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Recieved: 2000/12/13 10:58
Subject: Re: [K-list] One day with/as the Eternal, then ...
From: jb
On 2000/12/13 10:58, jb posted thus to the K-list:
On 12/13/00 at 4:48 PM J B wrote:
°Hi,
[..]
°The body, was like a fish in this Ocean of multi-directional
°energy,..
°Indestructible, Immense Space,
°It contained every thing/sound/being; Self-sustained, dependant on
°nothing;
°'my' Identity was That and therefore no fear;
°I was not being 'high', but was as supreme Sobriety.
°It was _not_ an 'experience'..
°(that day, was the only time I saw, what J. Krishnamurti meant with
°the mind-boggling statement (I paraphrase).
°'you cannot _experience_ Truth'.)
°
°It was not a momentary flash of 'insight' or psychedelic/etherial
°lights
°or a psycho-somatic/energetic-merely-personal intensity;
°it was there the whole day.
That sounds familiar Joseph - no doubt, that experience is (was) shared by many, from all cultures
throughout the centuries but few put it into writing.
°'I' felt like a baby, learning to crawl/walk.
°My 'identity' could move from being responsible as a body/'person',
°soberly relating to another..
°(much more sober/sane/factual than in the 'normal' state)..
°to being that endless Expanse of Living Space.
°
°For a moment a fearful thought arose : 'Jeez..what if It will
°disappear..?!'.
°The answer was instantaneous..: it was Obvious,
°that It has always been here and It will always be here .. and
°everywhere,
°regardless of whether the perception of it closed its doors, or not.
°
°Following day: 'gone';
°since it was obvious that It was Not the Result/Creation of an
°ambitious techniques-meditating ego
°with its effort, and seen that It had absolutely nothing to do
°with 'me'..
°there was no regret/despair upon Its 'ending'.
°The 'me', naturally confessed to its 'impotence' in the face of this
°Immensity,
°and 'prostrated' (non-emotionally, but as a matter of Fact) before
°It.
Not gone or ended - as it is "normal" it can't be recognized a second time.
What people are interpreting as "loss" or "ending" is the fact that their mind is resuming
"business as usual": the experience was possible, for the very reason that the mind stopped functioning "as usual".
°
°Yes, It was a rare jewel, the only Eternal jewel, unending Life
°itself..
°perhaps it was a gift, ..
°...and yet, at times I wonder :
°-what- was the point/significance of a 1 day in/as Eternity and then
°its 'disappearance' ?!..
°Perhaps a wrong question.
°Anything of lasting value in this event ?
°Perhaps, perhaps none.
[...]
For some, such or a similar experience marks the onset of a K. awakening - it did so in my case.
Which also provides the answer to your question: unless "something" happens to the functioning
of the mind, whether through meditation or K. awakening, nothing will happen.
A K. awakening precisely does that: confrontation with the contents
of the mind and "burning its content, the tendencies" (karma).
Love,
Jan
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