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Recieved: 2000/10/26 08:02
Subject: [K-list] Sleep, alone vs. not
From: J B


On 2000/10/26 08:02, J B posted thus to the K-list:

(- Since the first try has not been posted, I try now again.)

Hi
I cannot label my 'thing' as kundalini.. there is no spine as an
exclusive highway for energy trafic. However there is sensitivity to
the bubbling in the lowest "chakra", lifting itself to top of head,
or sometimes just the top& above head 'buzzes'.
I have been sitting for many years.
My female partner (we do not live together) is interested in the last
couple of years, but is most centered in the
emotions/romance/physical contact need; While my attention is more
drawn to the upper areas,.. heart, top of head..
When once in a while we sleep together (I do it out of love for her,
to please her), I find it rather uncomfartable.. (the one-to-one
model is the one she loves, while I Do need the Space around me or
rather being the Space and (while awake) meeting her in that
Space,).. and a living being next to one make a bit too much 'noise'
unfortunatelly (and I do not mean just the snoring.. ,I do not quite
know why she thinks that's terribly nice & romantic.. to me when you
sleep, you sleep).
She accepts most of the time not sleeping in same bed,.. but she's
not so happy about it,.. I guess one cannot expect her to understand
if she does not experience it herself.
I just put a picture before you.. and any comments/pointers are
appreciated.
jb.
   

--- In Kundalini-GatewayATnospamegroups.com, terryfATnospama... wrote:
> Hi, Folks!
>
> Thanks for this forum! I just found my way here and am grateful for
> the wealth of experience and caring attitude here.
>
> I was looking back at some of the prior postings to get a feel of
> what goes on and discovered a note from Bob Vincent
about "Kundalini
> Couples" which hit home for me.
>
> Bob, my background is similar to yours in that I also began TM
early
> in my life (age 17) and have never looked back as far as the
> awakening process is concerned. (Not that I'm particularly awake,
> mind
> you...) My first K experience happened sometime in 1969, I think
> (though as Robin Williams said, If you can remember the 60's, you
> weren't really there...). I was chanting OM to the Moody Blues song
> and gazing at the Shri Yantra on their album cover when I suddenly
> felt a WHOOSH and my whole awareness rose to the crown of my head.
I
> thought, Great, I'm going to leave my body, and then fell back to
my
> ordinary state!
>
> About a year later I was initiated into TM, but my overall
experience
> of it at that time was more one of expansion, rather than energy.
> Later experiences have led me to believe that there are different
> types of Shakti at work, Kundalini Shakti being only one of them.
>
> Your comment: "Also, to the K couple who is having trouble
sleeping,
> you might try separate bedrooms, except when you are ready for
> something other than rest. Not a popular view, I'm sure, but that
is
> how it is for K couples. That's how it is here in our house. In
the
> end, K is not a team sport. It is just you and your divine process
> unfolding inside.It is hard to live it in close proximity with
> another K person, particularly while resting. Of course, we'd all
> like
> to have our cake and eat it too, so give it your best shot. The
more
> K you have the more obvious it will become what needs to be done."
>
> For the last five years, my wife and I have had to sleep
separately,
> though her experience is different from mine. I find that there's
> just too much energy to be able to sleep. Also, it tends to build
up
> in the bed, similar to the experience of building meditation energy
> in
> one space. I've had to flip the mattress and eventually change
> beds...and, as a rule, I don't meditate in bed for that reason.
> Stress
> definitely plays a part in the equation, and there's an interesting
> fine line where too much Shakti will cause one's karma
to "fructify"
> too quickly, causing upheavals in life in many ways, financial and
> otherwise, which can add to the stress.
>
> In general, I've found some great resources in Pranic Healing and
> Arhatic Yoga, taught by Master Choa Kok Sui (see their website
> www.pranichealing.org I think...)and Siddha Yoga (a very powerful
> Kundalini path which emphasises Shaktipat initiation and a living
> Siddha (fully realized) Guru. The Pranic and Arhatic teachings are
a
> Godsend, in my opinion for anyone on an accelerated path, given the
> amount of stuff that comes up in all areas of life. There is a
> clear understanding of Kundalini Syndrome and prescriptions for the
> various problems that can arise.
>
> The Siddha Yoga regular satsangs and ashrams are great. Their
monthly
> correspondence course is fantastic(www.syda.org). Unlike my
> experience of 20 years of TM, as a teacher for most of that time,
> these other groups are inclusive of anyone and have a tolerant
> attitude for people trying to find and use whatever resources that
> will help. Perhaps things are changing there by now.
>
> Anyway, I look forward to hanging out here on occasion, and wish
you
> all the best on your journey!
>
> Terry Ferguson
>
> PS- I'll check those URL's and post any changes separately. I'm
afraid
> I might lose this message again if I click "Back" on my
browser...Did
> I do something wrong there? I don't see a place to save drafts
here...

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