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Recieved: 2001/04/09 10:52
Subject: Re: [K-list] snakes and other beasties POLL
From: Druout


On 2001/04/09 10:52, Druout posted thus to the K-list:

Dear List,

Only four people have so far responded to the snakes and beasties poll.

The poll is not as trivial as one would think, so I hope more people do
reply. See short excerpts below from Jung's discussion of animals and the
chakras.

People's comments so far:

"That was one the confirming things about K. When I read a book about K, and
they told of people having dreams about these snakes, well... I guess I had
to believe and since I wasn't the only one.."

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 When I was quite young
(not sure - maybe 5 or 6?) I used to have nightmares about walking down
a narrow corridor between two solid walls entirely made of snakes. I
didn't like the dreams one bit....

I believe I have been bitten on the arm by a snake in a dream, but I'm
not remembering it well.

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A snake face kept popping up since last monday, that I came to feel
like drawing it. You may find a drawing of it at

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/onsriyantra/message/25

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My dreams of beasties do seem to correspond to changes in energy or other
mystical phenoms. Snakes were "on my mind" a few weeks ago. Since then,
panther, rhino (and a bit of giraffe), and black jaguar. Interesting you
say beasty, because some of the characters I have been dreaming about are
conflations of one or more animals. The human-chimp infant, the
dog-frog-human.

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Hillary again. I have not had any snake dreams that I recall. Occasionally I
will dream of Cougars and Tigers. Just last week I dreamt there was a tiger
in my house--he seemed to be sort of a pet--quite docile. But I suddenly
realized it was rather a dangerous pet to have in the house, so I lured him
outside with a piece of meat, but he was snarling and obviously did *not*
want to go! LOL

I will sometimes dream of horses, or Tibetan ponies. Once I dreamt of a
bear and another time a crow.

10/31 4:40 Dream I was eating peanuts by the road with Gil.
Across the Street was Rinpoche [my sister's teacher] with a horse. The horse
wanted
some peanuts so I offered him some. He loved them. Wanted more.
Horse: freedom, power, sexual energy.

8/22 3:40 I awoke from dream of green rolling fields of white
sheep with black faces. It was a charming, pretty scene. 5:51 I
again awoke from dream (or was it a dream?) of creatures called
"mentals." I don't have the vaguest idea of what "mentals" are
except I seem to "remember" small creatures, but more verbally
than visually.

7/27 Dreamt again of water. We seemed to be in Africa. Our
convoy of cars was crossing a flooded road that had become a
river. A young hippo-rhino came up to me. I was slightly
afraid but entranced also. Shortly afterwards I saw large
mother, and so I avoided baby so as not to antagonize mama hippo-Rhino. The
scenery was beautiful.

I think it's fascinating that one of the four people who responded also had a
Rhinoceros dream.

In a way, K energy seems to connect a part of our consciousness to a more
"natural" or primordial state, perhaps to a time when we came into daily
contact with snakes and big cats and Rhinos, as well as Gazelles. Just a
guess.

Many thanks to all who responded so far! :))

Love, Hillary

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Jung, in his *Commentary on Kundalini Yoga* says, "Now in talking about these
centres, we must never omit the actual symbols; they teach us a great deal.
I want to call your attention to the animal symbolism.

"The series of animals begins in muladhara with the elephant that supports
the earth...To the Hindu the elephant functions as symbol of the domesticated
libido, as the image of the horse functions with us. It means the force of
consciousness, the power of will, the ability to do what one wants to do.

"In the next center is the makara, the leviathan...the biggest and most
terrible animal down in the waters,...

"in the manipura the ram is the symbolic animal, and the ram is the sacred
animal of Agni, the God of fire...

"The next animal is the gazelle...The gazelle or the antelope is not unlike
the ram, the difference being that it is not a domesticated animal like the
ram, nor is it a sacrificial animal...

".Now the elephant appears in visuddha again. So here we encounter the full
power, the insurmountable sacred strength of the animal, as it was in
muladhara; that is, we meet there all that power which led us into life, into
this conscious reality. But in visuddha, it is not supporting muladhara,
this earth. It is supporting those things which we assume to be the most
airy, the most unreal, and the most volatile, namely, human thoughts. It is
as if the elephant were now making realities out of concepts....Now according
to the symbolism of the chakras, something similar happens in visuddha. The
power of the elephant is lent to psychic realities, which our reason would
like to consider as mere abstractions....

"The ajna center...looks like a winged seed, and it contains no animal. That
means that there is nothing, no psychical factor, against us whose power we
might feel...

"To speak about the lotus of the thousand petals, the sahasrara centre is
quite superfluous because that is merely a philosophical concept with no
substance whatever for us; it is beyond any possible experience...There is no
experience because it is one, it is without a second. It is dormant, it is
not, and therefore it is nirvana "

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Poll question:

> lately i have been having the most incredible dreams of cobras and other
serpent beings, and have had this overwhelming impulse to visit our local
vivarium and take a snake home with me."

>

Dear List,

Which brings a poll question to mind. :))

Have you ever had extraordinary dreams of Snakes, or Tigers, or other beasts?
 

Did they correspond to increases in energy or to other mystical phenomena?

Love, Hillary



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