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Recieved: 2001/09/14 05:10
Subject: Re: [K-list] the chessboard
From: siska
On 2001/09/14 05:10, siska posted thus to the K-list:
----- Original Message -----
From: "siska" <;
To: <CLEOCATRAsATnospamaol.com>
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: [K-list] the chessboard
> Well said. If only Dubya, Tony Blair et al could see things the same
> way....
>
> As a Brit living in UK, I can say many here and across the rest of the
world
> don't share American popular reaction to this outrage. Easy to say I know
> when we are distanced from the immediate horror - but at the same time
that
> very detachment gives us the ability to remain objective - a much needed
> perspective right now at a time when knee jerk rection could trigger a
> massive world wide escalation of violence and terror.
>
> I apologise for getting political here on a 'spiritual' list, but these
> things are ignored at all our perils - many elements constitute the whole
> after all. I believe to be a fully realised spiritual being also means
> taking a full and active part in the world. If my views offend anyone,
then
> please accept my apologies in advance.
>
> Make no mistake - Islamic terrorism may be psychopathic in nature - but it
> still has to come from somewhere. You could say it represents the very
> extreme end of a scale of pan-Arab/Islamic resentment, and for many,
hatred
> of the West. American politicians may talk of a broad coalition of
support
> for the US, including from Islamic countries, but the governments of such
> countries don't necessarily represent the views of their peoples.
Afterall,
> the concept of democracy isn't a natural one to especially the Arab mind,
> and many Islamic states are in effect dictatorships. If push comes to
> shove, even moderate Moslems will always put Islam (and Moslems in another
> country) first. I lived in an Islamic republic for nearly a year, and
I've
> travelled widely in the Islamic world. Islam is very different to other
> religions. In many countries there is a seperation of state and religion,
> but with Islam, state, politics, economics and religion are all part of
one
> integrated approach to life. Also, many Moslems view themselves as a
> members of an Islamic community that transcends national barriers. An
> attack on one will be viewed by many as an attack on them all.
>
> The entire western world, not just America needs to learn from this
> atrocity. Like it or not, we have a history of economic and political
> manipulation and oppression of large parts of the rest of the world. Why
> should we be so surprised when there is a back lash??
>
> In terms of America, I feel as a nation state it needs to learn that its
> self appointed role as moral arbiter/policeman of the world (a role
> incidently inherited from 19th century Britain) is seen as imperialistic
> bullying by those outside. America cannot continue to view itself as the
> most powerful, therefore impregnable nation in the world. It's a big
world
> of which America, geographically speaking, is but a small part, and of
which
> many sectors of its population know or care very little. This has to
> change. America must learn from this experience, as must we all.
>
> I can't help feeling at a deep unconscious collective level, long
neglected
> feminine values are demanding recognition and re-integration here. The
> world has been male/science/rational/power/status/materialistically
> dominated for far too long. The need for balance is a law of nature - the
> more extreme the oppression, the more forceful the eventual eruption.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <CLEOCATRAsATnospamaol.com>
> To: <K-list >
> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 10:39 AM
> Subject: [K-list] the chessboard
> > I carefully read the Islamic voice behind the reasoning for destruction
> today.
> > I carefully read the western voice behind the reasoning of retaliation
> today.
> > The essence of each were identical, the same injustices, injuries,
> > destructions were claimed. They were real to each of them on each side
of
> the
> > chessboard.
> > The pawns fight and the Rulers of the Court never see battle. Just too
> easy
> > to make a move on the board.
> >
> > It seems to me, the hardest thing of all is to make no move at all.
> >
> >
> > Our acts of justice resonate on this earth in Karma and came back to us
in
> > the form of terrorism. We inflicted our definition of justice that never
> > suited the recipient and never will. We have nurtured enough anger
against
> > our acts of justice to finally bring this anger to our shores.
> >
> > Retaliation will only validate their claim of our bullying justice. To
do
> > nothing would cause them to think again. There is a reason other peoples
> and
> > other nations hate us -- it did not come out of thin air.
> >
> > I feel our best safety is to do nothing except forgive and try to
> understand
> > -- lest we tort anger in an even bigger way.
> >
> > Justice is only relative to which side of the line in the sand you are
> > behind. The winds of time blowing the grains of sand away, we lose
knowing
> > where the line is drawn or where the grains of sand have gone.
> >
> >
> > What to do with anger?
> > Hard physical labor. Gardening, Cleaning, Fetching.
> >
> > Blessings,
> > Cat
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