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Recieved: 2001/08/03 12:08
Subject: Re: [K-list] States of Samadhi
From: Druout


On 2001/08/03 12:08, Druout posted thus to the K-list:

In a message dated 7/24/2001 1:36:13 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
mgbaraybarATnospamyahoo.com writes:

your sister here gives me a good
> insight of the different states of samadhi, I'd like to
> know more about it...(if you can recommend any books that
> would be great)
> SAT NAM!!!
> maria.

Dear List,

I just realized that Maria's question was made on-list, so in case others
here are interested in Samadhi states here is part of my reply to Maria.

For the list poll on Samadhi see:

files/K-List%20Polls/samhadipo

ll.txt

Love, Hillary

Dear Maria,

I recommend "Awakening the Life force by Swami Rajarshi Muni" and *Talks*
with Sri Ramana Maharshi. The latter *appears* incredibly difficult at
first, but the repetition means it all sinks in quite easily. He is one of
the really Great Sages.

Here are a few quotes:

From Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi: "External samadhi is holding on to the
Reality while witnessing the world, without reacting to it from within.
There is the stillness of a waveless ocean. The internal samadhi involves
loss of body-consciousness. p. 381

*****
(1) holding on to Reality is samadhi
(2) Holding on to Reality with effort is savikalpa samadhi
(3) Merging in Reality and remaining unaware of the world is nirvikalpa
samadhi
(4) Merging in Ignorance and remaining unaware of the world is sleep (Head
bends but not in samadhi)
(5) Remaining in the primal, pure natural state without effort is sahaja
nirvikalpa samadhi

p. 357-358

**********
A practiser gains peace of mind and is happy. That peace is the result of
his efforts. But the real state must be effortless. The effortless samadhi
is the true one and the perfect state. It is permanent. The efforts are
spasmodic and so also their results.

When the real, effortless, permanent, happy nature is realised it will be
found to be not inconsistent with the ordinary activities of life. The
samadhi reached after efforts looks like abstraction from the external
activities. A person might be so abstrated or live freely among people
without detriment to his Peace and Happiness because that is his true nature
or the Self.

p. 553

**********

From Awakening the Life Force:

...At this juncture it should be pointed out that the real mastery over the
body is achieved not by the willful practice of the techniques mentioned
above, but by the spontaneous manifestations of those activities in a
seeker's body. One does not need to make an effort of will; it happens
automatically as the consciousness of the seeker shifts spontaneously from
the level of the gross body (Annamaya Kosha) to the next immediate sheath,
the subtle energy body (Pranamaya Kosha).

No sooner does such a shift of consciousness take place than Prana takes over
control of the body from the mental will, giving rise to the spontaneous
manifestations of various postures, breathing patterns (Pranayamas), and
different processes aimed at purifying the body. This is a gradual process,
but a sure one for finally breaking the connection between consciousness and
the gross body...

p. 165

Love, Hillary






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