralidoxime chloride.
Neither one of these does anything to cure the nerve agent, they send
your body into overdrive to keep you alive for five minutes, after
that
the agent is used up. Your best protection is fresh air and staying
calm. Listed below are the symptoms for nerve agent poisoning..

Sudden headache, Dimness of vision (someone you're
looking
at will have pinpointed pupils), Runny nose, Excessive saliva or
drooling, Difficulty breathing, Tightness in chest, Nausea, Stomach
cramps, Twitching of exposed skin where a liquid just got on you..

If you are in public and you start experiencing these
symptoms, first ask yourself, did anything out of the ordinary just
happen, a loud pop, did someone spray something on the crowd?

Are other people getting sick too? Is there an odor of
new mown hay, green corn, something fruity, or camphor where it
shouldn't be? If the answer is yes, then calmly (if you panic you
breathe faster and inhale more air/poison) leave the area and head up
wind, or, outside. Fresh air is the best right now antidote. If you
have a blob of liquid that

looks like molasses or Karo syrup on you; blot it or
scrape it off and away from yourself with anything disposable. This
stuff works based on your body weight, what a crop duster uses to
kill bugs wont hurt you unless you stand there and breathe it in
real
deep, then lick the residue off the ground for while. Remember they
have to do all the work, they have to get the concentration up and
keep
it up for several minutes while all you have to do is quit getting it
on
you/quit breathing it by putting space between you and the attack.
Blood agents are cyanide or arsine which effect your bloods ability to
provide oxygen to your tissue..

The scenario for attack would be the same as nerve
agent.
Look for a pop or someone splashing/spraying something and folks
around
there getting woozy/falling down. The telltale smells are bitter
almonds or garlic where it shouldn't be. The symptoms are blue lips,
blue under the fingernails rapid breathing. The military's antidote
is
amyl nitride and just like nerve agent antidote it just keeps your
body
working for five minutes till the toxins are used up. Fresh air is
the your best individual chance Blister agents (distilled mustard) are
so nasty that nobody wants to even handle it let alone use it. Its
almost impossible to handle safely and may have delayed effect of up
to 12 hours. The attack scenario is also limited to the things you'd
see from other chemicals. If you do get large, painful blisters for no
apparent reason, don't pop them, if you must, don't let the liquid
from the blister get on any other area, the stuff just keeps on
spreading.
Its just as likely to harm the user as the target.
Soap,
water, sunshine, and fresh air are this stuffs enemy..
Bottom line on chemical weapons (its the same if they use industrial
chemical spills); they are intended to make you panic, to terrorize
 you, to heard you like sheep to the wolves. If there is an attack,
leave the area and go upwind, or to the sides of the wind stream.
They
have to get the stuff to you, and on you. You're more likely to be
hurt
by a drunk driver on any given day than be hurt by one of these
attacks. Your odds get better if you leave the area. Soap, water,
time,
and fresh air really deal this stuff a knock-out-punch. Don't let
fear
of an isolated attack rule your life. The odds are really on your
side..

Nuclear bombs. These are the only weapons of mass
destruction on earth. The effects of a nuclear bomb are heat, blast,
EMP, and radiation. If you see a bright flash of light like the sun,
where the sun isn't, fall to the ground! The heat will be over a
second. Then there will be two blast waves, one out going, and one on
its way back. Don't stand up to see what happened after the first
wave;
anything that's going to happen will have happened in two full
minutes..

These will be low yield devices and will not level whole
cities. If you live through the heat, blast, and initial burst of
radiation, you'll probably live for a very very long time. Radiation
will not create fifty foot tall women, or giant ants and grass hoppers
the size of tanks. These will be at the most 1 kiloton bombs; that's
the equivalent of 1,000 tons of TNT. Heres the real deal, flying
debris
and radiation will kill a lot of exposed (not all)! People within a
half mile of the blast. Under perfect conditions this is about a half
mile circle of death and destruction, but, when its done its done. EMP
stands for Elector Magnetic Pulse and it will fry every electronic
device for a good distance, its impossible to say what and how far but
probably not over a couple of miles from ground zero is a good guess.
Cars, cell phones, computers, ATMs, you name it, all will be out of
order. There are lots of kinds of radiation, you only need to worry
about three, the others you have lived with for years. You need to
worry about Ionizing radiation, these are little sub atomic particles
 that go whizzing along at the speed of light. They hit individual
cells in your body, kill the nucleus and keep on going..
That's how you get radiation poisoning, you have so many dead cells in
your body that the decaying cells poison you. Its the same as people
getting radiation treatments for cancer, only a bigger area gets
radiated. The good news is you don't have to just sit there and take
it, and there's lots you can do rather than panic. First; your skin
will stop alpha particles, a page of a news paper or your clothing
will
stop beta particles, you just gotta try and avoid inhaling dust that's
contaminated with atoms that are emitting these things and you'll be
generally safe from them. Gamma rays are particles that travel like
rays (Quantum physics makes my brain hurt) and they create the same
damage as alpha and beta particles only they keep going and kill lots
of cells as they go all the way through your body. It takes a lot to
stop these things, lots of dense material, on the other hand it takes
a lot of this to kill you.

  Your defense is as always to not panic.

Basic hygiene and normal preparation are your friends..
All canned or frozen food is safe to eat. The radiation poisoning
will
not effect plants so fruits and vegetables are OK if there's no dust
on
em (rinse em off if there is). If you don't have running water and
you
need to collect rain water or use water from wherever, just let it sit
for thirty minutes and skim off the water gently from the top. The
dust
with the bad stuff in it will settle and the remaining water can be
used
 for the toilet which will still work if you have a bucket of water to
pour in the tank. Finally there's biological warfare. There's not much
to cover here.

Basic personal hygiene and sanitation will take you
further than a million doctors. Wash your hands often, don't share
drinks, food, sloppy kisses, etc., .. with strangers. Keep your
garbage
can with a tight lid on it, don't have standing water (like old
buckets, ditches, or kiddy pools) laying around to allow mosquitoes
breeding room. This stuff is carried by vectors, that is bugs,
rodents,
and contaminated material. If biological warfare is as easy as the TV
makes it sound why has Saddam Hussein spent twenty years, millions,
and
millions of dollars trying to get it right? If you're clean of person
and home you eat well and are active you're gonna live..

Overall preparation for any terrorist attack is the same
as you'd take for a big storm. If you want a gas mask, fine, go get
one. I know this stuff and I''m not getting one and I told my Mom
not
to bother with one either (how's that for confidence). We have a
weeks
worth of cash,several days worth of canned goods and plenty of soap
and
water. We don't leave stuff out to attract bugs or rodents so we
don't
have them..

These people cant conceive a nation this big with this
much resources.. These weapons are made to cause panic, terror, and
to
demoralize. If wedon't run around like sheep they wont use this
stuff
after they find outits no fun. The government is going nuts over this
stuff because theyhave to protect every inch of America. You've only
gotta protect yourself, and by doing that, you help the country..

Finally, there are millions of caveats to everything I
wrote here and you can think up specific scenarios where my advice
isn't the best.. This letter is supposed to help the greatest number
of
people under the greatest number of situations. If you don't like my
work, don't nit pick,just sit down and explain chemical, nuclear, and
biological warfare in a the people of the United States can rob these
people of their most desired goal, your terror..

SFC Red Thomas (Ret) Armor Master Gunner, Mesa, AZ Reproduction and
distribution is authorized and encouraged.. Just give me credit for
my
work..

Best Wishes, Michael Wells Mandeville, The Hills of Arizona USA
at mwmanATnospamearthlink.net


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