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Recieved: 2000/10/10 03:38
Subject: Re: [K-list] The Role of Consciousness
From: Wim Borsboom


On 2000/10/10 03:38, Wim Borsboom posted thus to the K-list:

Dear Angelique,

You wrote:
> I think yer cute! Very dignified looking with white wild scientist
> hair. Darlin!

Also:
> Being in this state of detachment is referred to as "the witness state".
> So now I'm gonna teach you how to get into the witness state.

I fully agree with your assessment of the witness state, your exercise is
wonderful in helping a person to understand the dynamics of it and to help a
person place him or herself into that state.
However, as I wrote a few postings ago, we have to become 'direct' again,
reclaim our immediacy. The dichotomy between the object/subject aspects of
oneself has to disappear. The witness state is an intermediary stage only.
No criticism though about what you write. This here is just meant to help
ppl. getting a preview or a sense of some future stirrings of their
consciousness, so that they may know that after the witness state a
beingness emerges that is comparable to, but greater than the child-at-play
state, directer still than the child-at-play immersed in its doing and
being. After the witness state we are awaiting a state of intense
immediacy, a more total acute being, within and without, integrated within
oneself and the world about without the dubious reflections of spatial
extensions and the tired constraints of time dilation. A non questioning
play with the clear light of spiritual awareness and human/divine 'lila'
will be our reality. ('Lila' is creative play in Sanskrit.)
This sounds like Krishna but on a serious day.

(Jeez, I did not know that I was going to write something that Aurobindo
Ghose, the Indian sage would've, could've or had indeed thought up... That
man was amazing in his description of the integrated fully conscious being.
Anyway, I will attempt not to use his words and thought patterns. Aurobindo
was a great lyricist as well, a poet of the highest stature, although
somewhat dated, which he cannot help that of course, when we read him now.
Any one sentence from his epic 'Savitri' invites you into a panorama
comprising the whole of divine and human reality.)

So after the witness state - (More than a unharmed non-violated child in its
state of immediate being at say the age of 4, a child still being able to
live within-and-without so to speak, still playfully integrated within
itself and its world about.) - after the witness state we can now evolve
into a being aware of extra spatial and temporal dimensionalities unfolding.
Of course there must be something additional, more complex but still somehow
with a comparable sameness. Compare this to the dynamic moving of our focus
in and out, up and down as well as sideways through Mandelbrot Set pictures.
We will gain deeper as well as wider insights into transitions of reality's
inner and outer facets. We will be more actively and directly involved in
the creative and manifesting evolution of the reality of life, a more
participatory and creative functionality than during a child's play, a more
co-creative involvement in the divine aspect of the human divine being. This
is something that ordinarily could happen to any child between 4 and 8 years
of age, when violations have not taken place (it happens). In such a child
an additional intensity of awareness of and participation in reality arises,
a wider spiralling of the in- and de-volutions of awareness, a multifaceted
sharpness and keenness, a more energetic consciousness with a higher
frequency and intenser involvement. Not qualitatively better, but
quantitatively more intricately compact and detailed in its finesse and
grandeur. (This is not a matter of good or bad or better in a moral sense.
We should find more appropriate, less judgemental ways of expressing this
emancipation.) Anyway, the child would normally develop... (I have in fact
observed this during my time as a Montessori worker)... in combination with
its personal terrestrial contemporary memory also a universal and cosmic
knowledge, participating as it can in what we can term 'akashic realms'. It
is a state though where memory, sense-of-future as well as the beginnings of
the realization of omnipresence, does not knock a person off balance, out of
the current presence. A kind of para-dual or parallel beingness develops,
multiple aspects of the self active at the same moment, like the multiple
aspects of a torus, the sides, surface, inner and outer perimeters of a
donut and its hole, a being of conscience from the inside looking out in all
directions, and from the outside looking in, simultaneously being the torus
and being (in :-) the hole.
This is of course all a manner of speaking. I remember when I first became
conscious in that state... a very humorous moment of a divine child's
laughter, an actual history-less re-play of that constant moment of eternal
creation and recreation, the beginning and end of a universe as the grandest
as well as the minutest proto-particle convoluting into and out of itself.

My God, what a load of BS and ludicrous verbosity the above would be if it
was not true. Bear with me, I have at times told this story simpler.

Well, Angelique you mentioned the wild scientist in me, mad would be
appropriate. Cute? All right. Scientist ? Oh well...

Sorry, will try again later.

Love,
Wim


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